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Famous Athiests' Last Words
« on: January 18, 2009, 12:58:28 PM »
Thomas Paine:
"I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. O Lord, help me! Christ, help me! . . No, don't leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of Hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one."

Sir Thomas Scott:
"Until this moment, I thought there was neither God nor hell; now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty!"

Sir Francis Newport,the head of an English infidel club:
"You need not tell me there is no God for I know there is one, and that I am in His presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell!"

The last words of the atheist Mirabeau:

"My sufferings are intolerable; I have within me a hundred years of life but not a moment's courage. Give me more laudanum that I may not think of eternity."

Caesar Borgia: --- "While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die."

Thomas Hobbs: --- "I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark."

Voltaire:
"I am abandoned by God and man; I will give you half of what I am worth if you will give me six months' life." (He said this to Dr. Fochin, who told him it could not be done.) "Then I shall die and go to hell!"

Robert Ingersoll:
"O God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul!" (Some say it was this way: "Oh God, if there be a God, save my soul if I have a soul, from hell, if there be a hell!")

Mao Zhedong (Chairman of The People's Republic of China):
"I feel ill. Call the doctor, quickly."

Diocletian, Emperor of Rome:

"I AM Rome. I AM the People. I AM the Eagle. I AM the Lord of Life. Am a Living God. Why must a God die?"

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Re: Last Words of Athiests
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 01:14:19 PM »
More,



Vespasian,  Emperor of Rome:

"Woe is me, for I think I am to become a god." (AD 79)

Robespierre, French Revolutionary Activist:

"Behold, I leap into a dark I had not guessed, and my soul fills with foreboding. Look down upon me, Lord !"


 

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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 01:45:35 PM »
I am not the center of my life but knowing the plan of GOD for me is....
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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 02:15:33 PM »
The one that surprises me was the last words by Diocletian, indeed, was one of the greater Emperors that ever sat on the Imperial Throne; not to mention whose edicts gave birth to refreshed civil prosperity within the empire.

The man fashioned himself a God within the state. Or as he would declare to the Plebians at the helm of the Capitoline, "I AM the Eagle of Rome."

And yet, a 'god' died wretched. Like any mortal man. And he called himself a god..


Diocletian, Emperor of The Roman Empire

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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 02:29:59 PM »
Something about Diocletian,

Diocletian is also known as the 'purger of Christians', as the man condemned thousands of Christians to death. There is one story regarding a man, St. Sebastian, who is regarded a martyr of Christ in the Roman Catholic Church.

Sebastian, a Christian Roman, was preaching to plebians and was brought to Diocletian. Upon hearing the charges, Sebastian was sentenced to be executed by arrows. He was tied to a tree and shot by archers, yet still survived.

He was taken to Diocletian again; and instead of begging for his life as what Diocletian wanted, Sebastian continued to preach to Diocletian himself, The Emperor of Rome.

Disgusted with the Christian's faith, the Emperor ordered him beaten to death.



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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 04:59:06 PM »
WHAT IS AN ATHEIST?
Since the question "what is an atheist?" frequently comes up, and since there seems to be some confusion, here are a few basic facts.
We sometimes make the mistake of thinking that statements such as "X is a Christian" and "Y is an Atheist" are similar statements. Yes, they are grammatically identical, but logically they are very different (aside from being theologically different).

The "a-" prefix in "atheism" and "atheist" is the negative prefix in Greek, and it means simply "non-," "not." Atheist means, then, "not a theist." And that is ALL it means. (A "theist" is one who has some belief in a deity or deities.)

Therefore, to say "So-and-so is an atheist" is not an affirmative statement, but a negative one. It is like saying "So-and-so does not own a Ford." Or "So-and-so does not eat peanut butter." Or "So-and-so is not a Hindu." From these negative statements it is not justifiable to draw any further conclusions about So-and-so; there is no affirmative information in those statements.

To put it another way, such a statement is not saying that so-and-so is a member of the atheist class, because there is no such class. At least, there is no such class about which any meaningful statement or generalization can be made. It is a class only definable in terms of the theist class, and thus it is not a meaningful class. That is, the only thing that atheists (non-theists) have in common is that one characteristic: non-membership in the theist class.

Hitler was not a Hindu. I am not a Hindu. Do you know anything more about me or about Hitler, from those statements? Do those statements imply any further characteristics he and I may have in common? No.

Even the characteristic of non-belief in God can take many forms. Some atheists affirmatively deny God: "There is no God, that's for sure." Others say: "I have no belief in God because the evidence I have seen so far does not, in my view, warrant such a belief." Still others say: "I don't believe in God, because if I did I would have to act differently." And others say: "I don't give a damn, one way or the other."

Since none of these people have a belief in God, they are not theists. Therefore, the term a-theist (non-theist) is appropriate for them, even though the term tells us nothing more about their beliefs, their morals, or their lives than that one bare, negative fact.

So, don't lump atheists together. Atheists are not a group. We have no common beliefs, no scriptures, nothing necessarily in common except the lack of that one belief.

To say that "Z is a Christian," however, provides us with a great deal of information: Z is a theist, a follower of Jesus and the teachings of the New Testament (however they may be interpreted). We can get a general idea of what Z believes by reading those scriptures on which the Christian religion is based (although our idea may be mistaken in some details). Z can theoretically be evaluated as to how "true" a Christian he is by how correctly he interprets his scriptures and by how closely he follows the precepts of his religion. For atheists, however, there is no such standard. It would be ridiculous to say that "X is not a very good atheist" or "Y is a true atheist."


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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 10:24:47 PM »
for me i dont think there's such pure atheist. it is just refusal to believe
for  an a-theist/atheist to deny God existence would be, for me, illogical
how can you deny "nothing" (God's inexistence)


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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 11:33:25 PM »
One best example of a non believer is Barbara Walters. She never believed that there is something like that existed...but that doesnt make her a speck in our country kay she is a very good citizen.

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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 11:40:31 PM »
AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN ATHEIST CAN DO

Atheist Wilson Gives $22.5 Million for Catholic Fund (Update2)

May 23 (Bloomberg) -- Philanthropist and retired hedge-fund manager Robert W. Wilson said he is giving $22.5 million to the Archdiocese of New York to fund a scholarship program for needy inner-city students attending Roman Catholic schools.

Wilson, 80, said in a phone interview today that although he is an atheist, he has no problem donating money to a fund linked to Catholic schools.

``Let's face it, without the Roman Catholic Church, there would be no Western civilization,'' Wilson said. ``Shunning religious organizations would be abhorrent. Keep in mind, I'm helping to pay tuition. The money isn't going directly to the schools.''

Wilson's donation is the largest the archdiocese has ever received. The money will be used to fund the Cardinal's Scholarship Program, which was started in 2005 to give disadvantaged students attending the archdiocese's inner-city schools partial or full tuition grants, Jacqueline LoFaro, the archdiocese's associate superintendent of schools, said in a phone interview today.

``It was a chance for a very modest amount of money to get kids out of a lousy school system and into a good school system,'' Wilson said.

An anonymous donor has given an additional $4.5 million to the archdiocese after learning that Wilson's gift would be announced today, church officials said.

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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2009, 12:24:37 AM »
AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN ATHEIST CAN DO

Atheist Wilson Gives $22.5 Million for Catholic Fund (Update2)

May 23 (Bloomberg) -- Philanthropist and retired hedge-fund manager Robert W. Wilson said he is giving $22.5 million to the Archdiocese of New York to fund a scholarship program for needy inner-city students attending Roman Catholic schools.

Wilson, 80, said in a phone interview today that although he is an atheist, he has no problem donating money to a fund linked to Catholic schools.

``Let's face it, without the Roman Catholic Church, there would be no Western civilization,'' Wilson said. ``Shunning religious organizations would be abhorrent. Keep in mind, I'm helping to pay tuition. The money isn't going directly to the schools.''

Wilson's donation is the largest the archdiocese has ever received. The money will be used to fund the Cardinal's Scholarship Program, which was started in 2005 to give disadvantaged students attending the archdiocese's inner-city schools partial or full tuition grants, Jacqueline LoFaro, the archdiocese's associate superintendent of schools, said in a phone interview today.

``It was a chance for a very modest amount of money to get kids out of a lousy school system and into a good school system,'' Wilson said.

An anonymous donor has given an additional $4.5 million to the archdiocese after learning that Wilson's gift would be announced today, church officials said.


Very interesting article Glace! thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2009, 02:59:28 AM »

Very interesting article Glace! thanks for sharing.

Mao nay giingon nga: "Dont Judge the Man Under The Mango Tree"

kay basin nalibang na or nangukoy

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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2009, 03:00:46 AM »
bwahahehehe!

dili Glace, naghuwat na sha ug wa na bay nag tan-aw kay mangawat sha ug putot isuwa sa asin! hahahahha


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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2009, 03:03:55 AM »
galaway lang ko da. lamia pud na isaw-saw sa suka ug tuyo

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Re: Famous Athiests' Last Words
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2009, 05:38:37 AM »
mao baja na nga di i-ignore ang nag pahipi2x sa kasagbutan! hahahha

naabut naman ta ani sa kalibunan oi!

Balik sa Topic kay ma putbol ta ani ron!

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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2009, 11:12:11 AM »
kini si mdb, mao jud ni tagda sa mga taga tb sa kalibunan.

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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009, 11:57:16 AM »
hahaha...maka-dani pod lagi og membro kay maayo man mo-agda og adto's kalibunan...

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