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Chinese-Philippine Relations: Discussion
« on: March 29, 2009, 11:02:15 PM »
ASIA
Slur vs Hong Kong Pinays sparks outrage
By Delon Porcalla Updated March 29, 2009 12:00 AM


A screenshot of the website of  HK Magazine that sparked outrage among
Filipinos for reportedly calling the Philippines a 'nation of servants.'
MANILA, Philippines - A congresswoman yesterday called on a Hong Kong
magazine to apologize to the Philippine government for offensive and
defamatory comments on Filipinos in an article on the country’s claim
over the Spratly islands which China also claims.

Akbayan Rep. Risa Hontiveros voiced strong protest over the article of
Chinese writer Chip Tsao published in the HK Magazine of the Asia City
Publishing Group, where he called the Philippines a “nation of
servants.”

In his article, Tsao protested the Philippine claim over the Spratlys,
urging his compatriots not to bow to the Philippines because there are
“more than 130,000 Filipina maids working as $3,580-a-month cheap labor
in Hong Kong.”

“As a nation of servants, you don’t flex your muscles at your master,
from whom you earn most of your bread and butter,” Tsao said in his
article.

He also mentioned that he employs a Filipina domestic helper named
Louisa and warned her that should a war erupt, “I would have to end her
employment and send her straight home, because I would not risk the
crime of treason for sponsoring an enemy of the state by paying her to
wash my toilet and clean my windows 16 hours a day.”

“With that money, she would pay taxes to her government, and they would
fund a navy to invade our motherland and deeply hurt my feelings,” Tsao
added.

“I sternly warned her that if she wants her wages increased next year,
she had better tell every one of her compatriots in Statue Square on
Sunday that the entirety of the Spratly Islands belongs to China,” Tsao
wrote.

The Chinese writer likewise said the Philippines should stop threatening
China.

“The Philippines may have a Barack Obama and the hawkish American
military behind them, but we have a hostage in each of our homes in the
Mid-Levels or higher. Some of my friends told me they have already
declared a state of emergency at home. Their maids have been made to
shout ‘China, Madam/Sir’ loudly whenever they hear the word ‘Spratly.’
They say the indoctrination is working as wonderfully as when we used to
shout ‘Long Live Chairman Mao,’ at the sight of portrait (sic) of our
Great leader during the Cultural Revolution,” Tsang said in his article.

Hontiveros took strong offense at this and said the magazine should
apologize immediately.

“This disgusting, derogatory, and vile remark can only come from
dim-witted and mediocre writing. The magazine should apologize
straightaway. The article reflects the kind of attitude that promotes
abuses against Filipina workers,” Hontiveros said.

She said Tsao’s story should not have been published, owing to its
defamatory nature characterized by racial discrimination against
Filipinos in general, and domestic helpers in particular.

“Chip Tsao should find another profession. He should leave the Spratlys
issue to the diplomats and writing to real writers because clearly he
has neither competence nor talent in foreign affairs and in writing,”
Hontiveros added.

“When you make fun of a particular group, you expose them to abuses.
Wittingly or unwittingly, you end up supporting acts of intolerance and
abuses,” she added.

“Filipina domestic workers should hold a one-day strike to tell the
likes of Chip Tsao who’s the real master of the HK economy. If all
Filipino workers in HK would strike, the HK economy would grind to a
halt without us having to invade the territory,” she said.

She said Filipinos are not asking for political correctness, just
professional treatment.

“Domestic work is a decent job. It’s not just done by hired Filipina
domestic workers, it has also been the function of mothers of all
nationality, in Hong Kong and China and elsewhere. It should be treated
with respect,” she said, adding that by insulting Filipina domestic
workers Tsao has also insulted his own mother.


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Re: Bohol-China Friendship
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 02:35:47 AM »
atong ipadala ang mga Abu Sayyaf sa HK....

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Re: Bohol-China Friendship
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 02:53:03 AM »
unsaon na lang ning akoang Laptop, Macks, made in china ra ba pod...hehehe.

di sa ko mosulod og Wall Mart...

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Re: Bohol-China Friendship
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 03:15:03 AM »
lol, a nation of servants?

It is the Chinese nation that is the servant to the global capitalist market. Who serves who?

Cheap chinese products that break easily.

How very uncouth for the HK magazine to utter such offenses.

The Filipino, like India, is one of the few peoples in Asia that can speak and communicate in English fluently.

Here in the United States, there are over 20,000 Filipino physicians/surgeons. And 1/10th of the American medical work force is Filipino.

The Filipino is an educated, enthusiastic, dedicated, professional.

We may not be rich as some countries, but intelligence is something that precedes the Filipino.

The First Republic of Asia. ;)

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 03:23:41 AM »
I pray for the Chinese people that think that way of Filipinos. And in the end, we Filipino Kababayans should not linger too much on the biases and prejudices. Some people may translate the hard work and sacrifices of Filipinos as being 'servant-esque', but the truth is that the hard work of Kababayans is what brings over 18 Billion US dollars to the Philippines, to sustain families, send children to school, and to maintain the economic bubble.

The beauty of the Filipino and the Philippines is the country's and the people's ability to weather many storms. We have been invaded, conquored, been at war, yet we are still here. Proud and strong.


Mabuhay ang Pilipinas at ang Pilipino!

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Re: Bohol-China Friendship
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 03:49:22 AM »
Here some good news about Pinay DH in Hongkong:

Most of these Pinay are Christian coming to chruch on regular basis bringing their alaga to the church for prayer meeting so in the process. Their young alaga will grow up as Christian.

By and by they will realized how lucky they are to have a Pinay house helper.

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Re: Bohol-China Friendship
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 06:21:41 AM »
Lorenzo,

Please split this issue to another thread. There's lots of things to discuss here. We Pinoys are humiliated.

I run a search about Chip Tsao and found that he really has a history of racism back in 2005 and I don't believe he is a sane person. He must be detained inside a mental facility.

See this link back in 2005 http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article-eastasia.asp?parentid=31608

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Re: Bohol-China Friendship
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 06:25:57 AM »
Here is another interesting blog from Congresman Biazon about this Chip Tsao:

http://ruffybiazon.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/why-mr-chip-tsao-wrote-that-article/

Once again, moderators, please split this topic to another thread from page 12 starting at Manay Hofelina's.

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Re: Chinese-Philippine Relations: Discussion
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 08:09:11 AM »
Mr. Ferniz,

lets talk about this.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 09:02:26 AM »
One thing I notice about this country that is different to many others.  The Chinese are usually, and perhaps justifiably, superior about their culture.  In many countries this translates into complete separation from local people, especially with regards to marriage.
Not so in the Phils, they are very integrated here.  At least the families who have been here for a few generations.
That fact has more weight than the scribblings of one disparaging nationalist loon.

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 09:36:58 AM »
this "kung-fu" writer just wants to make a name out of his ignorance about filipinos.

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Re: Chinese-Philippine Relations: Discussion
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 09:45:32 AM »
akoy nalouy sa mga domestic helpers.

tiaw bag pasyagiton ug "china".

sakit na sa tutunlan ng syagit-syagit oi.

ang mga chinese bitaw diri sa philippines wa man nato gitreat nga lain. sila pa man gani ang lain ug treatment nato sa atong kaugalingong yutang natawhan.

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 05:30:21 PM »
This is unfair treatment to us Filipinos. I find it very childish. The fact that no Chinese has opposed on this irresponsible act during day one only means that they are in agreement of this moronic act.

Little did Chip Tsao, the author know that we Filipinos are treating Chinese nationals fairly and with high respects? In fact we acknowledge one Chinese as Hero during the Fil-Am war. His name is General Jose Ignacio Paua, the only pure Chinese in the Philippine army.

Here’s a brief story of General Paua:
He was born on April 29, 1872 in a poor village of Lao-na in Fujian province, China. In 1890, he accompanied his uncle to seek his fortune in the Philippines. He worked as a blacksmith on Jaboneros Street, Binondo, Manila.   
 
Paua joined the Katipunan in 1896. His knowledge as blacksmith served him in good stead.  He repaired native cannons called lantakas and many other kinds of weaponry. He set up an ammunition factory in Imus, Cavite where cartridges were filled up with home-made gunpowder. [On the side, he courted Antonia Jamir, Emilio Aguinaldo's cousin].

On June 12, 1898, when Aguinaldo proclaimed Philippine independence in Kawit, Cavite, Paua cut off his queue (braid). When General Pantaleon Garcia and his other comrades teased him about it, Paua said: "Now that you are free from your foreign master, I am also freed from my queue." [The queue, for the Chinese, is a sign of humiliation and subjugation because it was imposed on them by the Manchu rulers of the Qing dynasty. The Chinese revolutionaries in China cut off their queues only in 1911 when they finally toppled the Manchu government.]
 
On Oct. 29, 1898, Paua was included in the force led by General Vito Belarmino that was sent to the Bicol region; Belarmino assumed the position of military commander of the provinces of Albay, Camarines and Sorsogon.
 
On Jan. 20, 1900, the Americans invaded the Bicol region; Brig. Gen. William A. Kobbe's expeditionary force, comprising the 43rd and 47th Infantry Regiments U.S. Volunteers, and Battery G , 3rd Artillery, took the port of Sorsogon without resistance.
 
On Jan. 23, 1900 at Legaspi, Albay, General Paua and General Belarmino put up a strong resistance against the 47th US Infantry but in the end had to retreat; 7 Americans were wounded, and 50 Filipinos killed and wounded.
 
Paua married Carolina Imperial, a native of Albay; he retired in Albay and was once elected town mayor of Manito. He told his wife and children: “I want to live long enough to see the independence of our beloved country and to behold the Filipino flag fly proudly and alone in our skies.” His dream was not realized because he died of cancer in Manila on May 24, 1926 at the age of 54.   (RIGHT, Monument to General Paua in Silang, Cavite Province).
 
The late historian, Teodoro Agoncillo, described Paua as "More Filipino than many Filipinos." 
 
His monument is found in every municipality of Albay.


What I am stressing is that Filipinos and Chinese are historical allies and allies means we are of mutual and of equal stand. There is no slave and no master.

Ignorance of this one person could ruin our good ties with China.


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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 08:15:25 PM »
mao na ni ron.  ug mga amerkano gani mag-ing-ana daghan na dajung protesta dihas u.s. embasy.  ngano kaha nga ug mga kano magbuhat ug matod pas tagawog "hindi kanais-nais tua na dajun ng mga anti-american nagsige nag syagit sa us embasy.  pero ug instsik gani magbuhat ug hindi kanais nais wala tawn palag ang nga rallyesta.   ngano man???

puro ra diay ni sila anti-american.

wala ba dihay anti chinese... hehehe

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 08:35:48 PM »
mao na ni ron.  ug mga amerkano gani mag-ing-ana daghan na dajung protesta dihas u.s. embasy.  ngano kaha nga ug mga kano magbuhat ug matod pas tagawog "hindi kanais-nais tua na dajun ng mga anti-american nagsige nag syagit sa us embasy.  pero ug instsik gani magbuhat ug hindi kanais nais wala tawn palag ang nga rallyesta.   ngano man???

puro ra diay ni sila anti-american.

wala ba dihay anti chinese... hehehe

tinood nga way nag-rally diha bahin aning isyuha? akong duda, gamay ra tingali kaayo ni nga isyu para sa mga igsoon natong aktibista. para nila, di pod tingali kaayo inpluwensyado ang mga gipanulti ning journalistaha. mao nga pwede ra kini isalikway. ako ra pod ning hunahuna.

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2009, 08:53:26 PM »
tinood nga way nag-rally diha bahin aning isyuha? akong duda, gamay ra tingali kaayo ni nga isyu para sa mga igsoon natong aktibista. para nila, di pod tingali kaayo inpluwensyado ang mga gipanulti ning journalistaha. mao nga pwede ra kini isalikway. ako ra pod ning hunahuna.

pero kadto laging bapor de guera sa mga intsik  didtos spratly,ice, wala man guihapon nagrally sa chinese embassy.  pabor pabar cguro ning mga rallyesta.  duda man sad ta basin hakot system na ilang pag rally rally...

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2009, 08:54:30 PM »
Latest development:

An action has been taken officially by the Malacañang to condemn Chip Tsao's statement, spearheaded by senators and congressmen. Malacañang has ordered the Philippine consulate in Hongkong and Beijing to raise this issue to a deplomatic level and that the author be demanded of apology or sanctions will be imposed.

Also, the whereabouts of Chip's filipina maid had been traced and a team from the Philippine consulate were sent to pull-out the maid's employement with Chip and transfer her to a new employer.

Many Philippine groups rallied in the streets of Hong kong demanding and apology from the author.

Some of the senators who were outraged expressed condemnation and planed to file an international court case against the author Chip Tsao &  the publishing company.

Roilo Golez campaigned for a boycott to all flights and services to Hong Kong for a period of 6 months.

The publishing company already withdrawn/removed the published article from their website, but Malacañang said it is not enough.

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 08:59:08 PM »
Wa ba tawon mo makamatikod nga pulos instik na ang mga nagdumala sa Pilipinas, Guikan sa kayutaan, negosyo, governo, industriya, banko, newspaper, bugas ug unsa pa diha.

Way supak kay patay mo diha sa mga NPA. Instik man guihaponm sa si Jomar Sison.

Hilum na ta unyag pamatjon unja ta wa na tay ugma.

 

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 09:00:37 PM »
pero kadto laging bapor de guera sa mga intsik  didtos spratly,ice, wala man guihapon nagrally sa chinese embassy.  pabor pabar cguro ning mga rallyesta.  duda man sad ta basin hakot system na ilang pag rally rally...

makapaduda jud bitaw. tinood, kining ubang rallyista, binayran na! daghan pong "clone" nga mga aktibista, wind..."made in china" pod tingali nang uban hahahaha. natingala ko aning imong balita. naay koy kontak sa "pikas", ako tong pangutan-on og nganong wa silay timik aning isyuha.

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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2009, 10:28:57 PM »
I have no issues regarding the Chinese-Filipino Community or Chinoys.

As I said in other threads, I have high respects to them and they are more than heroes to me. They have no allegiance to the Chinese flag nor have any connection to the Red Government. They are simply Filipinos whos ancestors are freedom loving Chinese who fled from the chains of communism. The survivor factor & the hard-working legacy of thier parents are contributors of thier present success. They are the main players to our present economy.

Hence, lets focus our discussion to Chip Tsao and the Chinese government who wants to own the whole of Spratlys islands.

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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2009, 10:36:32 PM »
"The publisher and editors of HK Magazine wish to apologize unreservedly for any offense that may have been caused by Chip Tsao's column date March 27. HK Magazine has long championed the rights of Filipinos working in Hong Kong. We note that Filipinos have often been unfairly treated in Hong Kong, and that they make an important contribution to this community," ACPG said.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090330-197052/HK-magazine-regrets-columnists-racial-slur

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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2009, 11:02:47 PM »
HK Magazine is not the issue here but the columnist Chip Tsao.

Of course HK Magazine would apologize in fear of loosing business.

This is not the first time that Tsao is involved in huge controversy.

In 2005, Tsao generated outrage from Western expatriates in Hong Kong as a result of his column. Quote: "Have Hong Kong girls stopped looking for "Mr White" (that described western men) who stayed in Hong Kong after the 1997 handover from the United Kingdom to China lived in dorms on Lamma Island or stone houses in Sai Kung that people used to "keep pigs in".

Being racist is already in his blood. He is a hard core.

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2009, 12:26:12 AM »
Wa ba tawon mo makamatikod nga pulos instik na ang mga nagdumala sa Pilipinas, Guikan sa kayutaan, negosyo, governo, industriya, banko, newspaper, bugas ug unsa pa diha.

Way supak kay patay mo diha sa mga NPA. Instik man guihaponm sa si Jomar Sison.

Hilum na ta unyag pamatjon unja ta wa na tay ugma.

 
Kinasaktuhan ka Rald nga ang instik ang naghawak sa Pilipinas.Suway ug rally di ba yab an ug kaldero ang mga pilipino.Way komo ang magpaubos.

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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2009, 03:55:55 AM »
HK Magazine is not the issue here but the columnist Chip Tsao.

Of course HK Magazine would apologize in fear of loosing business.

This is not the first time that Tsao is involved in huge controversy.

In 2005, Tsao generated outrage from Western expatriates in Hong Kong as a result of his column. Quote: "Have Hong Kong girls stopped looking for "Mr White" (that described western men) who stayed in Hong Kong after the 1997 handover from the United Kingdom to China lived in dorms on Lamma Island or stone houses in Sai Kung that people used to "keep pigs in".

Being racist is already in his blood. He is a hard core.

he must be the Limbaugh in the US Macky!!!

a DOPED!!!

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2009, 04:00:42 AM »
Raq, the real issue here is not the Phil-Chinese or Chinoys.

Chinese blood is just a component of the whole Filipino race. Each one of us has certain percentage of Chinese blood and I have high percentage of it being my great grandfather was a merchant from Macau.

We have no issues regarding the Chinese-Filipino Community or Chinoys.

Hence, let us focus our discussion to Chip Tsao and the Chinese red government who wants to own the whole of Spratlys islands.

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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2009, 04:06:08 AM »
he must be the Limbaugh in the US Macky!!!

a DOPED!!!

You mean Rush Limbaugh? Argh, really I can not say anything. This guy is against anything good to the humanity. He is against environment, he twists anything that is proven to science.

But since I knew that he says what he is paid for, I kind of enjoy his show, not seriously but as comedy. I laugh at his lines.

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2009, 04:57:58 AM »
Mga way batasan sila, kon wala pa ang mga Pinay domestic helpers , kinsa man ang manghinlo, atiman sa bata ug pagloto? Nagpakadato gud sila. Where is social conscience here?

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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2009, 05:14:57 AM »
Mao ni ang development nga akong nakita sa TV Manay:

An action has been taken officially by the Malacañang to condemn Chip Tsao's statement, spearheaded by senators and congressmen. Malacañang has ordered the Philippine consulate in Hongkong and Beijing to raise this issue to a deplomatic level and that the author be demanded to issue a public apology or sanctions will be imposed.

Also, the whereabouts of Chip's filipina maid had been traced and a team from the Philippine consulate will pull-out the maid's employement with Chip and transfer her to a decent employer.

Many Philippine groups rallied in the streets of Hong kong demanding apology from the author.

Some of the senators who were outraged expressed condemnation and planed to file an international court case against the author Chip Tsao &  the publishing company.

Roilo Golez campaigned for a boycott to all flights and services to Hong Kong for a period of 6 months to a year.

The publishing company already has withdrawn/removed the published article from their website, but Malacañang said it is not enough.

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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2009, 05:42:08 AM »
These miseries are all the result of our leader´s questionable integrity. It has made us a nation of servants.

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2009, 08:59:38 AM »
I have no issues regarding the Chinese-Filipino Community or Chinoys.

As I said in other threads, I have high respects to them and they are more than heroes to me. They have no allegiance to the Chinese flag nor have any connection to the Red Government. They are simply Filipinos whos ancestors are freedom loving Chinese who fled from the chains of communism. The survivor factor & the hard-working legacy of thier parents are contributors of thier present success. They are the main players to our present economy.

Hence, lets focus our discussion to Chip Tsao and the Chinese government who wants to own the whole of Spratlys islands.

It is very obvious, Mr. Ferniz, that the enlightenment the Chinese Community have here in the Philippines is far more conducive and open minded as compared to other nations per se in Indonesia, where in 1998, there were mass anti-chinese riots that led to the deaths of many Chinese.

The level of connectivity the Chinese-Filipino community has with the general Filipino community is fairly harmonious.

The words of Mr. Chip Tsao does not represent all of China or the Chinese community. Though he should take responsibility for his uncouth words.

Cheers to our Country and Our People!

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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2009, 09:02:27 AM »
Raq, the real issue here is not the Phil-Chinese or Chinoys.

Chinese blood is just a component of the whole Filipino race. Each one of us has certain percentage of Chinese blood and I have high percentage of it being my great grandfather was a merchant from Macau.

We have no issues regarding the Chinese-Filipino Community or Chinoys.

Hence, let us focus our discussion to Chip Tsao and the Chinese red government who wants to own the whole of Spratlys islands.

Excellent address, Mr. Ferniz. Yes, Mr. Ferniz is right. The issue is not the Chinese-Filipino community, as every single one of us has some kind of Chinese blood in our veins.

But the issue at hand is directed towards the words of Mr. Tsao and his supporters in China.

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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2009, 10:10:35 AM »
ngano gong iapil man nato ning mga intsik diri, kung naa tay problema aning Tsao. halos ang mga intsik sa pinas, pinoy na kaayo ilang kasingkasing. basin pa gani og moapil sila kung mag-rally tas china embassy batok aning gipangyawyaw ni tsao..

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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2009, 11:05:14 AM »
Since the issue here is Chinese who is anti Filipino. We have a lot of Chip Tsao also in the Philippines.

Most of the are them even worst than Chip Tsao, most of them are horder and monopolizing  our basic commodities.

There are a lot of good Tsinoys, but hell to those anti Philippines progress.

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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2009, 11:11:07 AM »
Since the issue here is Chinese who is anti Filipino. We have a lot of Chip Tsao also in the Philippines.

Most of the are them even worst than Chip Tsao, most of them are horder and monopolizing  our basic commodities.

There are a lot of good Tsinoys, but hell to those anti Philippines progress.

di jud na mawa, sir rald. kung naay malditong pinoy, naa poy maramang intsik.

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2009, 11:25:26 AM »
sige, humanon na ni nako nga thread kay nag-sorry na si Tsao Chip.


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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2009, 11:29:32 AM »
In a historical perspective,

During the Spanish Colonial Epoch, the Spaniards greatly dismissed the Chinese community in present day Manila and distrusted the Chinese merchants as overbearing their Sinnic culture in Spanish Philippines.

Spain implemented a system of assimilation that was better known in the Archipelago as Pax Hispanica. All native Filipino Indios were to take up Hispanic names and baptized into the Church; as means of governance.

As for the Chinese population, Spanish edicts demanded that in order for the Chinese to stay in the Philippines and to continue their business ventures had to acquiesce to Spanish demands:

1) Take up Hispanic names
2) Abandon Confucianism/Buddhism for Christianity

To strategize their situations, many Chinese immigrants married into the local environment. Chinese merchants taking Filipino wives to embed their business. This was a tactical imperative; especially during the Spanish Colonial Epoch.

Case in point: the father of Dr. Jose P. Rizal was a chinese merchant; who married a Spanish Mestiza.

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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2009, 11:34:35 AM »
I've attended discusisons in inter-collegiate debates and discussion on the different cultures of Asia. In college I was part of the Association for Asian and Asian American Awareness of Allegheny College.

We had dialogues in the different cultures of Asian countries. It was interesting ot hear the different perspectives of other Asian-Americans on their view of the Philippines, The Filipino and the Filipino culture.

Many opined that Filipino culture and the Philippines being 'Foreign'. More Western than it is Confucian or Hindu.

Of course it will be different. Half a Millenia of Hispanization and Western Cultural Infusion will have an effect.



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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2009, 11:36:15 AM »
they were also levied a special tax "for breathing the air of the Philippines" by the Spaniards, dong.

additional case in point: my chinese great grandfather, the late CO JUAN KHO married a spanish peninsulares from basque, the late Maria Isabelle Ayala. (hahaha)

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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2009, 11:43:21 AM »
they were also levied a special tax "for breathing the air of the Philippines" by the Spaniards, dong.

additional case in point: my chinese great grandfather, the late CO JUAN KHO married a spanish peninsulares from basque, the late Maria Isabelle Ayala. (hahaha)

It was a tactical imperative by the Imperial Audencia. The Spanish Gobernadorcillos had dialogue with Portugal, which then controlled The Malaccas prior to loosing it Holland, and even then, there was already significant Chinese presence in said regions.

Spain's intent in the Philippines was an eternal goal. Philippine soil was Spanish soil, and due to the shear vicinity of the Chinese to Madrid's Oriental Bastion, there needed to be laws to minimize Chinese growth and threaten Spain's economic hold.

We have to remember that Manila and the Philippines was the ground and launching pad for which Spain could conduct business ventures in the port states of Guangzhou as well as for the Catholic Operations to spread the faith.

Minimizing Chinese presence in the Philippines was imperative; had their immigration to the Colony been free from checks; the archipelago would have been sinified. To the detriment of Madrid's interests.

There was a substantial amount of Chinese intermarrying into the local culture. Strategic, if you ask me. :)

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