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Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« on: August 28, 2010, 12:46:17 AM »
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 - Gikasagmuyo ni Provincial Board member Agnes Magpale ang pamahayag sa kanhi Ms. Universe nga si Gloria Diaz bahin sa mga
 Cebuana nga dili makamaong mo-Englis ug buot niya kining papangayuon og public apology.

Sumala pa sa resolusyong buot ipadayag ni Magpale sa sunod nga sesyon kini mipadayag nga usa ka dakong insulto sa usa ka Sugbuanon ang pamahayag ni Diaz.

“Expressing our strongest and highest disgust over the insulting anti-Cebuano remark of the former Ms. Universe, Gloria Diaz, which she made during a recent TV interview, and demanding from her a public apology for such remark” matud pa sa resolusyon. Kahinumduman sa interbyu sa ABS-CBN kang Diaz kini namulong og: “Kasi when you think about a Cebuana can hardly speak English and of course Tagalog. Maybe she should answer in Bisaya,” nga giisip nga usa ka matang sa insulto sa mga Sugbuanon.

Sumala pang Magpale, basin wala masayod si Magpale nga ang Cebu maoy adunay labing daghan og mga call center companies dinhi ug ang Cebuano-English maoy daling masabtan sa mga langyaw.

“Maybe wa siya kahibaw that we have the most number of call centers and the English we have is more understandable than a native foreign language. Even Koreans learn English here in Cebu,” matud pa niini.

 â€œFor a former Philippine Ambassadress of Goodwill and supposed exceptional woman of beauty, Ms. Gloria Diaz should have been more circumspect in waggling her tongue in public, uphold the highest norms of propriety and decorum, and maintain the dignity and finesse befitting of an international beauty titlist,” dugang pa niini.

Si Diaz sa pamahayag niini sa The Freeman mihimakak nga iyang gipuntirya ang mga Cebuano ug mipasabot nga buot lang niya nga mahitabo nga mas makatubag og maayo ang usa ka contestant kun ang kaugalingong lengwahe niini ang iyang gamiton.

Apan si Magpale miingon nga ang pamahayag ni Diaz daw nagpasabot nga ubos nga kaliwat ang mga Sugbuanon.

 â€œSuch arrogant remark makes Cebuanos as inferior breed of Filipinos. Ilang tan-aw nato murag maids and it is very unfortunate,” matud niini


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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2010, 02:19:34 AM »
bitaw no, murag gi look down jud niya ang mga cebuanos nga kung buot hunahunaon daghan sad baya fluent sa english. mas fluent pa sa mga tagalog. kung fluency nuon sa tagalog motoo ko nga igo ang mga bisaya ana lakip ang mga cebuano.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 02:52:09 AM »
i was able to watch that interview.na lain sad btaw ko naminaw.

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 02:53:30 AM »
i was able to watch that interview.na lain sad btaw ko naminaw.
gi munisan sa atong ininglisan mine.

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2010, 04:53:20 AM »
purya baga bitaw pod nang ininglisan nato, kita ra pod ang ni bilib.

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2010, 05:37:58 AM »
Sa pagkatinuod lang, kanang mga taga-Manila are some of the worst English speakers. They pronounce uncle as "ang-kel." Ang eagle as "e-gel". And they think they sound "social" when they rape the English language. Listen Robin Padilla's tv ad, he pronounced muscle as "ma-sel." Even kanang mga hosts sa abs-cbn ug gma7 utro sab. Kulang nalang nila ang Google, they would pronounce it as "go-gel."

British, American, and Australian English speakers would surely laugh them.

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2010, 06:41:41 AM »

understandably, we cannot help but relate the standard of our english with our native accents.  it's still regionalism at work, carried over to the way we speak english as a second language.  we laugh at the way tagalogs speak it, they laugh at the way bisayas speak it (and when they say bisaya, it includes those from mindanao, strangely.  with their poor sense of geography, it seems luzonians regard most places south of manila as bisaya.)  the former miss universe, after all, isn't as urban and urbane as she packaged herself to be when she won the title ages ago.

i insist we are better speakers, generally.  with apologies, even the hardworking senator loren legarda's english isn't impressive.  there's something about her tongue that traps some words, it is as if it is suffering from partial paralysis.  and boy, for a broadcaster, she amazed years ago, long before her switch to a political career, when she repeatedly pronounced 'viscount' as vizcawnt in her program.     

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2010, 07:15:05 AM »
To Gloria Diaz:

Isn't she your kababayan? She's not from the Bisayas regions.
Janina San Miguel - Bb. Pilipinas 2008 Q&A (complete)

Dear Gloria Diaz, listen to Janina San Miguel, your fellow Tagalog speaker.

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2010, 07:18:08 AM »
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son (Jesus Christ), that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. - John 3:16-18
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2010, 01:22:49 PM »
gi munisan sa atong ininglisan mine.

mao jud,bnc.maybe some of us,ma-adapt nato ang ato cebuano accent kung mag-ininglis ta but it doesn't mean we can hardly speak english.

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2010, 01:40:44 PM »
louya, apil ang mga pulitiko sa atong locatilies wa jud tawn kasabot sa interview ni Miss Gloria Diaz.

If you only get the point di unta mo mopalag.  She only emphasized nga ang usa ka cebuana nga maglisud ug english or tagalog, dapat mangita ug interpreter when she will be in an english or tagalog conetests.  Kaso gamay ug pangutok ning uban Pinoy unya ang gikuha ra nga punto is di kamao moenglish ug motagalog ang Cebuana!!!  Is this how poor our understanding?  Or maybe people are blinded to the fact nga dili per word ang pagsabot sa mga statements.  Unless we are members of a church nga hilig mokuha ug bersikulo nga fit ra sa ilang gusto...

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 02:17:52 PM »
louya, apil ang mga pulitiko sa atong locatilies wa jud tawn kasabot sa interview ni Miss Gloria Diaz.

If you only get the point di unta mo mopalag.  She only emphasized nga ang usa ka cebuana nga maglisud ug english or tagalog, dapat mangita ug interpreter when she will be in an english or tagalog conetests.  Kaso gamay ug pangutok ning uban Pinoy unya ang gikuha ra nga punto is di kamao moenglish ug motagalog ang Cebuana!!!  Is this how poor our understanding?  Or maybe people are blinded to the fact nga dili per word ang pagsabot sa mga statements.  Unless we are members of a church nga hilig mokuha ug bersikulo nga fit ra sa ilang gusto...

taken out of context diay si gloria, jas4?  wa ko makakita sa interview mao nga gasalig lang ko aning news item from cebu.  unsa god diay.  yes, that's very possible.  tingali kitang bisaya, sa sobrang bugal-bugal ug mga tagalog, na-defensive na hinoon ta. 

sa laing bahin, unsa na lang ba gyod diay kagago ning provincial board members sa cebu nga ipaagi pa man nilag resolution ang gikinahanglan nilang apology?  tingali baya ug naa pod silay basis.  sometimes, it's not what you say, but how you say it that matters.  hakahaka ra ning ako.
     

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 02:27:10 PM »

PS, OT:  kanang church nga imong giingon, jas4 (if you're thinking what i'm thinking...), paksit kaayo ko ana nga church.  i take pride in religious tolerance, pero naa gyod diay limit ang tolerance.  di gyod diay ko ka-tolerate sa ilaha, up close and personal. 

naluryong na ko sa tinira nilag catholics.  naluryong na pod ko sa ilang pagtuo nga sila ray makapadaog ug presidente sa pilipinas.  kay ngano?  kay mosunod man kuno ang mga katoliko nila kun mahibaw-an kun kinsa ilang dapigan.  makainit ug dunggan.  mao gyod niy angay ingnon ni scarbzy ug agoizt.
   

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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2010, 07:29:58 PM »
 Hilas se-in pod na manaway si G.Diaz? Tan.awa tong kang Janina tagalog man kaha na sya, ija eninglish labaw pod nagkatu-eriz  :P
  mas worst² pa jud ky ang present tense gihimong past tense.."this was my first time" @ the moment nga naa sya intamblado ;D
   on the other way mora pod ug naa syay 2nd time? toinks.
 Si G.Diaz pod nakita kos interview, maau ka ha syag english nga ija intonation or accent ky tagalog man?

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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 08:01:57 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2010, 08:01:59 PM »
 Well aprofo interpreter..agree ko ana ky ang uban bitaw nga candidate who came from none english speaking country ky gatikod tikod man og translator personnel. Its okey kon motubag sila sa atong vernacular ky bizan ka ratol² bizag kurog na ang wa-it maka patuyang man gyod kag padayag sa imo tubag..whereas kon eninglish, e-transform pa na nimo sa likod sa imong pahak unsa na sa imo mother tongue, then mag spontan pa kag huna² ug answer, e-transform na sad na sa imong uyok in matter of second/s into english. When nervousity occurs, some of ur brain cells morag ma stock-up tali na hehehe that will result to block-out hahaha mao tawon na mag jama²
ug masapid ang dila..nyahaha..sowe morag pod kog korek nah? (my one cent bow..!)

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2010, 08:20:26 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2010, 08:27:19 PM »
ikaw na. ;D

He he, dugay ra nako nang gikumpisal diri sa TB...  8)

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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2010, 08:33:08 PM »
He he, dugay ra nako nang gikumpisal diri sa TB...  8)

ako lang gi-confirm, officially.

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2010, 08:36:11 PM »
ako lang gi-confirm, officially.

 true confizaL diay na ron? sagdi lang maupaw man japun na hikhek..! ajeje

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2010, 08:37:01 PM »
ako lang gi-confirm, officially.

Thank you for officiating.  8)

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2010, 08:38:24 PM »
taken out of context diay si gloria, jas4?  wa ko makakita sa interview mao nga gasalig lang ko aning news item from cebu.  unsa god diay.  yes, that's very possible.  tingali kitang bisaya, sa sobrang bugal-bugal ug mga tagalog, na-defensive na hinoon ta. 

sa laing bahin, unsa na lang ba gyod diay kagago ning provincial board members sa cebu nga ipaagi pa man nilag resolution ang gikinahanglan nilang apology?  tingali baya ug naa pod silay basis.  sometimes, it's not what you say, but how you say it that matters.  hakahaka ra ning ako.
     

kahibalo na baya ka aning atong mga politiko nga bisan unsang pwede sila makadive for popularity sakes and not for the poeples' sake.  Bisan pa unsa na ang issue, sad reality na sa atong nasud.  Naa pay mga Cebuano nga utro pud!

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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2010, 10:27:04 PM »

too bad politicians are here to stay.  glad i can try to be less cynical about them.  magkalawos-lawos ang tangkong, naa gihapoy gamit, sama sa paglawog sa baboy.

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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2010, 11:17:47 PM »
Thank you for officiating.  8)

from officialdom, you are most officiously welcome. ;D

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 12:02:43 AM »
Sa pagkatinuod lang, kanang mga taga-Manila are some of the worst English speakers. They pronounce uncle as "ang-kel." Ang eagle as "e-gel". And they think they sound "social" when they rape the English language. Listen Robin Padilla's tv ad, he pronounced muscle as "ma-sel." Even kanang mga hosts sa abs-cbn ug gma7 utro sab. Kulang nalang nila ang Google, they would pronounce it as "go-gel."

British, American, and Australian English speakers would surely laugh them.

Mike unsaon naman ang apple mga bisaya tawag nila apple  pag adto nato sa Manila apil na atua itawag?

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2010, 04:23:08 PM »
Sa pagkatinuod lang, kanang mga taga-Manila are some of the worst English speakers. They pronounce uncle as "ang-kel." Ang eagle as "e-gel". And they think they sound "social" when they rape the English language. Listen Robin Padilla's tv ad, he pronounced muscle as "ma-sel." Even kanang mga hosts sa abs-cbn ug gma7 utro sab. Kulang nalang nila ang Google, they would pronounce it as "go-gel."

British, American, and Australian English speakers would surely laugh them.

go-gel bitaw ilang isulti... "i-search mo nga sa go-gel"  :o pero ilang sulti sad sa akoa kay "gu-gul" man daw kung bisaya.  :P

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Re: Gloria Diaz papangayuo'g 'sorry'?
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 04:34:52 PM »
Gloria Diaz says, she won't apologize kay na misinterpret ra daw iya gisulti.

Ning laban pud niya si Sen. Serge Osmeña.

MANILA, Philippines - Sen. Sergio Osmeña III has come to the defense of 1969 Miss Universe Gloria Diaz after she allegedly made a comment that was insulting to Cebuanos.

This was after Diaz said that 2010 Ms Universe 4th Runner Up Maria Venus Raj failed to bring home the crown because English is not her first language and that she should have used an interpreter.

In a text message, Osmeña said Diaz was just misinterpreted and she never meant to insult Cebuanos. He said Diaz's long-time boyfriend hails from Cebu.

"She was misinterpreted and misunderstood. What she meant is - do not answer in English if you are not too fluent. Use the language you are most comfortable with. After all, the sponsor provides interpreters. I agree with her," the senator said.

" We Filipinos understood what Venus was saying. But we should also appreciate that Americans and other peoples use different idioms and would not understand ours. Miss Diaz did not intend to insult the Cebuano people. Her longtime boyfriend for the last 12 years is from Cebu. "

On Wednesday, Cebu congresswoman Rachel "Cutie" del Mar criticized Diaz for making insulting statements against Cebuanos.

She said Cebuanos are also tired of racial slurs, such as people making fun or belittling Cebuano maids and drivers and imitating their accent.

The Vice Mayors League of The Philippines-Cebu has also issued a resolution declaring Diaz persona non grata in the province, according to an online report.

Diaz earlier maintained that she never said Cebuanos cannot speak English. She added that her proposal should not be taken as an insult against Cebuanos.

“Let me clarify it once and for all. People should have the right to say or to answer [questions] in whatever language they want to say it in. If they're Cebuanos, they can say it in Cebuano. I did not say that they did not speak English,” Diaz fired back.

“If you're Ilocano, say it in Ilocano. But if you're Ilocano who speaks good English, say it in English. If you're Cebuano who can speak Spanish, if you're comfortable with Spanish, say it in Spanish. That's what I said and that's what I meant,” she added.

Diaz said she was shocked when she heard that some got angry over what she allegedly said.

"I was like, shocked. Everybody was so angry.. I thought they're gonna stone me to death (laughs). I want to just make people realize it is just , you know, say it with whatever you're comfortable with," she added.

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