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« Reply #120 on: January 22, 2008, 03:17:22 AM »

hahaha abtan kag buwan ana day grazie...
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« Reply #121 on: January 22, 2008, 03:27:12 AM »
hahahaha di siguro na mahitabo Manong Lin oi na ang mga Pinay makipagshare ug bana - or at least not knowingly like the muslims...
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« Reply #122 on: January 22, 2008, 03:31:10 AM »

unya unsaon naman gyud pananglitan kon moabot ang panahon kay karon panahuna outnumbered man gyud ang population sa boys kay sa girls.

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« Reply #123 on: January 22, 2008, 03:33:00 AM »
Eh di mag mangkay na lang hahahahaha

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« Reply #124 on: January 22, 2008, 03:35:36 AM »

talking of mangkay day pastilan daghana kog aunties both sides nga nagmangkay pastang luoya...

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« Reply #125 on: January 22, 2008, 03:40:25 AM »
Manong Lin, akong Lolo kay diha sya'y duha ka mangkay na auntie so bale amo na tong great grand aunties!  Dili man kaayo sila luoy tan awon kay daghan man sila'g mga pag umangkon and then elementary up to high school or up until namatay sila, we took care of them.  as always the case in our bayan na the poorest family got to take care of our elderly kay ang mga richie2x dili man jud mo lingi ug naa nay alimahunon bisan na lang gani unta mohatag financial support.  Anyway, in our case, it wasn't hard to take care of them kay they were so loving people and they helped us when we were growing up kon wa nami bugas malung-ag.

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« Reply #126 on: January 22, 2008, 03:46:45 AM »

in that case wala nay problema but look the other side how they smile the emptiness in their life... ako bitaw to silang komedyahan adtong bata pa ko nga siguro wala gyud nangulitawo sa inyo sauna kay wala man mo magminyo motubag man sab nga diha man kuno wala lang suerte.

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« Reply #127 on: January 22, 2008, 03:55:01 AM »
Hala, come to think of it, both side diay sa akong parents naay manghay.  tsk tsk tsk high risk jud diay unta ko adto maayo na lang nahalin hehehehe

In our great grand aunties' case, ga help man gud sila sa akong great grandma kay daghan man to sya'g ana dayon my grandfather had 11 children so busy jud ilang career.  Ug kabalo naman ka ug teacher didto (one of the two great grand aunties was a teacher) mura ba maka ward off sa mga boys.  But mao na jud siguro to naka guhit sa ilang palad.  Basta I can tell na they were so loved.  That brings back what I had in my mind na di jud ko matiguwang ani na nasud kay nah ibilin lang gajud kita sa care homes.  Naa koy friends dre na ilang mother gibutang sa care home even if she isn't that old yet.  They are nice people but for them it's a big inconvenience to take care of their mother.  When we were growing up, there was just one mother to take care of all of us kids and now tiguwang na atong inahan unya daghan tang mga anak di na ta ka take care?  Mao jud na ang lahi ra jud pod dre compared sa atong nasud.

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« Reply #128 on: January 25, 2008, 03:11:36 PM »


Why Philippines is attractive for expats as a retirement haven it is because of our culture of sincere domesticated service and loyalty for someone who has helped in one way or another....ang tawag ana "mounong".

In the west, it is full of IMPERSONALISM.. kon wala nakay gamit or ayo, ignored ka or neglected. pero dinhi matigulang na ka unya maayo ang imong kinaiya mounong gyod nimo hangtod ta molangyaw sa laing kalibutan.

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« Reply #129 on: January 25, 2008, 03:30:16 PM »
That's true jud, Jun.  We have so much respect for our elderly people.  Here, they care more their pets than elderly.  I went to visit today an elderly friend in the care home with one of the daughters. I used to keep this old woman company while she was still in her house.  When I saw her today, it crushed my heart to see her with big bruise in the left side of her face as if somebody paddled her face!  I was told she fell.  For the past 2 months that she is in the care home, she lost 26 pounds already.  She doesn't eat the food there.  I don't think I could ever do that to my own mother.  When I go home, I will sleep in between my parents to feel them and someday when they grow a bit older, we will build a house close to my parents so I can keep an eye on them and whenever they need me I will be there for them.

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« Reply #130 on: January 25, 2008, 03:31:42 PM »
Also kay sa akong nasod mga anak dli support ang magulang - si bali, parents pay hangtod mamatay!

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« Reply #131 on: January 25, 2008, 03:49:10 PM »
Ben, I think the government pays to take care of the elderly especially if they have social security benefits.  When I went to the care home today, there were lots of old people there.  Crying for help and I guess the nurses or caregivers there are used already to hear these old people pleading for help.  It's just so sad.  When we were young, I don't think our parents let us cry as much as they are crying now.  This woman that I visited today, she told me before she would rather die than be in a care home.  Well, she didn't have a chance because her children who are my friends wouldn't want to take her.  The first week she was in the care home right before Thanksgiving, she threatened to kill herself so her anti-depressant was doubled. Unbelievable!  I didn't want to see her again because it makes me feel so sad but then again, she is happy when I see her so that's why I still visit her.  I bring her food and we eat together.   

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« Reply #132 on: January 25, 2008, 03:54:29 PM »

Well said, Mr. Ayag. And I hope that the Philippine tourism sector taps into this resource, which, if properly handled, could generate thousands of jobs and result in a 'trickle down' effect for the country.

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« Reply #133 on: January 25, 2008, 04:20:50 PM »
Did you know that the government, at least in the UK, will force the old person to sell their house to fund their stay at a very expensive and unpleasant care home.  Imagine losing all you've worked for in return for a horrible experience!
The other side of the coin: there are some good retirement / OAP homes, some have a good sociable atmosphere.

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« Reply #134 on: January 26, 2008, 04:53:10 AM »

Hi Pare!  Had heard about this newly  built-up "Home for the Aged" I think somewhere in Baclayon.   Only I'm not aware whether it is already going on for business and also about the monthly basic prices.

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« Reply #135 on: January 26, 2008, 05:04:46 AM »

That's right Ben!  This procedure is also done here in Germany...you saved and worked for nothing if you will get old- you will lost everything.  On the other hand,  a  very good, clean and with excellent nursing services tendered based to the value of the expensive monthly rates where the relatives concerned must have to answer.
 

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« Reply #136 on: January 26, 2008, 05:09:30 AM »

Mao ba Ms. Bambi naa na tay "Home for the Aged" sa Bohol?  I can't believe it kay we always take care naman jud of our elderly family members.  By the way, dili na acceptable dre ang term nato diha na "Home for the Aged" kay dili daw na politically correct na term.  Instead, they call here Home for the elderly or Senior Homes. 

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« Reply #137 on: January 26, 2008, 05:35:26 AM »

I think Jun...those foreigners who are already residing here is not only attracted of the beauty of our nature, culture and to other things. They stay here because their  money has still a good change but for how long?  I have a good friends who settled here for almost 5 years...the first reason is... why they must have to stay here it's because he was the only one earning before and his more than a 1,000.00 Euro pension to spend here in Europe couldn't not be enough to cope -up the expensive life here and aside you need to pay almost 3,000.00 Euro for the home of the aged. On the other hand, both parties (couple) shared the benefits "she must have to take care of him and he feeds her and  the whole Family here for they have no other source of income. "

In the further discussion, Ben had stated that the Europian old people are forced to sale everything what the earned
from the whole life time just to pay for a better attendance and  care under excellent nursing supervision.  And this is true. The children who are supposed to be  the beneficiaries must have to support for their old parents and if there is something to heir with, and in fact, they must have to answer the rest payment if the parents pension would not be enough. So, if you can't afford to submit your olds to the Old folks house, you must have to take good care of them under your custody and care until death.

I disagree about the word "impersonalism" used because as observed also the western countries they love and support their parents until to the end.  Just like what we are doing towards our olds.....those who can help... will do it. In fact, there are also Pinoys who never cares their parents even they are in very good life situation, isn't?           

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« Reply #138 on: January 26, 2008, 10:53:56 PM »

Hi Grazie,

I only heard this new establishment from my sister who is residing there in Tagb. but to the fact, she is not also aware of how far they are now on business and also the related charges for the old people conveniences. It was my plan to check it out, but lately  we just settled about my Mama's situation. And in fact, our treat and tradition will not allow this kind of services from strange persons as they stated (maulaw baya ta kuno...bu it seems that everyone is busy entertaining their own problems).  It was a great part of my home visit about the matter. That "Home for the Aged in Baclayon, might probably  more privatized and am sure it is commonly open for people with extra money and for foriegners. Under my category, I can't surely get on with it.

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« Reply #139 on: January 27, 2008, 01:06:47 AM »


I believe the Retirement Homes planned in Baclayon are intended for expats who could afford.  With the currency exchange... they could spend them well here in the Phils. than in their own country. 

Here they could afford to hire as many helpers to take care of them while in their country they will not have the luxury of having similar treatment as what we have here...

in every undertaking there is an exception of course...when I used the word "impersonalism", this refers to the trend though there are exceptions.

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