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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 06:11:01 PM »

this is something new, thanks for sharing Padre. I think this is hard to implement nowadays.

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 12:52:12 AM »
lisod gyod tuod. 

anus-a to ang imong adlawng natawhan? 
ingon si nanay nga tingbukad man to sa panglot nga diutay...

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 12:57:31 AM »
kalisod ba ana..
Ako natawo sa Hingot-hingot buwan Dagangcahoy... ::)

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 01:02:17 AM »
ngano kaha nga magligid-ligid man sa Sunday? maajo lang ug naay unlan nga ligiran. :)

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 01:23:47 AM »
aning tungora, kumbinsido na ko nga si bugsay natawo sa liguidliguid sa lubodlubod. ;D

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 01:27:32 AM »
di pod ko mahibung nga si hubag uyon sa iyang natawhan nga ducutducut sa himbabuyan.  matod pa, maayo na lang ning ducutducut kaysa bag-id-bag-id sa babuy. ;D

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2012, 08:26:17 AM »
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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2012, 12:42:23 PM »
Danghus sa Dagangbuwan... si ako  ;)



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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 01:11:30 PM »
danghus sa panglot nga diutay... (bisan usa wa ko'y nasabtan) ;D

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 03:30:01 PM »


he he he , interesting ! I learned something new today. Thanks, Father Roel.

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 10:23:10 PM »
all the time; nothing beats new knowledge.  ikaw lorenz natawo sa ikatulo ug napulo ka adlaw sa tingbukad sa hubag sa hidapdapon.  maajong adlawng natawhan! ;D

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2012, 05:58:37 AM »
all the time; nothing beats new knowledge.

Some interesting ones  ;)

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012, 02:32:08 PM »
all the time; nothing beats new knowledge.  ikaw lorenz natawo sa ikatulo ug napulo ka adlaw sa tingbukad sa hubag sa hidapdapon.  maajong adlawng natawhan! ;D

He he he ! I never knew the original Bisaya word for July, but now I know that it is Hidapdapon. Lawom kaayo uy! :)

And yes Isles you are so right, it's always good to learn something new.

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2012, 02:41:47 AM »
Akong paborito, Liguidliguid :D

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2012, 05:06:31 AM »
Kining dominggo liguidliguid kay human simba mag ligid ligid man ta tingpahuway. Tabo man sa Calape ug huwebes mao dagway ni gibasihan sa mga karaan sa tabo sa amoa nga bailobailo heheheh. Magbarter ang mga islahanon sa taga bukid ug buwad to pawo then lab as isda sa nego or mga lagutmon.
Nakadungog ko aning uban nga word sa mga karaang managatay sa amoa. Until now naay panagsa mogamit ani.

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2012, 05:07:58 AM »
October bagyo bagyo kay ting bagyo jud bitaw ning buwana hehheh


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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2012, 05:18:16 AM »
Kining dominggo liguidliguid kay human simba mag ligid ligid man ta tingpahuway.

He he, sakto. Lazy Sunday ni Botoy...

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Re: Kalendaryong Binisaya
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2012, 05:19:23 AM »
Cebuano calendar uses Karay-a; Ludabi member asked to explain
By Rizel S. Adlawan
Sunday, January 23, 2011


PROVINCIAL officials wanted to verify about a Cebuano calendar published by Dr. Jess Tirol after a resident of Talisay City said the terms used were Karay-a.

Segundo Pangantihon told the Provincial Board (PB) members during the recent session he is a true-blooded Antiqueño who speaks Karay-a. He said the words used by Tirol were not Cebuano.

He said Tirol used the Karay-a words for the days in the calendar like Ligid-ligid, Tagburukad, Dumason, Dukot-dukot, Baylo-baylo, Danghus and Hingot-hingot.

He said the months from January to December were translated as Ulalong, Daghangkahoy, Kabay, Hidapdapon, Lubad-lubad, Kangurosol, Bagyo-bagyo, Panglot nga Dyutay and
Panglot nga Dako.

“These are Karay-a terms, contrary to his claim that these are Cebuano words,” Pangantihon said, in an interview after the session.

He gave PB members copies of the Panay calendar and said his brother Vicente has been publishing it for the last five years. He said these copies are available at National Historical Institute and the National Library.

He said his brother researched about and has been printing a calendar entitled “Panay Church & History Calendar” using the same terms used by Tirol.

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Tirol is a member of Lubas sa Dagang Bisaya (Ludabi) and is connected with the University of Bohol. He was invited by the PB to shed light on the issue last month but he was not able to make it.

Sun.Star Cebu tried to contact Tirol but failed.

PB Member Arleigh Sitoy, a close friend of Tirol and also a member of Ludabi, assured his colleagues Tirol will attend the session tomorrow. He said Tirol often visits his father, Cordova Mayor Adelino Sitoy.

He said in jest Tirol was afraid of the big waves in Bohol last month that’s why he was not able to appear at the PB.

PB Member Agnes Magpale sponsored a resolution about Tirol’s calendar and said Pangan-tihon’s claim needs to be verified.

She said as a Cebuano, the calendar should be checked before it will be circulated further.

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on January 23, 2011.

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2012, 05:25:54 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2012, 05:33:41 AM »
A calendar in Cebuano
By Jobers Bersales
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First Posted 08:17:00 11/11/2010


Jes Tirol of the University of Bohol has just published a seven-day, 12-month calendar in Cebuano. Dr. Erlinda Alburo, director of the USC Cebuano Studies Center, loaned it to me over the weekend because my curiosity was piqued.

I would have wanted to find out how he came about the terms used in his calendar, which he calls Tuigan (obviously derived from the Cebuano word for year, tuig), but this is basically a calendar and not a research paper and so I am left with wonderment. At least, Tirol provides some explanation on the meaning behind the term for each month at a boxed section of each page in his calendar.

Tirol has apparently adapted the Western or Gregorian calendar to lay out the days of the Tuigan, which starts the week on a Sunday (he calls it Ligid-ligid) and ends with Saturday (Hingut-hingot). The week days run this way: Monday is Tigburukad, Tuesday is Dumason, Wednesday is Dukot-dukot, Thursday is Baylu-baylo and Friday is Danghos. But he does not end there. He also uses the 12-month cycle of the Gregorian calendar that we are most familiar with.

The Tuigan's first seven months (Ulalong, Daghangkahoy, Daghangbulan, Kiling, Himaboyan, Kabay, Hidapdapon), are quite similar to those mentioned by the explorer Miguel de Loarca in his Relacion de las Islas Filpinas, written in 1595 (i.e. Ulalen, Dagankahuy, Daganen Bulan, Elkilin, Inabuyan, Kaway and Irarapun). Loarca wrote that our ancestors observed a 12-month calendar but only seven of these were named. The rest were not because, according to him, our ancestors' method of reckoning was based on the seasonal planting of fields and the harvesting crops, which effectively covered only seven months.

How Loarca came to the conclusion that Cebuanos knew of a 12-month year akin to those in Europe remains unexplained. The historian William Henry Scott, writing in Barangay: Sixteenth-Century Philippine Culture and Society, gives caution to Loarca's terms in that they do not, according to him, appear in early Bisayan dictionaries as names of months but rather as specific events that happen in swidden (or kaingin) farming.

This fact is important because, as Scott notes further, before the introduction of the Western/Gregorian calendar, Bisayans reckoned the days not by looking at the sun but by observing the waxing and waning of the moon, a cycle of 29 and-a-half-days and 43 minutes to be exact (p. 122), which if spread into 12 cycles would only total to 354 days as against the modern 365-day calendar which is not based on the lunar cycle. Furthermore, our ancestors did not see tuig to mean a full year of 12 months but any recurring period of time, like the routine of field preparation, planting, weeding and eventually, harvesting.

So what are we to make of this adaptation of the Gregorian calendar into Cebuano? I believe that is what it simply is: an adaptation. I would like to think that the terms are borrowed from some historical sources somewhere that were developed during the Spanish period when the Gregorian calendar was already widely used inasmuch as it was an important referent to the Catholic paschal cycle. Incidentally, the final five months are these: Kangurulsol, Bagyu-bagyo, Panglot nga Dyutay and Panglot nga Dako. If you want to know what these terms mean in Cebuano, it's time to get hold of Jes Tirol's Tuigan.

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2012, 10:33:58 AM »
Where does Prof. Lina Quimat come in? Hehehehe...




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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 03:36:05 PM »
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