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here I is.....

I just came from the meeting of TBN officers unfortunately we were not able to gather enough people to hold a quorum so it was suggested by our Vice President (Atty. Raul Barborona) who was standing in for the clubs regular board president who was absent this day, that we would have an officers meeting instead. The Tagbilaran By Night Board since we had no other choice as it has been 3 months already from when the organization sat down last June 16th, to discuss matters to be taken care of.

I had given the cellphone of jerry Pabe to Atty. Raul Barborona in front of everyone who was there. Atty. Raul called to Pabe and told Pabe that we the TBN will give monthly donations of 1000 pesos from the account in where the money is being held starting next Monday.

During the phone conversation our secretary who is either you or your best friend (since you seem to know so much about what is going on with the board of directors and anything else?)......had threatened everyone that she is resigning verbally as she said her reasons are for she does not want to have any complaints with the BIR and she also stated that her and Jerry have an long time ongoing conflict from what she has heard from others regarding jerry Pabe being a contra towards her.

Atty. Raul had tabled her reasons to be discussed under other matters at the end of the meeting and informed her and the rest of the officers present that she would need to make a formal request letter to the president regarding her resignation.

After things were explained to our secretary from our Vice President she still felt adamant about her plans to vacate her position as a secretary.

Atty.Raul said that she would still be in the organization and could still help out. When asked through-out the meeting if she was still going to resign she should she must....and she also added that she would put it in the minutes as I had observed her doing so.

Atty. Raul said that the program Tagbilaran by Night is a station produced show belonging to DYRD if they accept walk in donations and said that the TBN Volunteer organization will not not be liable for it.

He also stated any monies made from jingles,or other donations going to the show are theirs not the organizations.

The group needs to Turn in any receipts and reports dating back to the years 2008-2009 and pay the BIR fine and for four books around 2500 in December in order to start out clean again....reports should be brought to SEC as well by April 2011 in order to renew for the year.

It was moved by the president via cellphone that the next meeting will be held on October 16th, 2010. same venue and same time. The meeting is being moved due to the all souls and saints day holiday weekend....

I did ask our secretary who was Cheers in the wesite Tubog Bohol but she told me it could be her friend Che Che.....who is working at BIR because she is always talking about being worried to face her classmates who work there at BIR....

Atty. Raul told assured our secretary she would have very little to do in dealing with the BIR that the work needs to be done by the treasurer of the TBN organization........

Cheers thanks for your concern......but it seems to me as if your angry at Pabe who is just the anchorman of the show Tagbilaran By night.......

instead of trying to waste energy on finding fault why not join the organization and help people who need to be truly helped....especially during these difficult times....










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I am a donor too and my relatives are donors.  That is why we are concerned about it because we stopped donating since we attended the general assembly with our classmates that there was no financial statement presented and that is why I was inquiring from them.  My classmate is really struggling her effort I know That is why when I have given her a copy that it was monthly contributions from TBN members in Ireland that are raised by TBN Ireland entrusted to Pabe we have the right to question on it.  Is TBN Ireland an authorized organization to collect funds from TBN members in Ireland?  You are questioning the right of your Secretary miss jellybean.  I even comforted your secretary when we conversed after your meeting not to resign. You need an auditor to audit everything so that you could understand.  When you were chating with an TBN Ireland donor a certain hofelina warned you of the proper protocol of collecting funds.

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Cheers,Are you questioning the money of TBN ireland?we are not even  part of TBN CLub.so nobody have the right to audit our own money except our group.Are you questioning as well if we are entitled to collect money to each member of TBN ireland?C'mon,we are here in Ireland,you dont have the right to question if we have the right to collect money from TBN group,this is a voluntary thing...For your information we have the access of our own money even we entrusted it to Mr.Jerry Pabe.If you have problem ,with your donations,then pulled it out...How much money do you donate to TBN Anyway....Stopped bothering yourself about other donations.It's non of your concern anyway...

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Is there a certain protocol  in collecting money for donations right now??IN the Philippines????We dont need a certain protocol in raising money to  give donations to TBN....TBN ireland is a group of friends and family who have the same purpose in helping the needy people of Bohol   who seek help thru TBN program of DYRD...As far as we know,nobody from the group have spoken to a certain person about our donations.We directly communicate to Mr.Jerry Pabe....

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cheers, did u ask Mr. Pabe to ask for a financial report on your money donated?
if you listening to the tbn program, it shows namn how Mr. Pabe desiminate the money u gave d ba?
maau r sad nga miundang mog hatag para d madugangan inyong pagduda kn giunsa pg hatag nang kwrtaha...ngduda man d i mo...




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The subject is under research.

But other matter like the following is true:

DONOR’S TAX

    DESCRIPTION

        Donor’s Tax is a tax on a donation or gift, and is imposed on the gratuitous transfer of property between two or more persons who are living at the time of the transfer.  It shall apply whether the transfer is in trust or otherwise, whether the gift is direct or indirect and whether the property is real or personal, tangible or intangible.

    TAX FORM

        BIR Form 1800 – Donor’s Tax Return

    DOCUMENTARY REQUIREMENTS

        The following requirements must be submitted upon field or office audit of the tax case before the Tax Clearance Certificate/Certificate Authorizing Registration can be released:

           1. Deed of Donation
           2. Sworn Statement of the relationship of the donor to the donee
           3. Proof of tax credit, if applicable
           4. Certified true copy(ies) of the Original/Transfer/Condominium Certificate of Title (front  and back ) of lot and/or improvement donated, if applicable
           5. Certified true copy(ies) of the latest Tax Declaration (front and back pages) of lot and/or improvement, if applicable
           6. “Certificate of No Improvement” issued by the Assessor’s office where the properties have no declared improvement, if applicable
           7. Proof of valuation of shares of stocks at the time of donation, if applicable
                  * For listed stocks - newspaper clippings or certification issued by the Stock Exchange as to the par value per share
                  * For unlisted stocks - latest audited Financial Statements of the issuing corporation with computation of the book value per share
           8. Proof of valuation of other types of personal properties, if applicable
           9. Proof of claimed deductions, if applicable
          10. Copy of Tax Debit Memo used as payment, if applicable

        Additional requirements may be requested for presentation during audit of the tax case depending upon existing audit procedures.

    TAX RATES

Effective January 1, 1998 to present

Net Gift
Over
  
100,000.00
200,000.00
500,000.00
1,000,000.00
3,000,000.00
5,000,000.00
10,000,000.00

But not Over
P100,000.00
200,000.00
500,000.00
1,000,000.00
3,000,000.00
5,000,000.00
10,000,000.00
and over

The Tax
Shall be
exempt
0
P 2,000.00
14,000.00
44,000.00
204,000.00
404,000.00
1,004,000.00

Plus
  
2%
4%
6%
8%
10%
12%
15%

Of the
Excess Over
  
100,000.00
200,000.00
500,000.00
1,000,000.00
3,000,000.00
5,000,000.00
10,000,000.00

Notes:
1.    Rate applicable shall be based on the law prevailing at the time of donation.

   2. When the gifts are made during the same calendar year but on different dates, the donor’s tax computed on the total net gifts during the year.  

    Donation made to a stranger is subject to 30% of the net gift. A stranger is a person who is not a:

    * brother, sister (whether by whole or half blood), spouse, ancestor and lineal descendants; or
    * relative by consanguinity in the collateral line within the fourth degree of relationship (up to first cousin)

    

    Effective July 28, 1992 to December 31, 1997

Net Gift
Over
  
50,000.00
100,000.00
200,000.00
500,000.00
1,000,000.00
3,000,000.00
5,000,000.00

But not Over
P50,000.00
100,000.00
200,000.00
500,000.00
1,000,000.00
3,000,000.00
5,000,000.00
and over

The Tax
Shall be
Exempt
1.5%
P 750.00
3,750.00
18,750.00
58,750.00
258,750.00
558,750.00

Plus
  

3%
5%
8%
10%
15%
20%

Of the
Excess Over
  
50,000.00
100,000.00
200,000.00
500,000.00
1,000,000.00
3,000,000.00
5,000,000.00

    Donation made to a stranger is subject to 10% of the net gift. A stranger is a person who is not a:

    * brother, sister (whether by whole or half blood), spouse, ancestor and lineal descendants; or
    * relative by consanguinity in the collateral line within the fourth degree of relationship

    Effective before July 28, 1992

  Net Gift
Over
  
1,000.00
50,000.00
75,000.00
100,000.00
150,000.00
200,000.00
300,000.00
400,000.00
500,000.00
625,000.00
750,000.00
875,000.00
1,000,000.00
2,000,000.00
3,000,000.00

But not Over
P1,000.00
50,000.00
75,000.00
100,000.00
150,000.00
200,000.00
300,000.00
400,000.00
500,000.00
625,000.00
750,000.00
875,000.00
1,000,000.00
2,000,000.00
3,000,000.00

The Tax
Shall be
Exempt
1.5%
P 735.00
1,360.00
2,110.00
5,110.00
9,610.00
21,610.00
36,610.00
54,610.00
80,860.00
110,860.00
145,860.00
185,860.00
545,860.00
925,860.00

The Tax
Shall be
Exempt
1.5%
P 735.00
1,360.00
2,110.00
5,110.00
9,610.00
21,610.00
36,610.00
54,610.00
80,860.00
110,860.00
145,860.00
185,860.00
545,860.00
925,860.00

Of the
Excess Over
  
1,000.00
50,000.00
75,000.00
100,000.00
150,000.00
200,000.00
300,000.00
400,000.00
500,000.00
625,000.00
750,000.00
875,000.00
1,000,000.00
2,000,000.00
3,000,000.00

    Donation made to a stranger is subject to 20% of the net gift. A stranger is a person who is not a:

    * brother, sister (whether by whole or half blood), spouse, ancestor and lineal descendants; or
    * relative by consanguinity in the collateral line within the fourth degree of relationship

    PROCEDURES

        File the return in triplicate (two copies for the BIR and one copy for the taxpayer) with any Authorized Agent Bank (AAB) of the RDO having jurisdiction over the place of the domicile of the donor at the time of the transfer. In places where there are no AAB, the return will be filed directly with the Revenue Collection Officer or duly Authorized City or Municipal Treasurer where the donor was domiciled at the time of the transfer, or if there is no legal residence in the Philippines, with Revenue District No. 39 - South Quezon City.

        In the case of gifts made by a non-resident alien, the return may be filed with Revenue District No. 39 - South Quezon City, or with the Philippine Embassy or Consulate in the country where donor is domiciled at the time of the transfer.

        Submit all documentary requirements and proof of payment to the Revenue District Office having jurisdiction over the place of residence of the donor.

    DEADLINES

        Within thirty days (30) after the date the gift (donation) is made. A separate return will be filed for each gift (donation) made on the different dates during the year reflecting therein any previous net gifts made during the same calendar year

        If the gift (donation) involves conjugal/community/property, each spouse will file separate returns corresponding to his/ her respective share in the conjugal/community property. This rule will also apply in the case of co-ownership over the property

    RELATED REVENUE ISSUANCES

        RR No. 2-2003 and RMO No. 1-98

    CODAL REFERENCE

        Sec. 98 to Sec. 104 of the National Internal Revenue Code

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

    1.   Who are required to file the Donor’s Tax Return?

        Every person, whether natural or juridical, resident or non-resident, who transfers or causes to transfer property by gift, whether in trust or otherwise, whether the gift is direct or indirect and whether the property is real or personal, tangible or intangible.

    2)   What are the procedures in filing the Donor’s Tax return?

        File the return in triplicate (two copies for the BIR and one copy for the taxpayer) with any Authorized Agent Bank (AAB) of the RDO having jurisdiction over the place of the domicile of the donor at the time of the transfer. In places where there are no AAB, the return will be filed directly with the Revenue Collection Officer or duly Authorized City or Municipal Treasurer where the donor was domiciled at the time of the transfer, or if there is no legal residence in the Philippines, with Revenue District No. 39 - South Quezon City.

        In the case of gifts made by a non-resident alien, the return may be filed with Revenue District No. 39 - South Quezon City, or with the Philippine Embassy or Consulate in the country where donor is domiciled at the time of the transfer.

        Submit all documentary requirements and proof of payment to the Revenue District Office having jurisdiction over the place of residence of the donor.

    3)   What donations are tax exempt?      

        Â·    Dowries or donations made on account of marriage before its celebration or within one year thereafter, by parents to each of their legitimate, recognized natural, or adopted children to the extent of the first P10,000

        Â·    Gifts made to or for the use of the National Government or any entity created by any of its agencies which is not conducted for profit, or to any political subdivision of the said Government

        Â·    Gifts in favor of an educational and/or charitable, religious, cultural or social welfare corporation, institution, accredited non-government organization, trust or philantrophic organization or research institution or organization, provided not more than 30% of said gifts will be used by such donee for administration purposes

        Â·    Encumbrances on the property donated if assumed by the donee in the deed of donation

        Â·    Donations made to the following entities as exempted under special laws:

        -     Aquaculture Department of the Southeast Asian Fisheries Development Center of the Philippines

        -     Development Academy of the Philippines

        -     Integrated Bar of the Philippines

        -     International Rice Research Institute

        -     National Social Action Council

        -     Ramon Magsaysay Foundation

        -     Philippine Inventor’s Commission

        -     Philippine American Cultural Foundation

        -     Task Force on Human Settlement on the donation of equipment, materials and services

    

    4)   What are the bases in the valuation of property?

        If the gift is made in property, the fair market value at that time will be considered the amount of gift

        In case of real property, the taxable base is the fair market value as determined by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue (Zonal Value) or fair market value as shown in the latest schedule of values of the provincial and city assessor (MV per Tax Declaration), whichever is higher

        If there is no zonal value, the taxable base is the fair market value that appears in the latest tax declaration

        If there is an improvement, the value of improvement is the construction cost per building permit and or occupancy permit plus 10% per year after year of construction, or the market value per latest tax declaration.

    


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I am not questioning your voluntary work what I am questioning is the proper handling and auditing of money or any funds for charity.  thus any institution or group of people collecting funds from other people must be in proper procedures.  Even if you are in good objective but not in the proper procedure of handling the collections is still questionable by the government agencies concerned. You said you are collecting from other people and that is why we from BIR are concerned of that.  No organization or individuals are allowed to collect if they are not a registered foundation or charity organizations from SEC and BIR.  If DYRD is collecting that and Gerry Pabe is receiving it , it is not Gerry Pabe's money and he is using the name of TBN Club or TBN program of DYRD.  DYRD must also be liable for our audit on that.  That is why I questioned the Secretary why what happened after her listing in DYRD station which was aired over the radio that she ws auditing.  After all they are not submitting the records of donations.  Last TBN general assembly I attended the occasion because it was also the Christmas Party.  A certain Mrs. Pinlac commented that all donations of benefactors even in 100 or any certain amounts will be listed and the benefactors will be given certificates by the Club.  But Gerry Pabe failed to submit the list during the next assembly. He explained it in teh assembly that it was lost.  I was there listening to that.  Is it easy to accept that reason.  And then now after he was audited by the Secretary many arguments came according to her.  Gerry Pabe insisted that the money from TBN ireland is his daughter's money.  And after I have read the message from a TBN Ireland donor that it was a monthly contribution from TBN Ireland those TBN members in Ireland I was confused and printed it out and forwarded ti to the Secretary for further explanations and clarifications of the issue. I know you are a relative of Pabe since he insisted that it is the money of his daughter but I was confused of the message from a donor in Ireland that it was collected as monthly dues.  Only registered organizations can collect monthly dues. As permitted by SEC and BIR. I am talking to legality of transactions and verify a lawyer before you react.

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lets not make the issue harder, ok...if you want to help the needy people, dli ky dghan p ug bagotbot...kn gusto mo motabang, palihog nalng ug adto sa DYRd ug mopersonal nga mohatag sa kwrta para wla nay dakong istorya...intiende!!!

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We're talking about TBN.
Why make so much fuss?
Kung naabot naman sa hingtungdan ang tabang.
We're friends here not enemies

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It is not on the airing of the donations that we are questioning in BIR.  It is the documentation of the collections to the Government agencies concerned.  ABS CBN for example is a foundation formed by ABS CBN for their charity works.  And the Television income is not stating the charity collections because they are having their collections in the foundation funds. This is a clear protocol of collecting charity.

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Cheers,We have nothing to do with the TBN club.So TBN Ireland does not have any involvement in any group.We are a small group consist of 18 families only....Don't involve yourselves to our group.TBN Program did not ask donations from us ,this is our simple way of  sharing the blessings we have by helping the needy people.Is TBN Club still active in helping the beneficiaries of TBN right now,THINK about it...Why are you so interested in our donations anyway??? Each and everyone of us have the access to the donations we sent to TBN....As long as our money reach to the people in need,we are very much happy....

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Ireflect naman lamang ni sija sa atong individual ITR. 1701 man na sija. For individuals, once naa kay TIN buot ipasabot registered na ka sa BIR.

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uNSA MAN IMO I PA REFLECT KUNG WALA KAY RECEIPT.  RECEIPT SA RECIPIENT ORGANIZATION OR INDIVIDUAL DONEE MR. TAGA TIGBAO

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Hahahahaha. Sorry na gud, nisuway ra man ko ug tubag ba. Sige, dili na ko makisawsaw ani. Wa man pud koy kalabutan anang mga hitabo pud. Hahahahaha. Peace talks na lamang ta.

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Thank you for that post, Priscilla.

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As an investigating team member I am not as arrogant to show myself online.  We have a work to be proud off and a job to be done in a smoother way not like being showy to anyone without doing something but adding trouble to a group.  This trouble became bi because of You Jelly bean.  We are a team reading your positings investigating it online.  We are not tanga and tackless as what you have said.  Maybe If my classmate have said something to Gerry Pabe because he was arrogant of saying that he owns the moeny and last night when I listened to the radio he mentioned that the money is contributed by several individuals.  there is the difference there and not our statements.  Better move out from TBN because you are tolerating the slap of the organizational objective of tracing the collections given to DYRD. Even just in our locality you can trace who these people who are giving their annual dues but not issued to TBN Club, Inc. What can you say about it? ?? ?  And you are not really a TBN member anyway.  oportunista ka lang.  PROUD TO SAY KBP ako. KAYABAG SA BABAING PUSOY. maybe that is what it mean. i AM GOING TO PRINT THIS STATEMENTS OF YOURS AND PRESENT IT TO THE REST OF TBN Volunteers club officers so that they could decide on your attitude. I am not an initiator of JerJer unlike you Priscilla.  I can sue you for libel for that. If I am an alumnus of a certain school where students do it we are the team that could persecute them all including you who keeps on talking without evidences of what you are talking. You are gossiped by your in-laws as "jerjer lady." hehe that is what I heard from all talks of the town.  Anyway you examine yourself first in the mirror before you say something.  Reflect on what you can see of yourself making a column in a newspaper.  Refer it first to a lawyer.  You even included the churches people who are not involved in this issue.  We are talking about TBN Club organization wherein Anchorman Pabe was the organizing achorman and when audited used many alibies as lost book, as what I have heard in the assembly.  And now after the Secretary audited he said to many that TBN IRELAND IS THE MONEY OF HIS DAUGHTER and we have read a statement contradicting that it is a monthly collection from TBN members in Ireland.....

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Cheers your entitled to think and believe what you want....

I am a Mormon and would never go against my church. We have laws of chastity.

to avoid the following things;

1.) Avoid masturbation

2.) Avoid pornography

3.) Avoid Fornication

4.) Avoid Homosexuality

5.) No dress for spaghetti straps, sleeveless, shorts no showing of midriff... as in hide knees shoulders back and stomach

6.) No tattoo's

7.) Not allowed for women to wear more than one pair of earrings at a time...

*******

My in laws have never given me a chance I am an outsider as in being a foreigner..... No matter how nice or good to them I am they will never change their ways.... They have been really spiteful to me as long as I can remember...

I know the kind of person that I am and what I do.

I am well aware of of the mentality here of some persons is like the devil....

Here let me tell you what the devil wants people to do for him to be happy;

"Satan loves it when we criticize one another."

"Satan loves it when we laugh at our neighbors losses"

"We work on things doing things that God and our heavenly father have intended.....Charity is a good place to start....

 

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 HOLY COW!!! I tot our weather is pretty HOT!!!

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Did you know when divine mercy or other companies donate to the TBN program at their own freedom of choice and discretion, the poor people will sign separate pieces of paper per donor so that the ones donating have the evidence that they have given and so that they can report it to the BIR....Are you aware of this?  ------- Yes perhaps the secretary knows about these papers.  But why is it that he did not issue vouchers to the recipients of the donations from TBN Club? he will only give a list as far as I have known without the respective signatures of the recipients which is very wrong.   You are very defensive of protecting the mistakes of Gerry Pabe. It is very unlawful as it is explained by a certain Hofelina in this forum but you refused to understand because you are following your own principle of just collecting and giving.  There is no wrong if you give but the proper documentation of the persons concerned using the name of TBN collecting or receiving funds from donors and benefactors.  for DELIKADESA sake you should follow proper rules.  We are investigating in this forum traffics of collections online using charity organizations and foundations just for the benefits of persosn having vested interest of raising funds. You said you want an evidence that Gerry Pabe have said that TBN Ireland was his money......VERIFY IT WITH YOUR SECRETARY OR THE REST OF THE BOD MEMBERS.  IT IS VERY CLEAR I HEARD THEIR DELIBERATION DURING THE LAST TBN GENERAL ASSEMBLY and not HNU assembly for correction on your previous issue. We were with our classmates there at JJS That is the proper protocol and it was only done after I have questioned him.  The issuance of receipts is important and voucher system in the distribution that this is the proper protocol to be followed but Gerry Pabe insisted in his own way or principle.  You know my answers here are suggestions of our team on what they have replied on my e-mail and sometimes they are not aware of their grammar cause they are in a hurry typing a reply for there are so many things to investigate online not only this issue.  We understand that you have a lesser knowledge on this since you are not a member of TBN Volunteers Club, Inc. We are bonafide members we have been listening to the radio program and we have received our TBN numbers through Gerry Pabe and collected our monthly dues since year 2004. My mother was the first one in out family and she recruited us to attend the General Assembly wherein we voted for Mrs. Aranzado to be one of the BOD members for we know her capacity in recording.  Thanks for your concern of giving also.  WE ARE DOING THIS INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PROFESSIONAL BEGGARS GRABBING the opportunity using the name of charity organization for their own benefits and fame. I WARN YOU TO BE OUT OF TBN because I am afraid you might be joining the group that you are not interested with since you are only criticizing the group without joining the campaign of practicing proper documentations to avoid penalties of the Government agencies concerned.   We are not stopping others to donate but we stop because we don't want to tolerate the wrong practice. 

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