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Rebels in Bohol to be forgiven?
« on: August 24, 2007, 02:54:19 AM »
By Lira Dalangin-Fernandez
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TAGBILARAN, Bohol -- Officials here are pushing for an amnesty program for communist rebels to completely rid the province of insurgency, a move welcomed by Malacañang.

A resolution by the provincial government on the call for amnesty will be presented before President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo at the ongoing Local Peace and Security Assembly at the Bohol Tropics Resort in this city, Bohol Governor Erico Aumentado said.

Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye said the executive would support the move.

"The proposal of Governor Aumentado is based on a very successful experiment at the local level and it is worth considering," he told reporters in an interview.

In a separate news conference, National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales said the proposal should be considered "very, very seriously."

He said the executive branch was prepared to work with Congress for a law on amnesty for political offenders.

Gonzales said he would call a meeting of the National Security Council to discuss the details of a proposed law such as who would be included in it, what offenses it would cover, and how it would be defined.

Presidential Management Staff chief Cerge Remonde said the proposal could also be included in the Legislative-Executive Development Advisory Council (LEDAC).

He said Aumentado's proposal could trigger the process of discussions on amnesty among other local officials in other provinces.

Remonde said mini-LEDACs would be held where a more focused discussion on specific issues could take place.

Bohol is being showcased by the government as a province where the problem of insurgency has been curbed.

Lieutenant Colonel Oscar Lasange of the Armed Forces Civil Relations Service of Central Visayas said there were only about 35 to 50 New People's Army in the entire Bohol province.

He said he favored an amnesty to completely wipe out the rebels without using the military's might.

Dr. Asteria Estorion, who works with the Office of the Governor and who has worked for programs on returning rebels, said about 185 NPA have returned to the fold of law since the 90s.

He said the returnees were given livelihood projects and housing.

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Re: Rebels in Bohol to be forgiven?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 03:09:39 AM »

I don't think there are less than 50 NPA rebels left in the province. Basin noon nisamot. The militaries are having a hard time tracking down the rebels, that's why they offer amnesty programs.





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Re: Rebels in Bohol to be forgiven?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 03:12:37 AM »
I say they should be forgiven if they truly wish to cooperate in society and abide the laws.

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2007, 11:07:03 AM »

A very hard question to be answered.

If forgiven?- does our government has a program for helping them after rehabilitation?

If none ? - that means those Rebels are force to do the same functions as before.

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Re: Rebels in Bohol to be forgiven?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2007, 12:31:29 PM »
I don't think there are less than 50 NPA rebels left in the province. Basin noon nisamot. The militaries are having a hard time tracking down the rebels, that's why they offer amnesty programs.





sa ako nadunggan ni VRS, niquadrupled ang gidaghanon sa rebels sa Bohol karon. Pero para nako mas maayo kung ibalik ang amnesty proclamation kay sigurado daghan gyud na mosurrender kay taud2x na gud nawala na. Daghan gani ni surrender bisan giwagtang na ang balaod, unsa pa kaha kung ibalik na. Ang paghatag ug amnesty sa usa ka kanhi rebelde wa man pod na magpasabot nga pasayloon na gyud siya sa iyang mga salaud nga nahimo, tinuod pasayloon siya pero sa kaso ra nga rebellion, kung duna siyay giatubang mga ubang kaso samtang diha pa siya naglihok sa kawsa, iya gyud gihapon ning atubangon ug bayran ug gikinahanglan.

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Re: Rebels in Bohol to be forgiven?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2007, 12:34:02 PM »
Pagkakaron dunay programa nga gihatag ang gobyerno sa mga rebel returness sama sa housing, livelihood, yuta nga tikaron, scholarship sa ilang mga anakug uban pa, usahay gani ma misenterpret pa ni sa ubang tawo mao nga gustohon nalang pod nila nga magrebelde aron makaavail sa susamang mga assistance.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 12:37:58 PM »
Pero ang uban pod nga mga returnees, wala pa ma award ang ilang amnesty certificate nibalik na pag active sa ila grupo tungod sa kalisod sa panahon karon, unya gidugangan pod sa hinay kaayong paglihok sa serbisyo sa mga ahensiya sa gobyerno, nga maoy makahagit usahay sa uban pagbalik sa ilang kawsa

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 08:29:40 PM »

Good to know that said program u related but it is still said to know that it might be until to proclamation. Mao gjod ato Goberno when it comes what is good for our fellowmen di gjod lihokon pero if it terms of any profitable and personal aspects to those dagkog taing in service then lusot dayon. The persons involved (rebels) needs immediately to function for survival.... di unsa pa may kapili-an? Balik to the old roots, di ba?

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2007, 08:41:11 PM »
wie Sie bambi sind! guten Tag! just be friends with the government nalang!

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 09:06:25 PM »

Mein Gott MB!

If i will run  as a politician di gjod ko kada-ug bisag kapitan sa Beray lang.

U know, i was exposed and experienced such cases b4 which we handled  AUDITOR vs-TREASURER, was the one who took the preliminary investigation- i thought that this old history is not anymore practiced. It is and remain like a Black Jack game -bluffing!

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 09:07:19 PM »
 Bevor ich vergisse - Guten tag pod diha!

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 09:25:31 PM »

we should not forget that the main reason why these people join the rebel force is because of political matters. it's not about livelihood, but the present system of the government. they believe that the only way to change the decaying government system is through armed revolution. we may not believe but some of them come from middle class families, they can go back to the cities and live a good life whenever they want, but they choose the mountains because they want to serve the masses. that's part of their idealism.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 09:40:10 PM »
we should not forget that the main reason why these people join the rebel force is because of political matters. it's not about livelihood, but the present system of the government. they believe that the only way to change the decaying government system is through armed revolution. we may not believe but some of them come from middle class families, they can go back to the cities and live a good life whenever they want, but they choose the mountains because they want to serve the masses. that's part of their idealism.

yeah gin... these people are not content with just sitting out there doing nothing, watching the evergrowing corruption of the government and the people alike... they feel that something has to be done... and in their own way they made a move forwards their idealist goals... we should not judge people who take to the mountains as easily as a snap of a finger...

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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2007, 02:59:35 AM »

And want to promote national unity through revolutionary struggle.

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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2007, 03:44:08 AM »
sa akong nadunggan sa una kay mga graduate raba daw nang mga rebelde nga uban, kasagaran daw kay mga UP graduate... Naka-meet nako rebelde once, kadtong didto pako sa amoa, nisuiroy sila kay nangampanya nga moapil sa ilahang pwersa, 2 kabuok babae, pero wala may nisulod sa taga amo, dili man sab baya sila kahadlukan. mga babae ang niadto, nindot pa kaayo mga kutis. pero after 1 month namatay daw tong 2 kay naapil sa raid, sa Tulang.

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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2007, 03:53:30 AM »
naa man gani koy kaila na Doctor sa mga rebelde sa una na taga antequera! naa sad mga abogado sa mga rebelde taga antequera gihapon! hahahaahaha! mga prof na mga rebelde uy!

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2007, 03:55:02 AM »

yes..they are the intellectuals! di nalang ko mo expound kay lisud na...hehehe

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2007, 03:23:35 AM »

I still believe that no matter what, dili solution sa mga problema nato ang mopatay, just to trigger some change!

And I still do not believe that Communism is an answer!

Wa lang seguro ibang magawa ang mga supposedly "intellectuals" na yan ... minsan kasi, when one if full of idealism without being a realist, mao na dangatan -- ill-advised opinions and beliefs and convictions!  OK ra unta if said decisions only concern themselves --- dili --- instead of presenting positive solutions, theyl muddle the waters more, and worsen the situation!


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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2007, 03:28:09 AM »

I wonder if this article would ever reach the decision makers of any armed struggle in our country?  Why don't they fight ignorance by BUILDING more schools, instead of having to spend their resources on Armas ug mga Bala? ... buy more BOOKS, SHOES & UNIFORMS instead of creating havoc in the lives of people?

Kumbaga ... better and positive use of resources ba?


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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2007, 06:47:55 AM »
^ Good initiatives bitaw na--mo hope lang ta our gov is doing just that.

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2007, 05:35:44 PM »
we should not forget that the main reason why these people join the rebel force is because of political matters. it's not about livelihood, but the present system of the government. they believe that the only way to change the decaying government system is through armed revolution. we may not believe but some of them come from middle class families, they can go back to the cities and live a good life whenever they want, but they choose the mountains because they want to serve the masses. that's part of their idealism.

Yet its true...
we should not forget that the main reason why these people join the rebel force is because of political matters. it's not about livelihood, but the present system of the government. they believe that the only way to change the decaying government system is through armed revolution. we may not believe but some of them come from middle class families, they can go back to the cities and live a good life whenever they want, but they choose the mountains because they want to serve the masses. that's part of their idealism.

yes its true..because the cause of armed revolution in the Philippines is not simply poverty. It is the systematic imperialist and class exploitation and oppression of the Filipino people.Their proposal as amnesty for the revolutionaries, the military rebels,  is so blatantly fake and cannot reverse the trend of instability and turmoil. This proposal requires the amnesty beneficiaries to admit guilt and undergo a process of registration and humiliation. This proposal is engaged in a psywar campaign to disarm and mislead the opposition to the Arroyo regime. This proposal is also probably intended to prepare for a proclamation by Arroyo – with the concurrence of Congress – absolving herself and her cohorts of their crimes against the Filipino people.
 And my message to my fellow Filipino people is that... its only you, the Filipino people, can liberate yourselves by waging various forms of revolutionary struggle and doing away with the system of exploitation and oppression maintained by foreign monopoly capitalism, domestic feudalism and bureaucrat capitalism. Consequently, you can build a new Philippines that is truly and completely independent, democratic, socially just, prosperous and peaceful.



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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2007, 12:00:37 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2007, 02:51:23 AM »
who needs forgiveness?

(i was at that peace and security assembly and it was crap. too many uniformed men. too many politicians.)

@bulak: you're speaking the ND-speak? are you?

@Happy: not UP-graduates. UP-undergrad's. They couldn't finish their studies because they've gone UG. and not just UP-studes, mind you. UB, USC, SWU, UC.

(p.s. mike: pls. include the link of the original story. and so with the original headline of the story. your post title could be misleading at times. tnx.)

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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2007, 08:51:13 PM »
ok, thanks for the info boholrepublic

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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2007, 01:39:54 AM »
No unity and not at peace summit no i did not say it wrong just renamed it we the media were to have been active participants but how do you say we participated when we were stuck in a closet out of sight and mind known in a little room called the Flamingo.
About three persons came to brief us some what on some of the agenda and plans that were to be discussed.
The security of the President was out of control and treated local media person with a total disrespect and disregard to what was actually suppose to be our coverage since it was brought up by our Governor himself in regards to the Bohol province.
I observed so many media men shaking their heads in disbelief as what was suppose to be was definetely not happening by any standards.
I also noticed that Manila media was some how recording the summit from inside then sharing the recordings with the Manila press as well.
There was one bayut guy from Manila there who was coordinating the show for the national media and he was rough on hands kind of guy with me and other members from all the other media outfits.
I know presently that at this time they are holding conferences as Sevilla about being threatend by rebels that they will attack any time now.
Some of the provinces stronger police force were relocated there this week.
The police complain that there are plenty of rebels and only less then a hand full of them?
They are basically standing by in a cave like headquarters ready for jump off at any time with what they have to fight with. So insult these guys all you want but first go thru the conditions that they endure to keep the province safe before you bad mouth them.
So the next bad mouth about police in here I am going to fly off my white lady handle!
These guys have family and loved ones to consider and who are waiting for their safe return.



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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2007, 04:23:56 PM »

I wonder if this article would ever reach the decision makers of any armed struggle in our country?  Why don't they fight ignorance by BUILDING more schools, instead of having to spend their resources on Armas ug mga Bala? ... buy more BOOKS, SHOES & UNIFORMS instead of creating havoc in the lives of people?

Kumbaga ... better and positive use of resources ba?

This kumbaga.. better and positive use of resources... should be addressed to our corrupt politicians!

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