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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 03:23:13 PM »
mao ba ni siya patron sa baclayon floor?

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 10:40:26 PM »
Wow thanks for sharing.Murag face bitaw jud ni Padre Pio ang image sa wall sa bata bata pa siya.

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 10:48:28 PM »
Amazing kaayo ang makita sa wall.  When Swakee sent this link to me, it was at the dead of night lastnight and seeing his face on the wall had kind of spooked me out.  Yes, miracles happen.  Unsa kaha ang message ni Padre Pio to us?

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 12:36:39 AM »
wa jud ko kebawo anang parte ni Padre Pio but as what Ethylene told me He's gifted & fede siya sangpiton kung naa tay sakit kay naa siyay healing power

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 03:35:35 AM »
I read the book about Padre Pio and the best thing I remember about him is his stigmata.What I like about him when he still alive according to his story is that makabalo ni siya sa imo sala(sin)kung mangumpisal ka mo remind ni siya nimo sa mga sala nga wala nimo na mention.He also remind me of Saint John Vianney the Cure' of Ars which makabasa sad kung unsa imo sala nga gi omit pagpangumpisal.Last year gi dig iya body and they found out nga his body never corrupt intact siya gihapon.

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 04:00:23 AM »
Inday Grazie,
I was writing a few lines for you per email  and also responded to a thread about dreaming of the departed friends/love ones, then I read this report, naglibawot ang akong balhibo. The message is clear,   to pray more!

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 04:11:36 AM »
Thanks a lot, Manay Tess.  Yes, we can't pray enough especially when things are beyond our comprehension, we are left with one choice which is to surrender to His will.

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 08:36:29 AM »
wow, meyn, nanglimbawot akong balhibo! Father Pio was a priest wuth stigmata pero nawala ang stigmata sa dihang ilang gi kawot ang lubong unya nakita nga wa sya ma dugta ug nawala ang stigmata. nakurat sila kay ang mga palad/koko ni Father Pio mura konog ug bag-o oang gihingok-an. He was canonized for sainthood. And he was one of my favorite saint ug grabe ni sija mo intercede sa atong mga prayers to God!

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 02:14:10 PM »
Buwadsanga,
The stigmata of Padre Pio slowly vanished as he neared death, this was the sign the monks understood that his days are numbered.  He was buried with out any trace of Christ´s wounds/stigmata.
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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 02:34:58 PM »
well i was not able to read on the vanishing stigmata. you may refer at wikipedia andun ang story din nya. for 35yrs daw wa man jud ma infect ang wound nya at saka mabango daw ang dugo but Father Pio suffers pain during these periods.

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 12:23:13 AM » 

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mao ba ni siya patron sa baclayon floor?


Immaculada Concepcion ang patrona sa Baclayon Bro.

Trivia, the first time the Padre Pio image sa publicized was also the time that a cargo ship grounded near Puntod Islet in Panglao.

You know, the boat was also named the same. 

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 03:57:24 PM »
The miracle is a hoax...it's fake.

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2009, 04:11:11 PM »
we are so blessed , bisan ug wala ta makakita sa atong ginoo but our faith ay naa lang gihapo. Message to all ´´ Repent and accept Jesus as your saviour``
Be born again in spirit , We pray na ang Bohol ay kanunay malinawon ug layo sa dautang mga butang sa kalibutan.
Kung unsa si Padre Pio sa iyang pagkatao ay ganyan din ang mga tao sa bohol di ba!

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2009, 05:45:00 PM »
God move in mysterious ways....

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2009, 02:57:47 AM »
We should be careful because even Medjugorje is not 100% approved by the Vatican.

Medjugorje 25 years later: Apparitions and contested authenticity

By John Thavis
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ROME (CNS) -- Twenty-five years after six children in Medjugorje, a village in what is now Bosnia-Herzegovina, began reporting apparitions of Mary, pilgrims are still flocking to the site and church officials are still cautious about the authenticity of the events.

Marian experts continue to debate the significance of Medjugorje, and several have published books -- ranging from enthusiastically supportive to skeptical -- to coincide with the anniversary.

In Medjugorje, Franciscan pastors are preparing for overflow crowds on June 24-25, the dates on which the alleged apparitions and messages began in 1981. They insist, however, that no special commemorations are planned.

"Everything's been booked solid for more than a year, and we're expecting thousands of pilgrims. But we're not putting on any spectacle or festival -- just the usual program of prayer," Franciscan Father Ivan Sesar, pastor of St. James Parish in Medjugorje, said in a telephone interview.

Of the six children who originally reported visions from Mary, sometimes daily, one says she still receives messages from Mary on the 25th of each month. They are published online, eagerly awaited by a large network of Christians dedicated to Medjugorje.

According to Bishop Ratko Peric of Mostar-Duvno, whose diocese includes Medjugorje, the messages now number more than 30,000, a fact that only increases his own skepticism about the authenticity of the apparitions.

Bishop Peric discussed Medjugorje with Pope Benedict XVI earlier this year during a visit to the Vatican. In a summary of the discussion published in his diocesan newspaper, Bishop Peric said he had reviewed the history of the apparitions with the pope, who already was aware of the main facts from his time as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

"The Holy Father told me: We at the congregation always asked ourselves how can any believer accept as authentic apparitions that occur every day and for so many years?" Bishop Peric said.

Bishop Peric noted that Yugoslavian bishops in 1991 issued a statement that "it cannot be confirmed that supernatural apparitions or revelations are occurring" at Medjugorje.

Bishop Peric said he told the pope that his own opinion was even stronger -- not only that a supernatural element cannot be proven, but that "it is certain that these events do not concern supernatural apparitions."

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2009, 03:16:21 AM »
A sociologist from the National University of Singapore explained that "those who believe in divine objects are mostly those who follow a simple faith which is founded in tangible evidences of the sacred". He referred to the believers who, in May 2006, flocked to the mountains of Mexico's southern Chiapas state where a rock with an image that resembles Jesus Christ was discovered.

Another sociologist pointed out that "these objects are called fetishes or 'objects that are imbued with deep symbolic significance to become sacred objects that embody gods and spirits'." In the monkey tree's case, it was because of a "natural transformation of its material appearance that reminds people of an important legend", and "this form of worship is actually basic to human religious behaviour".

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2009, 10:19:39 PM »
Are we worshipping Father Pios' image? Nope, we only try to look at it as a miracle or a holy coincidence of moss growth that greatly resembles his face. Or it remind us in our faith to God for Father Pio is a holy man.

Again dont get us God believers wrong. We are not worshiping that image.....

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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2009, 12:34:56 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2009, 12:54:51 AM »
Who are we to question what can be done by OUR LORD OUR GOD?

He who can do anything, and whose justice and plans cannot be thwarted?

We who doubt repent in dust and ashes.

For In The LORD OUR GOD, ANYTHING is POSSIBLE.

Lest we should boast in our questionings.



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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2009, 12:55:40 AM »
Please read JOB 38, 39, 40, 41, 42.



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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2009, 02:24:06 AM »
Perceptions of religious imagery in natural phenomena are sightings of images with religious themes, especially the faces of religious figures, in ordinary phenomena. Many instances that are reported involve images of Jesus or other Christian figures seen in food, but it has an equivalent in the Muslim world where structures in food and other natural objects are perceived as religious text in Arabic, particularly the word Allah or verses from the Qur'an. Many religious believers view them as real depictions of miraculous origin; the predominant scientific view is that such perceptions are examples of pareidolia.

The original phenomena of this type were acheropites; images of major Christian icons such as Jesus and the Virgin Mary which were believed to have been created by supernatural means. The word acheropite comes from the Greek ảχειροποίητος, meaning "not created by human hands", and the term was first applied to the Turin Shroud and the Veil of Veronica. Later, the term came to apply more generally to simulacra of a religious or spiritual nature occuring in natural phenomena, particularly those seen by believers as being of miraculous origin.

Pareidolia

Pareidolia characterizes such imagery as a form of pareidolia. This is a false perception of imagery due to what is theorized as the human mind's over-sensitivity to perceiving patterns, particularly the pattern of a human face, in otherwise random phenomena.

It is suggested that a tendency of religious imagery in Islam to be perceived as Arabic words is made more likely by the general simplicity of letter forms in the Arabic alphabet (especially in the everyday Riq'a); a tradition of massive typographical flexibility in Islamic calligraphy; and the particular shape of the word Allah (الله). These factors make the word easy to read into many structures with parallel lines or lobes on a common base.[citation needed

C. S. Lewis

The author C. S. Lewis wrote about the implications of perception of religious imagery in questionable circumstances on issues of religious belief and faith. He argued that people's ready ability to perceive human-like forms around them reflects a religious reality that human existence is immersed in a world containing such beings. The principal reason he believed in religion was because he believed himself as wired to believe it, just as he believed human beings are wired to perceive inference (if..then) and other mental logical phenomena as representing truths about the external world that can be learned from, rather than representing purely internal phenomena to be characterized as error. He chose to believe in his wiring for religious perception in the same way and for the same reasons that he chose to believe in his wiring for logic, choosing to use and rely on both as guides to learning about the world rather than regarding them as purely random in origin and discarding them. People continue to have faith in the phenomenon of logic despite the fact that they sometimes make demonstrably mistaken inferences.

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Re: Padre Pio image in Baclayon
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2009, 02:29:19 AM »
I believe in miracles myself.  True or not, if it has strengthened my faith I would embrace such belief.  It is just moot and academic to understand why we react to such kinds of phenomena.
The catholic church for all that matters investigates first because they declare such as a miracle.  Some miracles are even disproven later through continued investigation.  The Roman Catholic church understands this phenomena.  That is why it normally takes time before a certain phenomena is declared a miracle.

I mean no offense.  I am a believer too.

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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2009, 02:36:49 AM »
I am reminded of the movie of Nora Aunor "Himala" with the popular lines, " walang himala, ang tao ang gumagawa ng himala".

I am reminded of the apparition of the Virgin Mary in Agoo in the early 90s which drew hundred of thousands of people.  The apparition was allegedly witnessed by Judiel Nieva ( please search the internet, she is more beautiful than me now) and how he/she and his/her family accumulated wealth through man made miracles.

Point of reflection.  Do we need miracles to believe God and live according to His teachings?  Jesus said to Thomas in the Bible, " Blessed are those who have not seen and believed".

I love my Christ.  He is my first love too.  He does not need to show himself to me to prove that he loves me.  I can feel that in every bite of the food that I eat, in the air that I breath and from the love of my family and the people around me.



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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2009, 08:19:22 AM »
Ayessa then youre so blessed for you believe and you have not seen it. Are we not having inconsistency here? On to believe only but with facts and evidence?
 

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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2009, 01:23:36 PM »
As what I have said and I maintain, Religion is a matter of believing without any proofs.  Please read the thread on Belief on one and true religion, then you will see.

Im not saying that I am looking for facts and evidence of the existence of God.
Nor do I say that Im blessed.  Sorry to have shocked your holiness.

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2009, 01:27:36 PM »
we are all evidence and life is a fact in the existence of God.....

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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2009, 09:49:33 PM »
kung giunsa man gani pag-tan-aw sa mga tawo
kining nigawas nga "hulagway" sa Baclayon Church
"subjective" ra gyud na...
ug dili ka maka-basol kung mao nay gibati ug
sanong sa tawo bahi ani kay iya man nang katungod.
makahimo tingali ta pagpagpasabot unsa ang mga pagpakahulugan
luyo niining matang sa hitabo -- scientific; pwede pod ta makapalawom
sa kahulugan aning hitaboa -- spiritual; pwede pod ta makasapi
-- economic; ug uban pa. human anang tanan, iya-iya gyud ang
paagi sa pagsabot ug pagdawat niini. dili ta kapugos; di pod ta
makapugong. ang mga naas autoridad ug mga eksperto igo lang gyud
makahatag sa ilang pagpasabot, pagpahimangno ug pagrespeto.
hinaut lang ta dili kini abusaran ug himoong laang para mapahimuslan
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2009, 11:31:34 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2009, 01:27:59 PM »
Don't believe in miracles  because it will never happen during these days. It was only up to the apostles.

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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2009, 01:59:41 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2009, 10:51:37 PM »
sages say: People Who Have FAITH Don't Need Miracles.

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