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fdaray · « **on:** February 07, 2009, 11:16:49 AM »

Mindanao Davao archbishop seeks forgiveness for married priest
02/02/2009 | 01:51 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Davao Archbishop Fernando Capalla on Monday asked his flock to forgive one of the priests in the archdiocese who had been married in the past but has since regretted his act.

Capalla issued a statement seeking "compassion and forgiveness" for Fr. Pedro Lamata, after Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte disclosed on television that he [Lamata] was a married priest.

"As the spiritual father of all the Catholics in Davao City including my friend Mayor Digong and my priest Fr. Pete as well as others who might be in a similar situation, I would like to appeal for compassionate reconciliation, that is, to forgive and to receive forgiveness," Capalla's statement read.

Excerpts of the statement were posted on the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines website.

Capalla issued the statement after Duterte said on his television program last weekend that Lamata, now the parish priest of St. Mary's Church in Buhangin district, was married.

The archbishop said Lamata had contracted civil marriage with a woman as a young priest, but has long repented for what he had done.

He said a priest contracting marriage is a serious violation against the Code of Canon Law that merits automatic suspension from the ministry.

Capalla said Lamata had already been suspended from his priestly ministry because of what he did, but has since repented and restored to priestly ministry.

"Since that time until today, like a wounded healer Fr. Pedro Lamata has been a dedicated and energetic priest and pastor, well-loved and respected by many people especially his parishioners and friends, even from among the Muslims and Protestants," Capalla said.

Capalla learned of Lamata's case when he succeeded Archbishop Antonio Mabutas as the Davao archbishop.

He stressed that forgiveness is "being recommended not immediately but when both are predisposed for this Christian act."

"Forgiveness is given and received not to deny the Church's moral teachingsâ€”which must be preached boldlyâ€”but to admit the possible misinterpretation and misinformation that followed certain public utterances," he added. - GMANews

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2009, 11:21:13 AM »

I pray for Fr. Lamata. That he will continue in his ministry to the flock.

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fdaray · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2009, 11:32:18 AM »

Super Balita, local newpaper in Davao City ,Feb. 4, 2009 revealed that the marriage of
Fr. Pete Lamata parish priest of St. Marys Parish of Buhangin , Davao City was solemnized
in Dauis Bohol on May 11, 1982.

Kinsa kaha ang pari niadtong panahona.? Apil pod siya ug kasala. Walaon na lang
ang balaod sa celibacy ug tugotan nga magminyo ang pari, kay sa magtago-tago.

The truth will always prevail.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2009, 11:39:39 AM »

Ngano mo judge man ta? Dili man na atong issue. There are so many problems happening in the Philippines. Wives being beaten by abusive husbands; starving children in the streets, Muslims hacking down Christian villagers in Basilan, in southern Mindanao etc.

Yet it is a big deal when one man who is a minister of CHRIST makes a mistake.

Seriously, I commend Fr. Limata for coming out and asking for forgiveness and it is my duty to forgive him. That the Holy Spirit will guide him in his actions and his decisions for the benefit of his family and at the same time to maintain his faith and his support by the flock.

The LORD grant him peace, and forgiveness.
And in sincerity that his prayers are answered according to the Will of the Most High.

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simplylee · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2009, 12:08:13 PM »

nganong makasala man ang pari kun magminyo mas makasala tingali kun sige" " unya wala maminyo.
unsa may gusto diay sige lang fornication/adultery?

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2009, 08:04:28 PM »

Romans 3:23
For all fall short from the Glory of God.

This shouldn't even be an issue, as we all are weak in that aspect. But by the Grace of The Lord we are able to rise from our own sinful nature. We Are By His Grace.

My prayers for Fr. Lamata.

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Ginger · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:10:11 AM »

Ngano mo judge man ta? Dili man na atong issue. There are so many problems happening in the Philippines. Wives being beaten by abusive husbands; starving children in the streets, Muslims hacking down Christian villagers in Basilan, in southern Mindanao etc.

Yet it is a big deal when one man who is a minister of CHRIST makes a mistake.

Seriously, I commend Fr. Limata for coming out and asking for forgiveness and it is my duty to forgive him. That the Holy Spirit will guide him in his actions and his decisions for the benefit of his family and at the same time to maintain his faith and his support by the flock.

The LORD grant him peace, and forgiveness.
And in sincerity that his prayers are answered according to the Will of the Most High.

AMEN, Amen.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:14:52 AM »

Super Balita, local newpaper in Davao City ,Feb. 4, 2009 revealed that the marriage of
Fr. Pete Lamata parish priest of St. Marys Parish of Buhangin , Davao City was solemnized
in Dauis Bohol on May 11, 1982.

Kinsa kaha ang pari niadtong panahona.? Apil pod siya ug kasala. Walaon na lang
ang balaod sa celibacy ug tugotan nga magminyo ang pari, kay sa magtago-tago.

The truth will always prevail.

nganong maapil man ang pari atong kasal ni Lamata nga Civil Marriage man to, di man to sa Simbahan? it was just said that the marriage took ("solemnized") place in Dauis. in the first place, he can't marry in the Church bec. of his ordained status.

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fdaray · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2009, 02:44:22 PM »

Kon pasayloon sa obispo ang pari nga magminyo, daghan tingali nga moawat.
Maayo magkabit-kabit na lang. Mas maayo, tugotan na lang nga magminyo.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2009, 08:59:24 PM »

Kon pasayloon sa obispo ang pari nga magminyo, daghan tingali nga moawat.
Maayo magkabit-kabit na lang. Mas maayo, tugotan na lang nga magminyo.

gusto gyud tingali niyang mobalik ug mag-alagad.
maka-tugot man ang simbahan ana, pero, naa pa poy proseso agian
dili man tingali basta-basta lang pabalikon kay gusto sa pari
kining pagsaylo nga giingon, kabahin na kini sa relasyon sa pari ug sa obispo

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2009, 11:14:32 PM »

nganong maapil man ang pari atong kasal ni Lamata nga Civil Marriage man to, di man to sa Simbahan? it was just said that the marriage took ("solemnized") place in Dauis. in the first place, he can't marry in the Church bec. of his ordained status.

Kana tanan dili man na sala!

People are desined to have partners!

kinsay nag ingon nga makasala ang pari ug mag minyo?

only the catholic church???

daghang baloney diri oi!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2009, 11:39:12 PM »

"Super Balita, local newpaper in Davao City ,Feb. 4, 2009 revealed that the marriage of
Fr. Pete Lamata parish priest of St. Marys Parish of Buhangin , Davao City was solemnized in Dauis Bohol on May 11, 1982.

Kinsa kaha ang pari niadtong panahona.? Apil pod siya ug kasala. Walaon na lang
ang balaod sa celibacy ug tugotan nga magminyo ang pari, kay sa magtago-tago.

The truth will always prevail."

Kana tanan dili man na sala!

People are desined to have partners!

kinsay nag ingon nga makasala ang pari ug mag minyo?

only the catholic church???

daghang baloney diri oi!

kalma lang. lol. kini ang konteksto sa akong gisulti: ang giingon ni Fdaray - refer the above statement (sori ako na pod kang i-quote, sir) nga "Kinsa kaha ang pari niadtong panahona. Apil siya og kasala." (para nako ang hustong pulong ani, "nakalapas"). akong tubag nga di man maapil og kasala (o wa man makalapas sa balaod) ang pari sa Dauis ani (kung mao ni iya pasabot) kay ang pari nga nagpakasal wa man kasla sa simbahan tungod kay civil man tawn na. gawas pa, ang pari, gawas nga pa-hatagan og kagawasan sa Simbahan nga makasal (dispensation), wa gyud pay katungod nga magpakasal sa Simbahan kay inordinahan man siya, ug mao niy balaod karon.

sa gika-ingon nas ubang mga ni-pabati sa ilang huna-huna ani nga "thread", way maka-husga nga sila o siya nakasala. mao usab kini ang akong baruganan. dili kini atong katungod nga molabay og bato sa uban. apan, kinahanglan lang klarohon lang nato ang naglibot nga kahimtang aning maong balitaa aron malikayan ag dugang kalibog ug kadismaya. dili man tingali kini pagpanghilabot sa inyong baroganan bahin sa isyu sa "kaminyoon ug pagka-pari."

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fdaray · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:10:50 PM »

Ang nahitabo dili ba kaha, "birds of the same feathers flock together."

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TOPAC · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:38:46 PM »

Super Balita, local newpaper in Davao City ,Feb. 4, 2009 revealed that the marriage of
Fr. Pete Lamata parish priest of St. Marys Parish of Buhangin , Davao City was solemnized
in Dauis Bohol on May 11, 1982.

Kinsa kaha ang pari niadtong panahona.? Apil pod siya ug kasala. Walaon na lang
ang balaod sa celibacy ug tugotan nga magminyo ang pari, kay sa magtago-tago.

The truth will always prevail.

i don't agree with the above suggestion on allowing priests to marry.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:42:25 PM »

Kana tanan dili man na sala!

People are desined to have partners!

kinsay nag ingon nga makasala ang pari ug mag minyo?

only the catholic church???

daghang baloney diri oi!

ug kinsa may gaingun ani???

si mdb ra oi! LOL

peace mdb.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:07:43 PM »

Ang nahitabo dili ba kaha, "birds of the same feathers flock together."

what's color of the feathers? hehehe

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2009, 01:35:51 AM »

balhin nalang si siya sa aglipay church kay pwede maminyo ang mga pari didto.

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fdaray · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2009, 10:00:26 AM »

Unsay pasaylo kaha ang ihatag ni Bishop Capalla. Suspended lang baka ug pila ka tuig, o lifetime nga dili na siya makabalik sa iyang parokya.

Until this time , wala pay final say si Bishop Capalla.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:23:59 PM »

balhin nalang si siya sa aglipay church kay pwede maminyo ang mga pari didto.

gi-reinstate na man siya sa pagka-pari sa katoliko, bnc. ang iyang pagka-minyo (Civil) gi-wagtang na kay gusto na niyang mo-aktibo sa iyang ministro.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:29:51 PM »

Unsay pasaylo kaha ang ihatag ni Bishop Capalla. Suspended lang baka ug pila ka tuig, o lifetime nga dili na siya makabalik sa iyang parokya.

Until this time , wala pay final say si Bishop Capalla.

dugay ra nahuman ang iyang suspensyon, fdaray. siya na gani ang kura sa usa ka parokya karon..he's in full communion na sa Simbahan

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fdaray · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:57:12 PM »

Dili man mabulag ang kasal sa simbahan. Kon giwagtang ang civil marriage ni Pete Lamata, wala nay baroganan ang simbahang katoliko. Law maker, law breaker.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2009, 01:06:16 PM »

Naa may Annulment, sir, sa balaod sa Simbahan.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2009, 01:07:32 PM »

Civil law is a creation of man. The Catholic Church is far from being its law maker.

did the church break the law? The Catholic Church has its own rules on the matters of faith. In deciding to welcome back in its fold the priest, it does not concern itself with the civil aspect of the controversy but on what the church believes to be in the eyes of God.

ang civil wedding wa man nay blessing sa church, nganung pakasad-un pa man sya nimu sir felix?

truly,

Zosimo calle

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2009, 01:47:17 PM »

Mis Amigos,

Las razones de esta situacion se basan en las diferencias en la opinion de la gente.
Hay la gente que esta contra la Iglesia Catolica y las que mantienen la Iglesia Catolica y las ensenanzas de la Iglesia.

En vista de el Padre Lamata, el es sacerdote Catolico. Su amor de la sacerdocio es claramente realidad. Quizas, habria sido mas sabio que el proceda en Deaconeridad en vez de sacerdocio. Pero, no obstante, esa es su decision y el necesita explicarla a DIOS. Para EL DIOS. Todos seamos razonables.

Dios nos bendice todos,

Lorenzo

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gelyan · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2009, 02:29:28 PM »

kinsay nagsulti nga walay blessing ang civil wedding.. niingon ba diay ang ginoo nga dili nako hatagan ug blessing kung dili magpakasal sa simbahan.asa man na sa bible? hehehe

mubalik lang gihapon na sa Social Construction of Reality. Sociological Imagination ra na.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #25 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:25:28 PM »

akoy nagsulti gelyan, palag? hehehe peace gelyan!

kung magtake ka sa imu vows sa civil wedding mamention ba diay si Father God?

aw, kung namention sya, i think i would agree gelyan nga naa na pud na syay blessing sa kahitas-an.

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fdaray · « **Reply #26 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:26:07 PM »

Ang simbahang Katoliko pinaagi sa Bible nagtudlo nga " kon unsa ang gihiusa sa
Ginoo, dili pagbulagon sila". Kamatayon ra ang makabulag kanila. Ang atong civil
law sa Pilipinas walay devource. Dili puede wagtangon ang kasal ni Pete Lamata ni
bisan kinsa. It was solemnized in the Catholic Church.

Unsay giingon sa Bible: Matthew 19: 6 "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore, what has God joined together let not man seperate."

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wardiflex · « **Reply #27 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:46:41 PM »

ang blessing naa ra na kanunay nag sunodsunod sa mga magti-ayon,kung unsaon nila pagdala ang ilang pamilya. God is watching

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TOPAC · « **Reply #28 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:48:17 PM »

Mindanao Davao archbishop seeks forgiveness for married priest
02/02/2009 | 01:51 PM

The archbishop said Lamata had contracted civil marriage with a woman as a young priest, but has long repented for what he had done.

galibug na ko sir felix. ingun man lagi sa article nga civil ang marriage.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 11, 2009, 10:09:50 PM »

sir, felix, civil wedding gani, dili na kasal nga gihimo sa Simbahan. ang Civil, mao nay kasal sa Huwes, Mayor o laing tinugyanan sa gobyerno nga makakasal.

wa may nakiglalis kung unsay pagsabot nato kabahin sa giingon sa Bibliya. akong gipasabot nga sa Katoliko, naay Annulment, diin ang mag-tiayon human sa pila ka higayon nga way pag-uyon ug sinabtanay, ug wa na makasabot sa ilang pagpuyo, pwede mopasaka og kaso aron ipa-bugto ang ilang kasal. dugay kini nga proceso, apan naa kini.

kining kaso ni Lamata, Civil wedding ni. kay nakabalik na siya sa iyang trabaho isip pari kana tungod kay: 1) gi-annul na (tingali) iyang kasal sa Civil pinaagi sa civil court (ako ra ning pangagpas kay wa man ni idetalyi sa balita. pero, mao tingali ni kay gipabalik man). 2) duna na siya'y RIGHT (tang-tangan ang pari ani kung i-suspenso) nga maka-himo niya pagbuhat sa iyang parionong buluhaton, ug gihatagan siya niining RIGHT gikan sa iyang superior, nga mao ang Obispo. Sigon pud ni sa ahong na basahan sa internet.

sakto imong punto, calle. bright jud ka bay.

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #30 on:** February 11, 2009, 10:59:43 PM »

sa kong kasinatian diha sa simbahan sa bohol kadtong mga gikasal sa civil dili papakalawaton sa mga pari pero sa mga nahibaw-an lang ha. akong gipangutana ang usa mga membro sa Familiy Life Apostolate (FLA) didto ug nganong ing-ana. Balaod kuno sa simbahan nga kadtong mga gikasal sa huwes or civil wed couples nga mga katoliko gidid-an sa pagkalawat kay wala silay basbas sa simbahan. wala ko kahibalo ana jud nga rule until that time. so akong gipangutana kung wala diay mo kahibalo nga kasal na sa huwes, makakalawat lang gihapon. ang tubag sa akong gikastorya, gaba nalang ang ilaha kay ang ginoo naa sa langit nagtan-aw nato. naglibog na nuon ko ngano.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #31 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:19:07 AM »

Ang simbahang Katoliko pinaagi sa Bible nagtudlo nga " kon unsa ang gihiusa sa
Ginoo, dili pagbulagon sila". Kamatayon ra ang makabulag kanila. Ang atong civil
law sa Pilipinas walay devource. Dili puede wagtangon ang kasal ni Pete Lamata ni
bisan kinsa. It was solemnized in the Catholic Church.

Unsay giingon sa Bible: Matthew 19: 6 "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore, what has God joined together let not man seperate."

since this had been rebutted by glacier, i'll just reserve to myself what I think of the matter and subscribe to what glacier had said.

nindot sad ning tb glacier kay bisan ang mga bobo para nako mabright.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:27:32 AM »

way bright o way bulok aning TB, bay Calle...basta pabuhagay lang tas atong huna-huna...kung uyon sila, ok. ug dili, ok ra pod. hehe

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TOPAC · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:35:25 AM »

LOL

Kudos bay. Maajo pa siguro balik ta sa imung friend ug hapit mauyab nga taga valencia.

tug-an na lang gud. para atong pangitaon. hehehe if you want to keep it a secret, i-PM na lang.

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fdaray · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:38:50 AM »

Dunay mga requiremnts kon e annul ang civil weeding : The first is abandonment, separation for long years, grave abuses of rights and others. Sa case ni Fr. Lamata, iya ba ning na violate aron ma annul ang iyang civil weeding? Dili tingali, because he is a priest. There would be no annulment.

Ang ilang civil weeding ge solemnized sa Catholic Church sumala sa Mattew 19:6. Dili mabulag ang ilang kaminyoon. Kon duna may annulment nga nahitabo kay gipasaylo siya sa obispo, kini maoy dakong tamparos sa Catholic Church.

Mao ba diay revise teaching sa simbahan, "ang pari ge solemnized ang iyang kasal sa simbahan sa usa ka pari. Sa dihang nabulgar na ang tinuod, gipasaylo sa obispo?

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TOPAC · « **Reply #35 on:** February 12, 2009, 01:17:22 PM »

wa lagi gi-solemnize sa simbahan ang iya wedding sir. it could be that the wedding ceremony was before a judge, mayor but not the Catholic Church. Please do read the article you posted.

The Catholic Church does not recognize civil weddings. I think the Church can welcome in its fold priests that have gone astray with or without an annulment, declaration of nullity or legal separation, the three modes recognized by the Family Code in severing the marriage ties.

Likewise, kung ang tawo makasala di ba diay mapasaylo? I don't think that's what your church teaches.

Hangyo sa tanan: STOP THE ATTACKS ON OUR FAITH!!!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 12, 2009, 01:41:20 PM »

korek!

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TOPAC · « **Reply #37 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:18:25 PM »

huhuhu

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #38 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:35:44 PM »

Sir Felix,

I understand your inquisitive nature on this situation, and I find it very unbecoming when one generalizes the Roman Catholic Church on the basis of one priest and his mistake. And let that be known that it was a mistake for him to marry even if it was a civil wedding. As a prerogative of royal priesthood is total evation and total sacrifice to Chist Himself.

To be a priest is to marry into the Body, The Blood of Christ Our Lord.

Why marry? As A priest is married to God's teachings. And The Word.

Let that be known that Fr. Lamata is not sinless in that regard, he violated one of the tenents of Priesthoood. Which is total celibacy. But then again, that is his qualms and his sin that he needs to battle and ask for forgiveness from his creator and Lord. Whom he serves as his priest to his flock. It is not for us to judge when we we ourselves are guilty of a multitude of sins. Either we choose to accept it or not, we are ourselves guilty of sin and shall always be, but through the grace of God, we are saved.

As Romans 3;23 reiterates, "For All Fall Short From the Glory of God."

Again, the actions and mistakes of Fr. Lamata are his own. And is not that of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Let us pray for him, instead of attacking him.

Sincerely,
Bran Lorenzo

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fdaray · « **Reply #39 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:43:05 PM »

Sa Super Balita, Feb.4, 2008, local newspaper in Davao City revealed that it was solemnized in Dauis Church, May 11, 2009. Wala man giingon nga gikasal sa Mayor o judge. Tugotan ta nga kadto civil weeding, apan dako gihapon nga sala kay pari man siya. Asa man ang gipamunpaan nga 'celibacy"?Kay nakasala, silotan nga dili na makadala og parokya. Sama sa disbarment sa mga abogado kay grave misconduct and abuse ang sala.

Pasayloon gihapon, according to 1 John 1 :9 apan dunay silot.

I think , I have commented so much. I am apologizing if I haved said many derogatory words. I will end at this point.

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