Author Topic: History Confab A Historical Fiasco (Read 15811 times)

chicogon · « **Reply #40 on:** October 27, 2009, 04:35:23 AM »

I have a question for everyone: why man Bohol ang maangin kung dunay seminar or gathering nga mapalpak just because that particular thing is being held in Bohol? For one, Bohol as a province is not responsible for the said fiasco. Second, I've been to national conferences even here in the U.S, and there were more than one ocassion that things did go as smoothly as expected... but I've never heard anyone says "mauwawan jud tang mga taga Michigan or New York ani" just because the organizers fell short of their job/reponsibility? So, nganong mauwawan man ta just because we are from Bohol? Just wondering what kind of line of thought is this? Must be cultural (one for all, all for one thingy)... The organizers - they should be the one who should be embarrased. Shame on them, not Bohol or mga Bol-anons! Do I make sense?

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #41 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:01:52 AM »

sakto pads, nganong iangin ang tanang taga bohol sa kauwawan nga gihimo sa organizers atong confab? tungod ba kay sa bohol gi held ang event? uroy di pud to taga bohol sila nya didto lang nila gi-held aron palahi pud kay humana na ang ubang cities?

paita bitaw pud tong pagkaona. based sa description ni sir koddi, lupig pay refugee atong mga participants. kana sigurong 3k nga seminar fee if para kaon lang ug seminar kit sakto na jud siguro na nga makakita sila ug maayong caterer oi.

ibutang ta lang nga 300 ang participants multiplied by 3k pesos, malabong 900k tanan ang kwarta. tiaw mo nang kantidara pwerte na jud na dakoa igasto sa usa ka 2-day seminar. bisan sa metro center pa i-held. ako pay na-organizer aning maong event, di jud magmahay ang mga participants.

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hofelina · « **Reply #42 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:29:44 AM »

Padre, the fact is we Bol-anons are hospitable, and we treat our visitors with utmost care, sama ba sa fiesta mag paka na-a bisan pordoy na. Mao nga korat jamo kon adunay bisita nga wala ma-atiman pag-ayo. We personally identify ourself in this situation.

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Scarb · « **Reply #43 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:30:22 AM »

Bisan unsa pa ang palosot, guba na ang reputation as host.

ang makapiso or maka "awards" nija pa ani ,kadto ra mga organizers,ug tingale venue rapod ang HNU

kadto mga discontented attendees hinaut dli e- generalized and stamped Bohol as an incompetent Host

kita ra ba Pinoy usahay, we tend to use ds "daspa style - thingy" -sowe po !

nganong e apil c Juan kong c Pilatu ra ang nanghunaw sa kamot?

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chicogon · « **Reply #44 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:41:14 AM »

Padre, the fact is we Bol-anons are hospitable, and we treat our visitors with utmost care, sama ba sa fiesta mag paka na-a bisan pordoy na. Mao nga korat jamo kon adunay bisita nga wala ma-atiman pag-ayo. We personally identify ourself in this situation.

I understand. But, still, that doesn't answer my question. Di man lang Bol-anon ang hospitable (hospitality is not exclusive to Boholanos). Ang pangutana, kinsa ba jud ang ga host... kay mao toy angay managot! Dili kitang mga Bol-anon bwahehe. If I may say (ajaw laman ko ninjo tamparosa), nagpakauwaw sila sa ilang kaugalingon! Dili sa Bohol, even if you think otherwise.

Hofelina, mao siguro pod nang giingon ug "misery loves company!" Mao nang na miserable pod ta kay naangin sa buhat sa lain, hehehe.

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chicogon · « **Reply #45 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:53:23 AM »

sakto pads, nganong iangin ang tanang taga bohol sa kauwawan nga gihimo sa organizers atong confab? tungod ba kay sa bohol gi held ang event? uroy di pud to taga bohol sila nya didto lang nila gi-held aron palahi pud kay humana na ang ubang cities?

paita bitaw pud tong pagkaona. based sa description ni sir koddi, lupig pay refugee atong mga participants. kana sigurong 3k nga seminar fee if para kaon lang ug seminar kit sakto na jud siguro na nga makakita sila ug maayong caterer oi.

ibutang ta lang nga 300 ang participants multiplied by 3k pesos, malabong 900k tanan ang kwarta. tiaw mo nang kantidara pwerte na jud na dakoa igasto sa usa ka 2-day seminar. bisan sa metro center pa i-held. ako pay na-organizer aning maong event, di jud magmahay ang mga participants.

Kinsa kaha poy ge cater nila... why so unprofessional? Ni cater gani ko sa Banana Drive out of Corella, P100 per head raman gani (not P140 like it was said at the confab) and their (Banana Drive) food is extremely good (dili gyod saging!!!

), unya naa pay pataban nga servers, free drinks ug sila pay mag decorate sa lugar ug ila pajod kaugalingong lamesa, silya ug mga kitchen utensils ang gamiton.

Banana Drive Catering In Action (2008)

Cabawan House Blessing

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lavahnl · « **Reply #46 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:55:27 AM »

I understand the concern of those contributing to this topic, and the people of Bohol must always strive for perfection if they wish to become known as a leading destination for meetings and conventions, however you should not beat yourselves up because of a few disgruntled attendees.

As someone that has worked in the Convention industry in Honolulu Hawaii for more that 25 years I have run across many many people that attend conferences because they see it has a paid vacation. Often their meals and accommodations are paid for by their companies, or by the association with whom they are affiliated and if this were not the case they would not attend. It has been my experience that these are the attendee's most likely to complain about their accommodations, the food etc etc. and I question why they bothered to attend, was it for the learning experience or the "menu".

In this instance it is said that many attendees left after the first day... am I to believe that they were so "enlightened " and learned so much the first day that they did not need the second day? Sorry to sound cynical, but I question their motivation in attending this conference.

I obviously don't know all the details and don't presume to have the answers, but I think Bohol can use this as an opportunity to learn and improve.

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hofelina · « **Reply #47 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:02:15 AM »

Dear Sir,

Are you from Bohol? It seems you are not, so it is difficult for you to understand.
You posting gives a clear view on how to see the whole situation but we mostly behave like a typical Bol-anon.

truly yours,
hofelina

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chicogon · « **Reply #48 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:02:39 AM »

I understand the concern of those contributing to this topic, and the people of Bohol must always strive for perfection if they wish to become known as a leading destination for meetings and conventions, however you should not beat yourselves up because of a few disgruntled attendees.

As someone that has worked in the Convention industry in Honolulu Hawaii for more that 25 years I have run across many many people that attend conferences because they see it has a paid vacation. Often their meals and accommodations are paid for by their companies, or by the association with whom they are affiliated and if this were not the case they would not attend. It has been my experience that these are the attendee's most likely to complain about their accommodations, the food etc etc. and I question why they bothered to attend, was it for the learning experience or the "menu".

In this instance it is said that many attendees left after the first day... am I to believe that they were so "enlightened " and learned so much the first day that they did not need the second day? Sorry to sound cynical, but I question their motivation in attending this conference.

I obviously don't know all the details and don't presume to have the answers, but I think Bohol can use this as an opportunity to learn and improve.

You hit it right on the nail!

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chicogon · « **Reply #49 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:08:40 AM »

Dear Sir,

Are you from Bohol? It seems you are not, so it is difficult for you to understand.
You posting gives a clear view on how to see the whole situation but we mostly behave like a typical Bol-anon.

truly yours,
hofelina

Of course Lavahnl is from Bohol or at least has an association with Bohol, otherwise, he would have been "slinging" his good shots sa Tubag Hawaii or Tubag Germany hehehe. He's got an insider's perspective to this thread, needless to say.

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lavahnl · « **Reply #50 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:33:42 AM »

Please understand that my remarks were only my personal view, coming from someone that loves Bohol, has visited annually for the past 7 years, and hopes to relocate there in a few years. I know my experience in Hawaii may not translate directly to the situation at hand, however my intent was to encourage those involved to learn and improve, and not give up due to negative feedback.

This is a relatively new field opening up for Bohol and Bohol should not be blamed for the attendee's dis-satisfaction, however I encourage the organizers to listen to the comments and learn.

Ok I'm off my soap box, and with your permission will go back to lurking in this site

Aloha
Dale (Lavahnl)

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:53:01 AM »

For me it is a case of being accountable of what they are organizing on behalf of Bohol being the venue. Should it not affect us being a community? I don't think so. What if it turned out successful, would it not reflect a good image of Bohol, organizers aside? But since it went otherwise, would we just play safe and let them hunt the organizers' reputation?

it's all for one, one for all. it's making sense of a community for better or worse. this is the reason why it hurts our feelings when events of this nature end up this way. i could never recall any incident in Bohol, that's making headlines in our national papers or international, that didn't bring the entire Boholano sentiments to the fore, even though it took place in tagbilaran or one of the small towns of this province. the reference is always "sa Bohol" o "taga-Bohol".

this is what Bohol means to me.

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #52 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:12:21 AM »

Na basta ngan lagi ug kaon manumbra man ug makulang naa jud mo complain. Yes mostly sa among reaction we acted like typical bol-anon kay unsaon nalang ang reputation .We are known jud nga kuyaw mopakaon ug mga bisita.Gani naa toy balita sa DYHP sa una nga pista sa Balilihan usa ka bisita gidunggab kay nainsulto wala mokaon sa pikas balay nga giagda ug kaon ingbalibad unya mao to na insulto ang tagbalay nadunggaban nuon.
Back to the topic in my opinion immature kaayo pud tong mga ing attend nga teacher nga gipang uli ang gi serve nga pagkaon ug gikaon nalang gud unta to ug wala na magsaba pa nga dili gani kato gipakaon sa ilang housemaid.Kung nagkulang man ang organizer utro pong immature ang nanguli ug na-guli sa pagkaon ,ug wa mabusog di mogawas sila ug mokaon ug mahalon nga restaurant. Kan a ang pahat usa complain.Mao ni kalainan sa mga westerner nga bisan pan-os pan-os ang pagkaon gi serve mokaon gyud kay lagi gi serve unya na complain inig human pero mostly natong pinoy serbihan ug pagkaon open kaayo ta moingon nga wa ta kagusto or ipakita gyud ang dakong insulto nga ipang uli.

Sakto si Lavahnl this is an opportunity to learn and improve.

P.S Father salamat sa video ing spark jud nuon ug samot akong attention nga imong balay nindot jud venue for E.B hahhah unya ang katong nag cater sa blessing atong i hire.Siguradong wa tay complain ani.

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chicogon · « **Reply #53 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:12:55 AM »

For me it is a case of being accountable of what they are organizing on behalf of Bohol being the venue. Should it not affect us being a community? I don't think so. What if it turned out successful, would it not reflect a good image of Bohol, besides the organizers? But since it went otherwise, would we just play safe and let them hunt the organizers' reputation?

it's all for one, one for all. it's making sense of a community for better or worse. this is the reason why it hurts our feelings when events of this nature happen this way. i could never recall any incident in Bohol, that's making headlines in our national papers or international, that didn't bring the entire Boholano sentiments to the fore, even though it took place in tagbilaran or one of the small towns of this province. the reference is always "sa Bohol" o "taga-Bohol".

this is what Bohol means to me.

That's the good nature in us (the best I've known, personally), in that we take pride of being Bol-anons and Bohol - good or bad - and that's one of our best trademarks. We are truly a unique lot contrary to some who think otherwise. That's what I love about Boholanos, this unique sense of pride and this "seemingly-invisible" unity (maski pa sigeg lalis, kapunay pod ra ba hehehe). But second-to-none in overall type of race: lumad Bol-anon!

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Dot (.) · « **Reply #54 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:18:45 AM »

I have a question for everyone: why man Bohol ang maangin kung dunay seminar or gathering nga mapalpak just because that particular thing is being held in Bohol? For one, Bohol as a province is not responsible for the said fiasco. Second, I've been to national conferences even here in the U.S, and there were more than one ocassion that things did go as smoothly as expected... but I've never heard anyone says "mauwawan jud tang mga taga Michigan or New York ani" just because the organizers fell short of their job/reponsibility? So, nganong mauwawan man ta just because we are from Bohol? Just wondering what kind of line of thought is this? Must be cultural (one for all, all for one thingy)... The organizers - they should be the one who should be embarrased. Shame on them, not Bohol or mga Bol-anons! Do I make sense?

If it should make us feel better, we can think that the organizers are not really Boholanos (even if it was held in Bohol) because the convention did not go well (smile).

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chicogon · « **Reply #55 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:27:20 AM »

Na basta ngan lagi ug kaon manumbra man ug makulang naa jud mo complain. Yes mostly sa among reaction we acted like typical bol-anon kay unsaon nalang ang reputation .We are known jud nga kuyaw mopakaon ug mga bisita.Gani naa toy balita sa DYHP sa una nga pista sa Balilihan usa ka bisita gidunggab kay nainsulto wala mokaon sa pikas balay nga giagda ug kaon ingbalibad unya mao to na insulto ang tagbalay nadunggaban nuon.

Back to the topic in my opinion immature kaayo pud tong mga ing attend nga teacher nga gipang uli ang gi serve nga pagkaon ug gikaon nalang gud unta to ug wala na magsaba pa nga dili gani kato gipakaon sa ilang housemaid.Kung nagkulang man ang organizer utro pong immature ang nanguli ug na-guli sa pagkaon ,ug wa mabusog di mogawas sila ug mokaon ug mahalon nga restaurant. Kan a ang pahat usa complain.Mao ni kalainan sa mga westerner nga bisan pan-os pan-os ang pagkaon gi serve mokaon gyud kay lagi gi serve unya na complain inig human pero mostly natong pinoy serbihan ug pagkaon open kaayo ta moingon nga wa ta kagusto or ipakita gyud ang dakong insulto nga ipang uli.

Muangay sad ko aning imong observation day RAQ - there's a validity to it - pakitag hilas bah, aron ingnog kuyaw sila sa ilaha. But I hope we're wrong, but yes, there are those types I've encountered before. Many in fact! Unya mopadungog raba jud hinoon.

Naa pay laing meaning anang Westerners day RAQ: mga taga weste, as in West of Bohol like that lady from Silliman (both Negros ba, known for being you know what (sorry for stereotyping). But we all know it's a fact, too. Kasagarang Bol-anon kay hilom2x raman, unja ra complain inig uli sa bay. Mokaon na lag bahaw hehehe.

That happened to me too in the mid 80s, I solemnized the wedding of my oldest sister unja wa jud ko imbitaha kaon sa reception. Lajo raba kog giluparan, from Cabanatuan (where I was assigned), paid for my plane ticket (wa ulii), wa pajoy stipend unja didto na nuon kos pantalan nikaon with friends ug nakagasto pa hinoon samot. But nevertheless, ga Binol-anon, wa na lang motingog pero didto's MR ga sigeg bagotbot hahahaha. And after 25 years I'm beginning to understand: na nakabana diay'g tihik akong maguwang, and still, until now, I've never been invited sa ilang balay bisag kas-a. Can you believe that? Pero sa akong balay sa Cabawan, ambot ikapila na sila nako ma invite (willingly and lovingly) for pakals, since I moved there in 2006. Mao nay giingo'g C'est la vie (that's life). Life goes on... and make it happy and worthwhile!!!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #56 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:32:29 AM »

however unpalatable the attendees' comments, i still commend their sense to express their disgust. to cover it up wouldn't help the organizer's amateur performance; it wouldn't stir any wave to the pride of Boholanos in Bohol and abroad. truth to tell, though, it may not have a magnitude of catastrophic proportion, but still i could feel its shockwave moving here...somewhere deep inside.

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Dot (.) · « **Reply #57 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:34:46 AM »

Natural reaction when something went wrong or unexpected:

1. Anger, Indignation
2. Blaming, finger-pointing
3. Rationalization
5. Learning and acceptance
6. Moving on

At what stage are we now?

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:37:14 AM »

Natural reaction when something went wrong or unexpected:

1. Anger, Indignation
2. Blaming, finger-pointing
3. Rationalization
5. Learning and acceptance
6. Moving on

At what stage are we now?

too early to tell...

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chicogon · « **Reply #59 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:40:54 AM »

however unpalatable the attendees' comments, i still commend their sense to express their disgust. to cover it up wouldn't help the organizer's amateur performance; it wouldn't stir any wave of pride among Boholanos in Bohol and abroad. truth to tell, though, it may not have a magnitude of catastrophic proportion, but still i could feel its shockwave moving here...somewhere deep inside.

Tinuod. Di jud kalikayan Glace. Because that's the type we are. In fact, the first thing I did was send the thread to my brother-in-law who teaches computer at HNU last night and asked kung tinuod ba ang pang hitabo. But no reply pa. Instead we got confirmation from Koddi (unsa ni Kods, from the word, Kodigo?

Joke!). So nahitabo jud diay ni. But on the other hand, kanang tinuod jud, things like this does not affect me (personally), not because I care less, but because I truly believe no one can harm my self except myself or when when I allow others to (Stephen Covey), and I think for Bohol that way. Kadtong atong getugyanan nga moamping sa Bohol (politics and Church people), mao na silay akong gekahadlokan nga makahatag ug di maayong ngan sa atong pinanggang B... Give me a B!!!

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Dot (.) · « **Reply #60 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:42:01 AM »

too early to tell...

Yes. Better to exhaust and maximize all stages. The more we let it out, the more we can take it in later.

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chicogon · « **Reply #61 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:45:32 AM »

Sabaan uroy ko ron salig kay day off - while half of the world were asleep or are just waking up or maybe about to rest their weary heads - I got all the time. But then again, morag lami pod eadto sa sinehan kay morag lami tan-awon ning "Law Abiding Citizen." Kung madayon, mohilom na jud ko. Mor pa.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:48:18 AM »

Yes. Better to exhaust and maximize all stages. The more we let it out, the more we can take it in later.

agree, dot.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #63 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:50:03 AM »

Sabaan uroy ko ron salig kay day off - while half of the world were asleep or are just waking up or maybe about to rest their weary heads - I got all the time. But then again, morag lami pod eadto sa sinehan kay morag lami tan-awon ning "Law Abiding Citizen." Kung madayon, mohilom na jud ko. Mor pa.

nindot na pads...mor pa. i saw it.

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chicogon · « **Reply #64 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:51:30 AM »

agree, dot.

Thanks Glace! Dayon jud ning pormaha kung mao na hehehe!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:59:22 AM »

Thanks Glace! Dayon jud ning pormaha kung mao na hehehe!

para nako nalingaw ko. hehehe...akong mga katupad sa sinehan, mao niy ilang reaction..."owwww...waaaaah"

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chicogon · « **Reply #66 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:01:29 AM »

para nako nalingaw ko. hehehe...akong mga katupad sa sinehan, mao niy ilang reaction..."owwww...waaaaah"

You mean nanghilak? Owwwa man kaha? Aw, di diay. Di man diay uha2x... Hehehe.

Bitaw, sibat nako karong taud2x kay 7:30PM ang next show. Thanks again!

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #67 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:07:40 AM »

You mean nanghilak? Owwwa man kaha? Aw, di diay. Di man diay uha2x... Hehehe.

Bitaw, sibat nako karong taud2x kay 7:30PM ang next show. Thanks again!

enjoy, pads.

ari sa ko diri, manghipos pa kog balita aning FIASCO...kung di ni sila manubag, dili jud maayo ang PIASKO aning mga organizers karong december.

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pioneer · « **Reply #68 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:17:19 AM »

Based on Koddi's account, sakto tong akong giingon nga what the participants had told me were worse than what you read here.

We have to remember nga mga professionals ning mga participants. Mga lantip ug salabutan kay mga history teachers/professors/instructors. I think they deserve to be treated well.

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harv · « **Reply #69 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:26:29 AM »

Good day everyone!

the organizers of the confab is the Philippine National Historical Society and the invitation is posted here: http://pnhsi.tripod.com/id21.html ... accordingly, Mr. Marianito Luspo is the co-convener of the said confab and HNU's Lesage AV Hall was the venue... the skills laboratory located in the Freinademetz bldg which is more like of an ampitheatre was also reserved by the HNU Admin office should the need of it arise... but when it did, the organizers just opted to stay at the small Lesage AV Hall para di na daw mag transfer2x ug mga butang... HNU didnt charge daw for the venue but sad to say that HNU's participants were made to pay the registration fee at a discounted rate (50%)... gipabayad gyapon...

for the food... Mr. Luspo provided three quotations and the organizers chose the one with little or no meat (hehehe) and even specified that minantikaang saging ang i-snacks (i personally like minantikaang saging with ice-water)... these are the facts that i have gathered pa... more puhon...

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benelynne · « **Reply #70 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:55:14 AM »

It is indeed disheartening that what was meant to be an esoteric, lofty discussion of our collective heritage ends up with a fishmonger's squabble of what they and their maids have for lunch.

But let us not downplay this incident. More than anyone else in the academe, historians have been primed to expect much from this gathering, since Bohol is touted not only as a eco-cultural destination but also as a historical landmark.

We really missed this chance to play up this aspect of our island's heritage among people who would be most effective to convey their positive impressions of our island as a living museum to their students.

Imbis mag-istorya sila'g architecture sa Baclayon o Loboc, o ang pinakaunang diplomasya nga gihimo sa mga maabi-abihong tumindok nga Bol-anon sa mga gawasnon, magyawyaw na hinuon sila sa ilang gimeryenda nga ginanggang nga saging. Pastilan! Kinahanglan makiglambigit ang lokal nga DOT sa mga importanteng tigum-tigum sama niani aron dili ta mauwawan.

Having said this, we should move forward and make sure that the next confab will be a historical treat.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #71 on:** October 27, 2009, 11:07:01 AM »

Dear Dr. Harv (We don't know your gender, so we opted to be safe.):

Warm historical greetings!

I've read the aforesaid invitation which states, in part: "The objective of the conference is to look at the research and writing on the Visayas as well as other regions in the archipelago and to situate these studies in the context of national history."

On behalf of the budding local historians and language enthusiasts in TB, I say that it would be highly appreciated if you could provide us with at least the titles of the papers presented, with their corresponding authors. We will take it from there.

Best regards.

Very truly yours,
HB

P.S. Welcome to TB, Doc.

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chicogon · « **Reply #72 on:** October 27, 2009, 11:17:34 AM »

Good day everyone!

the organizers of the confab is the Philippine National Historical Society and the invitation is posted here: http://pnhsi.tripod.com/id21.html ... accordingly, Mr. Marianito Luspo is the co-convener of the said confab and HNU's Lesage AV Hall was the venue... the skills laboratory located in the Freinademetz bldg which is more like of an ampitheatre was also reserved by the HNU Admin office should the need of it arise... but when it did, the organizers just opted to stay at the small Lesage AV Hall para di na daw mag transfer2x ug mga butang... HNU didnt charge daw for the venue but sad to say that HNU's participants were made to pay the registration fee at a discounted rate (50%)... gipabayad gyapon...

for the food... Mr. Luspo provided three quotations and the organizers chose the one with little or no meat (hehehe) and even specified that minantikaang saging ang i-snacks (i personally like minantikaang saging with ice-water)... these are the facts that i have gathered pa... more puhon...

Thanks Harvs. Got your YM message. Ako unta ibutang deri imong info nga na kolekta pero pag open nako naa naman diay ka. Thank you once again. Dear fellow TBs, meet my bro-in-law... the guy I mentioned earlier hehehe.

If I may add... additional info from Harvs:

"daghan na tang galagot... about the food, the "older folks" daw ang nagpili sa mga meals and snacks and they specified nga veggies daw..."

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chicogon · « **Reply #73 on:** October 27, 2009, 11:22:05 AM »

enjoy, pads.

ari sa ko diri, manghipos pa kog balita aning FIASCO...kung di ni sila manubag, dili jud maayo ang PIASKO aning mga organizers karong december.

Glace... makalingaw diay gyod pag-ayo. I liked the movie a lot.

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ZecurB · « **Reply #74 on:** October 27, 2009, 11:49:03 AM »

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... now the smoke has started to clear. It's good that I've just kept observing the thread. I now have to make changes in the strategies in dealing with this "fiasco"...

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ZecurB · « **Reply #75 on:** October 27, 2009, 11:51:55 AM »

I'd also like to have a copy of the topics discussed, (never mind the bag where these were placed in hehehehe...)

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benelynne · « **Reply #76 on:** October 27, 2009, 12:15:22 PM »

for the food... Mr. Luspo provided three quotations and the organizers chose the one with little or no meat (hehehe) and even specified that minantikaang saging ang i-snacks (i personally like minantikaang saging with ice-water)... these are the facts that i have gathered pa... more puhon...

Gitagaan na lang unta'g mapilian ang participants kay dili man tanan vegetarian o semi-vegetarian. Kay kana sila bisag pakoonon nimo sa Bohol Bee Farm, naa gihapon kay madugog bagutbot nga gipakaon sila'g sagbot ug buwak.

Bitaw, ngano man napaingon sa sayote ug ginanggang ang hisgutan? The real meat of this confab is the historical discussion. It may have been false modesty for the delegates to opt for the spartan diet, when in fact they really expected a feast. Having perhaps heard of the fabled Boholano hospitality, whose dinner tables supposedly brim with food on special occasions like fiestas, they were simply let down by the sayote menu they surely have often from their backyard.

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MikeLigalig.com · « **Reply #77 on:** October 27, 2009, 12:23:02 PM »

Ben, they had high expectations because they paid 3,000 pesos to the organizers. One fried banana costs 5 pesos only.

Kung free pa tong conference, I don't think mo-react sila kung unsa ang gibayang sa ila and how they were treated. Plus, the fact nga "gipasagdan" sila when they arrived in Tagbilaran.

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chicogon · « **Reply #78 on:** October 27, 2009, 12:31:14 PM »

I took the liberty of putting here the content of the invitation (link courtesy of Harv) coming from the PNHS (the organizer of said confab):

PHILIPPINE NATIONAL HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC.

40 Matiwasay St., UP Village
Diliman, Quezon City, 1101
Philippines
Tel: 921-4575 â€¢
Telefax: 926-1347 â€¢
e-mail: [email protected]
PNHS Website: http://pnhsi.tripod.com

30th NATIONAL CONFERENCE ON LOCAL AND NATIONAL HISTORY
NATIONAL COMMISSION FOR CULTURE AND ARTS
COMMITTEE ON HISTORICAL RESEARCH
HOLY NAME UNIVERSITY
TAGBILARAN CITY
October 22 - 24, 2009

DEAR PNHS MEMBERS, FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES, STUDENTS OF HISTORY:

I have the honor and pleasure to invite you to the 30th National Conference on Local and National History of the Philippine National Historical Society (PNHS) to be held on October 22 - 24, 2008 at the Main AV Hall, at Holy Name University, Tagbilaran City, Bohol. The conference is co-sponsored with the National Commission for Culture and the Arts - Committee on Historical Research, Holy Name University, and the Philippine Social Science Council. The Conference theme is Towards a National History: Local History in the context of National History which has all these years been the thrust of PNHS Conferences. The objective of the conference is to look at the research and writing on the Visayas as well as other regions in the archipelago and to situate these studies in the context of national history. The conference will also identify gaps that can be addressed by future or further research and encourage systematic studies on local and national history. Papers will also be presented in related social science disciplines and in the humanities.

The registration fee for the Conference is P3,000. Participants will receive a conference kit containing a CD of the conference papers, the book of abstracts with the program, complimentary PNHS publications, and snacks and lunches for the two days of the conference proper (October 22 - 23). Breakfasts and dinners, except for sponsored dinners, will be at the expense of the participants. The registration fee will be discounted to P2,700 for lifetime members and current annual members. Please bring your PNHS membership cards. On-site registration will also be discounted to P2,700 for those who would take up PNHS membership (P500-Annual;P1,500-Lifetime). The registration fee for undergraduate is P1,500.00.

Tagbilaran City can be reached by sea or air. For travelers from Luzon, there is a direct trip by Super Ferry or Sulpicio Lines from Manila. There are two flights daily from Manila to Tagbilaran either by PAL, Cebu Paciric, or Zest Air. From points in the Visayas, one has to go to Cebu City first, for fastcraft ferries of Supercat, Oceanjet, or Weesam lines. From Mindanao, Tagbilaran City may be reached by way of Cagayan de Oro City (Misamis Oriental) via Trans-Asian or from Plaridel (Misamis Occidental); also Negros Navigation from Ozamiz (Misamis Occidental) and fastcraft from Dapitan (Zamboanga del Norte). There are also ships from Nasipit in Butuan for the port of Jagna,some 63 km. from Tagbilaran City. Please contact airlines or shipping lines for details of schedules and charges. You may also e-mail the HNU Secretariat for travel advisory. Please use this letter of invitation for the purpose of obtaining official travel authority and funding from your school or agency to attend this conference. PNHS will request for the CHED and DEP-ED Memos to allow participants to attend the conference on official time and at official expense. Note that the conference proper will take place on October 22 and 23 from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on both days. So you should plan to arrive in Tagbilaran on October 21. Pre-registration will be on October 21 between 4:00-6:00 p.m at the conference venue. On October 24 2009 (Saturday), there will be an Optional Lakbay-Aral of nearby cultural and historical sites in and around Tagbilaran City. There will be charges for transportation and meals.

For inquiries, please contact,
Bernardita R. Churchill, Ph.D.
President and National Convener
Philippine National Historical Society, Inc.
40 Matiwasay Street, UP Village
Diliman, Quezon City 1101
Tel: (02) 921-4575 Tel/Fax: (02) 926-1347
Mobile: 0918-444-4510
E-mail: [email protected]

For particulars on accommodations and other arrangements in Tagbilaran City, please contact the following co-conveners:

Marianito Jose Luspo, Ph.D. (Co-Convener)
Holy Name University
Gallares cor Lesage Streets
Tagbilaran City 6300
Tel: (038) 412-3764, loc. 134 or 412-3432; Home Tel: (038) 412-2728
Fax: 038) 412-3387 (Office)
Mobile: 0917 3044594
E-mail: [email protected]

Erlinda K. Alburo, Ph.D. (Co-Convener)
Cebuano Studies Center
University of San Carlos
P. del Rosario Street, Cebu City 6000
Tel: (032) 253-1000, loc. 183; Fax: (032)253-1000, loc. 183
Mobile: 0910 7272112
E-mail: [email protected]
We look forward to your participation.

Yours sincerely,

Bernardita R. Churchill, Ph.D.
President and National Convener

List of Hotels & Other Accommodations in Tagbilaran City
Per proximity to Holy Name University Main Blg.

1. St. Maryâ€™s Hall ** Gallares St., Infront of HNU Main Tel (038)411-2966 Dormitory type accommodation P300/per person per in a group; Air-con but communal bathroom

2. Chriscent Ville** Pension House 6 Gallares Street , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-4029 All rooms have 2 beds: Cheapest â€“ P 850.00 P 950.00 Executive â€“ P 1,150.00 Suite Room â€“ P 1,350.00

3. Charisma Lodge * 2/F E. Butalid Bldg., CPG Avenue Tel. (038) 411-3094 Single â€“ P 300.00 Double â€“ P 550.00
4. Nisa Travellerâ€™s Inn * CPG Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3731 Ordinary Single â€“ P 300.00 Ordinary Double â€“ P 400.00 Standard Double â€“ P 800.00

5. Darunday Manor **** J.A Clarin St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-2512 Queen Bed â€“ P 1,300.00 good for 2 Twin Bed â€“ P 1,200.00 good for 2

6. Slim Pension House ** #35 F.R. Ignles St. , Tagbilaran City (038) 411-4858 Single â€“ P 650.00 Single â€“ P 850.00 Good for 2 Deluxe Single â€“ P 750 Deluxe Double â€“ P 950

7. East Coast Inn ** Miguel Parras St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 501-5598 Single Standard â€“ P 600.00 Single Deluxe â€“ P 750.00 Double Deluxe â€“ P 1,200.00

8. The Meridian Hotel * 4 S. Matig-a St., Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 412-3060 Standard â€“ P 750.00 good for 2 Superior â€“ P 850.00 Deluxe â€“ P 1,050.00

9. Gie Gardens Hotel * CPG Avenue cor. M.H. del Pilar Tel. (038) 411-3182 Single â€“ P 550 Double â€“ P 750,BR>
10. Metro Centre Hotel ***** CPG North Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-2599 Standard â€“ P 1,400.00 Superior A â€“ P 1,890.00 Deluxe room â€“ P 2,250.00 Presidential Suites â€“ P 7,950.00

11. Casa Juana * Jjs Dimsum Restaurant Bldg. CPG Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3331 Old Building : Twin Bed â€“ P 550.00 Double Bed â€“ P 525.00 Single Bed â€“ P 450.00 Family Room â€“ P 700.00 good for 4 New Building: Good for 2 â€“ P 800.00 Family Room â€“ P 1,200.00 good for 4

12. Buen Bella Pension House ** Miguel Parras St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 235-6466 Single â€“ P 800.00 Twin â€“ P 950.00 Double Deluxe â€“ P 1.100.00 Executive â€“ P 1,300.00 Extra person â€“ P 800.00

13. W Regent Plaza Hotel **** CPG North Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3144 Standard single â€“ P 1,000.00 Standard Double â€“ P 1,200.00 Deluxe single â€“ P 1,300.00 Deluxe Double â€“ P 1,500.00 Suites â€“ P 1,800.00 Executive â€“ P 2,000.00 Superior â€“ P 2,500.00

14. Soledad Suites ***** J.C. Borja St. , Tagbilaran City cor. M. Parras Tel. (038) 411-3074 Business Room â€“ P 2,000.00 Superior â€“ P 2,200.00 Deluxe â€“ P 2,600.00 Premiere â€“ P 3,200.00

15. Taverâ€™s Pension House ** Remolador St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-4896 Standard single â€“ P 630.00 Standard Double â€“ P 780.00 Deluxe single â€“ P 830.00 Deluxe Double â€“ P 1,000.00 Extra Person is P 130.00

16. Via Bohol *** Graham Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 501-8363 Single â€“ P 900.00 / night Double â€“ P 1,000.00/night

17. Bohol Tropics Resort Club ***** Graham Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3510 Standard â€“ P 2,150.00 Terrace Room â€“ P 2,350.00 Ambassador Garden Suite â€“ P 2,750.00 Superior Bay View â€“ P 2,850.00 Deluxe â€“ P 3,150.00 18. Sun Avenue Pensionne **** Gallares St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 412-5601 Single â€“ P 795.00 Double â€“ P 1,150.00 Twin â€“ P 1,150.00 Family â€“ P 1,500.00 good for 3

19. Casa Rey Francis * Inting Avenue ( formerly Burgos Street ) Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3808/ 501-0578 Standard double â€“ P 700.00 Standard Twin â€“ P 850.00 Family Standard â€“ P 1,200.00 Extra person w/ mattress â€“ P 150.00

20. Bohol La Roca Hotel * Graham Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3798 Single â€“ P 785.00 Double â€“ P 885 Twin Room - 950

21. Coralandia * 45 Graham Avenue , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3426 Single â€“ P 500 - P 650.00 - P 800.00 - P 1,000.00 Double â€“ P 1,100.00 good for 4 Family â€“ P 1,200.00 good for 4

22. El Portal Inn ** Belderol Street , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-2124 Standard Single â€“ P 750.00 Standard Double â€“ P 900.00 Deluxe â€“ P 950.00 Family â€“ P 1,250.00

23. Le Pensione de San Jose ** Piano Bar and Restaurant San Jose Street , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-2572 Deluxe single â€“ P 700.0 Standard â€“ P 1,000.00 good for 2 Twin Deluxe â€“ P 1,200.00 Suite Room â€“ P 1,500.00 good for 4

24. Vest Pension House *** Tamblot St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 235-6246 Deluxe â€“ P 1,000.00 Good for 2 Twin â€“ P 1,200.00 Family â€“ P 2,000.00 good for 4 Executive â€“ P 2,400.00 Suite â€“ P 1,600.00

25. Villa Alzhun Tourist *** and Restaurant 162 V.P. Inting St. , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-3893 Single â€“ P 1,100.00 Double â€“ P 1,550.00

< 26. Dao Diamond Bed and Breakfast Dao District, Tagbilaran City **** Tel. (038) 411-5568 Standard â€“ P 975.00 Deluxe â€“ P 1,350.00 Dormitory Type â€“ P 275 Family Room â€“ P 2,500.00 good for 6

27.. Mellow Apartelle and Tourist Inn * Dampas-Binayran Road , Tagbilaran City Tel. (038) 411-2211 Single â€“ P 500.00 Double â€“ P 700.00 Good for 4 persons â€“ P 1,200.00,BR>

N.B. The asterisk represents degree of endorsement. One asterisk for least recommended , two for recommended, etc.
Rates may have changed when these data have been sent.

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harv · « **Reply #79 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:03:10 PM »

Dear Dr. Harv (We don't know your gender, so we opted to be safe.):

Warm historical greetings!

I've read the aforesaid invitation which states, in part: "The objective of the conference is to look at the research and writing on the Visayas as well as other regions in the archipelago and to situate these studies in the context of national history."

On behalf of the budding local historians and language enthusiasts in TB, I say that it would be highly appreciated if you could provide us with at least the titles of the papers presented, with their corresponding authors. We will take it from there.

Best regards.

Very truly yours,
HB

P.S. Welcome to TB, Doc.

thanks for the warm welcome... cge cge i will post the topics discussed as soon as i get my hands on those papers... aron naa sad ta ma "discuss" hehehe... im a he so harv would be nice

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