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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2008, 07:23:13 AM »
the run way in tagb is okay. it is the airport building itself that could be more moderated as well also. If you have ever used the airport at departure time here here it is so packed with people and standing room only most of the time.

The airport in Anglo has been a long time in planning.

I hope it is run efficiently once up and going, and that there will be jobs for majority of persons living on the island who want to work there and they should be the priority ones to being hired on.

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2008, 07:24:26 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2008, 05:02:00 AM »
I personally don't see any practical reason for building an airport in Panglao. It is like building a runway on top of Mount Everest and there won't be adventure at all. You got my logic? The main essence of tourism is traveling and experience different culture. If I am a tourist I would rather buy a package up to Manila and I will avail transportation locally vide Island hopping until I reach Bohol. Having direct service, i.e. from Korea to Panglao will kill the thrill of travelling.

Maybe this airport is a preparation to serve employees of the oil drilling project which is scheduled by next year and eventually an oil refinery to be built somewhere in Cabilao. - Sad.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2008, 07:20:59 AM »

I understand the logistics of it all, as well as the strategic initiative in terms of tourism. I'm a proponent of the proposed PIA.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2008, 11:38:02 AM »
The only viable reason for an airport in Panglao is as an alternate emergency landing field for Mactan. Other than the short term economic benefits for Bohol which will infuse millions, maybe billions, of pesos in the local economy, mainly to those who have positioned themselves to get a return on their investments or political influence, there are few other reasons, like safety and capacity

While Mactan itself may meet ICAO (RPVM) and IATA (CEB) regional standards, In order to meet full international standards, it needs to have a close by emergency alternate landing field capable of recovering any aircraft using it. The current Tagbilaran (ICAO - RPVT and IATA - TAG) airport does not meet the standards required to backup Mactan. The runway is too short and both the runway and flightline ramp does not have the weight capacity to handle aircraft larger than the 737 fully loaded or the A320/319 with weight restrictions.

The airport has no IFR capability needed for night time and bad weather landings and takeoffs and no way to add them. There are critical safety issues most especially for takeoffs using Runway 17 and landings using Runway 35 which could result in a major disaster for downtown Tagbilaran. Other than the passenger terminal limitations already mentioned, there is no FBO operations at the airport.

To answer other rhetorical and cynical questions, naming it Mactan II would cause major communications confusion for ATC and pilots :P. Just like the Cebu airport is referred to as Mactan not to confuse it with the former Lahug, Panglao would probably referred to as "Panglao" not to confuse it with the current Tagbilaran airport.

There would be no or very little local costs for the airport operations and maintenance itself, mainly funded by Natl Govt and airlines/users, but there would be huge and increasing costs to build and maintain the support infrastructure for the airport including roads, bridges, power, communications, water, sewage, housing, etc and the personnel qualified to do the job along with the continuing training needed to maintain currency and technology qualifications.

The municipal and provincial govts will have to come up with the funds to hire and buy and maintain equipment or contract out the support infrastructure work. Some of the initial costs may be offset by funds from the Natl Govt, but will that funding continue? There should be some economic benefits from the increase of taxable tourist revenue gained but its is questionable if it will offset the increased support infrastructure costs for the airport.

Airline travel has become IMHO a wretched affair. Many airlines, especially US domestic carriers treat you like they're doing you a favor and manage you like cattle when you fly in the economy classes. Since 9/11/01, the security restrictions have made commercial flying almost intolerable. the best way to limit your misery is to fly with as few stops to your destination. I did this in 2005, bypassing Manila by flying directly to Cebu where the hassle was much less than going thru Manila, then taking the hydrofoil to Tagbilaran.

The worse effects of the airport will be the ecological and environmental impact on Panglao, which may even effect tourism there. Unless this is very well managed and maintained, this can be a costly effect, difficult to reverse. If left to the vigilance of the local tree huggers, commercial and political entities will rule the day. Even here in the US where there are strong environmental regulations, they have been bypassed by political intrigues and commercial manipulations.

The Panglao airport looks like a done deal. The best we can hope for is that the construction and maintenance as well as the supporting infrastructure will be well managed and maintained uncorrupted by the political and commercial greed. That is a tall order here in the US let alone in the Philippines. Let's also hope that the local social culture will not be impacted with the adverse opportunities that projects like these usually attract...joey


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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2008, 06:47:30 AM »
Thanks Sgt. Joey. Very informative.

Though I still don't buy the idea of having a PIA; however, one of the positive impact it could give to Bohol is International Trading. A convenient access to export our goods to the world specially perishables like fruits. This must not be a landing alternative alone, but with Customs Office to expedite export/import.

I hope that we are exporting more than we import.

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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2008, 03:30:15 PM »
The argument of tourist moving out due to the aiport does not hold water at all...if that argument is correct then, shang ri la, plantation bay, etc....won't be enjoying the 70%++ occupancy rate right now.....in fact both hotels came in way after airport was built….....

In order to be competitive in the Global Tourism Arena, Bohol has to have a International Airport on hand w/c a lot of major tourist destination already has in there general area of Operation..............(Bali, Phuket, etc......)......why do you think phuket and bali have over a million visitors a year? just imagine 1M tourist a year spending about $100 per day for an average stay of 3 days....thats about $300M to Bohols economy per year w/c directly goes to the stakeholders sa Bohol......

It would be nice if we could just expand that airport in tagbilaran but for safety reasons, limited space, etc….di na gyud pwede……that airport alone can safely handle limited number of plane at a time………w/c really hampers the volume of tourist coming in sa bohol……the best thing for that land is to sell it to a developer or JV with a developer (Ayala, Robinson, etc…..)….a great way for other group to come in to break the “monopoly” sa few rich people in bohol…ug maka augment na sa cost sa new airport…… pero the development should be limited to Tourism, Retirement villages, BPO (call center) and their should be a limit on the height of the building and stipulate also the environment safety should be in place……etc

Majority of the foreign tourist prefers the direct flight from their destination so they can maximize their travel time….....w/c both Bali and Phuket has.......kapoy baya na ug sige balhin ug plane……… people I know (pinoy ug foreigner) na naka adto na sa Bali and phuket….one thing lang gyud ila ika sulti……Bohol is far better…..

In the short term that airport would be losing but......it would prove a good investment in the long term.....best example would be Mactan International Airport...they had to put up the first bridge for that ha.....look at where cebu is now????………..the leader back then was lambasted by a lot of people in implementing such project……pero now he has proven them wrong….that is what you call foresight……

The problem with certain infrastructures that handles volume gani (power, telecome, water, Aiprot, etc) you need to build them way before the volume is there na……kay if you wait for the volume to arrive to late na cya or worst that volume will never come….they would be suck in by other palyers (Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc…)…… That is why we need that airport built yesterday pa………….

Smart/Globe put in the infrastructure way before their volume was needed look at where they are now………if your travel a lot, you would prefer to have a phone company that has the widest coverage….w/c mean the one that has the most infrastructure invested…….

Our Power Industry waits for the volume to be there before building the power plants….where did it take us??? Power Crisis w/c led to higher power cost……

Bottom line is we badly need that airport in order for Bohol to Grow…..We just need to make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level…..

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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2008, 03:39:32 PM »
How can you make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level???


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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2008, 12:40:11 PM »

eatdanao, I must say you picked quite a lot of good points here especially comparing to Cebu. It will be a big compitition against Cebu and I don't think they will like it.

It's easy to say and imagine but when you're there it's hard to do. In other words, it's not easy as it looks.

But again, Boholanos are very courageous and  whoever plans this, better planned it darn good.

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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2008, 06:43:02 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2008, 10:14:22 AM »
The argument of tourist moving out due to the aiport does not hold water at all...if that argument is correct then, shang ri la, plantation bay, etc....won't be enjoying the 70%++ occupancy rate right now.....in fact both hotels came in way after airport was built….....

In order to be competitive in the Global Tourism Arena, Bohol has to have a International Airport on hand w/c a lot of major tourist destination already has in there general area of Operation..............(Bali, Phuket, etc......)......why do you think phuket and bali have over a million visitors a year? just imagine 1M tourist a year spending about $100 per day for an average stay of 3 days....thats about $300M to Bohols economy per year w/c directly goes to the stakeholders sa Bohol......

It would be nice if we could just expand that airport in tagbilaran but for safety reasons, limited space, etc….di na gyud pwede……that airport alone can safely handle limited number of plane at a time………w/c really hampers the volume of tourist coming in sa bohol……the best thing for that land is to sell it to a developer or JV with a developer (Ayala, Robinson, etc…..)….a great way for other group to come in to break the “monopoly” sa few rich people in bohol…ug maka augment na sa cost sa new airport…… pero the development should be limited to Tourism, Retirement villages, BPO (call center) and their should be a limit on the height of the building and stipulate also the environment safety should be in place……etc

Majority of the foreign tourist prefers the direct flight from their destination so they can maximize their travel time….....w/c both Bali and Phuket has.......kapoy baya na ug sige balhin ug plane……… people I know (pinoy ug foreigner) na naka adto na sa Bali and phuket….one thing lang gyud ila ika sulti……Bohol is far better…..

In the short term that airport would be losing but......it would prove a good investment in the long term.....best example would be Mactan International Airport...they had to put up the first bridge for that ha.....look at where cebu is now????………..the leader back then was lambasted by a lot of people in implementing such project……pero now he has proven them wrong….that is what you call foresight……

The problem with certain infrastructures that handles volume gani (power, telecome, water, Aiprot, etc) you need to build them way before the volume is there na……kay if you wait for the volume to arrive to late na cya or worst that volume will never come….they would be suck in by other palyers (Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc…)…… That is why we need that airport built yesterday pa………….

Smart/Globe put in the infrastructure way before their volume was needed look at where they are now………if your travel a lot, you would prefer to have a phone company that has the widest coverage….w/c mean the one that has the most infrastructure invested…….

Our Power Industry waits for the volume to be there before building the power plants….where did it take us??? Power Crisis w/c led to higher power cost……

Bottom line is we badly need that airport in order for Bohol to Grow…..We just need to make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level…..


eatdanao, I must say you picked quite a lot of good points here especially comparing to Cebu. It will be a big compitition against Cebu and I don't think they will like it.

It's easy to say and imagine but when you're there it's hard to do. In other words, it's not easy as it looks.

But again, Boholanos are very courageous and  whoever plans this, better planned it darn good.
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I don't see it a a cometition with cebu.....actually we complement with each other.....Cebu as a night life, shopping, Casinos, etc...and Bohol as more on the eco tourism side..country tour, adventure tour...etc...Tourist can enter Cebu then exit bohol or eneter bohol then exit cebu......


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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2008, 10:50:19 AM »
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Bottom line is we badly need that airport in order for Bohol to Grow…..We just need to make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level…..How can you make sure that the growth in the tourism industry is done in a sustainable manner and the money earned in tourism will trickle down to the grass roots level???
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good question will be how do we make sure that it is sustainable and money will trickle down to the grass roots levele..... Are we willing to toe the line?

On my part lang: i am toeing the line in my sphere of influence........i am part of a 2 man consultants (walay Bayad) that is helping Danao in setting up its Community Base Rural Tourism.....where we have determined that Adventure Tourism is best suited in that area....from caving, rappelling, river trek, kayaking, etc.......Community base meaning people in the general area are involved......Above tourism won't be sustainable if present destructive practice continues....destructive practices ranges from uling making, kaingin, poaching of animals......etc....We just can't tell these people to stop with out presenting them an alternative.....the alternative is Community Base Rural Tourism......by showing them that keeping the environment as pristine as possible is more valuable to them than destroyed..…..it is a continuous up hill battle pero we have made relative success in implementing the CBRT there……our next assignment is expand the Adventure Tourism to other barangays in the Danao…..



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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2008, 12:21:23 PM »
http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2008/03/23/PROV20080323120115.html

Now that the MIAA has been designated to operate Bohol International Airport at Panglao, how much of the money made from the PBIA operations will end up in Bohol and not go to Manila?

How much will the bosses of the MIAA up there in Manila care about the conditions there in Panglao when it comes down to the bottom line?

How much will they up there in Manila care about sustainability once their investment is recouped?

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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2008, 07:09:23 PM »
dapat walay corruption na mahimo.bantayan gyud ug maayo ba



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