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China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« on: May 10, 2012, 09:23:50 AM »
by Associated Press

An anchor on China’s state-run television network has accidentally declared the Philippines a part of China (it's not accidental, it's intentional and a prelude to invasion), in an embarrassing gaffe as tensions between the two nations run high.

He Jia, anchor for China Central Television’s (CCTV) nationally televised news broadcast, made the claim during a late Monday broadcast that has been repeatedly replayed on the Internet.

The presenter apparently meant to say that the Huangyan islands — known in the Philippines as the Scarborough Shoal (Panatag Shoal), and claimed by both nations — is China’s territory.

“We all know that the Philippines is China’s inherent territory and the Philippines belongs to Chinese sovereignty, this is an indisputable fact,” He said in the broadcast, which has since disappeared from the CCTV website but is available elsewhere on the web.

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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 09:32:36 AM »
This can never be accidental. This is insinuation, testing the waters how the world would react.

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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 09:33:44 AM »
Any kindergarten pupil knows that China and the Philippines are two different countries.

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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 09:43:20 AM »
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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 10:29:36 AM »
hidden desire (HD). part of a big conspiracy to invade the Philippines?

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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 10:32:40 AM »
Based  geology, on the formation of islands, the Philippines Islands and islets were part of the continent of Asia where China occupies a big portion.


Nabuo rin ang pilipinas ayon sa teoryang tulay na lupa. Ayon kay propesor H. Otley Beyer, may mga tulay na lupa ang na-uugnay sa pilipinas at sa mga karatig-bansa. tinatayang ito nga ay nagsimula noong panahon ng yelo may 1.8 milyong taon na ang nakalilipas.Ito ang nagsilbing daanan ng mga taong dumadating sa pilipinas mula sa mainland asia at China. ngunit ng dumating na ang panahon ng pagtunaw ng yelo, tumaas ang lebel ng tubig at natakpan o lumubog ang mga mabababaw na lupain kabilang na ang mga tulay na nagdurugtong sa pilipinas at sa mga karatig-bansa nito. Naging batayan dito ang pagkakapare-pareho ng uri ng halaman at hayop na matatagpuan sa mga karatig-lugar ng ating bansa. ang anyo ng lupa sa ilalim ng dagat na nakapalibot sa pilipinas ay natuklasang mahabang bulubundukin na nag-uugnay sa pilipinas at sa mga karatig-lugar.
may limang tulay na lupa:
1. batanes hanggang taiwan
2. palawan hanggang borneo
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4. mindanao hanggang celebes
5. mindanao hanggang new guinea


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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 10:33:50 AM »
Unsa kahay ikasulti ni Hubag Bohol aning hitaboa karon?

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 10:42:54 AM »
Kanhi ang China gitawag ug Sleeping Giant, karon mimata na. Tukbon kaha ang Pinas?

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 10:45:49 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 11:37:57 AM »
It would be shear political and military suicide for the Chinese side to initiate armed conflict with the Philippines. The Chinese are the ones biding time and trying to instigate the Philippine side to fire the first shot , as it would give the Chinese side the right to commit her naval, air, and land forces to the region. Surely, the Chinese should know better than to expect the Philippines to shoot first, as the country has always been a defensive nation. If China attacks first, it will be seen by the international community as the aggressor. Additionally, I doubt the Chinese Navy can survive if the United States Navy's 7th and 3rd Fleet comes steaming in full force. The PLAN would be sent to the bottom of the sea...

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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 11:29:26 AM »
Hmmm, moangay to si Congressman Cabangbang ani (who was the proponent of Philippines as 51st State of the Union (Statehood  Movement). Sa una medyo lami kaayo ang idea kay unuestionable No. 1 man nga Superpower ang America. Now, that the sleeping giant is wide awake and taking the whole globe by storm (financially) hmmmm, duna ba kahay intresado nga mamahimo Province of China ang Pilipinas. I know the immediate reaction is a "bloody reaction" pero tagae ninyo ug panahon nga mahinuklogan ning ideyaha, di ba naa man joy mogimaw as interested. Mark my work. It has nothing to do with patriotism or unpatriotism.  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 11:38:05 AM »
Unsa kahay ikasulti ni Hubag Bohol aning hitaboa karon?

kuryoso pod tuod ko.  pero pilay pad sa unggoy nga nanukad na to kay pareha sila ni bai tigs nga naa sa reserved force, ready to rumble kun tawgon.  posible pod to nga special agent diay nga naniid na karon ni bugsay nga tua sa tsina. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2012, 11:40:26 AM »
Now, that the sleeping giant is wide awake and taking the whole globe by storm (financially) hmmmm, duna ba kahay intresado nga mamahimo Province of China ang Pilipinas.

wa niy problema tuod sa mga chinese taipans among us, some of whose citizenships remain chinese. ;D

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2012, 11:58:03 AM »
Ako ning nakita, pero wa jod kasabot  ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUox-F3eXr0#

There was a comparison of the economic trade between the two countries; something about the importance of the Philippines understanding chinese territory. The rest, i could not get...

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2012, 12:01:37 PM »
Hmmm, moangay to si Congressman Cabangbang ani (who was the proponent of Philippines as 51st State of the Union (Statehood  Movement). Sa una medyo lami kaayo ang idea kay unuestionable No. 1 man nga Superpower ang America. Now, that the sleeping giant is wide awake and taking the whole globe by storm (financially) hmmmm, duna ba kahay intresado nga mamahimo Province of China ang Pilipinas. I know the immediate reaction is a "bloody reaction" pero tagae ninyo ug panahon nga mahinuklogan ning ideyaha, di ba naa man joy mogimaw as interested. Mark my work. It has nothing to do with patriotism or unpatriotism.  ;D

The Philippines is placed in a rather sensitive position because the country is in close proximity with a rising power. The Chinese know that the Philippines is a staunch ally of Washington and they know that if they engage the Philippines, they will be fighting the United States by proxy.

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2012, 12:37:37 PM »
kuryoso pod tuod ko.  pero pilay pad sa unggoy nga nanukad na to kay pareha sila ni bai tigs nga naa sa reserved force, ready to rumble kun tawgon.  posible pod to nga special agent diay nga naniid na karon ni bugsay nga tua sa tsina. ;D

Nagduda bitaw pod ko... special agent ang ubang TB members sa Tsina "Just In Case" We're To Attack Brigade  8)



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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 04:32:05 PM »
Kining gikabingkilan nga pulo mao ning gitawag ug "Scarborough Shoal". Kini walay tawo gapuyo ini ug mao ni gihimong "target practice bombing" sa mga merkano sa panahon nga diha pa ang military bases dinhi sa Pinas. Dool kaayo ni sa Zambales, Bataan ning [mga] islaha. Niadtong panahona wa jud moingon ang China nga amoa ang Scarborough Shoal. Wa sila mo-angkon ug wa'y gisuwat nga record nga hing-angkon sila ining islaha.

Karon mao ni ang nahitabo! Sa nahimong propesor sa UP si Jose Maria Sison iyang gi brainwashed ang iyang mga estudyante nga dautan ang pamaagi sa pamulitika sa Amerika ug komo kay kuno "itoy" man kuno ang mga Pinoy sa Amerika hing sunod kuno ta sa dautan nga pamulitika. Busa ang iyang tudlo sa mga estudyante sa panahon sa mga tuig 1960's nga kinahanglan makakat-on ang Pilipino sa panghuna-hunang pulitikanhon ni Lenin ug ni Mao Tse Tung. Tan-awa ra gud na!

Mao na ni karon nga sa hing kat-ag sa Pinas ang gitawag ug "romanticism" sa mga bata nga wa pa masakto ang ilang panghuna-huna sa pulitika ug migakos lang sila dayon sa usa ka pagtoong pulitikanhong komunista nga wa pa mamatud-i ug sakto ba kung  itandi sa demokrasya. Ang mga bata kaniadto gimaayo ug panton ang ilang huna-huna nga kita matud pa sa mga aktibista nga dili kuno nato kontra ang Tsina. Ang kontra kuno sa Tsina mao ang Amerika ug ang mga missile sa Tsina nakati-on na kuno sa Pilipinas tungod kay ang military bases nia man kuno sa Pilipinas. Mao ni gitawag ug "scare tactic" sa mga aktibista. Pareho karon ang "scare tactic" nila karon mao nang global warming.

Tuod man tungod sa maayong brainwashing nga gihimo nila mao nga nahimong isyu nga papahawa-on nato ang US bases. Ug kalingaw nato makita ang mga demonstrasyon ug rally batok sa mga Merkano. Ambot lang kung may nasayud ba kaninyo nga mo-abot sa Pilipinas ang ubang "leftist" sa tibook kalibutan para mo-uban sa rally.

Karon nga ming hawa na US bases nag pakita na karon ang Tsina sa iyang kabangis ug gusto na mangaw-kaw ug yuta nga dili iya. Ang pangutana; saa na man ang mga tawo nga gusto mopapahawa sa US Bases? Nganong dili man sila mag rally sa tugkaran sa Chines Embassy? Dili mahimo nila tungod kay ang China maoy hing tabang nila ug padala ug armas sa mga rebelde didto sa La Union sakay sa barkong M/S Karagatan.

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2012, 04:02:13 AM »
Ipatawag natong mga againts sa amirika, maoy una ug bala diha kontra sa china. Imagine if some of american staff mo visita sa Phil. mag rally dayon unya sunogon pa ang american flag and then kung my calamidad sa Pinas, the US is one of the countries who will help.

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2012, 05:27:23 AM »
Kanang ubang protesta-protesta sa mga kabataan are part of their growing pains, idealism ug uban pa. Ang uban na stuck sa movement, ang uban naangin, many lost their lives along the way, ang uban naka graduate ug ang uban ni settle down na sa kinabuhing minyo, ang uban naningpad sa halayong dapi, etc. Idealism, world views, personal views included, change as time goes by. Change is constant. Dili angay balik-balikon ug paka dak-on - many of us were once immature, too, in our decision-makings as toddlers, teenagers and young adults, hasta man gani karon dunay pa gamay'ng instability depende sa hangin/weather (look at our politicials who are supposed to be leaders of our country unsa na sila ka balimbing?!! :P). To each his/her own views... usahay parehas sa atoa, usahay dili pod. Who's to say we are right and they are wrong - and vice-versa - as long as you can depend your own? Kanang uban bitaw di kapugong sa ilang mga emotions (and ultra-opinionated) mamahimo man ganing violent ug makig sumbagay (ref: Tulfo et al  ;D). What signal does it give our children and youth? Di kasugakod ug ba-ba-ay? Sa batan-on bitaw pod ko, quick tempered man sad ko ug sumbagay dayon ang mogawas sa akong baba... karon gyeras luwa na lang tawon, bwahahaha!!! It comes with age!!! 8)



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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2012, 05:29:34 AM »
Kanang ubang naghupot ug pusil, daghan nila mosamot ug gara... labi nag maipit (LoL), perog wa ganiy da, lupig pay pisog it-it o lansijang  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2012, 09:33:25 AM »
America can never help the Philippines. The US owes tens of trillions of dollars from China.

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Re: China Now Claims the Whole Philippines as Part of China
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2012, 03:19:04 PM »
Basin ang America maoy gustong suwayan sa Tsina kung unsa gayod kadako ilang influence sa region... they're either bullying or bluffing  ???



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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2012, 03:31:50 PM »
Ang concern sa Amerika naa sa pagseguro nga magpadayon sila nga number one in the world militarily and economically. Ang Phl-US MDT usa lang sa baratohong mga instrumento aron mapatuman kining maong tinguha.

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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2012, 11:29:26 AM »
Kining gikabingkilan nga pulo mao ning gitawag ug "Scarborough Shoal". Kini walay tawo gapuyo ini ug mao ni gihimong "target practice bombing" sa mga merkano sa panahon nga diha pa ang military bases dinhi sa Pinas. Dool kaayo ni sa Zambales, Bataan ning [mga] islaha. Niadtong panahona wa jud moingon ang China nga amoa ang Scarborough Shoal. Wa sila mo-angkon ug wa'y gisuwat nga record nga hing-angkon sila ining islaha.

Karon mao ni ang nahitabo! Sa nahimong propesor sa UP si Jose Maria Sison iyang gi brainwashed ang iyang mga estudyante nga dautan ang pamaagi sa pamulitika sa Amerika ug komo kay kuno "itoy" man kuno ang mga Pinoy sa Amerika hing sunod kuno ta sa dautan nga pamulitika. Busa ang iyang tudlo sa mga estudyante sa panahon sa mga tuig 1960's nga kinahanglan makakat-on ang Pilipino sa panghuna-hunang pulitikanhon ni Lenin ug ni Mao Tse Tung. Tan-awa ra gud na!

Mao na ni karon nga sa hing kat-ag sa Pinas ang gitawag ug "romanticism" sa mga bata nga wa pa masakto ang ilang panghuna-huna sa pulitika ug migakos lang sila dayon sa usa ka pagtoong pulitikanhong komunista nga wa pa mamatud-i ug sakto ba kung  itandi sa demokrasya. Ang mga bata kaniadto gimaayo ug panton ang ilang huna-huna nga kita matud pa sa mga aktibista nga dili kuno nato kontra ang Tsina. Ang kontra kuno sa Tsina mao ang Amerika ug ang mga missile sa Tsina nakati-on na kuno sa Pilipinas tungod kay ang military bases nia man kuno sa Pilipinas. Mao ni gitawag ug "scare tactic" sa mga aktibista. Pareho karon ang "scare tactic" nila karon mao nang global warming.

Tuod man tungod sa maayong brainwashing nga gihimo nila mao nga nahimong isyu nga papahawa-on nato ang US bases. Ug kalingaw nato makita ang mga demonstrasyon ug rally batok sa mga Merkano. Ambot lang kung may nasayud ba kaninyo nga mo-abot sa Pilipinas ang ubang "leftist" sa tibook kalibutan para mo-uban sa rally.

Karon nga ming hawa na US bases nag pakita na karon ang Tsina sa iyang kabangis ug gusto na mangaw-kaw ug yuta nga dili iya. Ang pangutana; saa na man ang mga tawo nga gusto mopapahawa sa US Bases? Nganong dili man sila mag rally sa tugkaran sa Chines Embassy? Dili mahimo nila tungod kay ang China maoy hing tabang nila ug padala ug armas sa mga rebelde didto sa La Union sakay sa barkong M/S Karagatan.

Numdum mo ining hitaboa? Para ni Joma Sison mas maayo pang sakop ta sa insik kay sa mga Amerkano.

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Good points, Sir Way Nada. I would just like to reiterate that China will not fire the first shot, as it will not want to bring international arbitration into this situation, which it knows perfectly well will happen if it attacks the Philippines, considering the PH-USA MDT. Beijing knows that any war by proxy with the Philippines will be a war that will eventually invite the US Navy's powerful USN Pacific Command. At this time, China cannot sustain a conventional war with the United States Navy, especially the mobilization of 11 US Naval Carrier Battle Groups.

China's tactical and strategic policy , to its best interest right now, is to bide for time. Now is not the time for them to engage the US or any of the US' strategic allies, the Philippines is included in this fray. This will be rather interesting because the United States Armed Forces is now adopting a "Strategic Shift" to place emphasis and focus in the Asia-Pacific Region.

As far the Philippines is concerned, there will be no war with China. The two sides (The Philippine and China) should just resolve this issue diplomatically. The Philippines is 'untouchable' as it is protected by an American Nuclear Umbrella. The United States sacrificed 65,000 American boys to retake the Philippines from Imperial Japan in 1944 (tho it could have saved the men had it not retaken the Philippines and just "bypassed" it). America has a long-term interest in the Philippines, as a former-colony and also in terms of strategic interests. It will never allow a foreign power to threaten the Philippines.

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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2012, 11:33:05 AM »
Ang concern sa Amerika naa sa pagseguro nga magpadayon sila nga number one in the world militarily and economically. Ang Phl-US MDT usa lang sa baratohong mga instrumento aron mapatuman kining maong tinguha.

Absolutely correct. The United States will use this Philippines-Chinese standoff and milk it for all its money's worth. The United States will use this scenario to rebuild the tarnished Philippine-American military relationship , and by doing this, will inject itself into ASEAN state affairs as well as regionally.

The Chinese are foolish for  instigating the Philippines, by flexing their muscles, they have invited an unwanted power into the region again, The United States. With American military and economic interests in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, and Australia, the Chinese have allowed themselves to be placed in a situation where they are being contained.

The geopolitical development in the region is quite interesting.

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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2012, 11:43:12 AM »

The US Navy Pacific Commands'  USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Force travels through the Pacific Ocean with other ships assigned to Rim of the Pacific. This Super Carrier Strike Force patrols around the Philippine Waters in the Western Pacific. It will be mobilized and will steam towards the Philippines if China fires on a Philippine navy ship.

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2012, 11:51:19 AM »

US Navy's Supercarrier USS Carl Vinson steams through the Surigao Strait, 2012.


USS Carl Vinson of the US Naval Pacific Command's 7th Fleet, deep inside Philippine Waters on regular patrol.


Republic of the Philippines President Benigno Aquino III discusses operations with Commander, Carrier Strike Group One Rear Adm. Samuel Perez in the Task Force Command Center aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 17 are currently underway in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility.


Republic of the Philippines President Benigno Aquino III meets Sailors and has his photo taken in the hangar bay aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 17 are currently underway in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility.


Commander, Carrier Strike Group One Rear Adm. Samuel Perez and Republic of the Philippines President Benigno Aquino III pose for a photo with Sailors inside the hangar bay aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 17 are currently underway in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility.

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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2012, 04:12:01 PM »


Republic of the Philippines President Benigno Aquino III meets Sailors and has his photo taken in the hangar bay aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 17 are currently underway in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility.


Unsa man ni, "This one's for China?"  ;D



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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2012, 04:17:57 PM »
Mark this: di magdugay mokalit lang pod ug pamalit ug mga armas ang Pilipinas ug mga neighboring countries because of these developments. When that happens mo bahakhak napod ang America ug Tsina kay nakadaginot na pod silag laing "gyera is imperialism" business strategy in the region. Ang-ang mag Middle East ra, Afghanistan and part of Africa maoy marketing target. Why not US Allies pod like the Philippines? South Korea bitaw naa poy ilang para kulba gamay...    ;D 8)

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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2012, 06:19:01 PM »
war is truly good business.

History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. (Ronald Reagan)

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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2012, 06:20:46 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2012, 11:47:27 PM »
God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best. (Voltaire)

Correct!

In 1979, China sent in a force of over 150,000 troops to invade Vietnam because of Vietnam's toppling of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia (incidentally, the Khmer Rouge were responsible for the genocide of over 2 Million of their own people; and incidentally, the CCP of China had backed and supported the Khmer Rouge-led by Pol Pot).

Because of the strategic situation Vietnam was in in that war, Vietnam had over 150,000 regular soldiers of its army in Cambodia fighting the Khmer Rouge and propelling them to the border of Thailand. China invaded Vietnam in an attempt to force the Vietnamese out of Cambodia. Vietnam knew of this, and so, kept in reserve the 300,000 of its regular troops in the defense of Hanoi , and had activated Vietnamese paramilitary units and militia to defend the provinces of Northern Vietnam against the oncoming Chinese Army.

Crack units of the Chinese PLA were reduced to tatters, and within less than a year, over 30,000 Chinese soldiers were killed by Vietnamese militia. The losses were so high for China that China had to save face and retreat out of Vietnam and declared a "unilateral" victory stating that China had "taught" a lesson to Vietnam and the was was over.

It is quite hilarious to think that the mighty PLA was incapable of taking Vietnam and even taking Hanoi. China sent in human wave tactics to Vietnam , and sending in its best soldiers, but were halted by mere militia.

The proverbial saying holds true, its not quantity that matters, but quality. In this case, China sent in quality and quantity, but still failed in its strategic and tactical goal. China invaded Vietnam in an attempt to force Vietnam out of Cambodia and to protect the Khmer Rouge Regime. Not only did China fail to prevent the topling of the Khmer Rouge, but Vietnam still maintains a strong influence in present day Cambodia as well as in neighbouring Communist Laos. In addition, China lost over 30,000 crack units of the PLA to mere militia. In 1 year, the PLA lost 3 divisions of men.  Of course, to the detriment of Chinese strategic interest in the Mekong Region.

An example of a failed forward policy. :)

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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2012, 11:56:05 PM »
Unsa man ni, "This one's for China?"  ;D



He he he ! Most of the sailors with him in that picture are Pinoy-Americans serving in the US Navy. Kining USS Carl Vinson, Father R, it is a nuclear-powered superaircraft carrier. This massive ship has over 6,000 soldiers inside of it. It has a contingent of some 3,000 Marines, some 60-90 attack air craft, point defense missile shields, anti-submarine capability. It serves as the nucleus of the Carl Vinson Carrier Battle Group of some 30 ships. The firepower that the USS Carl Vinson has is more powerful than half of the navies of the world combined. Thank goodness, this mighty beast is a protector of the Philippines.

I can only imagine the intimidation the Chinese must feel if they ever have the unfortunate circumstance of knowing their naval ships are being targetted by the Carl Vinson Carrier Battle Group.

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