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JFM the great pretender y dont u answer those questions instead forcing chona to answer it, because u know better than her and u started those accussation , whatever they say its useless and ur not satisfied so what for then? all i know the wife is not  guilty its up 2 u if u believe it or not. peace! ;)

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I wouldnt be asking questions if i knew the answers, Durr !! Lets face it, we all know for a fact it was his wife that paid someone to shoot at him, Martin found that out while still alive, we also know for a fact she offered the money for someone to poison him and we also know for a fact it was her friends who where paid money to come up with the rape alligations. Now those questions ive not asked, cos they are questions i know the answers to. So the reason why people think the wife is behind the stabbing is mainly because of the other attempts on his life which she was behind. So its hard to believe she wasnt behind that fatal day when he was grusomly murdered. Shes not helped in any way, all she has done is blacken his name, talked as if he deserved it, lied about being friends with his family, happily moved into his house, opened his bar and got everything she wanted, which she could only get if he was dead before his marriage was annulled. Now you tell me if it was your friend and the shoe was on the other foot would you not think the same as we all do ?. Weve tried to give her the chance to answer the questions connected to the stabbing which she refuses to do and in my eyes and everyone elses it just makes her look more and more guilty. So if she is innocent i dont understand why most of those questions cant be answered, but thats up to her but until she does she will get the blame.


Lets be honest its not as if the questions are hard,not even for someone with your IQ. Babe, sorry Bebe i mean.  ::)

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no need to answer those questions u already answer it! durr! so shut up ur smelly mouth! ;)

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You gave the same answer as Chona,that ive already answered those questions, thats the same as she said . So you also say the wife is guilty , you must be saying that if you agree with what i say. Think about it. You have just said am right.

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bebe,chona,abby gei the black widow and the black witch ,you don't need to answer the questions ,and you have failed to so far,if you are innocent,you have no fear?but by giving offensive remarks instead of reasonble answers shows you are hiding your guilt,you might not have used the knife but you are still an accessary to murder with other family members and most likley be guilty,have you no ANSWER to 11 previouse questions ,I have another 8 if you are not scared to answer them ,I wonder if you dare???? without being offensive

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His will was either on him and stolen when he was murdered or in his safe which shes ransacked it within hours of his death.

They say i know all the answers, do they want me to answer the others ?

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Hi Prescilla!

First of all I want to thank you for all your efforts to keep us informed about the latest news regarding the murdered Briton.  This is detrimental for us Bol-anons since we are proud of our peaceful and friendly province.
Being a foreigner living in Germany,  it is a wise step to organize yourselves as foreigners living in Bohol.
I think it is also advisable to  determine the group’s purpose and mission so that you can plan an organizational structure to accomplish them.
This is a necessity to protect your interest and to act in solidarity in case of exigencies. Wishing you good luck and best regards.

truly yours,
Tessie Bertumen Wilms


First, they will organize,

then ask for guns... maybe....

then, if the have everything on placed,  INVASION na.

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First, they will organize,

then ask for guns... maybe....

then, if the have everything on placed,  INVASION na.
PLESE DO NOT COMMENT ON BELOW WITHOUT READING THE FULL POST AS IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN CONTEXT. TY.

Do they need guns? Personally I hate guns.
I cannot beleive that you write such jokes about a serious subject. I am sure you are aware there are Filipino organizations all over the western world. Unlike the one being formed in Bohol, these are not formed because Filipinos abroad are being legally treated as second class citizens. They are not being formed because people feel threatened for their lives.

This murder in itself is not doing a lot of harm to the Bohol economy. But the aftermath is indeed very harmful. Some Filipinos' (very few mind you) anti-foreigner comments together with the total inadaquacies of the Bohol Police is very harmful.

I hear many people openly state that the tourist police are corrupt. The whole idea of tourist police is to protect tourists. They should be beyond any type of corruption.

Having been to Bohol on many occasions, and never feeling my security theatened, I can now see how easily that could go all wrong. I was always aware (although appalled) that in the event of an accusation by a local, a foreigner has no equal rights. This is indeed a draconian law and has no place in modern society, as it is also a pro-racism law.

If the Bohol authorities do not show to be investigating this murder in a satisfactory way, Bohol is in danger of becoming blacklisted by travel agents akin to Sulu.

Will I go back to Bohol? Yes. Because I think it is one of the most beautiful places in the world.

Would I live there? No. Coming from a country where the same crimnal laws apply to all citizens no mater what their colour or creed.

Pat

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Very well said Patman.

Thank you for the ongoing  support of the Expat goup here in Bohol. I hear often they are having interesting discussions on how to enjoy and love and also are learning how to feel safe and secure in Bohol.

Foreigners can also help Bohol by promoting handi crafts and what nots coming from Bohol that are good, and as well help in promoting places in which are beautiful to go and see in Bohol.

The group also has discussions on being able to have legal representaton when being a victim of crime.

All three guest speakers so far have done a very excellent job in making foreigners open up with a better respect for the island despite the slipshod POLICE SYSTEM HERE.

How would they dig it if we said the same thing about the Philippine organizations going on in other counteries i think and know for sure it would peeve them pretty bad.

But Patman your the best man!

kudos to you!
God Bless!

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PLESE DO NOT COMMENT ON BELOW WITHOUT READING THE FULL POST AS IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN CONTEXT. TY.

Do they need guns? Personally I hate guns.
I cannot beleive that you write such jokes about a serious subject. I am sure you are aware there are Filipino organizations all over the western world. Unlike the one being formed in Bohol, these are not formed because Filipinos abroad are being legally treated as second class citizens. They are not being formed because people feel threatened for their lives.

This murder in itself is not doing a lot of harm to the Bohol economy. But the aftermath is indeed very harmful. Some Filipinos' (very few mind you) anti-foreigner comments together with the total inadaquacies of the Bohol Police is very harmful.

I hear many people openly state that the tourist police are corrupt. The whole idea of tourist police is to protect tourists. They should be beyond any type of corruption.

Having been to Bohol on many occasions, and never feeling my security theatened, I can now see how easily that could go all wrong. I was always aware (although appalled) that in the event of an accusation by a local, a foreigner has no equal rights. This is indeed a draconian law and has no place in modern society, as it is also a pro-racism law.

If the Bohol authorities do not show to be investigating this murder in a satisfactory way, Bohol is in danger of becoming blacklisted by travel agents akin to Sulu.

Will I go back to Bohol? Yes. Because I think it is one of the most beautiful places in the world.

Would I live there? No. Coming from a country where the same crimnal laws apply to all citizens no mater what their colour or creed.

Pat


anywhere in the world,   nobody, nobody will protect us unless we ourselves are vigilant for our own safety.  here, or in our country.........


it' is the thought that we know ourselves better than others that is why we need to do things to be kept away from any harm..

Final word,  you cant trust anybody...  ( the least we could apply on our daily life encounters )

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huh.. kapuy basa ani.. magabugno man mga tao. na puy mangbugno ra man ahat.

say, why dont we let the authorities decide about this. if any anybody wants to join the carava, they can bring the case to the court, at their own expense of course.

nangilabot na ta ug di angay hilabtan.;   comments...  we are given a chance to give comments at that ends there.  gasto mo kasingkasing?  hala pakapini ug kwarta aron maglami..

Martin's remains already laid to rest.. ug makadungo pa na siya inani ang dixcussion,   mag kondinar man kaha syag kalag.

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huh.. kapuy basa ani.. magabugno man mga tao. na puy mangbugno ra man ahat

mga high blood ni sila diri,reg. kapoy btaw usahay basahon.

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you should not have to bring your own case to court ,you would expect to have conferdance in the  authorities of the country you are visiting if anything goes wrong ,as long as you have corruption in the police ,as in this case ,it will not do the tourist trade any good

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If Martin was discovered at the hour of 6.30am to 7am.and they say the things are stolen such as wallet and moneyand ID,and he was not weraring a ring either,does the contact person have the cell phone number of MHARGEI????

Then how is it this person who informed her ,that her husband was murdered,know it was Martin????

How did they connect her to being his wife without his ID.all under an hour's timeif she is saying the things were stolen of Martin????

We ask her to post her Police afferdavit so everyone can see what the remaining items left at the crime scene?????


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Yep i would like to know that and also, she was informed at 8am on another island and arrived in Tagbilaran at 10am. Can she fly?

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If there are any Authorities reading this both in the UK & The Philippines you should be ashamed of yourselves, there are more holes in the wives stories than in a packet of polo mints and all you ever claim is that your hands are tied well untie your hands and go out there and get justice for Martins poor family who are going through hell, imagine if this was one of yours wouldn't you want justice??

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Due to the simple non-blind facts in the court and affidavits and court resolutions the false alleged rape that he had to battle with just before he was killed it did mention the police going to girls homes in Panglao in where they were trying to bribe monies of around Philippine peso Five Thousand   (PHP 5000) well would leave one to wonder just how much further are the Police involved Ur:::<????????????????????

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Anyone knows in any court of law or justice system if there is substancail enough evidence for example an acessary to the crime is also just as good that has been committed.

Now in Philippines if you want to have convict some one in the court system it is not the court or the police to file the charges it is up to the victims affected.

This is why Mharge is filing charges against gulle but lets say MORE ARE FOUND TO BE INVOLVED then she would also be the one to file the charges against them as well.

In America if no one files against persons involved with murder it is usually the job of the state, or federal officails,or even city or county to have charges filed.

That is what you call State vs John Doe or UK vs Jane Doe.

City vs Jane Doe, and so on because of the severity and the dangerous level at putting persons at risk if the private person is the one who files the charges versus the entire state, federal or city.

It would be hard for the murder victim or his co-horts to go after the state, federal or city to try and have them killed off for either knowing to much and being the one to testify and witness against any murderer or any one who is an acessary or even the MASTERMIND of the preperated crime.

In Philippines if anyone dare to go after anyone in a court of law that person who files charges takes a big fat risk of being killed off if not mamed by the one they are going up against.

I personally could never understand this philosophy of the Philippine law in that it puts innocent person at risk of being killed for being a witness in court.

Why should anyone but the law itself be the one to take persons to court depending on the severity of the crime? To avoid other murders from possibly happening?

It simply just askiing for trouble in how they do things in the Philippines. You think Chicago State would let a known murderer or alleged suspect just walk the streets because no one filed charges against him? Think again.

Maybe the States as well as other coutries should handle hard core criminals in how they handle them in the Philippines?

Why the hell bother having police when they can not do much and some are even a part of crime?

Why have a justice system if justice can not go after those on their own to convict someone who has done really wrong?

Why do people who are witnesses stay away from court cases?

Because they are open to danger from the defendant's party.

It has been done in many cases were there is no witness and the case ends up being dismissed in the Philippines and other countreis as well.

The minor law in the states or any other country is different compared to Philippines because in the states and depending on the severity of the case especailly that of murder the minor will be handled in the legal system as an adult.

Borja is also living at large in custody of her mother supposedly.

She was the one with Gulle and others that night when martin was murdered she even frequents in adult clubs here but heaven forbid spare her of severe crime.

In the states and other countreis the wife is automatically the alleged suspect untill proven otherwise.

Just saying she gets along with the inlaws is not enough and would not float another countreis innocent boat in the action of law, and further more if Martin had previous attempts of homocide in were her name was brought up as the one to hire JunRey Palinosa as the bullet hitman last Jan, 2009 and her name was also mentioned as the one who treid to to have him poisooned then it sounds like to me that the panglao police and the Tagbialran police did not coordinate the investigation together?

The police and the investigators are not very wide eyed in this particular case as there sounds like there are many holes in the English cheeze to look into according to the pip's minds in Enland?

Well lets just surmize this case as a prime example of why Philippines continues to be a third world country.

Why should I care if people get killed or hurt or can not feed they're own kids in the Philippines or any other country that is doing the same when no one cares about doing what is right to clean up the crap that happens everyday in thirs world countreis as how Philippines is.

America and other countreis may have its own problems but the people are not always straving due to the good government assistance shelters and free hotmeal programs and also the churches good services and offerings to the people.

It is called take care of your people and your counrty and throw away what are the bad ways. If everyone fought for the right justice and for better governance and services then the world would be a better place if we just keep silent are we not being an acessary to what are the things happening around us?









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wow, thats the nuttiest law ever, so basically you really can just getaway with murder. Can i ask if other people are found to be involved in the murder does she have to be the one to file the charges against them ? What am trying to say is - she just cant turn round and say no i dont want to file charges against them , say for instance she knows them.  Also just say the wife was found to be behind the murder,who then files the charges against her ? Would that be Martins family ?

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wow, thats the nuttiest law ever, so basically you really can just getaway with murder. Can i ask if other people are found to be involved in the murder does she have to be the one to file the charges against them ? What am trying to say is - she just cant turn round and say no i dont want to file charges against them , say for instance she knows them.  Also just say the wife was found to be behind the murder,who then files the charges against her ? Would that be Martins family ?

And you believe that?  FYI to those who claim to know the law but really knows nothing, I don't know much either but I took the most basic law in college. Murder is one of the many cases considered as criminal case.  When it's criminal case,  the plaintiff or the one who files charges, as you call it, is not the family of the victim but the Republic of the Philippines.  In other words, the case becomes, People of the Republic of the Philippines VS. Murderer, and not Martin's Family VS Murderer.   

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I dont claim to know the law, i only asked some questions, because i dont know. so whats the attitude for ?

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According to the Tagbilaran fiscal office anyone who has knoweldge on any case as a witness can file charges against anyone who has done a crime even as exstensive as murder.

The case has to be filed by any witness before it will be considered in court in the Philippines.

I think the fiscal office of the court should know pretty much how the system works.

I have heard it said more then once by them regarding how any any court case matter.s are How could the court file charges if they do not know the sittuation?

How can the court be the one to prosecute correctly untill they have heard all parteis involved per any case they may have.

Life is a bit more harder in the Philippines when it comes to the older system of justice which is said by Atty's that say some parts of justice are still having a slow process compared to other countreis legal systems which are more advanced.

Hello Grazie, how are things in California are the fires under control I heard you have bad fires already really into the season? Hope your far from the fire danger.

Take care!

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wow, thats the nuttiest law ever, so basically you really can just getaway with murder. Can i ask if other people are found to be involved in the murder does she have to be the one to file the charges against them ? What am trying to say is - she just cant turn round and say no i dont want to file charges against them , say for instance she knows them.  Also just say the wife was found to be behind the murder,who then files the charges against her ? Would that be Martins family ?

Anyone can file if they know the sittuation and whats going on with any crime. If your evidence is substancail enough to stands a chance in court.

When hiring an Atty. for any case he must first see and reveiw the evidence and links including any feasable angles involving the any case before he would consider first if the case stands a good chance of winning.

I am not an Atty. myself but I know from listening to persons who are in the legal feild somewhat of how the law works.

I hope I have been of some help.

Wellcome to Tubag Bohol.

Since this Topic has been posted the UK membership has been increasing daily.







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Hi girlnextdoor, Thankyou for all that information, you are doing a wonderful job.
Can you just clarify for me that if Martins family contacted an Atty & submitted all the evidence collated by Martins family & friends he/she would then read through it all & decide whether there was a case to be answered, if  the atty agreed to do so could the family charge Martins estranged wife with murder under philippino law?

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We havew Attorney's who are members in this forum may I kindly direct you to  PM  Atty. Handel Laguney.

He is also one of the provincail Atty's. in Bohol.

The best thing to really make things more clear is to ask an Atty. regarding the law system in the Philippines.

I know for any case to be prosecuted there should be substancail  amount of evidence for any case to be prosecuted.

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Regards PM Atty. Handel Laguney,

The Family & Friends of the deceased Martin Williams have extensive evidence against his estranged wife including Death Threats, text messages, emails, affidavits etc, under Philippino law if an Atty agreed that there was a case to be answered could the family of Martin file charges of conspiracy to Murder against her?

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I dont claim to know the law, i only asked some questions, because i dont know. so whats the attitude for ?

Yes' you have every right to ask anything you wish and contribute to any topic in Tubag Bohol.

Our gate keeper say's Grazie is a very nice person. I have never met her in person but when we do not see one another in the forum maybe some mis-understandings may happen.

Grazie is living in America where the tax doller's protect people, and lock up hardend criminals not like in Philippines were one must have money to file a case against some one who has done bad.

It is not up to the PNP to arrest perspons here unless they are under a bench warrant. The victims or the freinds and family of the victim are the one to file any case to be treid in a court of law if they have enough knowledge gathered by themselves or by ohers.

Even I was in shock to know this was how the system works.

I watched police show up before at metro to break up a big brawl but they did not arrest the fighting pair neither did they handcuff them.

They just counsel with them at the police station.

The two fighter's had drawn a crowd and almost busted window panes out of the window at the sundray shop and the fight went on for a long time.

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Grazie, TGND did not mean they NEVER take up the case (IE Philippines vs. Jane Doe). But often times they do not bother doing so either due to financial contraints especially if they beleive it will be a long trial fought against a defendant pleaing not guilty and with means to hire good lawyers.

If there is a defendent whose guilt is easy to prove and/or the said defendent pleads guilty, they then will no doubt persue a court conviction for that crime.

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Thankyou all into the insight on how the law is over there, it does go to show there must be a radical change to the countries legal system, to protect the citizens and foreiners alike, otherwise your going to get gangs who will think they can do as they please and believe they are above the law.

lets hope some good comes of this site and Martins awful death and laws there get changed . Maybe one of the new laws could be named after him in his memory.

Keep up the good work. x


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I believe that in any democratic country you have the rights to have a legal counsel supported with solid evidence. Laws are made to protect the interest of the general public. Philippines and England laws are made by lawmakers before the crime was committed. There are Filipinos who also die in England because of crime, vice versa a British man dies in the Philippines for this reason. We have one in common, to trust the justice system of these countries.

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I recieved the following that was sent by a concerned BOHOL person to my personal message box,and think in fairness should be printed.
EVERYDAY i HAVE BEEN  following the Blog about Martin 's murder.An average person who have no knowledge of law would also think the wife is behind the murder.I have seen similar murder case like that in forensic files.It was ALSO  happen i Philippines but the one who was murder was the american wife of American servicman .They live in Subic since the husband is navy.Then he start having an affair with their maid,it only takes a few thousand pesos and the wife was killed by the maid relatives.She was gruesomely murder also been stab many times,I have a feeling it happen the same way with Martin,Mhargei maybe have no contact with the murdererer but her relatives do all the work, All she have to do is hand them out some money.Now it's sure easy for her to tell everybody that she never know Gulle because it's her family member or whoever she contacted with to hire to murder her husband.
Let's hope the wife can't sleep at night of the awful thing she done and finally confess She can't hide a secret forever.
GOOD LUCK FOR THE FAMILY OF MARTIN AND TO HIS FREINDS IN SEEKING HIS JUSTICE

MAY GOD RETURN OUR BOHOL PROVINCE BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN (end of quote)

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It goes to show crusader that anyone reading this can also see the wife is behind his murder, as you said once before she may not have held the knife but she certainly knows about it and is an accessary to his murder. Theres far too many flaws in the whole story, even Gulles story isnt true, he was obviously one of the murderers, but he knows who the others are and he knows who the person is who was paying for Martins murder. The problem now is Gulle will fear for his own familys lives if he talks,so we will have to hope the police can come up with more evidence to convict others aswel.

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I recieved the following that was sent by a concerned BOHOL person to my personal message box,and think in fairness should be printed.
EVERYDAY i HAVE BEEN  following the Blog about Martin 's murder.An average person who have no knowledge of law would also think the wife is behind the murder.I have seen similar murder case like that in forensic files.It was ALSO  happen i Philippines but the one who was murder was the american wife of American servicman .They live in Subic since the husband is navy.Then he start having an affair with their maid,it only takes a few thousand pesos and the wife was killed by the maid relatives.She was gruesomely murder also been stab many times,I have a feeling it happen the same way with Martin,Mhargei maybe have no contact with the murdererer but her relatives do all the work, All she have to do is hand them out some money.Now it's sure easy for her to tell everybody that she never know Gulle because it's her family member or whoever she contacted with to hire to murder her husband.
Let's hope the wife can't sleep at night of the awful thing she done and finally confess She can't hide a secret forever.
GOOD LUCK FOR THE FAMILY OF MARTIN AND TO HIS FREINDS IN SEEKING HIS JUSTICE

MAY GOD RETURN OUR BOHOL PROVINCE BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN (end of quote)

ma'am, i guess things like this happen everywhere huh?  scary indeed.  lastnight, i was watching a documentary in CNN.  A young mother of two boys was brutally murdered and so were the two boys. the husband was not at home at the time of the murder but he was a suspect.  drew petterson, an american who was once a cop, is in jail again for suspicion of killing his third wife while his fourth wife is missing.  they are all americans.  last month, a very young girl in tracy, california was missing for more than a week and when she was found, she was stuffed in a luggage bag.  the suspect of killing  and raping the young girl was a woman, a mother of the dead girl's best friend.  a school teacher and grand daughter of the church's pastor. they are americans. still an ongoing case is the killing of a young baby girl Caylee in Florida and her mother is the suspect.  they are americans. one time, a homeless man was torched to death by young americans.  so heartbreaking news!  and there are more weird crime cases.  so what am saying is that crime happens everywhere.  we will just have to be careful and to pray that God will always keep us safe.

i am with you in praying that mr. martin's death will be given justice soon.  and when justice comes, i hope we will accept the result.

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I have heard that the city police station in Tagbilaran has recieve a fax message from our British Embassy and they are requesting updates and any special reports being done with the case of Martin.
I also heard that the police are also spreading such words around that the British National had several girlfriends!!!
How unprofessional on the PNP side and also how biased as they did not  know Martin personally when he was alive. The only thing they are aware of are the choreographed attempts of the wife who took the women to the police station saying they were allegedly raped even after his murder.
I am so sick of this sittuation in how it is being treated since the autopsy report was out over a month from Cebu NBI and sent to British Authorities overhere one month ago .
Only if the rest of you reading this topic could know the results of his autopsy and knowing nothing has been done you too would also be mad at this point.
 If what is being said here is true about his wife being related to a police in which I heard that she had a relative working on the police force then this would sound like a beautiful case of covering up one of your own.

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Kiris of course no-one is saying there isnt crimes all over the world just as grusome if not worse. The thing is when a crime like this is not investigated properly, when evidence goes missing, storys dont add up, forensic evidence isnt dealt with in the correct manner and there is obviously police corruption and cover ups and lets not forget the other attempts on his life - And the person murdered is a friend or your family you cant help but get as passionate as we are about getting justice for them. This feeling isnt something everyone will feel in there lifetime and i hope it doesnt happen to many,i wouldnt wish it on anyone, but i can assure you if it does you can not rest until you get your justice. We all know Gulle will serve a long time behind bars but we also know there are others who should be with him, so we will fight until that day comes.

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It is very difficult if people just keep moaning and making conclusions without facts. If you have the evidence or links then why not tell the police/NBI or hire a lawyer to present it. Don't accuse the police of being corrupt and ill-trained. In the world today, what causes the credit crunch? It is due to corruption and fraud by people in the financial institution. The latest one, British Parliament members spending taxpayers money for extravagant personal expenses, such as claiming housing allowances and etc. (read in the internet). In the Philippines, I read the lifestyles of Mr. Martin in the enternet, he is typical strike anywhere guy who likes plenty of women around him. Remember, Bohol culture is not like that.
I support for justice, equal rights and oppurtunities for all the people involved, whether they are my friends or not. Thanks.

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I dont understand what you are saying there are plenty of facts most printed on this site, some not,as it wouldnt be wise to do so. Both countiries authorities are aware of facts and evidence, its just extremly difficult to get a bit of action, but we will, and there is also a lawer involved. I personally will keep moaning.

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hello  i hope u get the same result as wat happened to  to the wife of the english man that was murdered in  manila ... which a documentry was made a few years back and the husbands parents got justice and custody of there grandchildren....

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the lady in question was eveleyn bohol-davis who got 40 years in nov 2004 for the murder of her british husband ...even though she was no where near the scene of the murder but paid for her dirt work .....

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Welcome and thankyou, ive just read about Evelyn Bohol Davis, it took some years for the wife to be convicted it turned out one of the 3 murderers turned state witness. As you say  she was no where near the murder scene but she paid for the dirty work to be carried out. Lets hope Gulle will turn state witness.

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