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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2008, 02:19:01 AM »
I heard Obama hates outsourcing jobs

Of course.

President-Elect Obama, like many Democrats adhere to a protectionist policy, the prime goals of the democrat agenda include:

1. Reclaiming American Jobs
2. Refurbishing the Medical System
3. Energy Policy
4. Military and Foreign Cause

The major problem with some of the Republican tenents is the exporting of American Jobs to foreign countries.

We Americans must adhere to the concept of America First. Everything that effects America, will, by right, influence and affect the world.

This 2008 Election is manifest of that.



Congratulations President-Elect Barack Obama.
The Strongest Man in the World
The Leader of the Free World

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2008, 02:20:37 AM »
The Eagle of The American SuperPower has roared its decision.

The American People and our American Fatherland has made its choice.

Let the Super Power steer its course to greatness once again.

God Bless the USA

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2008, 02:55:03 AM »
banned na mga pinoy nurses sa USA!

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2008, 03:14:48 AM »
Not necessarily.

Because the medical profession is not outsourcing jobs. We are not sending nursing positions to the Philippines or building hospitals in the Philippines and India.

Job outsourcing is referring to the positions that are being sent abroad and based abroad. Such as the telecommunication industry, the metallurgical industry, manufacturing so on and so forth.

In regards to Nursing profession and Medical Profession, the United States is importing the foreign candidates to the United States to fill in the ranks of the American Medical System.

By that, Slackware, foreign candidates will assimilated into the American Society, and their families that will come with them. In the end, the United States gains money and resource because:
1) America will receive nurses and physicians to augment its health care
2) These new physicians and nurses will become American Citizens and or Legal Aliens which translates into:
        a) Paying Taxes for Uncle Sammy
        b) Buying homes, and real estate, and resources, which goes back to Uncle Sammy's market
        c) Professional-based

America takes the best of the best from the world. And bars those who are unqualified.

That is how American survives and stays in the top.

Economically, it is sound.

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2008, 03:28:45 AM »
so that means tanggalon na ang aramco sa saudi arabia. tanggalon na ng mga kano na nag drill ug oil sa saudi.

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2008, 03:42:05 AM »
sa kadugayan mawa ra jud ang white house...mapulihan na og black house

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2008, 03:47:27 AM »
I heard Obama hates outsourcing jobs

Democrats gud.. na mawad-an ang call center ug trabaho.. saun nalang

Swaks.. what kind of change man?  Obama didn't specify what kind of change.. bsin ba ug himo-on niyang  Communist ang america.. ahaha

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2008, 03:57:26 AM »
One good quality about Obama is that he is willing to address the current health care disparity in our country. There are over 40 million Americans that do not have health insurance or just cannot afford the cost of health insurance let alone provide bread and butter for their families.

As one who will enter into the Public Health spectrum and provide care for patients, and treat our fellow American people, I am a proponent of Obama's tenent in providing basic medical coverage to all Americans.

I believe that all Americans, be they of white collar or blue collar; be they of monetary means or not, should be entitled to the same basic medical coverage. In this day of age, the cost of just visiting a Family Physician for basic check up can run anywhere from $250 to $350; depending on the Health Insurance.

With a basic medical system; a people will be given access to primary care; especially important for our senior citizens who need check up on a weekly basis for treatment of their neuropathy and or their gangrinic foot; and or check up to see if they are suffering any infection; as they are already immunosuppressed.


I find Obama's domestic agenda rather inspiring.

America First. Then Worry about the World.

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2008, 04:06:25 AM »
One thing that I did not agree with McCain and other Republican candidates is that when they were asked about the medical coverage system and what they would do about it; they all answered that they would 'change' it by allowing Americans the right to choose our own medical care providers and allow a full capitalist system to be open for the people.

Full capitalist system?

This basically meant that they would maintain the status quo, regarding the health system.

How can one sleep at night knowing that there are 40 million American CITIZENS that go to bed at night and cannot and will not take their diabetes medication because they cannot afford it? That there are scores of Americans who have hypertensive but cannot afford to even visit a Physician because the cost of visiting a physician is equivalent to 2 or 3 days worth of work in pay?

The cost of medical care here in the United States is quite expensive; a minor orthoscopic procedure can run anywhere around $1000 to $1500 and that is just one procedure. A minor surgery such as repairing of a lacerated wound (superficial wound) can cost an individual anywhere between $5,000 to even $10,000+.

A major surgical procedure such as appendectomy, tonsillectomy, cardiac surgery, orthopedic surgery etc can run anywhere between $50,000 to even $100,000+

That in itself, is more than what many of us make in a year, let alone pay for it.

This is why health care is imperative. Basic health care should be an umbrella for all Americans.


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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2008, 04:45:09 AM »
I heard Obama hates outsourcing jobs


Kana inyong giingon nga outsourcing like call center, SISIW  ra nga nga mga jobs compared sa mga nangawala diri sa Merika. Ang gi mean sa outsource ang mga dagko nga jobs like auto making and production sa parts to manufacture autos. Other things kanang mga dagko nga eroplano like boeing, war planes etc basta dagko, mao na ilang gina pull back diri sa Merika. Example ra na sa mga dagko nga jobs. So Kiams ajaw kabalaka kay kanang call center will stay outside Merika so most likely diha ra na sa India ug Pinas...

About tax, it is an Amerikan way of living, more money-more tax. If you dont like it the door is wide open for those who dont want to pay taxes, outta Merika! PERIOD. (Ako gani nga kulorum kaajo ko sa una, nag bayad gani ko ug tax kay enjoy kaajo ko sa ilang karsada ug uban pang infrastructures diri...)

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2008, 04:47:19 AM »
Obama, hurray!

Very memorable kaayo nako rong adlawa da ;D

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2008, 07:47:42 AM »
di ba pro abortion man nas obama? is killing a fetus pro health care? patay man gani ang baby..

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2008, 08:27:41 AM »
Ang abortion diri dili lang man kay motikangkang dayun ug mabusog ipa abort. daghan man process before going into that procedure, like sa rape case which pwerteng daghanan diri, most women raped (simbako palayo ug mahitab nako) di jud gusto nga mag samkon sa bata sa nag rape nako! i have to terminate it.

Another example, akong cousin who was taking care of her very sick daughter nga naay leukemia, naburos sha but the doctor adviced her to terminate the baby kay she was very much exposed to her daughters chemo therapy and radiation procedures, and thus can harm the baby, terminate jud oi! Abort with no second thought, it was a MUST!

So kanang mga pataka ug tikangkang unya ma buros, naa ra na nila if gusto ba sila ipadayun or dili they have options, either padayun or adoption...

So everything here when it comes abortion religion doenst anymore matters...

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2008, 08:42:57 AM »
obama is a christian i think these intrgues came from white supremacist people!

lets hope and to pray to God obama as a symbol of hope and change will be guided by the Holly Spirit in his decisions that it will benifit the majority and this world will be more safer and properous to live by!

raaaak en rollll na obama!!!

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2008, 09:11:57 AM »
American people and the rest of the world are in euphoria in witnessing the engraving of another history of America. "the first black president of the US enters the white house!" I am one among those people! Heep heep, Hurrayyy!!!! Kanta na lang ko ha?

"O ba ma side.....O ba ma self
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Hmmmm...out of tune ata. Sensya ka na lang ha?

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2008, 09:15:00 AM »
o ba ma head......
o ba ma ded body....
o ba ma meh!

meh, meh! me!

o ba ma meh!

hehehe!

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2008, 10:32:41 AM »
American people and the rest of the world are in euphoria in witnessing the engraving of another history of America. "the first black president of the US enters the white house!" I am one among those people! Heep heep, Hurrayyy!!!! Kanta na lang ko ha?

"O ba ma side.....O ba ma self
That's gonna be
O ba ma side.....O ba ma self
Anymore..."

Hmmmm...out of tune ata. Sensya ka na lang ha?


wahehehehe! hahahha

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« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2008, 12:14:31 PM »
The election of Barack Obama, has resounded throughout the Halls of Washington to the four corners of these United States. And even abroad.

His election is a breath of fresh air, an irrigation of new blood into the United States political spheres.

The rise of President Barack Obama, is testament to the re-awakening of the United States. The Age of Pax Americana has arrived.


The Superpower has reclaimed its Golden Scepter.

God Bless the United States!

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2008, 10:31:59 PM »
For the first time since i cant remember when, that i say Amerika is the SUPERPOWER nation in the whole world...

Honest i have just ganied my confidence in our government.

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« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2008, 09:39:53 AM »
from what i read in the papers/net, i think obama's stand on abortion does not lie much on morality and ethics.  it's more for convenience of the woman than being right. and what's convenient is, more likely than not, wrong.  abortion is not about religion.. its about the moral fiber that binds the people.. the american people in this case.  in the end, the question would be more on the values of america, as a nation, as a people.

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« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2008, 11:33:25 AM »
About abortion whether Republican President win or Democrat if you ban abortion it will happen naa gyud magpaabort ug bata whether you ban it or not, it just like criminal having guns even if you ban the gun criminals got to have the gun.Daghan bitaw gipang ban mogara man nuon ang tawo ug gamit.Tan awa ban ang drugs daghan man gihapon addict.

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« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2008, 11:36:50 AM »
mi daghan ang adik gumikan kay sauna gamay ra man to sila. pila lang tawon ka buok! hehehe!

pareho rana sa istorya nga, nganong nabasa man ka?
nabasa ko kay kanina ma man ko!

hehehe!

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Re: Barack Obama Wins: First African-American President
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2008, 11:38:10 AM »
By the way, murag nakahinumdum ko nga naa pa contest ani kung kinsa mo daug sa US President. Correct me if I'm wrong. Kinsa man ni daug sa contest?

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« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2008, 11:41:17 AM »
hala kinsa man ang naka daug basin governor ra ang naay premyo.. wala ang president.....

By the way diay pod... kinsa ang name sa pinay nga us congresswomen nga ming daug..... cograts pinoy pinay diay pod....

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« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2008, 12:04:00 PM »
raquel: mao kinahanglan naay government intervention para mawa.. kung pasagdan, musamot kadaghan.. murag kawgo, kung pasagdan, mura nag suso sa hunasan magtapok tapok..

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« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2008, 12:15:17 PM »
mao jud okey ra ug dilio ma ngilkil sa kwarta sa gobyerno...

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« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2008, 03:45:55 PM »
Ahak nas Obama oi, sorry lang gyud, galagot lang ko ga-huna2.

gi-pa angkan ra siya sa iyang amahan nga negro, tanang naiya sa kinabuhi, gihatag sa iyang PUTI nga inahan, ug PUTI nga Lolo ug Lola, pero sa dihang ni sikat na siya, wala na siya mo angkon pag-ayo sa iyang katunga nga pagka puti, gipalabi ang pagka itum para kunuhay humot siya sa kadaghanan nga wala nagbasa or nag research ba kunuhay sa internet. Hipokritong dako.

Hinuon, guwangers naman si McCain, pero mas ok nako nang chikstirada nga ex-military pagka president, kesa  muslim, prends sa mga terrorist ug adoy2 sauna. (www.wikipedia.com )


Isa pa, kung iyang i-tax ang mga tao nga dato2 diri, kasagaran ra ba, small business. Sus Luoy ang daghan nga mga pinoy caregivers, ma lay off intawn. Alangan man, ug modako ang gasto sa business, di mang lay-off sila. Mo gamay na ang hiring ug import, ug dili man gani mang lay-off, mo gamay mga sweldo. Unsaon nalang ang mga pamilya sa pinas nga gipa skwela kung mogamay sweldo ni Mama, Papa, Ate, Kuya nga naa diri sa US. mas ok nalang ang pay cut kesa lay off gyud..sus pait. Maau man ug mga itum ta kay pwede ta magsalig sa gubyerno, saon pinoy man ta. diri, ang mga itum ra gipalabi kung tabang sa gubyerno hisgutan. bisan unsa ka pa nga color, pinoy, puti, mexican, insik, vietnamese ug uban pa, dili ka ispisyal kung dili ka itum.

Unsaon, wala naman tay mahimo ani...kayod lang ta.

Ug gusto niya kawaton ang atong kwarta nga hinagu-an...para panghatag sa mga tapulan nga itum sa daplin2 kilid2...aw...mao nay gi-ingon nga motambok ang mga banko sa PIlipinas kay ana naman ipadala tanan savings sa mga fil-am diri, kung maau sila mag huna2.

Ok ra nako i-tax ko...pero pls lang, wala man gani ko nakatabang sa tanan nakong parente nga uyamot, ihatag ba naman akong kwarta sa mga itum nga pagkang tapulana. dili ni racist ako-a ha, pero sa tinuoray lang sa hospital, ingon akong mga ig-agaw, tanan daw baby nga born with hiv/aids, itum, halos daw tanan bata nga drug baby, kana ba abnormal ga kurog2, itum sad daw.  halos daw pud tanan itum nga nanay sa hospital, wala kabalo kinsa tatay sa ilang bata. Dili ni akong facts ha, sa mga hungihong ra intawn ning ako...pero wala man sila rason mamakak nako sa assume lang ko tinuod ni.

humble opinion lang gud ni ako ha ..no violent reactions pls. ako ako ra sad ni.

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« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2008, 03:59:43 PM »
Ging, calle here, karun pa siguro ka kadungog nako, bag-o lang ko diri sa tb.

mccain man ko pero kanang imung giingun nga si barak  muslim,  friends of terrorist and adoy2 sauna, dili daw tinoud. barack is a christian though his step father is a muslim.  isolated cases ra sad daw tong iyang association sa ayers oi.. (source: cnn)

haven't check fox's views though..

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« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2008, 10:28:38 PM »
quote author=ms da binsi link=topic=16099.msg190611#msg190611 date=1225931261]
Ang abortion diri dili lang man kay motikangkang dayun ug mabusog ipa abort. daghan man process before going into that procedure, like sa rape case which pwerteng daghanan diri, most women raped (simbako palayo ug mahitab nako) di jud gusto nga mag samkon sa bata sa nag rape nako! i have to terminate it.

Another example, akong cousin who was taking care of her very sick daughter nga naay leukemia, naburos sha but the doctor adviced her to terminate the baby kay she was very much exposed to her daughters chemo therapy and radiation procedures, and thus can harm the baby, terminate jud oi! Abort with no second thought, it was a MUST!

So kanang mga pataka ug tikangkang unya ma buros, naa ra na nila if gusto ba sila ipadayun or dili they have options, either padayun or adoption...

So everything here when it comes abortion religion doenst anymore matters...
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Ang abortion diri dili lang man kay motikangkang dayun ug mabusog ipa abort. daghan man process before going into that procedure, like sa rape case which pwerteng daghanan diri, most women raped (simbako palayo ug mahitab nako) di jud gusto nga mag samkon sa bata sa nag rape nako! i have to terminate it.

Another example, akong cousin who was taking care of her very sick daughter nga naay leukemia, naburos sha but the doctor adviced her to terminate the baby kay she was very much exposed to her daughters chemo therapy and radiation procedures, and thus can harm the baby, terminate jud oi! Abort with no second thought, it was a MUST!

So kanang mga pataka ug tikangkang unya ma buros, naa ra na nila if gusto ba sila ipadayun or dili they have options, either padayun or adoption...

So everything here when it comes abortion religion doenst anymore matters...

Having an abortion means killing someone who is already alive, because of the inconvenience of their existence.[Killing your unborn child because he maybe at risk of potential radiation exposure is exactly the same as if we killed someone  who is so expose to radiation  - if we said "Well, we don't have the money to take care of this person if something goes wrong in the next year or so, so we'd better kill him, so that we won't have to pay her hospital bills or we wont be expose to this person.
I hope you would agree that it would be monstrous to kill someone because they might get sick in the next nine months.
It's the same thing, because the unborn child is just as much a human being as you are, and as I am.
Its just too bad that there are these rotten rapists about, where do they get the nerve?
Bearing a rapist child is quite a trial I think for the women.Every conception is the will of God no matter rape or incest etc, and I know it's hard on the woman victim.What did this child ever do that it deserves to die? Killing the child is not going to un-rape the mother, nor is it going to punish the father. There is a common emotion that seems to make us think we can undo the original violence by more violence.


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« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2008, 10:46:48 PM »
Dili man nga si Obama pro abortion - pro CHOICE siya.
And kana mga outsourcing na matanggal.. tho I am working in one of them, dugai pana and dili na madali dali.. But I do agree na i impose higher tax sa ila. since luoy pud ang uban nga Americans.

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« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2008, 12:05:02 AM »
di na mo mahatagan ug dagkong increment kiams kay dagko naman ug tax sa mga outsourcing companies.

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« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2008, 12:06:07 AM »
Ahak nas Obama oi, sorry lang gyud, galagot lang ko ga-huna2.

gi-pa angkan ra siya sa iyang amahan nga negro, tanang naiya sa kinabuhi, gihatag sa iyang PUTI nga inahan, ug PUTI nga Lolo ug Lola, pero sa dihang ni sikat na siya, wala na siya mo angkon pag-ayo sa iyang katunga nga pagka puti, gipalabi ang pagka itum para kunuhay humot siya sa kadaghanan nga wala nagbasa or nag research ba kunuhay sa internet. Hipokritong dako.

Hinuon, guwangers naman si McCain, pero mas ok nako nang chikstirada nga ex-military pagka president, kesa  muslim, prends sa mga terrorist ug adoy2 sauna. (www.wikipedia.com )


Isa pa, kung iyang i-tax ang mga tao nga dato2 diri, kasagaran ra ba, small business. Sus Luoy ang daghan nga mga pinoy caregivers, ma lay off intawn. Alangan man, ug modako ang gasto sa business, di mang lay-off sila. Mo gamay na ang hiring ug import, ug dili man gani mang lay-off, mo gamay mga sweldo. Unsaon nalang ang mga pamilya sa pinas nga gipa skwela kung mogamay sweldo ni Mama, Papa, Ate, Kuya nga naa diri sa US. mas ok nalang ang pay cut kesa lay off gyud..sus pait. Maau man ug mga itum ta kay pwede ta magsalig sa gubyerno, saon pinoy man ta. diri, ang mga itum ra gipalabi kung tabang sa gubyerno hisgutan. bisan unsa ka pa nga color, pinoy, puti, mexican, insik, vietnamese ug uban pa, dili ka ispisyal kung dili ka itum.

Unsaon, wala naman tay mahimo ani...kayod lang ta.

Ug gusto niya kawaton ang atong kwarta nga hinagu-an...para panghatag sa mga tapulan nga itum sa daplin2 kilid2...aw...mao nay gi-ingon nga motambok ang mga banko sa PIlipinas kay ana naman ipadala tanan savings sa mga fil-am diri, kung maau sila mag huna2.

Ok ra nako i-tax ko...pero pls lang, wala man gani ko nakatabang sa tanan nakong parente nga uyamot, ihatag ba naman akong kwarta sa mga itum nga pagkang tapulana. dili ni racist ako-a ha, pero sa tinuoray lang sa hospital, ingon akong mga ig-agaw, tanan daw baby nga born with hiv/aids, itum, halos daw tanan bata nga drug baby, kana ba abnormal ga kurog2, itum sad daw.  halos daw pud tanan itum nga nanay sa hospital, wala kabalo kinsa tatay sa ilang bata. Dili ni akong facts ha, sa mga hungihong ra intawn ning ako...pero wala man sila rason mamakak nako sa assume lang ko tinuod ni.

humble opinion lang gud ni ako ha ..no violent reactions pls. ako ako ra sad ni.

Hello Ging!  First of, welcome to Tubag Bohol.  Secondly, tukayo bya ta kay Ging pod akong pet name. 

Now on your comments about Obama, ask lang ko, asa ka gikan ana na info? 

Dili man pina angkan si Obama sa iyang Kenyan father. He is a legitimate son of a legitimate married couple.  His parents married in 1961 and divorced in 1964.  But if he was, so what?  Ingon ka na "wala na kaayo sya ning angkon sa iyang katunga na pagkaputi", eh unsaon man na pag angkon enough na from the very beginning, he said na man na his mother, grandparents are white as white can be although naa na silay trace of Irish and German blood.  Ato lang siguro impression na gipaka dak-an nya ang iyang pagka itom kay that's the color of his skin.  Bitaw, maguwang ra bya gamay iyang ka itom sa color sa akon skin oi!


Raising tax.  Complicated kaayo ang taxation but just a little insight.  Dato does not mean small businesses.  He was going to increase taxes for, if I am not mistaken additional of 4%  for those earning more than 250k a year.  Currently, this bracket - the top bracket is taxed 35% so mamahimo na dayong 39% ang tax.  That was the same rate back in previous administrations.  With the reduction, those earning below 250k, naay tax break like 500 dollars per worker tax credit and 4k tax credit per child in college unya those earning below 50k a year, dili sila ma tax.  Same man pod sa ato diha naay dili i tax kon ubos na jud kaayo ang income kay unsa pa man tawon mabilin.  So I don't think matawag na nato'g kawaton para ihatag sa mga itom na tapulan or however you phrased it.  It's wrong to generalize people just because of the color of their skin.  Pareho ra tanan color atong dugo or basin naay uban lahi ang color?

As to his religion, ingon ni ms da binsi, so what if he is a Muslim?  From time to time, I remind myself that being a Muslim is not equivalent to Bin Laden.  Anyway, the fact is that he isn't a Muslim (again, not that there's anything wrong with that!). Obama was castigated  for his involvement with Christian preacher Jeremiah Wright, the pastor who spoke strongly about America.  Kay ngano daw?  Kay pastor lagi daw ni Obama.  Kini daw si Pastor Jeremiah Wright, mao daw ni na Pastor na nagkasal ni Obama ug Michelle and baptized their two girls.  So how can he be a Muslim and at the same time attend Christian church?

His alleged association with the terrorists.  His opponents counted two or three or maybe four people associated with Obama that has link to terrorist movements. Do we have to ask first before we sit with people what their political or social affiliations are?   I "associated" with criminals in Muntinlupa as my "act of mercy" stuff.  Does it make me criminal as well?  Or, lahi na sya pagka interpret nko?  Di ko ka gets. 

His drug use when he was in high school.  I can only be thankful that I didn't have youthful indiscretions like that but other kids deal with life differently. Well, somebody challenged me to use marijuana back in high school pero grabeh akong fear ma kastiguhan sa akong amahan! hahaha  Bitaw, his parents divorced, mother moved to Indonesia, etc.  That's too much for other kids to handle.  Well, I don't want to sound like I am justifying but that's the way things were.  We all make mistakes and it will continue to be a mistake if we don't see it as such.  Obama did.  At that time, Obama did not have a foresight that he was becoming a president otherwise he didn't do that kay nah batikoson jud sya!  The important thing is that he turned his life around and became a decent person.  In fact he is now the 44th US President!

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« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2008, 12:14:44 AM »
he is a worldwide leader.
born in africa
grew up in asia
has a middle eastern name
yet an american.

ate ging! ym?

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« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2008, 12:16:28 AM »
he is a worldwide leader.
born in africa
grew up in asia
has a middle eastern name
yet an american.

ate ging! ym?

ok,  ym go! hehehe

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« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2008, 01:23:53 AM »
Okey kaayo nga i increase ang tax sa mga rich,worker labi na sa mga doctor ug nurses kay dagko ni sila income  it's patriotic kung magbayad tag taas nga tax matud pa ni Vice Pres. Biden unya makadiyos pud para sa akong opinion.Share the wealth ba.Redistribution matud pa.
Asa man na paingon ang atong tax adto raman gihapon sa welfare sa mga nagkinahanlan.Okey ang tax increase kay tanan ma benefited labi na tong tabangunon.Kato walay health insurance okey ra masakit kay naa may goberno magbayad,ang way gikaon naa pud goberno mag provide ug mao na gikan na sa inyo tax ug among tax.Bisan ang agriculture sector bisan malugi taplan sa goberno sa nagasto nga gikan pud sa inyo tax ug akong tax.
Act of charity man para nako ang tax.Kung kawaton sa goberno ang tax di na sala nako basta I already done my part ing share sa ako hinaguan.

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« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2008, 02:06:20 AM »
Ako lang pikas-pikason akong post oi kay dili man mopilit ug kas-a hon.



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« Reply #77 on: November 08, 2008, 02:06:46 AM »
Hello Ging!  First of, welcome to Tubag Bohol.  Secondly, tukayo bya ta kay Ging pod akong pet name. 

Now on your comments about Obama, ask lang ko, asa ka gikan ana na info? 

Dili man pina angkan si Obama sa iyang Kenyan father. He is a legitimate son of a legitimate married couple.  His parents married in 1961 and divorced in 1964.  But if he was, so what?  Ingon ka na "wala na kaayo sya ning angkon sa iyang katunga na pagkaputi", eh unsaon man na pag angkon enough na from the very beginning, he said na man na his mother, grandparents are white as white can be although naa na silay trace of Irish and German blood.  Ato lang siguro impression na gipaka dak-an nya ang iyang pagka itom kay that's the color of his skin.  Bitaw, maguwang ra bya gamay iyang ka itom sa color sa akon skin oi!


Raising tax.  Complicated kaayo ang taxation but just a little insight.  Dato does not mean small businesses.  He was going to increase taxes for, if I am not mistaken additional of 4%  for those earning more than 250k a year.  Currently, this bracket - the top bracket is taxed 35% so mamahimo na dayong 39% ang tax.  That was the same rate back in previous administrations.  With the reduction, those earning below 250k, naay tax break like 500 dollars per worker tax credit and 4k tax credit per child in college unya those earning below 50k a year, dili sila ma tax.  Same man pod sa ato diha naay dili i tax kon ubos na jud kaayo ang income kay unsa pa man tawon mabilin.  So I don't think matawag na nato'g kawaton para ihatag sa mga itom na tapulan or however you phrased it.  It's wrong to generalize people just because of the color of their skin.  Pareho ra tanan color atong dugo or basin naay uban lahi ang color?

As to his religion, ingon ni ms da binsi, so what if he is a Muslim?  From time to time, I remind myself that being a Muslim is not equivalent to Bin Laden.  Anyway, the fact is that he isn't a Muslim (again, not that there's anything wrong with that!). Obama was castigated  for his involvement with Christian preacher Jeremiah Wright, the pastor who spoke strongly about America.  Kay ngano daw?  Kay pastor lagi daw ni Obama.  Kini daw si Pastor Jeremiah Wright, mao daw ni na Pastor na nagkasal ni Obama ug Michelle and baptized their two girls.  So how can he be a Muslim and at the same time attend Christian church?

His alleged association with the terrorists.  His opponents counted two or three or maybe four people associated with Obama that has link to terrorist movements. Do we have to ask first before we sit with people what their political or social affiliations are?   I "associated" with criminals in Muntinlupa as my "act of mercy" stuff.  Does it make me criminal as well?  Or, lahi na sya pagka interpret nko?  Di ko ka gets. 

His drug use when he was in high school.  I can only be thankful that I didn't have youthful indiscretions like that but other kids deal with life differently. Well, somebody challenged me to use marijuana back in high school pero grabeh akong fear ma kastiguhan sa akong amahan! hahaha  Bitaw, his parents divorced, mother moved to Indonesia, etc.  That's too much for other kids to handle.  Well, I don't want to sound like I am justifying but that's the way things were.  We all make mistakes and it will continue to be a mistake if we don't see it as such.  Obama did.  At that time, Obama did not have a foresight that he was becoming a president otherwise he didn't do that kay nah batikoson jud sya!  The important thing is that he turned his life around and became a decent person.  In fact he is now the 44th US President!

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Let me start this with a small story from college.

Back when I was in manila, Erap declared all out war in mindanao. In my college that was a big controversial thing. A lot of the northern students, meaning Tagalogs, Ilokanos etc rallied "NO TO WAR". They haven't been to mindanao, can't even point Davao in a map, and don't have any vested interest in mindanao.

The Southern students who actually grew up in Mindanao rallied "YES TO WAR". They have lived there, the muslims have destroyed their homes, their farms, their livelihoods, their families etc.



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« Reply #78 on: November 08, 2008, 02:07:43 AM »
So logically, who should we believe ? people caught up in the "cause of the moment" ? or people who really have a vested interest in war or no war ? either way, it wont affect the northern students, but the southern students see that fighting back is the only way to stop the violence.

Personally, I have family in mindanao and the things they don't tell us that are happening are just plain atrocious. So I am inclined to support the war. Because I trust my family who have no reason to lie to me.


Why is this related, well, Ate Ging, are you in the US ? do you have family that live here ? I hope this does not come out the wrong way, the only reason I ask is that, Do you have a vested interest in the future or the way of life here in the US ? Because if you do or don't that changes your perspective a little. If I am living in the Philippines right now and my life won't be affected, I couldnt care less about  the US economy, I don't think I will go for a conservative old man, but probably support Obama because he seems to be the charismatic popular choice...but since I am here, I support "the lesser evil". McCain won't be my first choice, I just don't believe in Obama.


My point with his being an illegitimate child was this : he should be more grateful that everything he has ever had in his life, except for the color of his skin was given to him by his white family. Yes, he mentions that side of the family, but how often really ?  I know in Politics, you have to capitalize on what you have, but c'mon, minimizing the other half of him ? You don't hear him campagning and reaching out to Caucasian communities, but all you see on the news, FOX news ( I don't watch CNN or NBC since they are largely democratic and biased) is that most of his programs   are geared towards welfare and basically making life easier for those people who are already doing nothing. That is unfair to those of us who actually get up at the crack of dawn to work for everything we've got.

watch this , a typical Obama supporter here in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agAvKP-NnjU


As for the tax, with all due respect Ging, most small businesses here do make $250k above. Its not considered rich. BUT, that $250k is just gross income, expenses, salary etc still has to come out of that. So if taxes are raised on small business, all they can do to survive is 2 things, pass the cost to the consumer, or terminate an employee. That will result in a rise in uneployment and a higher cost of goods. If more small companies go belly up, there will be no competition in the market and you know the rest. basic economics. So we really need tax breaks for those people who are trying. I mean, think about it, would you be all ambitious and get up every morning to work hard if you know that as soon as you hit that $250k mark, your taxes will automatically go up? its easy to get there specially with a lot of our fellow pinoy nurses who work 2-3 hospitals at $30-$60/hr.

I can see the how people making below $50k won't be taxed or the tax credits, it would be ideal and it would be nice. Might surprise you to note, I actually do listen to the other side. But, even in our beloved homeland, Do you really think they can push that into fruition ? Seriously, in both countries, when we talk of higher taxes, it becomes a reality almost instantly, but tax cuts in this magnitude ? I don't think it will happen in the next 4 years. In fact, not holding my breath for it. 

Then you'd argue, what about tax cuts for businesses. Well, a lot of businesses pay a lot of money into supporting their candidates, the big ones at least, so its easier for them to get a tax cut. The average person here, heck, we don't give to political campaigns, we need our money for ourselves than give it to to people who already have it, so there goes the motivation. I mean, if it was you, would you work harder for a paying job or a job that doesnt pay you anything ? :-)


As to his religion, different sources, different things. I've personally seen fox news, you tube (if it wasnt pulled yet) and wikipedia (not sure about this one ha) , Apparently, our boy was once very proud of his muslim religion prior to 9/11, then he just shusshed. I mean, ikaw ba pud, ma proud ba diay sad ka after ana. I know not all  muslims are bad. But just humor me nalang gud, personally, mahadlok jud ko ug muslim. 1 because of our very own Abu Sayyaf in Mindanao and 2, my brother in law is in the US marines. if I start with how the muslims in the middle east torture their own people, it will take all day. Just go to www.Ogrish.com . it gave me the chills.

Also, in a poll on Fox, the Iranian president, Kim jong il  and Hugo Chavez actually prefers Obama. Again people, ayaw sa kasuko. As I've said, McCain is not my first choice, but since they like Obama, I don't like him . What does this imply, they think that Obama is a weakling. In fairness, he doesnt have the war experience Mccain has, He doesnt have a child in the military like McCain, Palin and Biden have. But what is scary about this is that, if they think that he is "b***t" (sa ato pang binugoy nga language), we will be looking at another possible terrorist attack.  And we won't know where its gonna be coming from.  Mura ba ug "gulat-gulat" sa ato. Di ba, naa ubang taw nga mokuyos lang, mao na maoy sigehan ug sug-sug or maoy kalingawan, pero tong dili gani ma 'gulat", wala gyud manghilabot ? ingana ra gud sad akong point.



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« Reply #79 on: November 08, 2008, 02:08:45 AM »
I agree with you, Raquel. Give to Caesar what is due to Caesar and give to God what is due to God, Jesus said in the Gospel. Jesus paid his tax to the Roman government.

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