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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2008, 10:24:10 AM »

 ;) ty te  ;D

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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2008, 11:57:51 AM »

There is a saying, Ma'am Langgam. That a healthy and loving family is worth more than all the jewels and money in the world. Your post reminded me of that saying. :)

I agree bitaw.

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« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2008, 05:11:57 AM »
poor people start in wanting to get rich when they are exposed to the lifestyle of the rich people raman..
because they would start to compare ..
murag ang mga tribe nga wala pa na discover ba
what you dont know wont hurt you bya jud..:)
as long as d pa ma expose they will be contented with the Functionalism Theory (as per gelyan)


baman sa wala pa gi diagnosed nga cancer wala man na luya kay wa pa naka hibaw..psychological pud. naa rajud na sa pagdala sa contentment of what you have in life
heeey? what's the point of this?


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« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2008, 12:55:27 AM »
Very true, Bem. You see alot of the materialism syndrome here in the United States. Its as if the neighbor wants what the next door neighbor has. An endless competitive cycle. If one gets a new car, the other gets a bigger car. If one gets a water sprinkler system installed, the other gets one that is bigger. If one gets a fence, the other gets  a bigger fence. If one gets  a dog, the other gets 2 dogs.

So what I like to do is just adopt the "I just don't care" concept. If a neighbor does something or gets something, I just dont care. So long as we have food on the table, the kids are going to school, getting good grades, so long as my parents are in good health, happy, so long as we go to church and receive grace. Okey ra jud ko.

Sure, there are natural urges to get things. But if one falls into the pit of competition with your neighbor, it tends to be hard to get out of it.

Living in suburbia, I notice this completely. Even when I walk my dog around my neighborhood, its as if the neighbors are always competing with each other. When one turns on their sprinkler system, the other does too. LOL.

Its like observing little children. Child mentality, if you think about it.


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« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2008, 08:53:48 AM »

tinood jud na dong, para nako jud basta himsog lang ming tanan, I FEeL rich na jud.

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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2008, 05:28:48 PM »
achieve status [/i] kung muasenso naka gamay in sociological terms social mobility. pero naa sad ta ginatawag na ascribed status kanang pagkatao palang nimo dato naka tungod sa parents nimo. wala ka naningkamot or naningtuhod ana kay mana na nah nimo...dili naka kailangan magbanat ng buto hehehe tama ba?
pasalamat ta kay dili ta nabelong aning ginatawag na caste system sa unang panahon. where in kung matao ka aning kalibutana nga pobre..pobre naka for life...kung datu ka inig katao nimo swerte ka.... mao man ni ang system sa Indian before pero giabolished na nila...atleast nataohan sila dba para fair ang competition sa society!
pero kung magobserve ta dili pwede magpantay2x ang stado sa mga tao...kay kung datu tanan kinsa naman mananom, manglimpyo sa balay as helpers, wala nay magdriver, wala nay magyaya ug bata, etc kay taas na gud tanan position. puro na naay power or authority wala nay magpaubos..hehehe gubot dba? Mao man ni explanation sa Functionalism Theory.
Functionalists see society as made up of inter-dependent sections which work together to fulfill the functions necessary for the survival of society as a whole. People are socialized into roles and behaviors which fulfill the needs of society. Functionalists believe that behavior in society is structural. They believe that rules and regulations help organize relationships between members of society. Values provide general guidelines for sexual and physical behavior in terms of roles and norms. These institutions of society such as the family, the economy, the educational and political systems, are major aspects of the social structure. Institutions are made up of interconnected roles or inter-related norms. For example, inter-connected roles in the institution of the family are of wife, mother, husband, father, son and daughter.
Pero dili man na ang big deal ba as long as naa lang tay makaon, mapalit kung naa tay gusto. ang mga pobre bitaw bisan unsa kalisod naa jud na makaon. ;D In Biblical manner, ang importante is giunsa nato pagbuhat ang atong palasyon sa langit inig kawala nato aning kalibutana... busy kaayo ta cge padatu unya dili man na nato madala inig kamatay..hehehe mga steward lang ta aning kalibutana.  ;)


Well said, Gelyan :)

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« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2008, 03:52:59 PM »
 some rich people inherited their wealth from there family,what im amazed are those young talented individuals who got their wealth through their hard work and talent,like the founder of facebook..on the other hand for those poor people but with ambition and luck they manage to become wealthy or those really lucky millioners who won the lottery..but i feel sorry for those individual who were rich before and becoming poor,those poor people who are still on poverty line badluck and lack of courage probably the caused but what matters me most are those getting rich by means corruption...

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« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2008, 04:18:05 PM »
apil na nah sa gisulti nila..there are 3 ways to get rich!

1. be a businessman
2. build your own church
3. join the government

naa pa ba uban?...hehehe

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« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2008, 04:24:36 PM »
yeah ms happy! dili man jud nato maeliminate ang social ranking...ok na ang open system nato nga anytime pwede ta musaka kung maningkamot ta then pwede pud mubaba sa socia ladder kung mapordoy na. ;D sa maningkamot ug maningtuhod lang.

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« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2008, 09:38:23 PM »
be a government official..hehe evil.

seriously. do business

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« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2008, 01:52:58 AM »
One way to be rich:

Whatever pay you get, put 50% in the bank. The rest can be placed for expenses.

They key is to save up for a rainy day.

Think about it this way, if you get a pay check of say $5,000.00 a month. If you put $2,000-2,500 in the bank, that means you will only spend around $2,500. This will mean you will be forced to limit your spending and your purchasing habits.

Keep this up for about 6 months. And I guarantee you in 6 months you will have a solid $15,000.00 saved up. If you continue it for another 6 months then you will have saved $30,000.00 in one year.

Continue this for two years and you would have saved around $60,000.00! Can you imagine!

This is how you become 'rich'. You must learn to save. And control your spending habits.
The quickest way to 'poordom' is excessive spending; spending beyond your limits.

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« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2008, 02:03:19 AM »
I work with Dr. Bermmingham, here in the local hospital clinic. I volunteer in his office once or twice a month and have become his friend these past two years. And from what I've learned from him is his remarkable business skills. Which have been attributary to his successful medical clinic(s).

Dr. B told me that the key to his success was his 'restrained' spending. Years immediately after his graduation from medical school, he struggled to pay off his school debt, and after 5 years, he was able to pay his total debt.

And he began what he refers to as the 'restrained spending lifestyle'. 50% of what he made a month was placed in his bank. Savings.

He did this for one year, and can you imagine that in one year he was able to save up $200,000.00! In one year alone! Even with two clinics under his name, he still does this. Just running two clinics and saving 50% of what he grosses in a month, he is able to save close to a Million dollars in a year.

To me, that is perfect business skills. Great life tips, IMHO.

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« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2008, 03:35:52 PM »
@ lorenzo admin,controlling the cashflow is verry effective way to save but what about those who are earning on minimum wage and just rely only on their salary for living..i dont think they can be a rich guy even for along period of time.and speaking of bussines only few real pinoy into a big bussines mostly foreigners who are enjoying the fraud with the connections of some govt officials,im talking about paying the tax theyve earned from their biz. and the benifits and salary of their employees.

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« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2008, 05:58:11 PM »
But in the case of our beloved Philippines, as long as we cannot get out  on our semi colonial and semi feudal  system, yet the 2 classes elite in our society will still exists (the poor and the rich).Our country is facing these three basic problems, namely: imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat capitalism,which now ruthlessly exploit the broad masses of the Filipino people. These three historical evils are the basic problems that afflict Philippine society, nga bisan unsaon pa nato og pagpaningkamot ang atong kita igo rang itubag sa atong inadlaw adlawng panginahanglanon, ang katawhan gigisa lang intawn sa kaugalingon niyang mantika..

Hows does imperialism monopolized the Filipino people?
The semicolonial character of Philippine society is principally determined by U.S. imperialism.
In an uneven and spasmodic way, U.S. surplus capital has been invested in the Philippine economy. At present the U.S. monopolies and their local subsidiaries own or control such businesses involving petroleum14, tire and rubber, drugs, fertilizers, chemicals, mining, heavy equipment, marketing, transport facilities and others. The majority of the biggest corporations in the Philippines today are American. They control at least 50 per cent of the total business assets in the country.

And what about feudalism?
Feudalism is a mode of production in which the principal forces of production are the peasants and the land which they till and the relations of production are basically characterized by landlord oppression and exploitation of the peasantry. The most immediate manifestation of feudalism is the possession of vast areas of cultivable land by a few landlords who themselves do not till the land and who compel a big number of tenants to do the tilling. Feudal relations between the parasitic landlord class and the productive peasantry essentially involve the extortion of exorbitant land rent in cash or kind from the latter by the former. Such basic relations leave the tenant-peasants impoverished as their share of the crop is just enough or even often inadequate for their subsistence. Ang mga mag-uuma nga maoy mismo nitikad sa yuta og nimugna og prudokto aron ipakaon sa tibuok katawhang Pilipino saop man lang gihapon..ang tinood nga reporma sa yuta  ang ilang  gipangita, ibalik na ang yuta nga dugay na nilang gipangandoy.

And bureaucrat capitalism refers to our government officials..they are the sources  of Graft and Corruption,,get bribe money on the adoption of laws, executive orders and court decisions. In every contract, concession, franchise or license there is a certain amount of money that is used to line the pockets of the bureaucrat capitalists. Oftentimes, they themselves are parties in private transactions directly or through trusted dummies or relatives.

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« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2008, 11:21:58 PM »

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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2008, 02:14:54 AM »

You know, back then, I got involved in a tripartite project with Phil government represented by a government-owned bank, our private bank and the German GTZ.  We set up a bank in the municipalities of Alcoy, Boljoon and Oslob in South Cebu where there's concentration of the German GTZ.  I remember how good we were in talking about inculcating the value of savings in various cooperatives with members mostly farmers.  Same thing among gi ingon.  Savings should be a part of the budget and not just save whatever left after spending for food, tuba, clothings, etc.  And later it dawned on me that my action was not according to my words.  hahahah  Wa jud savings kay di jud ka igo and if ever naay ma save ginagmay, magamit gihapon for hospitalization or tabang sa pamilya.  Anyhow, I was just proud that the farmers there  really had savings which we were able to set up a quasi-bank for them we called People's Development Fund. 
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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2008, 05:53:45 AM »

I'm sorry Gelyan I must disagree the above 3 numerated ways to become rich....

 1. If you will engage into business...first you need a big capital, good knowledged for business transactions and good     
    nerves for the customers who might come for a daily credits;....So, morag pordoy lang gihapon ang labas, di ba? Ikita kag away, daghan 
    kay makontra.  >:(  No dice for a kind hearted Pinoy. BUSINESS is not the right way!

2. With a  strong educated catholic belief, we Pinoys are already subjected to raise dozen  of kids.  More kids means more
    hungry mouths to feed, right? No way out then based from the  82% of the Pilipinos are catholic. Unless until, you will
    build a new sect with many rich followers with high valued donors; Might be a way  :-\ RELIGION is also not the answer!

3. Join the government - you must have to follow the nature of our politicians - admit and be corrupt it will result you to get rich
    but as a strong catholic...fearing to God and want to tender an honest services.  So, this could be not the right way as
    soon as you will be at yourself. Hungry monthly salary wouldn't even enough... :( POLITICS - is  a dirty/devil business!

    In my own opinion the best way to become rich is not through these 3 other ways cited.  You must have only to be honest and believe of yourself and  disregard all material things in which you will not carry until death. Being RICH it is the feeling of what you honestly achieved which gives you  full satisfaction in life.  Indeed, material things are all passing scence but spiritually richness is lasting.  Millionaires are also having their own problems,right? You will be having a RICH FEELINGS if you know how to deal your own capabilities and  respect towards yourself and learn to accept that life is still beautiful if you will look on the other side of it. :) MONEY - is not a real LIFE! :)

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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2008, 06:11:21 AM »
pero pud ate bambs, we need to be practical in order to survive..?

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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2008, 06:20:03 AM »

of course ms. kiamoy. but not to the extent of ones capabilities....i mean not in all means that one must have to sale her/his soul for money. 

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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2008, 06:27:19 AM »
okay i get your point te, one should be contented to what he/she has..

then again we are exposed (thru media,hypes) to what others have..
by nature we strive to achieve or overcome their situation in life..
i think it is only when we realize and accept what we can only have, do we know that life after all is not all about the money..
so it all goes back to your opinion..

pro te, i think all people at one point in their life strived to have more than what they have..





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