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The belief on one true religion
« on: January 07, 2009, 04:09:28 AM »
I am a Christian, by name and in practice.  Born in a conservative religious family, I grew up going to church every sunday, missing one would give me a guilt-feeling.  Educated in a catholic school, this has deepen my faith and love for Christ.  My idealism and values were molded my Christian traditions and beliefs. 

During my university years, I came across some other people in the development world.  Working with the poor, the oppressed and the marginalized  gave me a sense of purpose. .  This has given me a microcosmic level of the world I live in.

After university, I got a teaching job at the Ateneo de Davao.  Working in Mindanao was a challenge most especially at that time when the Sasa pier and the Davao airport were bombed.  The bombers were identified by their religion, and yes .. they were Muslims.

I kept on asking why?  Why would some people identified by their religious affiliation commit such?

Until now, I cannot find any concrete answers, only observations..

Studying in Europe for two years now, the question still bothers me.  My constant association with people with different political and religious background made the picture clearer.

In an academic question, how does religion shape politics?, Ive learned to know that this question can even be answere in a microcosmic level.

One of the defining feature of politics is that it consists of "social relations involving authority or power". How do people impose their authority? Through political avenues such as government, protected and supported by policies.

In human relations, where does the source of power emanate? Under which instruments is it legitimized?  Through traditions, beliefs, practices and religion.

Religion is an institution of faith and faith is a matter of believing.  It is a process of believing because it does not need any solid evidence or proof.  Christ told us in the Bible" Blessed are those who didnt see but believed."

Beliefs can grow and penetrate to the deepest of our bones that we carry it until we die.  Muslim suicide bombers die with their beliefs.  If these beliefs are false or not, it is for us not to judge.

Religious ethnocentrism reflects who we are as people.  When one religion claim that his religion is the one and true religion, the other also does.  and because this is a matter of faith and believing, no one wins in the end.  Because in believing again, proofs are not necessary.

In a social sense, this has caused conflict of people coming from different religious affiliation.  Because we think that our beliefs are true and the others are false, it creates conflict, it creates division.  This clashes of ideology creates conflict in actual practices. This is precisely for the reason that beliefs are expressed in practices.

Religious intolerance is either intolerance motivated by one's own religious beliefs or intolerance against another's religious beliefs or practices. It manifests both at a cultural level, but may also be a formal part of the dogma of particular religious groups.

The mere statement on the part of a religion that its own beliefs and practices are correct and any contrary beliefs incorrect does not in itself constitute intolerance (ie., ideological intolerance). There are many cases throughout history of established religions tolerating other practices. Religious intolerance, rather, is when a group (a society, a religious group) specifically refuses to tolerate practices, persons or beliefs on religious grounds (ie., intolerance in practice). Religious intolerance may be purely religious, but can be a "cover story" for an underlying political or cultural motive.

The world has aged, but the old problem on religious conflict has never been given any solution.  If we try to think about it, time has never changed.  History repeats itself. We may have grown as people technologically, but the dogma that we live by, pushes us back where we were centuries ago.


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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 06:20:05 AM »
I was one of the pioneer of the North Rhine Wesfalen One world Forum. This was dedicated to everything related to the Phil in all walks of  life. The first meeting was really exciting, especially the participants. There was this Blue Nun ( Steyler missionary)who worked with the Mangyans for 35 yrs, German- Fil organizations, Phil Consul Gary Auxillian, representing the Phil Government, Protestant groups wiht different projects in the Phil, Amnesty International ( Krefeld section) with Mr Runge as the delegation head. After some meetings that followed, Davao City was the main issue particularly Mayor Duterte. He was able to put peace and order to this flourishing city but at what cost. The question was,  do we approve of his methodics in ruling the city? The answer was Yes! Davao progressed, lesser crimes and the people are contented. The next question was, why do we react positively to his politics if  we are so called practicing christians who abhor killings without due process of law? where did he got the right to eliminate the undesirables like drug addicts, drug pushers, Muslim separatists and the like.  We are blinded with his policy. This is a double moral issue.  Do we really  practice the faith of one true religion in this example?


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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 06:34:23 AM »
there is what they say. double standard morality and split level christianity..


A good example of double standard morality is infidelity.  There is more social  condemnation when a woman commits adultery compare when a man commits concubinage.
Concubinage and adultery is in principle the same but different penalties according to the Criminal Code.

Split-level Christianity is a good reflection of  the Philippine Society.  Remember Banal na Aso Santong Kabayo, a alternative rock song in the early 90?

Most of us claim to be devoted followers of the teachings of Christ by doing external observances like attending masses, prayers, reading the bible.. but do we really live by the spirit of the scriptures we are reading?

Isnt it mere arrogance to discuss biblical scriptures when one fails to witness the gospel ( please note: witness the gospel is living the gospel)

Just a point of reflection

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 06:41:22 AM »
Okay you are right, but nobody´s perfect and we all strive to follow the footsteps of a real christian. Everyday is a struggle, a fight for perfection.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 06:41:23 AM »
Ayessa, what can you say about an athiest and an ethical person? I am not one, but just curious about your views.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 06:50:13 AM »
the freedom of religion is the freedom to believe on any religion and freedom not to believe.
In europe, more and more people dont believe in God. Most of them dont want to pay taxes to the Roman Catholic church. Second, one finds no meaning in the concept of God when one has everything.  It is in faith that people in the Philippines sees hope.  It is in faith that we believe that justice can be achieved in heaven.

Not believing in God is a pragmatic, utilitarian view.  "I only believe in something that is useful to me".  If God didnt give me food everyday, then He is not existent."

There is only one rule I believe in social relations and that is respect and this crosses over beliefs, color, tradition, gender, sexual orientation and the like.

Ethics and morality is more or less a relative Christian view.  Even if most people claim that morality and ethics is universal, in actuality it is not.  My morals are different than yours.  And who says that polyandry among the indian community and polygamy in the muslim culture immoral when this is a part of their culture?  Judging this immoral would be an act of enthocentrism.  That ones culture and beliefs is rightful and others are wrong.

We live in a multi-polar world..

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 06:51:50 AM »
one would only find credibility in his words through his actions....

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 07:31:52 AM »
Mao  baja na nga mag tagay lang ta!!!

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 10:34:57 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 11:11:30 AM »
sus dis-a man ka sa tagay, absenota ka!

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 11:31:38 AM »

unsa man ning gitagay? tanduay ni? apil ko!!!
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 12:32:19 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 01:00:13 PM »
isuka ra glacier para murag sugod ug usob.

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 02:20:45 PM »
religion gi hisgutan unja nahimo mang tagay? sa misa naa bajay tagay.

maghimo kaha tag tagay religion. daghan siguro mo apil mga taga TB.

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 02:37:22 PM »
kana noon apil jud ko!


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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 04:26:49 PM »
kabalo lagi kag kampai buwad. nakatrabaho kag japanese company?

bangka tagay mdb ha, ikaw amo pari sa tagay religion. lol

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2009, 05:31:30 AM »

murag huwasan na...asa na mag tagay padong.

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2009, 05:33:01 AM »

ug si MDB? uyon ko. naay mag-"service" nga gatuwad-tuwad kay perting huboga hahaha


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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2009, 01:05:22 PM »

LOL!!! wa pa man mu-accept si mdb sa iya appointment. asa na man to!

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »
huy bangka nga sakayan? o bangka nga mo dalit? mo bangka nga mopalit?

basta bangka ok ko ana!



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