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« Reply #340 on: March 18, 2010, 09:21:24 AM »


dili! kadto ra nang plastic gigamit sa mga bata ig mag costume party! hahahha!
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« Reply #341 on: March 18, 2010, 09:23:34 AM »

He he, ang kalainan lang, ang coup de grass, er, gras (sorry, light-headed pa ko, bwahaha) for the bull anha sa tangkugo, while sa bullfrog, anha sa kigow! ;D
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« Reply #342 on: March 18, 2010, 09:26:19 AM »

Bwahaha. Ang plastik angay lang na sa dili tinuod nga bull, or bull-bull. (Oi, lain man paminawon ning pulonga. Na hala, imbis bull, toro. Toro-toro na lang! ;D

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« Reply #343 on: March 18, 2010, 09:28:43 AM »


katok man jud ka Hubag oi! hahahahhaha! basi ma unay ka ron ana imong estocada! naa jud ron murag bull nga nag aso aso ang ilong! nag samok2x sa ija lantay! wink hehehehe!

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« Reply #344 on: March 18, 2010, 12:48:41 PM »

bull's eye, torokitok!  mahilig jud ka sa duha, bay hubs.  duha ba kaha tawon imong asawa?  adultery ra ba na, according to the bible. ;)
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« Reply #345 on: March 18, 2010, 12:53:06 PM »
time sa ra gud.  adultery para ra ba na sa babaye?  kung lalaki diay, babytery o adolescentery?  mora man hinoon ug ang babaye makasala, adult pero kung ang lalaki... ahem, unsa may tawag sa inyong sala nga susama ani? 

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« Reply #346 on: March 18, 2010, 02:29:42 PM »

Taym sa, kinsay nag-ingon nga minjo si Botoy? ;D

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« Reply #347 on: March 18, 2010, 02:31:43 PM »

Babytery or adolescentery? Ang ahong nahibaw-an kay ang mahilig sa teen-ager (or DC), ang tawag dysentery! ;D

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« Reply #348 on: March 18, 2010, 07:54:31 PM »

ang imong ikalimang asawa, hahahaha! ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #349 on: March 18, 2010, 08:05:13 PM »

Ikalima? Basin nasajop kag ihap, bwahaha. ;D

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« Reply #350 on: March 18, 2010, 08:14:19 PM »

i like that term.  sin and disease in one package.  ang saysentahon nga mo-commit ug dysentery kay type niya teenagers, angay tawgon nga cemetery.  the sin is dysentery, the person is cemetery.

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« Reply #351 on: March 31, 2010, 10:36:33 PM »

Science, is man's attempt in trying to understand the Supreme Intelligence of Divine Providence.

No matter how much we try to comprehend and understand, we will never fully understand.

Even the scientific method, itself, by basis of standard, cannot 100% proove anything.

Merely, only debate and abate in statistical terms in the strength of its confidence interval; in defending a said theory/hypothesis.

Or nullification of said hypothesis/ theorem.






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« Reply #352 on: March 31, 2010, 11:15:57 PM »
trying[/i] to understand the Supreme Intelligence of Divine Providence.

No matter how much we try to comprehend and understand, we will never fully understand.

Even the scientific method, itself, by basis of standard, cannot 100% proove anything.

Merely, only debate and abate in statistical terms in the strength of its confidence interval; in defending a said theory/hypothesis.

Or nullification of said hypothesis/ theorem.


Now, I can't even start to try to undertand this goobledygook.

What, for heaven's sake, is "debate and abate in statistical terms in the strength of its confidence interval"?

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« Reply #353 on: March 31, 2010, 11:59:40 PM »
It is in reference to how members of the scientific community debate and discuss scholarly journals that follow the scientific method. Essential to scientific debate is to state a hypothesis, reasons for it established in previous scholarly work, and implementing methods and materials in substantiating the said hypothesis. When this is done, one utilizes data and graphs to indicate support for one's hypothesis. Critical to this is statistical measurements; and follow confidence intervals; namely assessing the positive correlation or negative correlation in statistical numbers. Ergo, is there positive correlation or negative correlation, is the hypothesis supported by trial and methodology or is it countered. This is where null hypothesis comes to play and its role is evident.

In the scientific scholarly community, we cannot substantially prove anything, however, we can indicate strong confidence in support of a said hypothesis by statistical numbers, graphs, tables.

It is impossible to conclusively prove something 100% because if one argues in scientific methodology, we inherently accept that there will always be the presence of human error. The very basis of scientific experimentation, and research follows the regimen of The Scientific Method is composed of the following:

Define the question
Gather information and resources (observe)
Form hypothesis
Perform experiment and collect data
Analyze data
Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypothesis
Publish results
Retest (frequently done by other scientists)


Continual retesting by the scientific community is due to the inherent human error in any experimentation; and subsequent tests utilize statistical confirmation in their data result and compare it to the results of the primordial experiment (first data) and compare it how it statistically is similar to the original data (strong confidence) or is different to the original data (weak confidence).



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In regards to faith, we argue based on reason, and doctrine. Science on the other hand argues based on numbers and theories and natural law.

To better understand and have a general comprehension of both sides, it is best to read into both, even, if possible, find common ground.

I like Martin Luther King Jr's opinion on said matter when he was asked about religion and its relation to science.,

"Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge which is power; religion gives man wisdom which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values.

The two are not rivals. They are complementary.

Science keeps religion from sinking into the valley of crippling irrationalism and paralyzing obscurantism. Religion prevents science from falling into the marsh of obsolete materialism and moral nihilism."

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I agree much with King's position. In the light of recent discoveries, which adds depth to Scripture.

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« Reply #354 on: April 01, 2010, 12:08:39 AM »

Which recent discoveries are these?

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« Reply #355 on: April 01, 2010, 12:26:06 AM »

If you study medicine, and the biological sciences, which is the field that I am in, then one is fortunate to see the Wisdom of God in everyday occurrences, and sees His marvelous creation in play. For it is perfect. Perfection.

Genesis 1:31 , "And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. "

Indeed everything he made was good. From the organismal level to the micoscopic level that works within the organismal system. God, in his brilliance and Wisdom designed everything so that it follows the law of AA (Amino Acids), which is the primordium of proteins, which is the product of genetic translation, elongation, and eventual transcription. By this we stand to the fact that mature RNA (m-RNA) is the precursor to proteins, and proteins, my dear Hubag Bohol, is the basis for every single message and aspect of the human and organismal body.

It is proteins that compose hormones, it is proteins that make up tissues, it is protein that makes up the collagenous basis of bone matrices, muscle, dense fibers. The brain that you and I utilize that allows us to think and rationalize by the activity of our cerebral cortex, which is responsible for memory, rational thought, conscious and subconscious thought, relays this information to the midbrain, and the hypothalamus which is responsible for emitting hormones to stimulate your neuromuscular juction to release ACH (acetylcholine) which leads to the release of calcium and muscular activity, thereby focusing and harnessing your physical ability to type your fingers on the keyboard, and at the same time, in harmonious conjunciton with your cerebral thought to debate and process thoughts into words via the use of physical motor ablities.

All of which rely on the trinucleotidic base sequence, which produces amino acids, which produces proteins, which is essential for all life.

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And what is more beautiful is that though the body experiences genetic devation and mutation due to environmental stresses and genetic predisposition, the body has been already designed to erase and fix mutated genes via genetic excision repair, missense repair, etc.

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The glorious advances in molecular genetics gives to us an understanding of what God can do, and what God did do, in his Supreme Intelligence and Design.

Indeed. Everything he did and designed was good. And is Good. If there is a flaw, he designed it to be replaced inherently. If there is deviation, he desgined it so that balance will occur and that balance is his Divine Command.

We see the necessity of balance in nature, which relates to Malthusian theory, as well as in the concept of herbivory and carnivory (ecological science) and see that balance is also a law in the microscopic level. In our own bodies.

As our bodies require homeostasis to function, so does our blood. It requires hemostasis, because a devation from balance leads to damage and even irreperable repair. Such as seen in thrombosis, and plaque formation, which translates to Myocardial Infarct (Heart Attack) if it is not assessed and repaired.

Divine Law and Natural Law, have common ground.

 


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« Reply #356 on: April 01, 2010, 12:49:37 AM »
"The glorious advances in molecular genetics", as you kindly explained them, support the idea that God created the universe? Hmm, there appears to be some ontological leapfrogging here... ;D

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« Reply #357 on: April 01, 2010, 12:52:47 AM »
trying[/i] to understand the Supreme Intelligence of Divine Providence.

No matter how much we try to comprehend and understand, we will never fully understand.

Even the scientific method, itself, by basis of standard, cannot 100% proove anything.

Merely, only debate and abate in statistical terms in the strength of its confidence interval; in defending a said theory/hypothesis.

Or nullification of said hypothesis/ theorem.



it looks like bai hubag is playing european football while lorenzo is playing on the ol’ banjo.

no matter how much i try to understand lorenzo, i will never fully understand.  but I can try by calling on my friend encarta.  (i’m not a scholar like him.)

debate and abate – as the two are paired here, it must mean to ponder carefully and to lessen the pondering

statistical terms – terms of numerical value

confidence interval – as interval is a period of time between one event and the next, it is safe to assume here that that there is a lapse of time between confidence and no-confidence

theory - can run the gamut from speculation to rules and techniques

hypothesis - is a theory needing investigation

theorem - is an idea accepted as true, or a provable proposition, or formula in mathematics or logic

in english, lorenzo thus could be saying something like:  “ponder carefully and lessen the pondering of the terms of numerical value in the strength of the lapse of time between confidence and no-confidence in defending technique and speculation that needs investigation.”

or nullification of said hypothesis/theorem could mean making invalid or bringing down to zero a theory that needs investigation and a mathematical formula or an idea that is accepted as true.

how groove can proove be, oh groovy proovy.


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« Reply #358 on: April 01, 2010, 01:36:27 AM »

In my personal belief and opinion Hubag, yes. It does. Because Genetics and Molecular Biology shows to us the ordered structure of the microscopic level as well as the organismal and the planetary level. Everything is ordered.

Who ordered it?

I leave that to the believer.

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In the end, its all a matter of faith. A leap of Faith.



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« Reply #359 on: April 01, 2010, 01:49:18 AM »
debate and abate [/i] – as the two are paired here, it must mean to ponder carefully and to lessen the pondering

statistical terms – terms of numerical value

confidence interval – as interval is a period of time between one event and the next, it is safe to assume here that that there is a lapse of time between confidence and no-confidence

theory - can run the gamut from speculation to rules and techniques

hypothesis - is a theory needing investigation

theorem - is an idea accepted as true, or a provable proposition, or formula in mathematics or logic

in english, lorenzo thus could be saying something like:  “ponder carefully and lessen the pondering of the terms of numerical value in the strength of the lapse of time between confidence and no-confidence in defending technique and speculation that needs investigation.”

or nullification of said hypothesis/theorem could mean making invalid or bringing down to zero a theory that needs investigation and a mathematical formula or an idea that is accepted as true.

how groove can proove be, oh groovy proovy.



Theories and laws can be changed, as much as Aristotle's old Scientific Law that there are 3 elements: fire, air, earth.
We now today know that these are not elements, but rather, composition of chemical and biochemical properties that are composed of multiple elements and isotopes.

A medical law and treatment of sickness in the days prior to the understanding of hemostasis and cardiac cycling was the old practice of 'Bleeding'. It was widely accepted and understood by scientists, medical professors and practicing physicians/surgeons in the 16th to the 19th century. That bleeding was necessary to remove the 'poisons of the body. This was largely dismissed when the breakthroughs of anatomy and understanding of hematology was acquired. That bleeding only potentiated the weakening of the already weakened individual.

Other Natural Laws that were considered and held to be true at that particular point of time in history, were in fact proven wrong. In later epochs. Such include:

Flat Earth Hypothesis
Phlogiston Theorem
Geocentric Theory of the Universe
Arisotle's Laws of Dynamic Motion
Newton's Law of Motion (were improved upon by Einstein, esp. on relativity)

Science is really is a constant improvement.



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