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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2008, 07:58:23 PM »



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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2008, 01:47:22 AM »
What is your personal interpretation of the saying,

"The Fear of God Includes a Full
Understanding of the Danger
and Consequences of Sin."


Please share your interjections, interpretation, argument etc.

Let's discuss!

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2008, 05:43:39 AM »
Is circumcision necessary for salvation? [/b]

Circumcision was part of God's covenant with Abraham and the Jews:

Genesis 17

10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner— those who are not your offspring.

Circumcision was an external sign of a spiritual relationship, which set the Jews apart from the rest of mankind as the chosen people of God. However, history showed that the Jewish people became more and more fixated to the external signs, statutes, and ceremonies rather than their inward spirituality. Of course, this tendency is not peculiar to the Jews but resonates to human nature in general. Rather than facing our frailties, we explain away our violative tendencies through legalism.

The dispensation of grace, as contrasted to that of law, ushered in by Christ in the New Testament restores the pre-eminence of our relationship to God in our practice of spirituality. For instance, Christ has redefined the legalistic frames of such common offenses as "adultery" and "murder." We commit adultery not only when we lie in bed with someone not our spouse but also when we look at another person with lust. We commit murder not only when we kill a person by intent but also when we harbor deep hatred in our hearts towards him.

Thus, as with the Jews, we can no longer use physical circumcision as a blanket affirmation of our belongingness to God. Note that even in the Old Testament, physical circumcision was meant to come together with circumcision of our hearts, as was commanded in Deuteronomy 10 and 30. Unless our hearts are marked as of God, it does not matter much if we are externally marked as God's people in circumcision. We cannot use religious appearances in place of real spirituality of the heart.

Paul preached this in his letter to the Romans:

Romans 2
29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

Therefore, physical circumcision is not a necessary and essential condition for salvation, but spiritual circumcision is.
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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2008, 02:44:55 AM »
Excellent answer, Tito Benne. I agree jud with you, Tito.


Let us proceed to the next question, which, in my opinion, will be one of great interest and research for us.

What are the Biblical titles and names given to Jesus?


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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2008, 02:55:34 AM »
The List of Titles that are Exalted Unto the Name of Jesus Christ, The Only Incarnate Son of the Eternal and Living GOD.




    * Adam 1Corinthians 15:45

    * Advocate 1John 2:1

    * Almighty Revelation 1:8

    * Alpha and Omega Revelation 1:8

    * Amen Revelation 3:14

    * Angel Genesis 48:16; Exodus 23:20, 21

    * Angel of his presence Isaiah 63:9

    * Anointed Psalms 2:2

    * Apostle Hebrews 3:1

    * Arm of the Lord Isaiah 51:9, 10

    * Author and Finisher of our faith Hebrews 12:2

    * Beginning and end of the creation of God Revelation 3:14; 22:13

    * Beloved Ephesians 1:6

    * Blessed and only Potentate 1Timothy 6:15

    * Branch Jeremiah 23:5; Zechariah 3:8

    * Bread of life John 6:48

    * Bridegroom Matthew 9:15

    * Bright and Morning Star Revelation 22:16

    * Brightness of the Father's glory Hebrews 1:3

    * Captain of Salvation Hebrews 2:10

    * Carpenter Mark 6:3

    * Carpenter's son Matthew 13:55

    * Chief Shepherd 1Peter 5:4

    * Chief Cornerstone 1Peter 2:6

    * Chiefest among ten thousand Song of Songs 5:10

    * Child Isaiah 9:6; Luke 2:27, 43

    * Chosen of God 1Peter 2:4

    * Christ Matthew 1:16; Luke 9:20

    * The Christ (Messiah) Matthew 16:20; Mark 14:61

    * Christ, a King Luke 23:2

    * Christ Jesus Acts 19:4; Romans 3:24; 8:1; 1Corinthians 1:2, 30; Hebrews 3:1; 1Peter 5:10, 14

    * Christ Jesus our Lord 1Timothy 1:12; Romans 8:39

    * Christ of God Luke 9:20

    * Christ, the chosen of God Luke 23:35

    * Christ the Lord Luke 2:11

    * Christ, the power of God 1Corinthians 1:24

    * Christ the wisdom of God 1Corinthians 1:24

    * Christ, the Son of God Acts 9:20

    * Christ, Son of the Blessed Mark 14:61

    * Commander Isaiah 55:4

    * Consolation of Israel Luke 2:25

    * Cornerstone Ephesians 2:20

    * Counselor Isaiah 9:6

    * Covenant of the people Isaiah 42:6

    * David Jeremiah 30:9

    * Daysman Job 9:33

    * Dayspring Luke 1:78

    * Day Star 2Peter 1:19

    * Deliverer Romans 11:26

    * Desire of all nations Haggai 2:7

    * Door, the John 10:7

    * Elect Isaiah 42:1

    * Emmanuel Isaiah 7:14

    * Ensign Isaiah 11:10

    * Eternal Life 1John 5:20

    * Everlasting Father Isaiah 9:6

    * Faithful and True Revelation 19:11

    * Faithful Witness, the Revelation 1:5

    * Faithful and true witness, the Revelation 3:14

    * Finisher of faith Hebrews 12:2

    * First and last Revelation 1:17; 2:8; 22:13

    * First begotten Hebrews 1:6

    * First begotten of the dead Revelation 1:5

    * Firstborn Psalms 89:27

    * Foundation Isaiah 28:16

    * Fountain Zechariah 13:1

    * Forerunner Hebrews 6:20

    * Friend of sinners Matthew 11:19

    * Gift of God John 4:10

    * Glory of Israel Luke 2:32

    * God (deity) John 1:1

    * God blessed forever Romans 9:5

    * God manifest in the flesh 1Timothy 3:16

    * God of Israel, the Saviour Isaiah 45:15

    * God of the whole earth Isaiah 54:5

    * God our Saviour 1Timothy 2:3

    * God's dear Son Colossians 1:13

    * God with us Matthew 1:23

    * Good Master Matthew 19:16

    * Governor Matthew 2:6

    * Great Shepherd of the sheep Hebrews 13:20

    * Head of the ekklesia (body) Ephesians 1:22, 23; 5:23; Colossians 1:18, 24

    * Heir of all things Hebrews 1:2

    * High priest Hebrews 4:14

    * Head of every man 1Corinthians 11:3

    * Head of the corner Matthew 21:42

    * Holy child Jesus Acts 4:30     (Reference to the Blessed Santo Nino; "The Holy Child")

    * Holy one of God Mark 1:24

    * Holy one of Israel Isaiah 41:14; 54:5

    * Holy thing Luke 1:35

    * Hope (our) 1Timothy 1:1

    * Horn of salvation Luke 1:69

    * I AM John 8:58

    * Image of God Hebrews 1:3

    * Israel Isaiah 49:3

    * Jehovah Isaiah 40:3

    * Jehovah's fellow Zechariah 13:7

    * Jesus Matthew 1:21

    * Jesus Christ Matthew 1:1; John 1:17; 17:3; Acts 2:38; 4:10; 9:34; 10:36; Romans 1:1, 16:18; 3, 6; 2:16; 5:15, 17; 6:3; 1Corinthians 1:1, 4; 2:2; 2Corinthians 1:19; 4:6; 13:5; Galatians 2:16; Philippians 1:8; 2:11; 1Timothy 1:15;

 Hebrews 13:8; 1John 1:7; 2:1

    * Jesus Christ our Lord Romans 1:3; 6:11, 23; 1Corinthians 1:9; 7:25

    * Jesus Christ our Saviour Titus 3:6

    * Jesus of Nazareth Mark 1:24; Luke 24:19

    * Jesus (of Nazareth), King of the Jews John 19:19; Matthew 27:37

    * Jesus, the Son of God Hebrews 4:14

    * Jesus, the Son of Joseph John 6:42

    * Judge Acts 10:42

    * Just man, Just person, Just One Matthew 27:19, 24; Acts 3:14; 7:52; 22:14

    * King Matthew 21:5

    * King of Israel John 1:49

    * King of the Jews Matthew 2:2

    * King of Saints Revelation 15:3

    * King of Kings 1Timothy 6:15; Revelation 17:14

    * King of Glory Psalms 24:7-10

    * King of Zion Matthew 21:5

    * King over all the earth Zechariah 14:9

    * Lamb Revelation 5:6, 8; 7:9, 6:16; 10, 17; 12:11; 13:8, 11; 14:1, 4; 15:3; 17:14; 21:9, 14, 22, 19:7, 9; 23, 27

    * Lamb of God John 1:29

    * Lawgiver Isaiah 33:22

    * Leader Isaiah 55:4

    * Life John 14:6

    * Light John 8:12

    * Light, everlasting Isaiah 60:20

    * Light of the world John 8:12

    * Light to the Gentiles Isaiah 42:6

    * Light, true John 1:9

    * Living Bread, the John 6:51

    * Living Stone 1Peter 2:4

    * Lion of the tribe of Judah Revelation 5:5

    * Lord Romans 1:3

    * Lord of Lords Revelation 17:14; 19:16

    * Lord of all Acts 10:36

    * Lord our righteousness Jeremiah 23:6

    * Lord God Almighty Revelation 15:3

    * Lord from heaven 1Corinthians 15:47

    * Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ 2Peter 1:11; 3:18

    * Lord Christ Colossians 3:24

    * Lord Jesus Acts 7:59; Colossians 3:17; 1Thessalonians 4:12

    * Lord Jesus Christ Acts 11:17; 16:31; 20:21; Romans 5:1, 11; 13:14

    * Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour Titus 1:4

    * Lord of glory James 2:1

    * Lord of Hosts (armies) Isaiah 44:6

    * Lord, mighty in battle Psalms 24:8

    * Lord of the dead and living Romans 14:9

    * Lord of the sabbath Mark 2:28

    * Lord over all Romans 10:12

    * Lord's Christ Luke 2:26

    * Lord, strong and mighty Psalms 24:8

    * Lord, the, our righteousness Jeremiah 23:6

    * Lord, your holy one Isaiah 43:15

    * Lord, your redeemer Isaiah 43:14

    * Man Christ Jesus 1Timothy 2:5

    * Man of sorrows Isaiah 53:3

    * Master Matthew 23:8

    * Mediator, the only 1Timothy 2:5

    * Messenger of the covenant Malachi 3:1

    * Messiah John 1:41

    * Messiah the Prince Daniel 9:25

    * Mighty God Isaiah 9:6

    * Mighty one of Israel Isaiah 30:29

    * Mighty one of Jacob Isaiah 49:26

    * Mighty to save Isaiah 63:1

    * Minister of the sanctuary Hebrews 8:2

    * Morning Star Revelation 22:16

    * Most holy Daniel 9:24

    * Most mighty Psalms 45:3

    * Nazarene Matthew 2:23

    * Offspring of David Revelation 22:16

    * Only begotten (Greek monogenes: one and only, unique) John 3:16

    * Only begotten (Greek monogenes: one and only, unique) of the Father John 1:14

    * Only begotten (Greek monogenes: one and only, unique) Son (the best mss. have "God" instead of "Son" here) John 1:18

    * Only wise God, our Saviour Jude 1:25

    * Overseer 1Peter 2:25

    * Passover, our 1Corinthians 5:7

    * Plant of renown Ezekiel 34:29

    * Potentate 1Timothy 6:15

    * Power of God 1Corinthians 1:24

    * Physician Matthew 9:12

    * Precious Cornerstone Isaiah 28:16

    * Priest Hebrews 7:17

    * Prince Acts 5:31

    * Prince of Life Acts 3:15

    * Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6

    * Prince of the kings of the earth Revelation 1:5

    * Prophet Deuteronomy 18:15, 18; Matthew 21:11; Luke 24:19

    * Propitiation (expiation, our Sin-offering) 1John 2:2

    * Rabbi, Rabboni John 1:49; 20:16

    * Ransom 1Timothy 2:6

    * Redeemer Isaiah 59:20

    * Resurrection and the Life, the John 11:25

    * Redemption 1Corinthians 1:30

    * Righteous Branch Jeremiah 23:5

    * Righteous Judge 2Timothy 4:8

    * Righteous Servant Isaiah 53:11

    * Righteousness 1Corinthians 1:30

    * Rock 1Corinthians 10:4

    * Rock of Offence 1Peter 2:8

    * Root of David Revelation 5:5; 22:16

    * Root of Jesse Isaiah 11:10

    * Rose of Sharon Song of Songs 2:1

    * Ruler in Israel Micah 5:2

    * Salvation Luke 2:30

    * Sanctification 1Corinthians 1:30

    * Sanctuary Isaiah 8:14

    * Saviour Luke 2:11

    * Saviour, Jesus Christ 2Timothy 1:10; Titus 2:13; 2Peter 1:1

    * Saviour of the body (ekklesia) Ephesians 5:23

    * Saviour of the world 1John 4:14

    * Sceptre Numbers 24:17

    * Second Man, the 1Corinthians 15:47

    * Seed of David 2Timothy 2:8

    * Seed of the woman Genesis 3:15

    * Servant Isaiah 42:1

    * Servant of rulers Isaiah 49:7

    * Shepherd Mark 14:27

    * Shepherd and Overseer of souls 1Peter 2:25

    * Shepherd, Chief 1Peter 5:4

    * Shepherd, Good John 10:11

    * Shepherd, Great Hebrews 13:20

    * Shepherd of Israel Psalms 80:1

    * Shiloh Genesis 49:10

    * Son of the Father 2John 1:3

    * Son of God,

    * Son of Man,

    * Son of the Blessed One (God) Mark 14:61

    * Son of the Highest One (God) Luke 1:32

    * Son of David Matthew 9:27

    * Star Numbers 24:17

    * Sun of Righteousness Malachi 4:2

    * Surety (Guarantee) Hebrews 7:22

    * Stone Matthew 21:42

    * Stone of Stumbling 1Peter 2:8

    * Sure Foundation Isaiah 28:16

    * Teacher John 3:2

    * True God 1John 5:20

    * True Vine John 15:1

    * Truth John 14:6


    * Unspeakable Gift 2Corinthians 9:15

    * Very Christ Acts 9:22

    * Vine, the John 15:1

    * Way, the John 14:6

    * Which is, which was, which is to come (equivalent to the tetragrammaton (YHWH), the Eternal One, I AM THAT I AM) Revelation 1:4

    * Wisdom Proverbs 8:12

    * Wisdom of God, the 1Corinthians 1:24

    * Witness Isaiah 55:4; Revelation 1:5

    * Wonderful Isaiah 9:6

    * Word John 1:1

    * Word of God Revelation 19:13

    * Word of Life 1John 1:1




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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2008, 03:12:31 AM »
Genesis 17[/b]

10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner— those who are not your offspring.

Circumcision was an external sign of a spiritual relationship, which set the Jews apart from the rest of mankind as the chosen people of God. However, history showed that the Jewish people became more and more fixated to the external signs, statutes, and ceremonies rather than their inward spirituality. Of course, this tendency is not peculiar to the Jews but resonates to human nature in general. Rather than facing our frailties, we explain away our violative tendencies through legalism.

The dispensation of grace, as contrasted to that of law, ushered in by Christ in the New Testament restores the pre-eminence of our relationship to God in our practice of spirituality. For instance, Christ has redefined the legalistic frames of such common offenses as "adultery" and "murder." We commit adultery not only when we lie in bed with someone not our spouse but also when we look at another person with lust. We commit murder not only when we kill a person by intent but also when we harbor deep hatred in our hearts towards him.

Thus, as with the Jews, we can no longer use physical circumcision as a blanket affirmation of our belongingness to God. Note that even in the Old Testament, physical circumcision was meant to come together with circumcision of our hearts, as was commanded in Deuteronomy 10 and 30. Unless our hearts are marked as of God, it does not matter much if we are externally marked as God's people in circumcision. We cannot use religious appearances in place of real spirituality of the heart.

Paul preached this in his letter to the Romans:

Romans 2
29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

Therefore, physical circumcision is not a necessary and essential condition for salvation, but spiritual circumcision is.



Most French are not circumcized, so far sa akong na kulokadidang! hahahha duha ra noon (im not kidding i dont want to be hypocrite here) and yet French are very catholic. So did they missed that part of the bible?

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2008, 10:06:38 AM »
I never knew that, 'te. Very interesting indeed; new information jud ni for me.


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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2008, 07:28:26 PM »


Dong Lorenzo, OT (Off-topic) sa ko from OT (Old Testament) Can't help but notice Belle look like French royalty in her new avatar. Unsay pasabot sa kulokadidang? Murag colorful kaayo ni nga lingwahe.

As Antoine de Saint Exupéry once said, "What is essential is invisible to the eye." So it is not the physical circumcision that you can see (even in the dark, Belle?) which matters to God, but circumcision of the heart--that is, setting oneself apart to be of Him and serve Him.

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2008, 07:44:22 PM »
B,  dire sa most part sa Europe, at least in the nordic countries wa man ipractise ang circumcision or tuli.

pero tuli or wa parehas raman na sila kalami. Aw mora pod ug daghan ko natilawan. ha..ha..

bitaw..depende raman na sa laki kon hinloan or dili.:-))
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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2008, 07:49:20 PM »

Korek da Bins. To reiterate : what has tuli got to do with GOD?
hasta  man gani pari dire way tuli. ha.ha..ha..ha..


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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2008, 07:52:44 PM »
Dong Bran,

No offense meant pero di nako maget nang tanang nakasulat sa Old testament, because the fact that is it hard to fathom for normal people like us,
 I find some of its content inconsistent with the worlds present reality.


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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2008, 08:26:54 PM »

Yes Bayat you are right as what Ms Asianfairy also commented.  Most of the Europians are not circumcized....it took me a lot of time to find the "Tinuli" one...well, am lucky and happy to enjoy GOD's order? Love will accept all orders....circumcized or not!   Well, tinuli ug dili way gjod ang Diyos ani gipili, di ba? Mag-unsa kod ka ug tinuli ang  tawo unja rapist diay? Di....barbequhon lang gihapon siya sa imperno, di ba? Mao gani nga dili gjod ko mobasa ug Bible kay basin ug nagsobra na ring ahong mga mortal sins. By the way, the muslims woman at young age "tilanggon"  man is this just similar to tuli?...sus...maajo gani kay dili pod tang mga Katoliko nga babaye ipatilang...Haskang pangita na kay kuhaon ang pitiw unja mao raba nay "G" point...unsaon nalang? :'( Pastilan....

Si Benelynne,   I think what Bayat meant for "kulokadidang" kadton iyang gi-iring2x sa una nga young French man....or :-\ di ba Bayat? Apir diha!

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2008, 08:41:49 PM »

OH Asianfairy you are so cute! whahahahaha    ;D  Wala bitaw  gipili ang atong Ginoo ug pisot ba o tinuli parehas ra ni sa virgin o dugay na bang nangabunggi...sa mata sa Diyos tawo tang tanan mga makasasala, di ba? Depende ra sa atong binuhatan dinhi sa kalibutan. Unsa man motilaw tag daghan b4 it is too late?  Haskang paita siguro if God will ask : O unsa Bambina kinsay imong "gikukalidang" sa buhi kapa tinuli ba o dili?  Ug Pisot additional sin na unja pod...hala mga gurls hulinga ug una before committing a mortal sin.  ;)

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Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2008, 09:31:02 PM »
ms. Bambi bahakhak gyod ko usara dire ron katawa. LOL!!!

Ganahan ko tinood nimo kay very practical gyod ka nga pagka tawo. I just love you so dear Bambi.

Sus tinood na zamo. unsaon nato nang tinuli pod unya di diay mogahi? ha,.,.ha..hala ka X-rated naman diay ko ani. ha..ha...

Miss chatting to you Ms. Bams. Dia pamis Denmark hangtod ron. Mosuroy unta mis Legoland rong adlawa pero nagbunok ulan mao dia mis hotel nagtikongkong. Good that i have my laptop and can connect to TB anytime.
How was your Paris trip? very romantic, I presume. :D
Kram!

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2008, 09:33:39 PM »

Looy bitaw ni silang mga muslim baye no? sus wala nila mafeel kon unsa ang mahilangit.
It is very wrong practise. Pero nagsugod na baya pod sila ug kahigmata ..


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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2008, 09:35:57 PM »
Ms da Bins naibog ko nimo kay naka kulukadidang na diay ka ug French. Mga caring ra ba na sila. :-))



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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2008, 10:33:30 PM »

Dong Enzo, kaning imong mga pupils gipulihan imong kurikulum ug kulukadidang. Balik ta sa kumsisyon...
Bible study baja ni...

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2008, 11:09:31 PM »
Sir thanks for reminding us nga bible study man diay subject ani.
kini man god si da Bins:-))


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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2008, 11:14:51 PM »
bwahahahha

karon pa ko kaukab ani ug usab haskang katawa naho diri! hahahha

sus ma bughat jud ni ahong inibtan ug ngipon karon!

hahhahahhahha

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Re: Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2008, 11:17:33 PM »

Welcome man kaajo commercial break, mas bibo man hinuon when real issues are raised vis-a-vis Biblical teaching. Am sure Dong Enzo is broad-minded regarding these matters.



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