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Re: Islam
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2007, 01:18:37 PM »
"All that is needed for evil to succeed is, that decent human beings doing nothing". (Edmund Burke)

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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2007, 08:22:42 PM »
You're just too young too feel that damn old :)

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Re: Islam
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2007, 10:02:25 PM »

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Re: Islam
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2007, 10:04:09 PM »
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Re: Islam
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2008, 02:59:58 AM »
update:

Muslims "Overtake" Catholics, Become Largest Religion

Allessandra Rizzo in Vatican City
Associated Press
March 31, 2008

Islam has surpassed Roman Catholicism as the world's largest religion, the Vatican newspaper said Sunday.

"For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims have overtaken us," Monsignor Vittorio Formenti said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. Formenti compiles the Vatican's yearbook.

Catholics are holding steady at about 17.4 percent of the world population, he said.

Muslims are now at 19.2 percent, according to data from 2006, he added.

(Related: "Islam Expanding Globally, Adapting Locally" [October 24, 2003].)

Bigger Families

"It is true that while Muslim families, as is well known, continue to make a lot of children, Christian ones on the contrary tend to have fewer and fewer," the monsignor said.

Muslim countries compiled the figures on Muslims and then provided them to the United Nations, he said, adding that the Vatican could vouch only for its own data.

Christians overall—including Catholic Christians—make up 33 percent of the world population, Formenti said.

Spokespeople for the Vatican and the United Nations did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment Sunday.

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Re: Islam
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2008, 03:02:56 AM »
Islam is a growing faith here in the 'states. Many are converting to Islam from Hinduism, Buddhism and even Christianity.



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Re: Islam
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2008, 03:05:09 AM »
why is that? it makes me sad.,

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Re: Islam
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2008, 03:06:50 AM »
the quran has the most vivid description on the life story of mary.  i love reading quran, buddha's philosphy, the Bible, The book of mormon... and other religious materials.

but for me, it's a matter of personal relationship with the Creator, the Infinite Intelligence, the Great Source of Life, the Protectort, the Provider...

am also worhsipping the Mother Goddess (also the other identity of the Lord)..since God has no sex at all. He/she...but we could not avoid to use He for God/Lord ....the two must go together...

am freethinker and I don't believe in dogmas, etc... but when I die, I have the assurance to go to Heaven. The Lord and the angels will welcome me.



I love talking with Muslims here on campus in reference to the Day of Judgment. Theirs is very colorful.

Just the other day my friend Hussein was praying outside of our apartment complex on the grass while facing Mecca. I couldn't help but listen to his prayers, the way he ushers the Bismallah is so sweet to the ears. 5 times a day he prays outside. Doesn't care if people look at him or not. That, to me, is a man of faith.

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Re: Islam
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2008, 03:08:59 AM »
lors. kana mga terrorist nga muslim it's more like they don't know much about the quran hinuon.. they are the result of ignorance..  correct me if im wrong

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Re: Islam
« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2008, 03:18:54 AM »
why is that? it makes me sad.,

Probably because Islam provides a better answer for them.

For me, I believe that Christianity, Judaism and Islam are brothers in Faith. We are all abrahamic people, all come from the same tree. Who is Prophet Abraham (Ibrahim for the Muslims). We christians and jews differ in that we come from Isaac and the Muslims come from the line of Ishmael (though both were children of Abraham.)

And again he said: I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, and it shall not be numbered for multitude.  And again: Behold, said he, thou art with child, and thou shalt bring forth a son: and thou shalt call his name Ismael, because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. He shall be a wild man: his hand will be against all men, and all men's hands against him: and he shall pitch his tents over against all his brethren. And she called the name of the Lord that spoke unto her: Thou the God who hast seen me. For she said: Verily, here have I seen the hinder parts of him that seeth me.
-Genesis Chapter 17-

And as for Ismael I have also heard thee. Behold, I will bless him, and increase, and multiply him exceedingly: he shall beget twelve chiefs, and I will make him a great nation.  But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sara shall bring forth to thee at this time in the next year.  And when he had left off speaking with him, God went up from Abraham.
-Genesis Chapter 17-


As we see, Ismael and Isaac were both blessed by the Lord, though the Lord made the covenant with Abraham through Isaac. Judaism traces itself to Isaac and Christianity traces itself to its Jewish roots. Whereas Islam traces its roots (Mohammad in the Q'uran claims to be the descendant of Ismael) to Ismael.





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Re: Islam
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2008, 03:24:42 AM »
lors. kana mga terrorist nga muslim it's more like they don't know much about the quran hinuon.. they are the result of ignorance..  correct me if im wrong

Exactly, Kiams.

I asked Hussein about this as well. These terrorists are using the religion of Islam, which is peaceful in its purest form, for a political agenda. There are terrorists that kill Sunni pilgrims and Shii pilgrims in order to have war with each other. They twist and distort the words of the Q'uran, which is a part of the Truth.

I have read the Q'uran, Kiams. Theirs is almost the repitition of the Holy Bible. All of the prophets in the Bible they recognize and call as prophets, the teachings of the Talmud, the old testament and the new testament is included in the Q'uran.

The only difference is that they don't recognize Christ Jesus (Issa) as  the Son of God, but view him as a Great Prophet. In the Judgement Day in the Q'uran, the prophet Issa (Jesus) will come and judge the living and the dead. Just the way as our Holy Bible indicates in Revelations.

There is a specific verse in the Q'uran that refers to Christians and Jews as "People of the Book" and Mohammad himself tells his followers to treat the People of the Book with respect and care. Do not kill or plague them.

It is a shame, that there are extremists that ruin the true teachings. The same way as there are extremist Christians who distort the meaning of the Bible for their own selfish and destructive means.

You are right, Kiams. Those who kill in the name of God do not know God.

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Re: Islam
« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2008, 03:31:24 AM »
lors. kana mga terrorist nga muslim it's more like they don't know much about the quran hinuon.. they are the result of ignorance..  correct me if im wrong

they know much about quran yet they have a one sided view of their beliefs...believing islam is the only true religion and everything against islam must perish

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« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2008, 03:40:11 AM »
They commit haram by killing. God does not condone killing, only in defense of your faith. But these extremists do not defend, they are searching to kill, to instill wrath on others not because of faith.

Allah did not tell them to bomb jewish schools, Allah did not tell them to bomb and snipe American women. Allah did not tell them hijack a civilian plane and crash them into the twin towers and kill 3,000 innocents.

These people sought to hurt and attack. They did not defend, but offend.

What makes these men dangerous is that they use the face of religion for a political agenda.

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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2008, 03:55:30 AM »
mao jud. they hide behind their wrong interpretation of quran

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« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2008, 04:09:17 AM »
The devil distorts the faith of many. He plays with the minds of men and mutates them to do evil instead of good. Destruction instead of peace, hate instead of love.

For the Lord God is Love.
Faith, Truth and Love. But of the three, Love is greatest.

It is in the blind hatred of terrorists that they perverse the teachings of the Q'uran.
To suit the teachings to their own interpretations.
To suit their own agenda, not that of the Lord.

And this is not only seen for muslims. There are extremist Christians out there who preach hate.
For example is the Westboro Baptist Church. It teaches the damnation of all besides themselves. In their twisted and perverted interpretation of scripture, they forget New Testament but utilize references from the Old Testament in reference to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. They hate American soldiers, orthodox, catholics, orthodox protestants, jews, etc.

This is where I am against this sense of loose-interpretation of scripture.
They have forgotten the true meanings of scripture, that is why it is important not to forget Christian tradition with scripture. The true meaning must never be cast aside.



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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2008, 03:00:15 PM »
Muslims said that Jesus was a Muslim because the message of the angel in Luke 2: 14 "Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace, good will to men ". The message was ' peace' or salam in Islam. The word Islam comes  from the word salam which mean peace.

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« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2008, 08:09:59 PM »
@fdaray.. na unsa pa pud na nga interpretation nila uy

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« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2008, 04:36:06 PM »
Jesus Christ was not a muslim, nor was he a christian.

Christ Jesus was a Jew.

There are specific references to this, namely,
Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matt. 1:1)
-It is important to note that David was a selected King of the Jews, and Abraham was the one who was selected by teh Father; and was given an covenant with him. Abraham is the father of the Jewish people.

In addition, Yeshua was born King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2). The King of the Jews must Himself be Jewish (Deut. 17:15). His aunt Elizabeth was Jewish (a descendant of Aaron, Moses' brother) and His uncle Zacharia was a Jewish priest (Luke 1:5, 36). Yeshua was circumcised according to Jewish law (Luke 2:21, Lev. 12:2-3), and redeemed according to Jewish law (Luke 2:22-23, Num. 18:15). His mother atoned according to Jewish law (Luke 2:24, Lev. 12:6-8). He is called The Consolation of Israel (Luke 2:25) and The Glory of Thy People Israel (Luke 2:32). Jesus was born a Jew.





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« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2008, 04:43:55 PM »
i watche a thread here..katong most shocking documentary film ever..
it scared me

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« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2008, 04:45:08 PM »
What was it called diay, Bems?

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