Author Topic: Give Nothing To Dogs (Read 4061 times)

Lorenzo · « **on:** April 25, 2010, 02:31:55 PM »

Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2010, 02:32:51 PM »

2 Peter 2:22

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2010, 02:32:58 AM »

karon ang mga dogs mas palangga na sa mga katawhan! i wonder kon kaning bible was written this time? nga sigi i example ang mga animals as bad! ngeeek!

for me the bible have lot of discrepancies like the phrase mentioned above. sorry.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2010, 05:48:41 AM »

This is to be taken in symbolic reference, Ms Da Binsi, dogs and swine, is referring not to animals, but to wicked individuals.

Dogs in this case and swine are those who are backbiters, those who talk about other people behind their back, and continue and proliferate heresays and falsities. This verse tells us not to give honors to those who are wicked to us, as they will mitigate everything.

It is essential when reading the bible, you read it in groups as well as with a theologist or those who are more profound in scriptural interpretation and message.

You asked a good question, and made a good point, however, this verse is to be taken symbolically.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2010, 10:47:38 AM »

This is to be taken in symbolic reference, Ms Da Binsi, dogs and swine, is referring not to animals, but to wicked individuals.

Dogs in this case and swine are those who are backbiters, those who talk about other people behind their back, and continue and proliferate heresays and falsities. This verse tells us not to give honors to those who are wicked to us, as they will mitigate everything.

It is essential when reading the bible, you read it in groups as well as with a theologist or those who are more profound in scriptural interpretation and message.

You asked a good question, and made a good point, however, this verse is to be taken symbolically.

you didnt get what i mean! why use these animals for symbols? if they are gods creations?

swine for backbiters? it is way too far of a symbol!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2010, 11:57:11 AM »

swine for backbiters? it is way too far of a symbol!

"Come, bite my back..."

www.evenfallrestaurant.com

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2010, 12:10:25 PM »

"Come, bite my back..."

www.evenfallrestaurant.com

wahahaha! now i know what that means!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2010, 01:06:51 PM »

karon ang mga dogs mas palangga na sa mga katawhan! i wonder kon kaning bible was written this time? nga sigi i example ang mga animals as bad! ngeeek!

for me the bible have lot of discrepancies like the phrase mentioned above. sorry.

Man's best friend...

www.petyourdog.com

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2010, 01:19:51 PM »

Man's best friend...

www.petyourdog.com

ang nag suwat ana nga verse

kay mean to animals jud!!!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2010, 01:26:18 PM »

ang nag suwat ana nga verse

kay mean to animals jud!!!

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Those were apparently unenlightened times.

By the way, some dogs, like this one, are way much more decent and better looking than some humans I know...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2010, 01:29:54 PM »

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Those were apparently unenlightened times.

By the way, some dogs, like this one, are way much more decent and better looking than some humans I know...

bitaw!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2010, 05:54:25 AM »

you didnt get what i mean! why use these animals for symbols? if they are gods creations?

swine for backbiters? it is way too far of a symbol!

It is in symbolic reference, actually, considering the fact that dogs and swine (pigs) are considered unclean animals in Judaism and in the Old Testament. The contemporary Christian may no longer subscribe to the notion of the uncleanliness of dogs and swine, as Christ was considered as the purification of the Law. However, in all case and purposes, the refrence to Dogs and Swine is clearly indicating to backbiters, heresayers, and gossipers.

Swine is used because it refers to those who profess the faith, but at the minute will denounce the teachings and the faith that was given to them (a hypocrit believer).

Dogs and swine were Jewish terms of contempt for Gentiles. This saying may originally have derived from a Jewish Christian community opposed to preaching the gospel (what is holy, pearls) to Gentiles. In the light of Matthew 28:19 that can hardly be Matthew's meaning. He may have taken the saying as applying to a Christian dealing with an obstinately impenitent fellow Christian (Matthew 18:17).

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:00:34 AM »

I hope that clears it up; and no this biblical verse, to answer Ms Da Binsi, is not literally professing antagonism to dogs, but in symbolic to individuals that are crass, and talk ill to those of the faith.

I hope that helps.

God Bless.

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alycxs · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:05:58 AM »

Time will teach you all things, all you have to do is listen. When I was younger, I always end up in a heated debate or an argument over some point of view. Now, its recreation or if its not that important, I leave things be.

Nganong magproblema man ko sa dili nako problema. Ug walay mawala nako, ug walay masakitan...KIVER KIVER KIVER !!! hehehe !

speaking of dogs....mas buotan pa ang mga iro kaysa sa ubang tawng nga sobra ra pagkahilabtanon. Live and let live...

on that note, magluto sa ko panihapon for me and my dogs

mag share mi sa atay sa manok..luod naman ug maabtan pa ug ugma, so ilahon nalang nang sobra nako.

1 can pineapple + 1 lb chicken liver = Happy Ging2, Huck dog and Hardydog

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:35:16 AM »

Time will teach you all things, all you have to do is listen. When I was younger, I always end up in a heated debate or an argument over some point of view. Now, its recreation or if its not that important, I leave things be.

Nganong magproblema man ko sa dili nako problema. Ug walay mawala nako, ug walay masakitan...KIVER KIVER KIVER !!! hehehe !

speaking of dogs....mas buotan pa ang mga iro kaysa sa ubang tawng nga sobra ra pagkahilabtanon. Live and let live...

on that note, magluto sa ko panihapon for me and my dogs

mag share mi sa atay sa manok..luod naman ug maabtan pa ug ugma, so ilahon nalang nang sobra nako.

1 can pineapple + 1 lb chicken liver = Happy Ging2, Huck dog and Hardydog

Yes, that is very true. And more the reason why this verse comes to mind.
Let us not give pearls to swine, meaning ani, don't give honors or mind those who you know will only talk ill about you. It is best not to give them honors, as they will denounce you as they will denounce the very fabric of faith that they are supposed to be in. Live and let live.

Or in contemporary terms; do with what you may, knowing that you do good and mean good for those around you, despite the ill others say about you. Mao ni ang meaning sa "sleeping at peace at night". Sound mind. Sound faith. Firm resolution.

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That said, make sure you add potatoes and green peppers to your chicken and chicken liver.

My dog (kaiser) loves chicken liver n beef liver galing. Cooked, that is. ha ha.

Thanks for your input, Alcyx

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:58:38 AM »

To all the dog-lovers out there, we are not talking and literally demeaning the dogs. oh no!
I myself am a dog lover, and a dog owner. A German Sheppard.

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That said, one has to read in between the lines when you read the bible. Or at least ask frequent questions when studying it. Its okay to ask questions, its okay to make remarks. Sige, peace to all!

One Love~~

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alycxs · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:52:12 AM »

That said, make sure you add potatoes and green peppers to your chicken and chicken liver.

My dog (kaiser) loves chicken liver n beef liver galing. Cooked, that is. ha ha.

Thanks for your input, Alcyx

my liver adobo is only a can of pineapple and chicken liver, simmer for the next 30 minutes or until mauga gamay ang pineapple juice. I'll try the green peppers next time. :-)

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alycxs · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:53:50 AM »

these days I catch myself telling my mom and my friends

"Sus, pasagdi na sila, dili na silay mobayad sa imong botox kung magka wrinkles ka tungod nila. Dli sad sila mopalit ug lunesta kung mawad-an ka ug tulog...ug ma high blood ka, dli bya sila manglibre ug lipitor" hehehe !

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:03:36 AM »

my liver adobo is only a can of pineapple and chicken liver, simmer for the next 30 minutes or until mauga gamay ang pineapple juice. I'll try the green peppers next time. :-)

Here is the biochemistry of the additives:

1. The green peppers adds the beta carotene to your Iron-rich liver(chicken), which is effective and healthy for the eyes, especially for your rods and cones (great for night vision!)

2. When you add the potatoes, its rich in starch and carbs, and will absorb the irony taste of the liver, thereby mitigating and appeasing the flavor, and adds in a richy sauce when the potatoe begins to cook and mash up.

3. I also add in onions, so as to add flavor.

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Additionals:

a. Black pepper
b. White pepper
c. a tad bit of curry powder (not so much, we're not going bombay mode here, ha ha)
d. a little bit of brown sugar (a teaspoon's worth)

then add in a little of soy sauce (not so much as it leads to excessive sodium reabsorption and increases pre-load; for those who are hypertensive and pre-hypertensive, this is a no-no!, lol!
Add a little bit of vinegar (or what i do, i use lemon juice! citrus flavor is great; plus a great source of ascorbic acid!)

And wala!

Enjoy!@~

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:05:48 AM »

these days I catch myself telling my mom and my friends

"Sus, pasagdi na sila, dili na silay mobayad sa imong botox kung magka wrinkles ka tungod nila. Dli sad sila mopalit ug lunesta kung mawad-an ka ug tulog...ug ma high blood ka, dli bya sila manglibre ug lipitor" hehehe !

What a wise woman you are, my friend! Wise and beautiful (please accept my compliment, as God is kind to you in giving you beauty (brains and appearance). Your husband is lucky!

To comment to your post; that is true. I had to tell my girlfriend the same thing as she is a 1st year medical student and dealing with jealous individuals and giving her a hard time. I had to tell her "Don't worry about them, let them talk as much as they want, you have to focus on studies and getting good grades. They are jealous and talk ill about you because you are beyond their expectations; the envious soul will hate what it cannot compare to. Just focus."

Forward!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:12:13 AM »

Ingna pood, "dili baja sila mo palit ug calcium channel blocker, ace inhibitor, thiazide diuretics! so ajaw pag worry dinha! ikaw ra man ma sakitan."

True tho.

PS. I take it you are in the medical field?

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alycxs · « **Reply #21 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:21:07 AM »

Thanks Lorenzo, you're too kind.

Glace, I think Lorenzo is but I'm not, I'm the exception to the family of nurses, doctors and seamen. I am an accountant turned realtor...but hardcore gardener.

unya ra, I'll put together pics of my garden then i'll post a link. Its not as fabulous as some professional gardens, backyard garden lang ning ako, but what I do have, mamulak man sad.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #22 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:38:01 AM »

Thanks Lorenzo, you're too kind.

Glace, I think Lorenzo is but I'm not, I'm the exception to the family of nurses, doctors and seamen. I am an accountant turned realtor...but hardcore gardener.

unya ra, I'll put together pics of my garden then i'll post a link. Its not as fabulous as some professional gardens, backyard garden lang ning ako, but what I do have, mamulak man sad.

hahaha! we'll be waiting to see more pictures of your garden. Good to see another person with a green thumb!

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2012, 11:03:02 AM »

Mapasalamaton gihapon si doggie...

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