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Forgiveness
« on: January 03, 2009, 08:56:17 PM »
" Forgive all who have offended you, not for them, but for yourself. "  Harriet Nelson

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2009, 09:05:31 PM »
This is the hardest of all the virtues!

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 09:22:30 PM »
What is forgiveness?
There's no one definition of forgiveness. But in general, forgiveness is a decision to let go of resentments and thoughts of revenge. Forgiveness is the act of untying yourself from thoughts and feelings that bind you to the offense committed against you. This can reduce the power these feelings otherwise have over you, so that you can a live freer and happier life in the present. Forgiveness can even lead to feelings of understanding, empathy and compassion for the one who hurt you.
What are the benefits of forgiving someone?
Researchers have recently become interested in studying the effects of being unforgiving and being forgiving. Evidence is mounting that holding on to grudges and bitterness results in long-term health problems. Forgiveness, on the other hand, offers numerous benefits, including:
·   Lower blood pressure
·   Stress reduction
·   Less hostility
·   Better anger management skills
·   Lower heart rate
·   Lower risk of alcohol or substance abuse
·   Fewer depression symptoms
·   Fewer anxiety symptoms
·   Reduction in chronic pain
·   More friendships
·   Healthier relationships
·   Greater religious or spiritual well-being
·   Improved psychological well-being
Why do we hold grudges and become resentful and unforgiving?
The people most likely to hurt us are those closest to us — our partners, friends, siblings and parents. When we're hurt by someone we love and trust — whether it's a lie, betrayal, rejection, abuse or insult — it can be extremely difficult to overcome. And even minor offenses can turn into huge conflicts.
When you experience hurt or harm from someone's actions or words, whether this is intended or not, you may begin experiencing negative feelings such as anger, confusion or sadness, especially when it's someone close to you. These feelings may start out small. But if you don't deal with them quickly, they can grow bigger and more powerful. They may even begin to crowd out positive feelings. Grudges filled with resentment, vengeance and hostility take root when you dwell on hurtful events or situations, replaying them in your mind many times.
Soon, you may find yourself swallowed up by your own bitterness or sense of injustice. You may feel trapped and may not see a way out. It's very hard to let go of grudges at this point and instead you may remain resentful and unforgiving.
How do I know it's time to try to embrace forgiveness?
When we hold on to pain, old grudges, bitterness and even hatred, many areas of our lives can suffer. When we're unforgiving, it's we who pay the price over and over. We may bring our anger and bitterness into every relationship and new experience. Our lives may be so wrapped up in the wrong that we can't enjoy the present. Other signs that it may be time to consider forgiveness include:
·   Dwelling on the events surrounding the offense
·   Hearing from others that you have a chip on your shoulder or that you're wallowing in self-pity
·   Being avoided by family and friends because they don't enjoy being around you
·   Having angry outbursts at the smallest perceived slights
·   Often feeling misunderstood
·   Drinking excessively, smoking or using drugs to try to cope with your pain
·   Having symptoms of depression or anxiety
·   Being consumed by a desire for revenge or punishment
·   Automatically thinking the worst about people or situations
·   Regretting the loss of a valued relationship
·   Feeling like your life lacks meaning or purpose
·   Feeling at odds with your religious or spiritual beliefs
The bottom line is that you may often feel miserable in your current life.
How do I reach a state of forgiveness?
Forgiveness is a commitment to a process of change. It can be difficult and it can take time. Everyone moves toward forgiveness a little differently. One step is to recognize the value of forgiveness and its importance in our lives at a given time. Another is to reflect on the facts of the situation, how we've reacted, and how this combination has affected our lives, our health and our well-being. Then, as we are ready, we can actively choose to forgive the one who has offended us. In this way, we move away from our role as a victim and release the control and power the offending person and situation have had in our lives.
Forgiveness also means that we change old patterns of beliefs and actions that are driven by our bitterness. As we let go of grudges, we'll no longer define our lives by how we've been hurt, and we may even find compassion and understanding.
What happens if I can't forgive someone?
Forgiveness can be very challenging. It may be particularly hard to forgive someone who doesn't admit wrong or doesn't speak of their sorrow. Keep in mind that the key benefits of forgiveness are for you. If you find yourself stuck, it may be helpful to take some time to talk with a person you've found to be wise and compassionate, such as a spiritual leader, a mental health provider or an unbiased family member or friend.
It may also be helpful to reflect on times you've hurt others and on those who have forgiven you. As you recall how you felt, it may help you to understand the position of the person who hurt you. It can also be beneficial to pray, use guided meditation or journal. In any case, if the intention to forgive is present, forgiveness will come in its time.
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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 10:47:23 PM »
This message is, indeed, part of the core that is in our faith. Christianity.
For we are told to love one another, and key to love is to forgive those who have erred us in anyway. Or for us to ask forgiveness in our tresspasses.

Our Lord Jesus Christ instructed all of us to pray the Lord's Prayer, whose message resounds:

Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name,
thy kingdom come, thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,

Forgive us our tresspasses
as we forgive those who tresspass against us

Lead us not into temptation
and deliver us from evil.

Amen.


Critical to the message of Our Lord Jesus Christ is the concept of Love and Forgiveness. He, The Word Incarnate, The Holy One of God, commands us to forgive and to love. As every time we say the Lord's Prayer, we are told to do just that.

Verses from Sacred Scripture resounds this:

Matthew 18:21-22
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy times seven times.

Colossians 3:13
Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.



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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 12:36:15 AM »
Even non Christians know what is forgiveness...

forgiveness is just a way of letting go of your burden...

not to forgive is too much burden in your heart and mind,

no matter what belief you're having...

it feels good to forgive...

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 07:40:34 AM »
Absolutely.

Remember:

There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— One Lord, One faith, One baptism; One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 08:24:09 AM »




Please forgive me for forgiving you (?)   ;D






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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 08:35:20 AM »
na unsa man ka GEC?

Oops sorry. Na worng gmarmar  ;D

Nalimtan and "I have" and dapat "forgiven" not "forgiving" 


Abtik mata jud DaBinz   ;D

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 12:44:06 PM »
teacher(in a religion class): "anyone can give me a scripture passage about Sacrament of Baptism?"
one student: "baptize them, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
teacher: "What about sacrament of confession?"
2nd student: "Whatever you loose on earth, will be loosed in heaven...if you forgive the sins of other, they are forgiven you"
teacher: What about a passage for Sacrament of Matrimony? (then, there was silence)
and 3rd student confidently said: "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing."

hahahahhaah

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 03:41:56 PM »
teacher(in a religion class): "anyone can give me a scripture passage about Sacrament of Baptism?"
one student: "baptize them, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
teacher: "What about sacrament of confession?"
2nd student: "Whatever you loose on earth, will be loosed in heaven...if you forgive the sins of other, they are forgiven you"
teacher: What about a passage for Sacrament of Matrimony? (then, there was silence)
and 3rd student confidently said: "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing."

hahahahhaah

haha! Glacier, the last part is hilarious.

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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 05:12:06 PM »
What is a definition for forgiveness?

A definition for forgiveness could be -- giving up my right to hurt you, for hurting me. It is impossible to live on this fallen planet without getting hurt, offended, misunderstood, lied to, and rejected. Learning how to respond properly is one of the basics of the Christian life.

There is confusion about what is involved with forgiveness. Forgiveness is not saying that things are okay now, and then going back into an abusive situation. It is not letting someone off the hook by saying, “You didn’t do anything wrong.” Some people think that forgiveness is unconditional love with no boundaries or accountability. It is not. Forgiveness is not denial that a hurtful situation exists, and it isn’t denying the fact that your feelings are hurt. And forgiveness does not mean you accept the person’s behavior.

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 11:35:30 PM »
Forgiveness is the sweetest revenge.

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2009, 12:11:42 AM »
teacher(in a religion class): "anyone can give me a scripture passage about Sacrament of Baptism?"
one student: "baptize them, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
teacher: "What about sacrament of confession?"
2nd student: "Whatever you loose on earth, will be loosed in heaven...if you forgive the sins of other, they are forgiven you"
teacher: What about a passage for Sacrament of Matrimony? (then, there was silence)
and 3rd student confidently said: "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing."

hahahahhaah


hahhahhaha

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2009, 04:39:54 AM »
Forgiveness, for me, is the act of burying old ill feelings. It isn't the acceptance of the wrong actions of others--as it is not. In forgiving, we do not condone the negative actions, but on the contrary, we pardon the person who committed the act.

My parish priest best explains it as,
"Love the sinner, hate the sin. To love is to forgive."


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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2009, 04:46:46 PM »
" Forgive all who have offended you, not for them, but for yourself. "  Harriet Nelson

In my heart, it's easy to forgive but the one who wronged me would not know I forgave him or her until he or she asked for forgiveness and acknowledged how he or she wronged me.  But I agree, when we forgive, it isn't so much for the one who wronged us but for ourselves.  Bug-at pod kaayo if we have unforgiving heart.   :)

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2009, 03:31:26 AM »
Ate Ging,

I really liked that post. And I think I am like you in that regard.

:)

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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2009, 04:24:46 AM »
Forgiveness is a sign of peace, wish all those troubled country will forget the past and think the future of new generation of their land. Oh god helps them. I am sick of watching the news about people dying or died because of their silly ridiculous action killing those innocent people.

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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 08:50:39 AM »
Ate Ging,

I really liked that post. And I think I am like you in that regard.

:)

Warm regards,
always,

Dong, liwat diay ka in this regard sa imong virtual big sister. lol  I am glad. Lavoo, Dong!


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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2009, 08:58:05 AM »
haha the younger brother learns from the big sister. :P

Kummusta naman ka, 'te? How is Kuya doing? And Mocha the cuddly cat?

I love you too, Ate Ging!

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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2009, 04:13:06 PM »
Dong, we are okay.  Your Kuya M has started already his winter garden.  We never run out of vege to cook.  And Mocha? hmmm, he is getting fatter and fatter.  He is very cuddly though I couldn't cuddle him due to allergy.  Alyssamarie/smiffy gives him utmost attention when she is here.  They can really communicate! ;D 

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2009, 12:48:30 AM »
o wow, winter garden?

Amazing, what does Kuya grow diay?

Na tambok na diay si Mocha eh? haha, cute pood. Lami diay siya i-kusi-on?

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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2009, 03:16:37 AM »
Dong, we are okay.  Your Kuya M has started already his winter garden.  We never run out of vege to cook.  And Mocha? hmmm, he is getting fatter and fatter.  He is very cuddly though I couldn't cuddle him due to allergy.  Alyssamarie/smiffy gives him utmost attention when she is here.  They can really communicate! ;D 



speaking of communicating to animals...

Si Paring Mike nimo Tiya really talks with Louie...

mao nga naa jud na silay bonding bisan di kaajo na sila mag kita...

Loui is like my tail when im alone in the house pero ug naa na si Mike adto jud na sha mo bag-id kay estoryahon man...

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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2009, 03:53:44 PM »
o wow, winter garden?

Amazing, what does Kuya grow diay?

Na tambok na diay si Mocha eh? haha, cute pood. Lami diay siya i-kusi-on?

:P


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Dong, for his winter garden, he has bokchoy, pakchoy, fennel, broccoli, kale, swiss chard, collard greens, rutabaga and herbs.  he also has brussel sprouts that did not sprout at all but the leaves are humongous and they are edible so kana among gina saute. 

Yes, Mocha is getting fatter and fatter and I am the culprit daw!  He said what I am doing to Mocha is animal cruelty.  hahah I feed him always man gud because he keeps on asking for food.  Now, I try not to listen to Mocha anymore!  Mocha is the sweetest cat I have ever known.  He goes with me to the garden when I harvest vege for our dinner.

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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2009, 03:55:32 PM »


speaking of communicating to animals...

Si Paring Mike nimo Tiya really talks with Louie...

mao nga naa jud na silay bonding bisan di kaajo na sila mag kita...

Loui is like my tail when im alone in the house pero ug naa na si Mike adto jud na sha mo bag-id kay estoryahon man...

Ka cute!  Everytime naa mi sa garden, naa pod na sya.  I fell good bisan biyaan lang nako ning akong bana na ga garden while ga party ko kay Mocha is always with him.

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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 06:56:59 PM »
it is by Grace that u can forgive peacefully... :)

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2009, 08:19:18 PM »
Foregiveness is a total expression of how pure your love is!

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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2009, 03:49:45 AM »
Well said, Mr. Layman.

As we forgive, so does our Father in Heaven forgive us.

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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2009, 03:59:46 AM »
For the longest time, I had trouble in forgiving. As my pride would always get in the way.

Conversation with my local pastor in college, Fr. Mark Hoffman, led me to the realization of the punitive nature of pride. What does pride do? Self confidence, sure, that helps at times. But when pride gets in the way of reconciliation, then it must be 'humbled'. Or as what Fr. Hoffman told me, "Swallow your pride, Lorenzo." The only pride we should have, as he told me, is the pride in the knowing that our Eternal Father has an absolute Love for each and everyone of us. Unconditional Love. That, as he said, was something to be proud of.

And with that in mind, forgiveness came faster for me. I let go of the hostility and doubt to Christ Jesus. All my pains I give and release to Him.

Consequently, it has been beneficial. To begin in a clean slate, and to be able to mend old wounds. To forgive and be forgiven.

Why, that, to me, means alot. A sense of peace and contentness.

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2009, 04:32:30 AM »
To err is human, to forgive divine
Although known in Latin (humanum est errare, it is human to err) and in earlier English versions, this saying is generally quoted in Pope's words (quot. 1711). Cf. [c 1386 Chaucer Tale of Melibee l. 1264] The proverbe seith that ‘for to do synne is mannyssh, but certes for to persevere longe in synne is werk of the devel’; [1539 R. Morison tr. J. L. Vives' Introduction to Wisdom D7] It is naturally gyuen to al men, to erre, but to no man to perseuer‥therein.

    To offend is humaine, to repent diuine, and to perseuere diuelish.
    [1578 H. Wotton tr. J. Yver's Courtly Controversy E3]

    To erre is humane, to repent is divine, to persevere is Diabolicall.
    [1659 J. Howell Proverbs (French) 12]

    Good-Nature and Good-Sense must ever join; To Err is Humane; to Forgive, Divine.
    [1711 Pope Essay on Criticism l. 525]

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2009, 11:25:03 AM »
forgive
i was forgiven
it's grace in my heart

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2009, 12:30:03 PM »
It is so easy to forgive when you are full of love to your fellow human beings. Always remember that we are one of them, prone to err and oftentimes hurting others. If you want others to forgive your misgivings then make the first move and have a peace of mind.

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2009, 11:48:29 PM »
when forgiveness comes
the healing begins

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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2009, 04:29:25 AM »
LIFES CHALLENGES ARE DESIGNED NOT TO BREAK US
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      in every desert of trial
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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2009, 08:36:01 AM »
This reminds me of the parabolic prodigal son! Yo!

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2009, 01:23:35 PM »
it's a hug of love..nice. murag ako sa bata pa, gikan gilatos kay laagan

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