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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2012, 02:06:52 PM »
The Wrath of God Is Supreme


What did Lucifer say to Bring out the Wrath of the Lord God?


Let's read the verses form Isaiah 14:

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. "


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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2012, 07:42:14 PM »
it's tempting to change my name to islandel. 

Inappropriate. Isn't it perfect as it is now? Unless, of course, the correct spelling of some angel's name is Lucifel... ;D



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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2012, 11:51:57 PM »
Inappropriate. Isn't it perfect as it is now? Unless, of course, the correct spelling of some angel's name is Lucifel... ;D

what about isrander, aron hapon na lang.  di na lang ko mangambisyon ug angel. ;D

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2012, 12:16:07 AM »
BASTA mabasa lang bahala ng spelling,,

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2012, 12:58:48 AM »
RAGUEL, ARCHANGEL OF THE LORD

and, in different texts and depending on the language, also referred to as raquel, raguil, rasuil, rufael, suryan, akrasiel.

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2012, 07:50:07 AM »
and, in different texts and depending on the language, also referred to as raquel, raguil, rasuil, rufael, suryan, akrasiel.

Yes, you are right, Isles. :)

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2012, 08:03:55 AM »
Musical Instruments and the Angels


We are familiar with pictures of angels playing musical instruments, and we are familiar with Psalm 150, which reads,

"Praise ye the Lord in His holy places: praise  ye him in the firmament of his power. Praise ye him for his mighty acts, praise ye him according to the multitude of his greatness. Praise him with sound of trumpet: praise him with psaltery and harp. Praise him with timbrel and choir: praise him with strings and organs. Praise him on high sounding cymbals: praise him on cymbals of joy: Let every spirit PRAISE THE LORD: ALLELUIA"

-Psalm 150


There is, however, one instrument , undoubtedly the instrument of choice, which Scripture does describe angels as playing -- the trumpet. We read in the gospel of St. Matthew: "And he shall send his angels with a trumpet, and a great voice: and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the farthest parts of the heavens to the utmost bounds of them" (Matthew 24:1).

St. Paul writes in his first letter to the Corinthians: "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall rise again incorruptible: and we shall be changed." (Corinthians 15:52). St. Paul instructs again, "For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment , and with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpets of God: and the dead who are in Christ , shall rise first."
(1 Thessalonians 4:15).






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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2012, 08:20:18 AM »
We turn now to Blessed Padre Pio , to whom angelic harmonies were a familiar, welcomed occurrence. Fr. Allessio Parente, who was for many years the priest's constant companion and helper, tells us that on one occasion in the Friary of Our Lady of Grace, a number of friars heard heavenly voices singing beautiful harmonies, but could not tell from whence they came, since at that hour during the day there would be no singing in the church. When they asked Padre Pio about it, the holy friar replied, "Why are you surprised? They are the voices of the angels who are taking souls from Purgatory into Paradise."

On another occasion, two of Padre Pio's spiritual children were sitting on the beach when they began hearing unexplained voices coming from the direction of the Gargano mountain. It seemed like a heavenly choir singing harmonies they had never heard before. Their souls were lifted, and they experienced unearthly delight before the music began to slowly fade away.

The two young men were so overcome by the experience that they visited Padre Pio and asked him about the singing. The Padre replied, "Silly boys, you didn't understand? It was the angels who were praising Our Lady from above the friary. Thank the Lord for the special grace which you received."




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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2012, 08:27:57 AM »
Angelic Music and the Saints





Angelic voices not only announced the death of certain saints, but were also heard by many saints who were very much alive. During the ecstasy in which she was admitted to Heaven and saw its beauty and those of the inhabitants, St. Lydwine of Schiedam (1380-1433) heard heavenly music and the voices of the Angels. The saint's biographer describes the music of Heaven this way: "Great seraphim flamed, unloosing harps of fire, the gorgeous pearl of sound...others chanted messianic psalms and sang in alternate choirs transporting hymns...in humble imitation she repeated the language of praise; but how differently from the chords of those harps, the power and sub-tility of those fragrances , the thundering zeal of those voices."



Cruz, Joan Carroll. (1999). Angels and Demons. Rockford, Illinois: Tan Books and Publishers, Inc.

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2012, 08:44:33 AM »
Pope St. Leo I, a great devotee of the Angels, exhorts us to make friendships with the holy Angels, as did St. Denis, a contemporary  of the Apostles and a disciple of St. Paul. St. Denis personally assumed the title of Philangelus, that is, "Friend of the Angels." Friendship wiht the Angels is also encouraged because of the assistance and the loving attention that they always give us. St. Augustine tells us,

"The Angels go in and out with us, having their eyes always fixed upon us and upon all that we are doing. If we stop anywhere, they stop also; if we go forth to walk, they bear us company; if we journey into another country, they follow us; go where we will, by land or by sea, they are ever with us. While we sleep, they keep watch by us...they never tire of being with us all day long and all night long, and during every moment of our life. And if we are so happy as to be saved, after our death, they will visit us in the prison of Purgatory."


How often we have received enlightenment from them regarding both spiritual and temporal matters: sudden impressions which surprise us when we least expect them; moments when our hearts feel urged to offer love to God; reminders about prayers to be said or forgotten duties or kindness that were neglected, but which should be performed; a sudden answer seemingly coming from nowhere to a question that perplexes us; a recollection of a friend long forgotten who might be in need of prayer; a pious thought or remembrance while we are in the midst of recreation, amusement or some busy occasion. All of us at one time or another have experienced these moments, but did not realize where they came from. Perhaps while we endeavor to grow closer to our guardian angel, we can be more attentive to those "inspirations" that suddenly come upon us and then realize that it is our "heavenly friend" who is responsible for them.







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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2012, 09:03:59 AM »
And if we are so happy as to be saved, after our death, they will visit us in the prison of Purgatory."

how reassuring.

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« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2012, 09:14:16 AM »
How often we have received enlightenment from them regarding both spiritual and temporal matters: sudden impressions which surprise us when we least expect them; moments when our hearts feel urged to offer love to God; reminders about prayers to be said or forgotten duties or kindness that were neglected, but which should be performed; a sudden answer seemingly coming from nowhere to a question that perplexes us; a recollection of a friend long forgotten who might be in need of prayer; a pious thought or remembrance while we are in the midst of recreation, amusement or some busy occasion. All of us at one time or another have experienced these moments, but did not realize where they came from. Perhaps while we endeavor to grow closer to our guardian angel, we can be more attentive to those "inspirations" that suddenly come upon us and then realize that it is our "heavenly friend" who is responsible for them.

i've had these experiences countless of times.  often, i attribute them to esp, relegating angels to my mind's back burner.  ingrate. 

doubtless mothers are always right.  don't be afraid, your guardian angel is walking with you, my mother said when i first tried to walk to school alone.   

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2012, 09:20:50 AM »
what about isrander, aron hapon na lang.  di na lang ko mangambisyon ug angel. ;D

He he, krarong maoy isurti sa mahirig sa surod ragay... ;D



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« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2012, 09:53:55 AM »
i've had these experiences countless of times.  often, i attribute them to esp, relegating angels to my mind's back burner.  ingrate. 

doubtless mothers are always right.  don't be afraid, your guardian angel is walking with you, my mother said when i first tried to walk to school alone.   

that is beautiful. your mom must have been a wonderful woman... :)

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2012, 01:17:49 AM »
Other Archangels



Since the Archangel Raphael revealed himself to Tobias with the words, "I am Raphael, one of the seven who stand before the Lord." (Tobit 12:16), and since Michael and Gabriel are identified also as archangels, many have wondered about the identity of the other four archangels mentioned by Raphael. The four remaining angels "who stand before the Lord" are said to have the names Urie, Raguel, Sariel, and Jeremiel, but these names are taken from the apocryphal works, which are frowned upon and not accepted by the Catholic Church. The true identity of these four archangels will probably be known to us only in Heaven.


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« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2012, 01:39:42 AM »
Guardian Angels - How Do We Know We Have Them?



We know we have a guardian angel from the teachings of the Church herself, based both on the Old and New Testaments and Tradition, from the writings of the Doctors of the Church. We have assurance from the mouth of Jesus who stated: "See that you despise not one of these little ones: for I say to you, that their angels always see the face of my Father who is in Heaven!" (Matthew 18:10).

Scripture adds: "For he hath given his angels charge over thee; to keep thee in all thy ways." (Psalm 90:11). And in the book of Exodus we learn that in addition to our guardian , the good Lord often assigns other angels to help in particular situations. In given certain rules to the children of Israel, God told them: "Behold I will send my angel, who shall go before thee and keep thee in thy journey, and bring thee into the place that I have prepared. Take notice of him , and hear his voice, and do not think him one to be contemned: for he will not forgive when thou hast sinned, and my name is in him. But if thou wilt hear his voice, and do all that I speak, I will be an enemy to thy enemies, and will afflict them that afflict thee." (Exodus 23: 20-22).

In the Acts of the Apostles St. Paul had  a vision of his guardian angel, who appeared and prophesied when the ship on which the Saint was sailing as a prisoner was caught in a terrible tempest that lasted for days. Scripture relates that afterward, Paul spoke to those on board in this way: "And now I exhort you to be of good cheer. For there shall be no loss of any man's life among you, but only of the ship. For an angel of God , whose I am, and whom I serve, stood by me this night , saying : "Fear Not, Paul, thou must be brought before Caesar; and behold, God hath given thee all of them that sail with thee." (Acts 27: 22-24).

The Bible represents the Angels not only as our guardians, but also as actually interceding for us and offering our prayers to God. St. Raphael the Archangel addressed these words to Tobias: "When thou didst pray with tears, and dist bury the dead, and dist leave thy dinner, and hide the dead by day in thy  house, and bury them by night, I offered thy prayer to the Lord." (Tobit 12: 12).

St. Paul in writing about the guardian angels explains, " Are they not all ministering spirits, sent to minister for them, who shall receive the inheritance of Salvation?" (Hebrews 1:14)




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