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A Discussion About Angels
« on: March 21, 2012, 05:53:45 PM »
This will be a thread discussion about angels. I will be taking direct citation from the book "Angels and Demons", written by Joan Carroll Cruz.

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 05:59:10 PM »
WHAT IS AN ANGEL?


St. Augustine (354-430) instructs us that the word "angel" is the name of their office, not of their nature. Their nature is known as "spirit". The word "angel" , as translated from the Greek, means "one going" , "one sent" or "messengers". St. Augustine adds that the "spirits called angels were never, in any sense, at any time, partakers of darkness, but from the moment of their creation, they were beings of light. They were not merely created in order to exist and to live, but they were also illumined, so that they might live in wisdom and happiness."




According to St. Bernard (1090- 1153), in his De Consideratione, angels are:


"mighty, glorious, blessed, distinct personalities, of
graduated rank, occupying the order given them from
the beginning, perfect of their kind..endowed with
immortality, passionless..being of pure mind, benignant
affections, religious and devout; of unblemished morality;
inseparablly one in heart and mind, blessed with unbroken peace,
God's edifice dedicated to the divine praises and service.
All this we ascertain by reading, and holding by faith."


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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 06:15:53 PM »
What the Church Teaches about Angels



The Church continues to benefit from angelic services, since angels are recognized in her prayers and rubrics. In the funeral liturgy we pray, "May the Angels lead you into Paradise." The words of Gabriel are given in the Hail Mary, and the announcement is repeated in the Angelus , which the Church recites at 6 a.m, noon, and 6 p.m.

The Angels are appealed to for prayer at the beginning of Holy Mass in the words, "And I ask Blessed Mary, ever Virgin, all the Angels  and Saints, and you, my brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord our God." The Confiteor in the Traditional Roman Rite of the Mass invokes, "Holy Michael the Archangel."

The Preface of Holy Mass also appeals to "all the choirs of Angels in Heaven." to join with us in praising God. And after the Consecration , we pray: "Almighty God, we pray that your angel may take this sacrifice to your altar in Heaven.."

In an address given by Pope John Paul II on July 9, 1986, the Holy Father stated regarding angels, "All of the Church's tradition is unanimous in affirming that they do exist. One would have to alter Sacred Scripture itself if one wished to eliminate this teaching. At certain points in salvation history, angels have had a fundamental role to play in the unfolding of human events."

In the same year, on July 23, Pope John Paul II instructed:


"The Angels are purely spiritual beings, created by God and given intelligence and free will. Through an immediate intuition of the truth, their intelligence grasps its object in a way that is much more complete than is possible for man. The world of the pure spirits is divided into good angels and bad ones. And this division has happened precisely as a result of their Freedom to Choose. God was present to their intelligence and free will as the Supreme Good. He also wished to give them, through grace, a share in the mystery of His Divinity.  The good angels have chosen God. But others...have turned against God and the revelation of His Grace. Their decision was inspired  by a false sense of self-sufficiency, and it emerges as hatred and rebellion against God."


It is traditional Catholic teaching that each individual is given a guardian angel, who will accompany , guard and teach him throughout his life. After death this angel will accompany the soul to its judgement, visit it if it is detained in Purgatory, and accompany it to the Glory of Heaven.








Source:

Cruz, Joan Carroll. (1999). Angels and Demons. Rockford, Illinois: Tan Books and Publishers, Inc.

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 09:59:56 PM »
The Hierarchy of Angels

oh, yes, angels have "ranks" too.

The most influential Christian angelic hierarchy was that put forward by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite in the 4th or 5th century in his book De Coelesti Hierarchia (The Celestial Hierarchy).

During the Middle Ages, many schemes were proposed, some drawing on and expanding on Pseudo-Dionysius, others suggesting completely different classifications.  According to medieval Christian theologians, the angels are organized into several orders, or "Angelic Choirs".

Pseudo-Dionysius (The Celestial Hierarchy) and Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theologica) drew on passages from the New Testament, specifically Ephesians 1:21 and Colossians 1:16, in an attempt to develop a schema of three Hierarchies, Spheres or Triads of angels, with each Hierarchy containing three Orders or Choirs.  Although both authors drew on the New Testament, the Biblical canon is relatively silent on the subject.  Thus these hierarchies are highly speculative.

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 10:06:06 PM »
According to medieval Christian theologians, the angels are organized into several orders, or "Angelic Choirs".

the term 'choirs of angels', thus, refers to the classification of angels, not singing angels. artistic renderings throughout the ages portray them as such, though.  well, they sing praises to god anyway.

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 10:10:19 PM »
The Hierarchy (or Classification)

1 First Sphere

    1.1 Seraphim
    1.2 Cherubim
    1.3 Thrones (or Ophanim)

2 Second Sphere

    2.1 Dominions
    2.2 Virtues
    2.3 Powers (or Authorities)

3 Third Sphere

    3.1 Principalities (or Rulers)
    3.2 Archangels
    3.3 Angels

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 10:24:43 PM »

Orthodox icon of nine orders of angels
from top, left:  Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones
                      Dominions, Virtues, Powers
                      Principalities, Archangels, Angels     

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 10:26:29 PM »
obviously, the song 'pin-pin the serapin' is of the first order.

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 10:28:10 PM »
RAQUEL is a female name of an angel.  but we'll go to angel names later.  this is just a foretaste for raquelproud boholana. ;D

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 10:34:25 PM »
for those interested to go through a brief study of angelology in one go, there's always wikipedia for starters.  one can take off from there and go to other sources for further studies.  (yes, i've always been very interested in angelology.) 

for purposes of this thread, itagas-tagas nako ug post dinhi kay mas sayon sabton kay enjoy man sad kog study ug ako.  :D 

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Re: A Discussion About Angels
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 10:40:08 PM »
1 First Sphere

1.1 Seraphim

Seraphim (singular "Seraph"), mentioned in Isaiah 6:1-7, serve as the caretakers of God's throne and continuously shout praises: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts.  All the earth is filled with His Glory."  The name Seraphim means "the burning ones."  The Seraphim have six wings.

Two of the Seraphim are named Seraphiel and Metatron, according to some books.  Seraphiel is said to have the head of an eagle.  It is said that such a bright light emanates from them that nothing, not even other angelic beings, can look upon them.  It is also said that there are four of them surrounding God's throne, where they burn eternally from love and zeal for God.


Seraphim surround the divine throne in this
illustration from the Petites Heures de Jean de Berry,
a 14th-century illuminated manuscript.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 10:59:41 PM »
1.2 Cherubim

Cherubim have four faces: one of each a man, an ox, a lion, and an eagle.  They have four conjoined wings covered with eyes, a lion's body figure, and they have ox's feet.  Cherubim guard the way to the tree of life in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:24) and the throne of God (Ezekiel 28:14-16).

The cherubim are mentioned in Genesis 3:24; Exodus 25:17-22; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 10:12–14, 28:14-16; 1 Kings 6:23–28; and Revelation 4:6-8.

Modern English usage has blurred the distinction between cherubim and putti.  Putti are the winged human baby/toddler-like beings traditionally used in figurative art.

St. Thomas Aquinas imagined Satan as a fallen Cherub.


A cherub, as described by Ezekiel
and according to traditional Christian
iconography.

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 11:08:14 PM »
1.3 Thrones (or Ophanim)

The "Thrones" (Gr. thronos) or Elders, also known as the Erelim or Ophanim, are a class of celestial beings mentioned by Paul of Tarsus in Colossians 1:16 (New Testament).  They are living symbols of God's justice and authority, and have as one of their symbols the throne.  These high celestial beings appear to be mentioned again in Revelation 11:16.

The Ophanim (Heb. ofanim: Wheels, also known as Thrones, from the vision of Daniel 7:9) are unusual looking even compared to the other celestial beings; they appear as a beryl-colored wheel-within-a-wheel, their rims covered with hundreds of eyes.

They are closely connected with the Cherubim: "When they moved, the others moved; when they stopped, the others stopped; and when they rose from the earth, the wheels rose along with them; for the spirit of the living creatures [Cherubim] was in the wheels." Ezekiel 10:17 NRSV.


One traditional depiction of the chariot vision,
based on the description in Ezekiel.

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2012, 11:19:45 PM »
2 Second Sphere

(Angels of the Second Sphere work as heavenly governors.)

2.1 Dominions

The "Dominions" (lat. dominatio, plural dominationes, also translated from the Greek term kyriotites as "Lordships") are presented as the hierarchy of celestial beings "Lordships" in the De Coelesti Hierarchia.  The Dominions, also known as the Hashmallim, regulate the duties of lower angels.  It is only with extreme rarity that the angelic lords make themselves physically known to humans.  They are also the angels who preside over nations.

The Dominions are believed to look like divinely beautiful humans with a pair of feathered wings, much like the common representation of angels, but they may be distinguished from other groups by wielding orbs of light fastened to the heads of their scepters or on the pommel of their swords.

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A dominion angel

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 11:27:41 PM »
2.2 Virtues

The "Virtues" or "Strongholds" lie beyond the Ophanim (Thrones/Wheels).  Their primary duty is to supervise the movements of the heavenly bodies in order to ensure that the cosmos remains in order.

The term appears to be linked to the attribute "might", from the Greek root "δύναμις" in Ephesians 1:21, which is also translated as "Virtue".  They are presented as the celestial Choir "Virtues" in the Summa Theologica.  Traditional theological conceptions of the Virtues might appear to describe the same Order called the Thrones (Gr. thronos), (in which case the Ophanim may not be the same thing as "Thrones").

From Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite's De Coelesti Hierarchia:

    "The name of the holy Virtues signifies a certain powerful and unshakable virility welling forth into all their Godlike energies; not being weak and feeble for any reception of the divine Illuminations granted to it; mounting upwards in fullness of power to an assimilation with God; never falling away from the Divine Life through its own weakness, but ascending unwaveringly to the superessential Virtue which is the Source of virtue: fashioning itself, as far as it may, in virtue; perfectly turned towards the Source of virtue, and flowing forth providentially to those below it, abundantly filling them with virtue."

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The Virtues, described as brilliant and shining ones,
and are usually represented as a group.


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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 11:42:41 PM »
2.3 Powers (or Authorities)

The "Powers" (lat. potestas (f), pl. potestates), or "Authorities", from the Greek exousies, (see Greek root in Eph 3:10) appear to collaborate, in power and authority, with the Principalities (Rulers).

The Powers are the bearers of conscience and the keepers of history.  They are also the warrior angels created to be completely loyal to God.  Some believe that no Power has ever fallen from grace, but another theory states that Satan was the Chief of the Powers before he Fell (see also Ephesians 6:12).  Their duty is to oversee the distribution of power among humankind, hence their name.

Paul used the term rule and authority in Ephesians 1:21, and rulers and authorities in Ephesians 3:10.  He may have been referring to the rulers and authorities of humanity, instead of referring to angels.

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Powers Powers are Warrior Angels against evil defending
the cosmos and humans. They are known as potentates.

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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 11:57:38 PM »
RAQUEL is a female name of an angel.  but we'll go to angel names later.  this is just a foretaste for raquelproud boholana. ;D

Many of the names of Angels have the suffix "- EL"

per se: MICHA-EL, GABRI-EL, RAPHA-EL, URI-EL

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 11:59:33 PM »
for those interested to go through a brief study of angelology in one go, there's always wikipedia for starters.  one can take off from there and go to other sources for further studies.  (yes, i've always been very interested in angelology.) 

for purposes of this thread, itagas-tagas nako ug post dinhi kay mas sayon sabton kay enjoy man sad kog study ug ako.  :D 

Thanks, Isles ! Learning pod ko ani and my interest in Angels has been fueled by my recent purchasing of the book "Angels and Demons" by Joan Carroll Cruz.

This is a very fascinating topic !

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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 12:03:08 AM »


One of the greatest Cherub was Lucifer, who was cast out of Heaven during the Great War in Heaven. It is said that Lucifer became corrupted and wanted to become God because he was so close to the Throne of God. He was foolish to think so. May God rebuke him.

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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 12:17:24 AM »
3 Third Sphere

(Angels who function as heavenly messengers and soldiers.)

3.1 Principalities (or Rulers)

The "Principalities" (lat. principatus, pl. principatūs) also translated as "Princedoms" and "Rulers", from the Greek arche (see Greek root in Eph 3:10), appear to collaborate, in power and authority with the Powers (Authorities).

The Principalities are shown wearing a crown and carrying a sceptre.  Their duty also is said to be to carry out the orders given to them by the Dominions and bequeath blessings to the material world.  Their task is to oversee groups of people.  They are the educators and guardians of the realm of earth.  Like beings related to the world of the germinal ideas, they are said to inspire living things to many things such as art or science.

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According to tradition, Principalities can be distinguished from other angels in that
they wear a tiara with a cross upon it.

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2012, 12:18:41 AM »



While all good angels love God exceedingly, the love of the Seraphim is said to be beyond compare. They are called "the princes of pure love" according to the great St. Denis (d. 258), who mentions eight properties of this love that are represented by fire. Among these properties is that "seraphic love signifies intense love, which is ever burning and consuming." He mentions that fire is in constant motion, just as the Seraphim are incessantly intent on God alone. Since fire is intensely hot, the love of the Seraphim is a burning love. Fire never loses its light, just as a seraphic love abides in its fullness.

"Fire not only penetrates what is combustible, but permeates throughout; and seraphic love plunges, loses and engulfs itself by the abyss of the Divinity by a Glorious Transformation. Fire communicates warmth and purifies; the Seraphim carry love and light into all the choirs of the other angels."


Reference: Angels and Demons by Joan Carroll Cruz.

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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2012, 12:21:40 AM »
Many of the names of Angels have the suffix "- EL"

per se: MICHA-EL, GABRI-EL, RAPHA-EL, URI-EL

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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2012, 12:23:06 AM »
it's tempting to change my name to islandel.  bugsayel though might take it as chinese. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2012, 12:23:45 AM »
hehehe! Michael Ligalig is named after the Prince of Heaven and Commander of the Army of Heaven, Michael the Archangel.

The Name MICHA-EL means, "WHO IS LIKE GOD?"; it signifies the Zeal of the Archangel to GOD.

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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2012, 12:24:22 AM »
it's tempting to change my name to islandel.  bugsayel though might take it as chinese. ;D


hahahaha ! you're too cute :)

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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2012, 12:31:43 AM »
Second Sphere

(Angels of the Second Sphere work as heavenly governors.)

Dominions

The "Dominions" (lat. dominatio, plural dominationes, also translated from the Greek term kyriotites as "Lordships") are presented as the hierarchy of celestial beings "Lordships" in the De Coelesti Hierarchia.  The Dominions, also known as the Hashmallim, regulate the duties of lower angels.  It is only with extreme rarity that the angelic lords make themselves physically known to humans.  They are also the angels who preside over nations.

The Dominions are believed to look like divinely beautiful humans with a pair of feathered wings, much like the common representation of angels, but they may be distinguished from other groups by wielding orbs of light fastened to the heads of their scepters or on the pommel of their swords.

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A dominion angel

Very interesting.

St. Dionysius the Areopagite writes:

"The name given to the Holy Dominations means, I think, a certain unbounded elevation to that which is above, freedom from all that is terrestrial, and from all inward inclination to the bondage of discord, a liberal superiority to harsh tyranny, freedom from degrading servility and from what is low, because they are untouched by any inconsistency. They are true Lords, perpetually aspiring to true Lordship and to the source of all Lordship...They do not turn toward vain shadows, but wholly give themselves to that true authority, forevere one with the godlike source of Lordship."

It is also reported that the main virtue of these heavenly spirits is their zeal for the maintenance of God's Authority.


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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2012, 12:40:23 AM »
3.2 Archangels

The word "archangel" comes from the Greek αρχάγγελος (archangÄ›lÇ’s), meaning chief angel, a translation of the Hebrew רב־מלאך (rav-mal'ákh).  It derives from the Greek archō, meaning to be first in rank or power; and aggÄ›lÇ’s which means messenger.  The word is only used twice in the New Testament: 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and Jude 1:9.  Only Archangels Gabriel and Michael are mentioned by name in the New Testament.

Michael is the only angel the Bible named expressly as "the" archangel.  In the Book of Daniel he is referred to as "one of the chief princes".  The word "prince" here is the ancient Hebrew word sar, which means: "a head person (of any rank or class), a chief, a general etc."

In most Christian traditions Gabriel is also considered an archangel, but there is no direct literal support for this assumption.

The name of the archangel Raphael appears only in the Book of Tobit (Tobias).  Tobit is considered Deuterocanonical by Roman Catholics (both Eastern and Western Rites) and Eastern Orthodox Christians.  The Book of Tobit is also read by Anglicans and Lutherans, but not by Reformed Christians or Baptists.  Raphael said to Tobias that he was "one of the seven who stand before the Lord", and it is generally believed that Michael and Gabriel are two of the other six.

A fourth Archangel is Uriel whose name literally means "Fire of God" or "Light of God."  Uriel's name is the only one not mentioned in the Lutheran Bible, but plays, however, a prominent role in an apocryphon read by Anglican and Russian Orthodox Christians: The second Book of Esdras (fourth Books of Esdras in the Latin Vulgate).  In the book he unveils seven prophecies to the prophet Ezra, after whom the book is named. He also plays a role in the apocryphal Book of Enoch, which is considered canonical only by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Another possible interpretation of the seven archangels is that the seven are the seven spirits of God that stand before the throne described in the Book of Enoch, and in the Book of Revelation.

The Seven Archangels are said to be the guardian angels of nations and countries, and are concerned with the issues and events surrounding these, including politics, military matters, commerce and trade: e.g. Archangel Michael is traditionally seen as the protector of Israel and of the ecclesia (Gr. root ekklesia from the New Testament passages), theologically equated as the Church, the forerunner of the spiritual New Israel.

It is possible to make a distinction between archangel (with a lower-case a) and Archangel (with an uppercase A).  The former can denote the second-lowest choir (arch-angels in the sense of being just above the lowest Choir of angels that is called only "angels") but the latter may denote the highest of all the angels (i.e., Arch-angels in the sense of being above all angels, of any Choir. The seven highest Seraphim, Michael being the highest of all, once Satan fell).

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Guido Reni's archangel Michael
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della Concezione, Rome, 1636) tramples Satan.

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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2012, 12:44:42 AM »

used, or misused, in a comics book kind of way, as a brand for a local gin:



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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2012, 01:33:15 AM »
3.3 Angels

The "angels", (malakhim Greek angělǒs) messengers, are the lowest order of the angels, and the most recognized. They are the ones most concerned with the affairs of living things. Within the category of the angels, there are many different kinds, with different functions. The angels are sent as messengers to mankind.

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An angel comforting Jesus, by Carl Heinrich Bloch, 1865-1879.

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2012, 01:51:11 AM »
used, or misused, in a comics book kind of way, as a brand for a local gin:


holy cow, this version is the work of one of our great artists, fernando amorsolo!

why this gin earned the sobriquet "marca demonio" is what i'm also curious about.  the archangel michael is obviously the main focus in the label, as in the original painting, but how did it ever come to pass that we chose to call this drink by the devil that no one knows?  is it the '80 proof' proof?     

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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2012, 01:53:12 AM »
...before Amorsolo left for Spain, he designed the ever popular logo "Marca Demonio" used as the label of the well-known Ginebra San Miguel. This logo showed St. Michael vanquishing the devil.  A favorite drink in fiestas, weekend camaraderie, and other important celebrations, this graphic design eventually became the symbol of the Filipinos’ tenacity when facing adversities and crises; and also their vigilance to protect and fight for what is right.



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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2012, 02:00:42 AM »
I have always been a big fan of Amorsolo.  I have seen his works when I was a child from the books of my older siblings, the Philippine Readers.  But, by the same token, since time immemorial, I was bothered by the fore-shortening of St. Michael's right arm brandishing a serrated sword in the "Marca Demonio" bottle label.  If you look closer, you'll think that the arm is somewhat attached to the Archangel's neck!

I am not pretending to be a better artist than my favorite Amorsolo, but I somehow moved the arm around a little to make it look more natural.



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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2012, 05:08:22 AM »
Who Was Lucifer? What Angelic Rank Did He Hold? Why Did He Fall ?


Lucifer, prior to his great fall



Lucifer was the Anointed Cherubim. As such he held one of the highest Angelic Ranks and in close proximity to the Divine Throne of God. Anointed means to be set apart for Gods Divine purpose. It also means "bestowal of Gods divine favor", and "appointment to a special place or function."

God had given Satan a certain amount of power and authority. But he perverted that power. Lucifer wanted to exalt himself above God... rather than "just" being the Angel of God.

Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it.
( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 )

Like man, the angels were created perfect, and with a free will.

Satan was lifted up because of his beauty, he corrupted the wisdom by reason of his brightness (This is in Ezekiel 28:17)

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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2012, 05:10:17 AM »
Lucifer is just another name for Satan, who as head of the evil world-system is the real, though invisible, power behind the successive rulers of Tyre, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, and all of those evil rulers that we have seen come and go in the history of the world. This passage goes beyond human history and marks the beginning of sin in the universe and the very fall of Satan in the pristine, sinless spheres before the creation of man.

We also see this same motif in Ezekiel: "Moreover the word of the LORD came to me: Mortal, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord GOD: You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, carnelian, chrysolite, and moonstone, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald; and worked in gold were your settings and your engravings. On the day that you were created they were prepared. With an anointed cherub as guardian I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the stones of fire. You were blameless in your ways from the day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you. In the abundance of your trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned; so I cast you as a profane thing from the mountain of God, and the guardian cherub drove you out from among the stones of fire. Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I exposed you before kings, to feast their eyes on you. By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your trade, you profaned your sanctuaries. So I brought out fire from within you; it consumed you, and I turned you to ashes on the earth in the sight of all who saw you. All who know you among the peoples are appalled at you; you have come to a dreadful end and shall be no more forever" (Ezekiel 28:11-19, NIV).

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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2012, 10:16:55 AM »
Cherubim have four faces: one of each a man, an ox, a lion, and an eagle. 






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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2012, 10:41:33 AM »
RAQUEL is a female name of an angel.  but we'll go to angel names later.  this is just a foretaste for raquelproud boholana. ;D
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2012, 01:29:32 PM »
RAGUEL, ARCHANGEL OF THE LORD





The Book of Enoch mentions of an Archangel by the name of RAGUEL. The name RAGU-EL literally means, "FRIEND OF GOD".



Raguel is referred to as the archangel of justice, fairness and harmony. In the Book of Enoch Raguel is one of the seven archangels whose function is to take vengeance on the world of the luminaries who have transgressed God's laws. Raguel brings a course of fire which persecutes all the fallen luminaries. Raguel also shows Enoch The Seven Mountains and in the midst of it- the high mountain which is the throne of God where the Lord of Glory will sit along with the tree of wisdom. Raguel is found in the Revelation of John as the angel of the church in Philadelphia (Rev 3:7). This angel can also be attributed to the sixth angel (Rev 9:14). Raguel watches over other angels to make sure they are working well together with mortals in a harmonious and orderly fashion according to Divine order (Rev 3:7 - 13) and will. Raguel brings all the other archangels and angels to account for their improper deeds.

Raguel is not mentioned in the canonical writings of the Bible. His name is listed as one of the seven archangels in the Book of Enoch. While not mentioned by name in the Bible, interpreters of these texts believe they refer to him in several places. When the patriarch Enoch visited heaven as a mortal, it was Raguel who carried him to and from the mortal world. Most of the Biblical references, however, come from Revelation of John.


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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 01:32:12 PM »
Notably, The Archangel Raguel is a Mighty Heavenly Spirit. He brings down justice and punishes the luminaries who transgress against the LORD. He is known for his Zealotry for the Authority of The LORD.


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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2012, 01:59:19 PM »
Lucifer's Great Fall





Thus says the Lord GOD:

"You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, carnelian, chrysolite, and moonstone, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald; and worked in gold were your settings and your engravings. On the day that you were created they were prepared. With an anointed cherub as guardian I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the stones of fire. You were blameless in your ways from the day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you. In the abundance of your trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned; so I cast you as a profane thing from the mountain of God, and the guardian cherub drove you out from among the stones of fire. Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I exposed you before kings, to feast their eyes on you. By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your trade, you profaned your sanctuaries. So I brought out fire from within you; it consumed you, and I turned you to ashes on the earth in the sight of all who saw you. All who know you among the peoples are appalled at you; you have come to a dreadful end and shall be no more forever"

Ezekiel 28:11-19

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