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Title: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:05:12 AM
As the name sufficiently indicates, demonology is the science or doctrine concerning demons. Both in its form and in its meaning it has an obvious analogy with theology, which is the science or doctrine about God. And with reference to the many false and dangerous forms of this demonic science we may fitly adapt the well-known words of Albertus Magnus on the subject of theology and say of demonology, A daemonibus docetur, de daemonibus docet, et ad daemones ducit ("It is taught by the demons, it teaches about the demons, and it leads to the demons"). For very much of the literature that comes under this head of demonology is tainted with errors that may well owe their origin to the father of falsehood, and much of it again, especially those portions which have a practical purpose (what may be called the ascetical and mystical demonology) is designed to lead men to give themselves to the service of Satan.
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:05:41 AM
There is, of course, a true doctrine about demons or evil spirits, namely, that portion of Catholic theology which treats of the creation and fall of the rebel angels, and of the various ways in which these fallen spirits are permitted to tempt and afflict the children of men. But for the most part these questions will be dealt with elsewhere in this work. Here, on the contrary, our chief concern is with the various ethnic, Jewish, and heretical systems of demonology. These systems are so many that it will be out of the question to deal with them all or to set forth their doctrines with completeness. And indeed a full treatment of these strange doctrines of demons might well seem somewhat out of place in these pages. It will be enough to give some indication of the main features of a few of the more important systems in various lands and in distant ages. This may enable the reader to appreciate the important part played by these ideas in the course of human history and their influence on the religion and morals and social life of the people. At the same time some attempt may be made to distinguish the scattered elements of truth which may still be found in this vast fabric of falsehood — truths of natural religion, recorded experience of actual facts, even perhaps remnants of revealed teaching that come from the Jewish and Christian Scriptures or from primitive tradition. This point has some importance at the present day, when the real or apparent agreement between heathen legend and Christian theology is so often made a ground of objection against the truth of revealed religion.
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
Perhaps the first fact that strikes one who approaches the study of this subject is the astonishing universality and antiquity of demonology, of some belief in the existence of demons or evil spirits, and of a consequent recourse to incantations or other magical practices. There are some things which flourished in the past and have long since disappeared from the face of the earth; and there are others whose recorded origin may be traced in comparatively modern times, and it is no surprise to find that they are still flourishing. There are beliefs and practices, again, which seem to be confined to certain lands and races of men, or to some particular stage of social culture. But there is something which belongs at once to the old world and the new, and is found flourishing among the most widely different races, and seems to be equally congenial to the wild habits of savages and the refinements of classical or modern culture. Its antiquity may be seen not only from the evidence of ancient monuments, but from the fact that a yet more remote past is still present with us in the races which remain, as one may say, in the primitive and prehistoric condition.
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:08:06 AM
This belief in spirits, both good and evil, is commonly associated with one or other of two widespread and primitive forms of religious worship — and accordingly some modern folklorists and mythologists are led to ascribe its origin either to the personification of the forces of nature — in which many have found a "key to all the mythologies" — or else to Animism, or a belief in the powerful activity of the souls of the dead, who were therefore invoked and worshipped. On this last theory all spirits were at first conceived of as being the souls of dead men, and from this aboriginal Animism there were gradually developed the various elaborate systems of mythology, demonology, and angelology. But here it is well to distinguish between the facts themselves and the theory devised for their interpretation. It is a fact that these rude forms of worship are found among primitive peoples. But the manner in which they began and the motives of the first prehistoric worshippers are and must remain matters of conjecture.
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:09:39 AM
Jewish Demonology

When we turn from the Avesta to the Sacred Books of the Jews, that is to say to the canonical Scripture, we are struck by the absence of an elaborate demonology such as that of the Persians and Assyrians. There is much, indeed, about the angels of the Lord, the hosts of heaven, the seraphim and cherubim, and other spirits who stand before the throne or minister to men. But the mention of the evil spirits is comparatively slight. Not that their existence is ignored, for we have the temptation by the serpent, in which Jews as well as Christians recognize the work of the Evil Spirit. In Job, again, Satan appears as the tempter and the accuser of the just man; in Kings it is he who incites David to murder the prophet; in Zacharias he is seen in his office of accuser. An evil spirit comes upon the false prophets. Saul is afflicted or apparently possessed, by an evil spirit. The activity of the demon in magic arts is indicated in the works wrought by the magicians of Pharaoh, and in the Levitical laws against wizards or witches. The scapegoat is sent into the wilderness to Azazael, who is supposed by some to be a demon (see DAY OF ATONEMENT), and to this may be added a remarkable passage in Isaias which seems to countenance the common belief that demons dwell in waste places: "And demons and monsters shall meet, and the hairy ones shall cry out one to another, there hath the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself" (Isaiah 34:14). It is true that the Hebrew here rendered by "demons" may merely mean wild animals. But on the other hand, the Hebrew which is rendered very literally as "hairy ones" is translated "demons" by Targum and Peshitta, and is supposed to mean a goat shaped deity analogous to the Greek Pan. And "lamia" represents the original Lilith, a spirit of the night who in Hebrew legend is the demon wife of Adam.

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:11:27 AM
Jewish Demonology

A further development of the demonology of the Old Testament is seen in the Book of Tobias, which though not included in the Jewish Canon was written in Hebrew or Chaldean, and a version in the latter language has been recovered among some rabbinical writings. Here we have the demon Asmodeus who plays the part assigned to demons in many ethnic demonologies and folk-legends. He has been identified by some good authorities with the Aeshmo Daeva of the Avesta; but Whitehouse doubts this identification and prefers the alternative Hebrew etymology. In any case Asmodeus became a prominent figure in later Hebrew demonology, and some strange tales told about him in the Talmud are quite in the vein of "The Arabian Nights".

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:15:04 AM
Jewish Demonology

This notice of a union between mankind and beings of a different order had long been a familiar feature in pagan mythology and demonology, and, as will presently appear, some early Christian commentators discovered some countenance for it in Genesis, vi, 2, which tells how the sons of God "took to themselves wives of the daughters of men".

One characteristic of Jewish demonology was the amazing multitude of the demons. According to all accounts every man has thousands of them at his side. The air is full of them, and, since they were the causes of various diseases, it was well that men should keep some guard on their mouths lest, swallowing a demon, they might be afflicted with some deadly disease. This may recall the common tendency to personify epidemic diseases and speak of "the cholera fiend", "the influenza fiend", etc. And it may be remarked that the old superstition of these Jewish demonologists presents a curiously close analogy to the theory of modern medical science. For we now know that the air is full of microbes and germs of disease, and that by inhaling any of these living organisms we receive the disease into our systems.

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:28:55 AM
Ba'al-zebub (on the right) being cast out of Heaven by the Archangel Michael. Ba'al-zebub was thought to have been part of the celestial rank of Seraphim prior to being cast out of Heaven with Lucifer.


Ba’al-zebub also known as Beelzebub, Baalzebub, Bealzebub and Beelzebul was the name of a pagan god of the Philistine city of Ekron .

“Lord of the Flies” is the English language translation of the Hebrew word Ba’al zevuv. The name Baal Zebub consists of two parts: The first word ba’al meaning owner, lord or husband. The second word zebub meaning “fly” (insect).

In the Old Tastemant ,Ba’al zebub mentioned only in connection with the illness of Ahaziah, king of Israel. In The Book Of Kings when King Ahaziah of Israel fell ill, he sent messengers to call upon Ba’al zebub for a prognosis and was rebuked by the prophet Elijah for doing so as mention in The Book of Kings 2 1:2-3 -

” Now Ahaziah had fallen through the lattice of his upper room in Samaria and injured himself. So he sent messengers, saying to them, “Go and consult Baal-Zebub, the god of Ekron, to see if I will recover from this injury. But the angel of the LORD said to Elijah the Tishbite, “Go up and meet the messengers of the king of Samaria and ask them, ‘Is it because there is no God in Israel that you are going off to consult Baal-Zebub, the god of Ekron?”

In Rabbinical Literature, Ba’al- zebub was worshiped in the shape of a fly, and so addicted were the Jews to his cult, that they would carry an image of him in their pockets, producing it, and kissing it from time to time. According to the Rabbis, Ba’al -zebub is also called Ba’al-berith because such Jews might be said to make a covenant (“Berit“) of devotion with the idol, being unwilling to part with it for a single moment.

Catholic Demonology

In Catholic demonology, is one of the seven princes of Hell according to Catholic views on Hell.

http://blog.eteacherbiblical.com/2009/07/22/demons-in-jewish-mythology-baal-zebub/ (http://blog.eteacherbiblical.com/2009/07/22/demons-in-jewish-mythology-baal-zebub/)

Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 08:38:58 AM


When looking at how Catholic demonologists, exorcists, and deliverance ministers speak of how a demon acts upon a human, one will often hear the preposition “IN" used. Similarly, even when Christ exorcised possessed people in the Gospels we read that he commanded the Demons to, “Come OUT." If a demon is INSIDE of a human being, and is commanded to come out, does this mean that he occupies a particular space - literally - inside that person? Actually, we believe this is a rather complicated area to explain.
In the strictest sense, an Angel as well as a Demon (who of course is a fallen angel), does not occupy space and time as we have said in other sections of this website. We believe, from the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas, that the demon ACTS UPON THE PERSON in certain real ways. However, it is also true that in a very real sense - he is indeed “inside" the person in the case of possession, just not in a literal, physical sense; as though if one were to surgically operate on a human being who is possessed, he might locate the demon in the person's colon! It is not accurate to think of this in that way. Yet, it remains that it is accurate to say that the demon is INSIDE the person and must be ordered - or exorcised OUT of him or her.  Thus, the demon does “enter" a human, as we read in the Gospel account of the Passover: “Then Satan ENTERED into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve..." (Luke 22:3). In an attempt to avoid this confusion this is why you will hear exorcists and demonologists use the term ATTACHMENT to describe this Demonic presence. It is a term most people today can understand.
Remember that humans are both visible (physical) and invisible (soul and spirit). A demon, who is a pure spirit by nature, acts upon the physical aspect of the human in a tangible but spiritual way during possession and other forms of extraordinary demonic influence (also known as DEMONIZATION - literally: “to have a demon" ).
Some experts believe that the demon can “enter" the Human through their eyes, or through the nape of the back of the neck - which is a crucial part of humans' central nervous system where the brain stem meets the spinal cord. Even though the Demon may enter by way of a specific area or feature of the body, he still in the strictest sense is ACTING UPON upon that human's locomotive aspects in the cases of possession.


Ecce crucem Domini. Fugite, partes adversae.
Vincit Leo de tribu Juda.
(Behold the Cross of the Lord. Let the enemy flee.
 The Lion of the tribe of Judah conquers.)

Retrieved from:
http://www.romancatholicdemonology.com/satandemons.html (http://www.romancatholicdemonology.com/satandemons.html)

Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: islander on October 24, 2013, 09:31:06 AM
if memory serves me right, my understanding (because i was told by a priest more than 2 decades ago) is that demonology was a subject in seminaries, pre-vatican 2.  that must have been in line with the idea that one should know one's enemy.

purportedly this was dropped as a subject for those studying for the priesthood in keeping with the belief that the 7 gifts of the holy spirit, including the gift of exorcism, can be had by anyone, laymen included.

i wish fr chic is around to either confirm or negate this understanding of mine.
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
This is an interesting subject. When I was in college, I took an college elective on comparative religions, particularly the three Abrahamic religions. Professor Timothy Solomon, who was then an assistant professor of religious studies at Allegheny College, opined that the study of demons was necessary in rabbinical schools. While training in rabbinical colleges, jewish scholars are taught of the prevalence of demons around the created world. During the course, students in the class had a discussion on personal experiences with these spirits. I remember the hairs on my back rising when hearing the personal anecdotes of some of my classmates.

I don't know if demonology is still taught in Catholic seminaries; it is still taught, and is a required course in rabbinical schools.

Its interesting to see how Angels that were once exalted in their celestial positions -- changed into the antithesis of their formers. The mere fact that even Thrones, Powers, Seraphims, and even Principalities were also cast out with Lucifer is scary. As such great power and influence are attributed to Principalities, Thrones and Powers.


Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 09:53:16 AM
Sébastien Michaëlis was a French inquisitor and prior of the Dominican order who lived during the late 16th and early 17th centuries. Michaelis wrote of the hierarchies of the demons in Hell. In 1613 Sebastien Michaelis wrote a book, Marvelous History, which included a classification of demons as it was told to him by the demon Berith when he was exorcising a nun, according to the author. This classification is based on the Pseudo-Dionysian hierarchies, according to the sins the devil tempts one to commit, and includes the demons' adversaries (who suffered that temptation without falling).

Note that many demons' names are exclusively French or unknown in other catalogs. St. John the Baptist and St. John the Evangelist are the two St. Johns to whom Michaelis refers.

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 09:56:09 AM

The first hierarchy includes angels that were or are Seraphim, Cherubim and Thrones.

Beelzebub was a prince of the Seraphim, just below Lucifer. Beelzebub, along with Lucifer and Leviathan, were the first three angels to fall. He tempts men with pride and is opposed by St. Francis of Assisi.

Leviathan was also a prince of the Seraphim who tempts people to give into heresy, and is opposed by St. Peter.

Asmodeus was also a prince of the Seraphim and reportedly continues to be one, burning with desire to tempt men into wantonness. He is opposed by St. John the Baptist.

Berith was a prince of the Cherubim. He tempts men to commit homicide, and to be quarrelsome, contentious, and blasphemous. He is opposed by St. Barnabas.

Astaroth was a prince of Thrones, who tempts men to be lazy and is opposed by St. Bartholomew.

Verrine was also prince of Thrones, just below Astaroth. He tempts men with impatience and is opposed by St. Dominic.

Gressil was the third prince of Thrones, who tempts men with impurity and is opposed by St. Bernard.

Sonneillon was the fourth prince of Thrones, who tempts men to hate and is opposed by St. Stephen.

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 10:03:47 AM

The second hierarchy includes Powers, Dominions, and Virtues.

Carreau was a prince of Powers. He tempts men with hardness of heart and is opposed by SS. Vincent and Vincent Ferrer
Carnivean was also a prince of Powers. He tempts men to obscenity and shamelessness, and is opposed by John the Evangelist.
Oeillet was a prince of Dominions. He tempts men to break the vow of poverty and is opposed by St. Martin.

Rosier was the second in the order of Dominions. He tempts men against sexual purity and is opposed by St. Basil.
Belias was the prince of Virtues. He tempts men with arrogance and women to be vain, raise their children as wantons, and gossip during mass. He is opposed by St. Francis de Paul.

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 10:08:07 AM

The third hierarchy includes Principalities, Archangels, and Angels.

Olivier was the prince of the Archangels. He tempts men with cruelty and mercilessness toward the poor and is opposed by St. Lawrence.

Luvart was prince of Angels. At the time of Michaelis's writing, Luvart was believed to be in the body of a Sister Madeleine.

Verrier was the prince of Principalities. He tempts men against the vow of obedience and is opposed by St. Bernard.

http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/testamen.htm (http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/testamen.htm)

Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 10:16:32 AM
It is unfathomable how these celestial beings, who were once beloved by The Lord God, would turn on The Lord's Love and side with Lucifer to depose the Lord Our God. How did such celestial beings , some of whom beheld the Lord God through the beatific vision, would dare to oppose the Creator of the Universe? Why did they forsake their Father's Love ? Did they not know that it is impossible to win such a war with the Lord of Hosts ? 

May God rebuke them !
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 10:22:32 AM
Someone asked the same question , and the question was answered by Catholic.com:


Revelation 12:7-9 says Lucifer and his angels fought against God and were cast out of heaven. Since Lucifer was a highly intelligent creature--not to mention the fact that he had an intimate knowledge of God--I can't comprehend how he (or any angel for that matter) could rebel against God. That seems to be utterly insane. What was the particular sin that Lucifer and the angels allied with him committed?


You're right in characterizing Lucifer's rebellion as an insane act. Don't forget that, although Lucifer had a superabundance of spiritual gifts, he was also endowed, as we are, with the gift of free will. God left him free to choose good over evil, and, as we know, he chose evil.

Consider Adam and Eve. Before the Fall they possessed immortality, control over their passions and appetites, the complete integrity of their wills, as well as a human intelligence far superior to that which we have now. Yet, like Lucifer, they chose to commit a mortal sin. This means God allowed them to exercise their free will.

As for the particular sin the bad angels committed, many theologians believe that in their pre-fallen state the angels were given a foreknowledge of humans (who would be inferior to them), as well as a foreknowledge that God himself (the second Person of the Trinity) would be incarnated as a man and redeem the universe through his death on the cross.

This revelation angered Lucifer because it meant he and the other angels would have to worship God incarnate. Lucifer and the other angels who fell were so proud of being superior to men that their overweening arrogance wouldn't allow them to worship Jesus Christ the God-Man. This refusal--this non serviam--stemmed from pride. That, anyway, is the theologian's theory.

Answer Catholic
Retrieved from:
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/how-could-lucifer-an-archangel-have-rebelled-against-god (http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/how-could-lucifer-an-archangel-have-rebelled-against-god)
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 24, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
This revelation angered Lucifer because it meant he and the other angels would have to worship God incarnate. Lucifer and the other angels who fell were so proud of being superior to men that their overweening arrogance wouldn't allow them to worship Jesus Christ the God-Man. This refusal--this non serviam--stemmed from pride.

Mao gajod. The sin of pride. It was their pride; they refused to worship God made Incarnate because they felt that they (being Angels and divine) were superior to man. Pride, truly, is the root of all evil. It was pride that changed angels into demons...

May God rebuke them !
May God protect all of us !
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: hubag bohol on October 24, 2013, 11:26:07 AM
Botitoy the little demon

Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 25, 2013, 02:25:28 PM

According to the Book of Enoch (which is currently only canonical in the Eritrean and Ethiopian Orthodox Churches but was referred to by the early Church fathers), the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim are demons. Enoch explains;

"And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits (Angels) and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.] And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them. From the days of the slaughter and destruction and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth, shall destroy without incurring judgement". (I Enoch 15:8-12, 16:1 R.H. Charles)/quote]

retrieved from:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_demonology
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 25, 2013, 02:30:30 PM

Demonic supernatural powers are believed to include psychokinesis, levitation, divination, possession, ESP, telepathy, witchcraft and curses, as well as superhuman strength, controlling the classical elements, animal control and provocation. Demons use variants and combinations of these powers to harass, demoralize, confuse, and disorient the victim, or the willing subject of demonic interest.

Demons are believed to have the power to physically or mentally hurt people, but only within the boundaries of what God will allow. Demons can destroy any material on the earth; these supernatural powers are always inferior to the power of God. God may use His will to cancel or destroy any effect the demon chooses to invoke. According to the gospels, Jesus also had full power over demons, and they always obeyed his commands when he told them what to do, as opposed to a more general sense in which demons only do that which God tells them to.[12] Often Demons are said to create negative emotions, wreaking havoc, ensuing chaos, and disrupting peace.

Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 25, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
Testament of Solomon

The Testament of Solomon is an Old Testament pseudepigraphical work ascribed to King Solomon of Jerusalem. The text is only found in Christian sources and is not in the Jewish Tanakh or other Jewish sources. It describes how Solomon was enabled to build his Temple by commanding demons by means of a magical ring entrusted to him by the Archangel Michael.


When a demon named Ornias harasses a young lad (who is favored by Solomon) by stealing half his pay and sucking out his vitality through the thumb on his right hand, Solomon prays in the temple and receives from the archangel Michael a ring with the seal of God (in the shape of a Pentalpha) on it which will enable him to command the demons (c.f. Seal of Solomon). Solomon lends the ring to the lad who, by throwing the ring at the demon Ornias, stamps him with the seal and brings him under control. Then Solomon orders the demon Ornias to take the ring and similarly imprint the prince of demons who is Beelzebul.

With Beelzebul under his command Solomon now has the entire race of demons at his bidding to build the temple. Beelzebul reveals he was formerly the highest ranking angel in Heaven.

In Chapter 18 the demons of the 36 decans appear with names that sometimes seem to be conscious distortions of the traditional names for the decans and claim responsibility mostly for various ailments and pains. They provide the magical formulae by which they may be banished. For example, the thirty-third demon is Rhyx Achoneoth who causes sore throat and tonsilitis and can be driven off by writing the word Leikourgos on ivy leaves and heaping them into a pile.

Solomon's final demon encounter involves sending a servant boy with his ring to take captive a wind demon who is harassing the land of Arabia. The boy is to hold a wineskin against the wind with the ring in front of it, and then tie up the bag when it is full. The boy succeeds in his task and returns with the wineskin. The imprisoned demon calls himself Ephippas, and it is by his power that a cornerstone, thought to be too large to lift, is raised into the entrance of the temple.

Then Ephippas and another demon from the Red Sea bring a miraculous column made of something purple (translation obscure) from out of the Red Sea. This Red Sea demon reveals himself as Amelouith who claimed to be the demon who supported the Egyptian magicians against Moses and who hardened Pharaoh's heart but had been caught with the Egyptian host when the sea returned and held down by this pillar until Ephippas came and together they could lift it.

There follows a short conclusion in which Solomon describes how he fell in love with a Shunammite woman and agreed to worship Remphan and Moloch.[2] Solomon agrees to sacrifice to them, but only sacrifices the blood of locust by simply crushing them with his hand. Immediately, the Spirit of God departs from him, and he is made foolish and his name a joke to both humans and demons.

The Testament of Solomon presents the Queen of Sheba as a witch, indicating that the author had an awareness of Jewish tradition, which had argued the same.
Solomon concludes his text with a warning to mankind. He reminds mankind not to be like he was, to be both aware of the present and the future, and to understand the consequences of your actions before you act.

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Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on October 25, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
Testament of Solomon

Christian themes

Perhaps the most intriguing Christian theme found inside the text was during King Solomon's encounter with the demon Ephippas. While working on the temple, Ephippas is asked by Solomon why he is frustrated. The demon replies that he is concerned over the only thing that can truly take away his powers and defeat him. It was going to be a man born of a virgin who will be crucified on a cross by the Romans prodded on by the Jews. The "prediction" is an indication that this story was circulated and modified by Christians.

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Title: Pope Francis allegedly performs an exorcism in St. Peter's Square
Post by: Lorenzo on December 12, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MW1bNGNg30#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MW1bNGNg30#ws)
Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on December 12, 2013, 10:56:22 AM
What are the views of some Catholic priests on this notion of demonology and exorcism?

here's an interesting article.

Title: Re: What is demonology?
Post by: Lorenzo on December 12, 2013, 10:57:14 AM
The Catholic Church's top exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth.

The Catholic Church's top exorcist, who claims to have sent 160,000 demons back to hell, says he wants Pope Francis to allow all priests to start performing the ritual to deal with a rising demand for exorcisms from the faithful.

Father Gabriele Amorth, 88, who also heads the International Association of Exorcists, told The Sunday Times that he will ask Pope Francis to allow all priests the right to do exorcisms without the church's approval. According to the report, priests currently need special approval from their bishop to perform the rite and it is rarely granted.

"I will ask the pope to give all priests the power to carry out exorcisms, and to ensure priests are properly trained for these starting with the seminary. There's a huge demand for them," said Father Amorth.

He explained that he was inspired to make the request after watching Pope Francis perform what he insists was an exorcism on a man "possessed by four demons" in St. Peter's Square.

"The pope is also the Bishop of Rome, and like any bishop he is also an exorcist," Amorth reportedly told La Repubblica newspaper. "It was a real exorcism. If the Vatican has denied this, it shows that they understand nothing."

"There was now, more than ever, a need for exorcists to combat people possessed by 'sorcerers' and 'Satanists,'" he noted in that report.

An 84-page update of exorcism rites compiled in 1614 and drawn up in 1998 stipulates how Catholic priests trained as exorcists should operate. According to the guidelines established by the church, they have to follow a ritual known as "De exorcismis et supplicationibus quibusdam," or "Of exorcisms and certain supplications."

Amorth explained that Pope Francis' exorcism on May 19 helped to balance the growing atheism in the world where people don't believe in the Devil anymore.

"We live in an age in which God has been forgotten. And wherever God is not present, the Devil rules," said Amorth.

"Today, unfortunately, bishops don't appoint sufficient exorcists. We need many more. I hope that Rome will send out directives to bishops around the world calling on them to appoint more exorcists."

Amorth is also an outspoken critic of yoga and Harry Potter books and dismissed them as ungodly hobbies.

"Practicing yoga brings evil as does reading Harry Potter. They may both seem innocuous but they both deal with magic and that leads to evil," he said.

In addressing Harry Potter, he said: "People think it is an innocuous book for children but it's about magic and that leads to evil. In Harry Potter the Devil is at work in a cunning and crafty way, he is using his extraordinary powers of magic and evil."

"Satan is always hidden and the thing he desires more than anything is for people to believe he does not exist," he noted. "He studies each and every one of us and our tendencies towards good and evil and then he tempts us."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-churchs-top-exorcist-claims-he-rid-world-of-160000-demons-96794/ (http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-churchs-top-exorcist-claims-he-rid-world-of-160000-demons-96794/)
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