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How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« on: December 18, 2012, 01:25:55 AM »
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How can I explain the Trinity to a "Oneness" Pentecostal who says that Jesus is the only God and that the Father and the Holy Spirit are manifestations and not different persons of the Divinity? And how can I explain baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost when this person insists on Acts 2:38, repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus? He claims the name of the three persons, or manifestations in his view, is Jesus.

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Re: How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 01:26:28 AM »
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In Matthew 28:19 Jesus explicitly commands his apostles to baptize in the name of the Trinity. This is where the Church received the Trinitarian formula. It wasn’t some pope’s idea. In Acts 2:38 the author is not presenting a liturgical formula. He is concerned with distinguishing Christ’s baptism from John the Baptist’s. The practice of the early Church was thoroughly Trinitarian.

For further information, go to www.catholic.com/library/Trinitarian_Baptism.asp.


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Re: How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 09:21:50 AM »
Trinity means three persons in One God, co -existence and co equal with each other.

The doctrine of the Trinity can be summed up as follows:  Within the one Being that is God, there exist eternally three coequal and coeternal Persons, namely, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.[1] In order to prove this doctrine we must believe the following:
 
There is only one God
The Father is God
Jesus is God
The Holy Spirit is God
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons.
 

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Re: How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 03:36:50 PM »
i don't bother.  a dyed-in-the-wool oneness pentecostal won't listen anyway.  one thing with religion-- and i believe these times are for living the faith instead of basic evangelization-- is that one uses one's doctrinal knowledge of one's faith to defend that faith, not to be convinced of what a believer of another faith is saying.  i might as well talk to my cat. 

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Re: How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 03:43:59 PM »
about 10 years ago, i went to a public health office because i was told that the doctors there were the only practitioners of acupuncture in that locality.  i told them what it was in me that i wanted to be treated with acupuncture (cigarette smoking).  served me right...

all at once, they (there were three of them) hovered around me with the admonition that i smoked because the devil was at work in the core of my being.  i needed praying over and not acupuncture, they said.

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Re: How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 03:51:21 PM »
not wanting to insult them with their good intentions but bad means (ugh, they weren't paid by the government to spread their new-found fundamentalist faith), i agreed.  prayer from any christian faith is as good as my catholic prayers anyway.  but i looked out the window and saw a chapel right beside that clinic.  i came to the wrong building then, i thought to myself.

they charged me a good amount (for the prayers?), i insisted on a receipt, and was told by the receptionist that if only i could stay longer because they knew that my soul needed to be saved urgently.

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Re: How can I explain the Trinity to a Oneness Pentecostal?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 03:59:55 PM »
i went out feeling stupid, lighted a cigarette, and wondered what hit me.

i promised myself right there and then never to go back to that clinic.  in case they try to follow up my spiritual treatment (whew!) with a call, having given my personal details for their record, i promised too that that would be the time when i'll tell them to back off or i'll write to newspapers about their operating on government time and government money to recruit adherents to their religion whose name i missed.

that's why i never want to discuss religion with anyone of a different faith.  it is an endless and ultimately useless discussion, convincing no one, much less me.

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