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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2012, 04:46:13 PM »

ang balikas nga maikogan ug sungayan gyod kag ahat: tsingoy botoy tagoytoy motsokoy okoy. ;D

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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2012, 04:47:46 PM »

isumbong ta kang lolo, kadtong nakig-blood compact nga katsila... ;D

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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2012, 04:53:29 PM »

rightly so, though i was never comfortable because i don't speak like a real bol-anon, feeling like the perpetual outsider wherever i am.  when i'm in bohol i'm taken as cebuano.  in cebu as a child i was a waray.  as an adult in cebu i'm boholano.  outside the country, i'm either chinese or japanese.  at least, to my cats, i'm a human being.  i wonder what i'd be to the martians. ;D

i'll be off for awhile.  time to feed those cats at the third floor.  see you later, guys.

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Murag kaliwat ra jud dagway mi ni Yoyoy kay si magellan ingtikbasan man to ug wala to kaliwat. Maglisod man ko moangkon ug chinese ko ug kaliwat kay dako jud ko ug mata pero akong uban igsoon tsaynis ug mata apil mga ig agaw. Matsaynis ra ko ug mokaon ko daghan ginamos hehehe pagka ugma ang mata sure tsaynis.
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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2012, 10:23:48 PM »
He he he, as a child I attended Bohol Wisdom School, which is a Chinese-school there in Tagbilaran. I remember when I went there as a child, most of my friends were Chinese-Filipinos. It is true that Chinese do try to stick to their own. Perhaps it is a cultural trait noh? Anyways, I do try to keep in contact with them.

There was a girl who I had a crush on back then. Her family name was Do. When I had facebook two years ago, I tried searching for her and had found her. Sayang kai naa na siya'y nobio. Inchik pod. :P

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« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2012, 10:27:59 PM »

Selective chinese a la genamos diay ka, Raquel. ha ha ha!

On a serious note tho, it's really tricky when trying to find one's parental ancestry. Phenotypical appearance can try to hide what is genotypically true. The trick to finalizing proof is finding papers of one's ancestor's entry point into the country.

I have a friend at work who is Pinoy, he looks more inchikon than I, pero he is pure pinoy. Segoro hilig ra siya mo kaon og ginamos na pait zamo. ;D

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I shall see you later, isles. i did enjoy discussing with you about this topic. and in addition, thank you for sharing with me and the rest of the forum about the domestic history of dimiao. i learned something new today.

Have a good day! 

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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2012, 10:35:22 PM »

Then I wish that you will see your friend again in the near future. There is great joy when two friends cross paths again. :)

PS. I'm sure your friend does think of you -- as you do about her. :)

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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2012, 10:43:03 PM »
A modern day Wàh fèi [Chinese-Filipino]:


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President Benigno Aquino III, who is part Chinese, posing with other Wàh fèi at a Filipino-Chinese Chamber of Commerce economic symposium

The influence of Chinese-Filipinos in Philippine politics and finance, made manifest. :)

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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2012, 11:09:35 PM »

Thank you, isles, for that answer. I want to repost your statemen here in this page so that we can read it -- and not be hid in the previous posts.

I have another question for you, Isles. Why is it that the Chinese, who were placed in the lowest position in the social class -- were able to climb up the ladder so vibrantly and so much that there is a perception in Filipino society that Chinese are "wealthy" or "datu".

Why is this not true for say, the African-Americans , who were descendants of slaves in the United States. Why did not the African-Americans climb up the social class ladder in the United States as well as the Chinese did in the Philippines.

Can you explain to me, and perhaps for all of us, why the Chinese were capable of doing it and some other races not? To give you some information, in the United States society, African Americans have one of the lowest per capita in the United States. Asian Americans are the highest earners, followed by White Americans, and then African Americans & Latin Americans.

Of the Asian Americans, the Chinese-Americans are one of the highest and most dynamic groups. In fact Chinese-Americans are the most populous of the Asian-American groups.

So to reiterate my question again for you to answer: Why is this not true for say, the African-Americans , who were descendants of slaves in the United States. Why did not the African-Americans climb up the social class ladder in the United States as well as the Chinese did in the Philippines?

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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2012, 11:17:22 PM »
Apparently, wealthy and influential nature of Chinese immigrants into the Philippines is not just a Filipino trait. The Chinese who live in other south east asian countries dominate the economic sector in those countries and are quite wealthy. For example Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia.

This is quite interesting. I'd like to know the reason for their success. Why are the Chinese immigrants capable of overtaking and out-performing their host neighbors?

Id like to know the independent variables that have influenced the dependent variable -- economic success.

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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2012, 11:28:54 PM »

That is a good answer. But if I may ask you another question lang, Isles. I hope you don't mind my questions as I would like to know more lang pod.

I accept the fact that the Chinese had to work hard when they entered into the host country, the Philippines. However, both the immigrant Chinese worked as hard as the native Filipino who lived in the bukid, or, the Filipino squatter who moved to Manila to find a job.

Why did the former, the chinese immigrant, succeed whereas the latter did not in relations to the former? Did not the squatter , or the bukidnon work as hard, or even harder than the chinese? Do you think there was some kind of cultural upbringing the chinese had that influenced him / her to save more ?

I don't credit education here. Because the Chinese immigrant came to the philippines were uneducated. They were in the same playing field as many of the native filipinos. In fact the native filipinos had an advantage as they were given preferential treatment by the spaniards as compared to the chinese, whom the spaniards disdained so fervently. anti-chinese laws that the spanish crown implemented were even akin to the american jim crowe laws of post-antebellum period.

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« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2012, 05:47:21 AM »
Hanging out in downtown New York City with my friend from medical school. Chinoy pod ni sija.

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post-antebellum period[/b].
Hmm, post-antebellum period? What's "post-antebellum"? ::)

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« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2012, 11:29:10 AM »

That's a good question, Hubs. The Antebellum period refers to the time period prior to the American Civil War, a time when slavery was still legal in certain parts of the United States, specifically in the southern states, which were against northern reforms to abolish slavery.

Post-Antebellum refers to the time period after the American Civil War.

After the American Civil War, and with the passing of the Emancipation Proclamation , which abolished slavery in the United States, the African slaves were freed from bondage. With the collapse of the Confederate States of America (the rebellious states), the Federal government implemented reforms to build the south.

However, the local governments in the south continued to repress the African-Americans with the passing of Jim Crowe Laws. Such laws limited the voting rights of African Americans , separated the mingling of blacks with whites. It was akin to Spanish laws during colonial Philippines that prevented Chinese integration into the country.

I hope that helps. :)


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The Spanish Crown's Policy Towards the Chinese in Colonial Philippines







In dealing with the Chinese, Spain's policies revealed the basic compromise between religious-cultural ideals and economic interest decreed the presence of Chinese merchants and artisans, who filled occupations which the Spaniards scorned and for which the indios were believed unsuited. No less necessary was the China-Manila trade carried on by the Chinese, as part of the Manila Galleon trading system, in which many powerful Spanish residents had sizable investments. There were also the taxes and miscellaneous contributions of the Chinese, of interest both to government and to private individuals and institutions.

Balanced against economic interest was the mandate to Catholicize and hispanize the Philippines and all its inhabitants. It appeared to the Spaniards that the Chinese could not easily be converted or hispanized.

Moreover, intimate contact between unconverted Chinese and barely-converted indios stood as a possible threat to the lasting conversion of the latter, which was, after-all, the major Spanish concern.

Within a few years after the Spanish conquests of the Philippines, the relations between Chinese and Spaniards fell into a pattern of distrust and latent hostility. Basic to this pattern was a prevailing condition of economic interdependence coupled with seemingly irreconcilable cultural differences. Within this context, the term "sangley", the Spanish name for the Chinese immigrants, quickly came to apply to any individual stereotype and the Chinese became not simply one of two ethnic groups of equal status under the Spanish, but a despised cultural minority.

While considered a cultural minority in the Spanish plan, the Chinese were still, compared with the Spaniards, a numerical majority and hence potentially dangerous. Thus, if the indios seemed to need protection from the Chinese for religious-cultural reasons, no less dd the Manila Spaniards need it for security reasons. Therefore, as Spain's Chinese policy took form there were three major elements: 1) Taxation , 2) Control, 3) Conversion.



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Wickberg, Edgar. (2000). The Chinese in Philippine Life 1850-1898.
Ateneo De Manila University Press



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