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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 03:01:32 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2012, 03:02:59 PM »

abi nakog portuguese mog kaliwat, sa linya ni magellan nga nasagolan sa linya ni yoyoy. ;D

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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2012, 03:04:02 PM »

may puruhan diay nga either striped or checkered imong panit.  truly exotic. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2012, 03:06:41 PM »

Growing up in the United States, I would ask my mom about our ancestry and our family history. She would say to me, "growing up , it was not popular to ask too much questions about our chinese ancestry...."

It was apparent that the Chinese Filipinos tried hard to assimilate into the general Filipino culture. In my view, it should be prioritized to maintain one's cultural identity -- and not be ashamed of one's heritage. When I went back home to Bohol in 2010, I made it a point to find out more information about my mom's side. Luckily for me my Uncle Romeo had kept a picture of my Lolo Mariano -- his old immigration documents-- when he immigrated to the Philippines i 1903.

My Uncle asked me why I was so interested in the history. We shared so many conversations at night-- mostly about my grand father and my grandmother , his sharing with me of the stories how my Lolo Mariano carried the church bells to the bell tower in Valencia Parish. Stories of how he talked like, the songs he used to sing to his kids, to even how he looked like.

I remember one time when my Uncle Romeo, who was 5 years old when my great grandfather was still alive, he said to me that if Lolo Mariano was alive, he would have loved me -- for my dedication to his memory -- and to his story.

I cried when we had that conversation. I imagine what his voice would have sounded like. No doubt, if i had met him, I would have smiled at hearing his Cantonese accent. Apparently he looked like my Lola Nating. ;D

Had I met my lolo mariano, i would have hugged him, and kissed his cheeks. If he did not migrate to the Philippines, I would not exist.

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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2012, 03:07:48 PM »
My beloved grandmother: Mrs. Fortunata Tan - Salvo

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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2012, 03:11:40 PM »
A portrait of my great grand father, Tan Ngai He (Mariano Tan). He was 22 in this picture. Taken in 1903.
This was his immigration photo.

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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2012, 03:25:25 PM »

that attitude is quite proper.  we must look back because we are what we are due to our forebears.  some form of discrimination about what we are now and then is even positive; it makes us grounded.  it humbles us, which is a good thing.  it's another story if it's humiliating.  at this level, i'll fight to the death. ;D 

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2012, 03:25:49 PM »
the chinese were made to feel unwelcome, even to the point of having their place stoned sureptitiously during the night[/i].  so they bailed out and settled in the nearest big barangay to establish themselves.  this was valencia.

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Laina pod noh? I cannot imagine why they were like this -- as if they were projecting their anger to the Chinese. The native Dimiaonons were looked down upon by the Spaniards for being 'indio / natibo'. Was this their way of projecting their anger by looking down on Chinese?

It's just funny how in the colonial days, the Spaniards , the Spanish-mestisos , and the native filipinos looked down on Chinese people for being "inferior".

Now, these people are marrying rich Chinese-Filipinos. The irony and the hypocrisy. Now, the current elite are the Chinese.


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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2012, 03:32:53 PM »
through the generations, valencia became more vibrant economically, purportedly because of its chinese community, while dimiao stood still in time along with its quiet comfort and, let's face it, music and culture and tradition.  [/b]

we know how a vibrant economic activity affects the whole community.  valencia produced more professionals per capita

today, it is valencia that has its own hospital that serves neighboring towns, including dimiao. 

p.s.  as i read those caratolas in valencia, i noticed too that there really was no filipino-chinese family in dimiao.  i wonder if things are still the same.  i haven't been in those two towns for a long time now (except for those occasional few minutes at the cemeteries to honor the dead).


Very interesting information, Isles. The Chinese are almost very akin to the Jews, in regards to the financial zeal, noh? I remember having a conversation with my gf's father some time ago. The conversation was about Cebu, Bacolod and Iloilo City.

He said to me that Cebu City is truly the "Queen City of the South". But he said something -- in regards to Cebu's financial strength -- the Chinese factor.

Apparently, during the 1950's, there were a lot of Chinese in Iloilo City, but the govermental policies at the time there were not -- favorable -- to them. Because of the xenophobic atmosphere there, the prominent Chinese families of Iloilo City moved to Cebu. He credits Cebu's financial and economic preeminence in the region -- to the massive Chinese community in the province and in the city.

No doubt, the Confucian work ethic that these people kept played a role in Cebu's financial growth. Even now, Cebu is only second to Manila.

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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2012, 03:45:34 PM »

A very good point, Isles. One can't help but link the racial comments as a lingering effect of Hispanization, where the Spanish institutionalized a race-based social structure. With the Spanish Whites , of course, being at the zenith of that social order.

Unfortunately that colonial mentality seems to have lingered ...in the Philippines.

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2012, 03:54:18 PM »

they did.  they do.  this is their home country now.  but such assimilation is only up to a certain point.  this is understandable.  even filipinos in the u.s. assimilate smoothly, yet they celebrate what their home country celebrates, from town fiestas to philippine independence day.  there is this need to make a connection with one's past while we try to live in the present.

here's a personal experience...

years ago, i could even say decades ago, as a young girl in tagbilaran i got to befriend someone from a known local filipino-chinese family.  she's one of the most practical friends i knew.  despite their wealth, she lived simply, sans arrogance or display of material privilege.  that's why we were friends. :D 

anyway (at a time when tagbilaran still didn't have discos and parties with dancing were held in residences), as a friend, she put it to me straight... don't go jamming when it's an invitation from a chinese guy, she warned.  you may notice that there would be no chinese girl in such parties.  we chinese girls are meant for another group, exclusively ours.  when they invite filipino girls, they mean to commit "chancing" and behave less gentlemanly.  (i hope this trend had stopped.)  if we chinese are made as the butt of jokes by filipinos, we chinese also make jokes out of you, she said.  we believe that filipinos are spendthrifts, spending like millionaires even when they don't have money... (i miss this friend; i heard she had settled in the u.s.)

you see, lorenz, discrimination is mutual.   

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2012, 03:55:26 PM »
I would also like to address something, since we touched into this, the issue of colonial mentality being an issue of concern.

Have you noticed how in Filipino media, most , if not all, of the actors and actresses are white-mestiso? It is clear that the overwhelming majority of Filipinos are not white-mestiso, but are indio / natibo. Why are not the malay-looking filipinos ever in philippine cinema and media? Is colonial mentality that strong in the Philippines?

The use of skin whiteners in the Philippines is almost disgusting. Many morena looking women applying these creams -- denying their own natural skin tone and beauty.

A truly sad  effect of colonial mentality. tsk.

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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 03:59:46 PM »

He he, hitsura na lang nako ang Tsaynis; everything else is Bol-anon... ;D
...than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2012, 04:02:29 PM »
A thousand-year-old prophetic portrait of Botoy...


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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2012, 04:05:39 PM »
(i hope this trend had stopped.)[/color]  if we chinese are made as the butt of jokes by filipinos, we chinese also make jokes out of you, she said.  we believe that filipinos are spendthrifts, spending like millionaires even when they don't have money... (i miss this friend; i heard she had settled in the u.s.)

you see, lorenz, discrimination is mutual.   

That's interesting that you posted that, I never knew about that. Well I did hear about the more conservative members of Chinese families in the Philippines where they do try to stick to their own. I know that more of the afluent segments of the Chinese families in the Philippines usually encourage their children to marry Chinese as well. I know this because my great grand father preferred my grandmother  to marry a Chinese, but my Lola fell in love with my Lolo Ciano (who is a pure blooded pinoy from baranggay Anas, Valencia). So by doing this she went against norms.

Your friend has a point tho, Isles. In her defense, her comment reflected her upbringing. It stems back to their Confucian culture in valuing the importance of hard work and saving. I tend to be like that. I try to be very Chinese in regards to my finances. Part of the Confucian cultural upbringing stresses the importance of saving at least 50 % of one's earnings. I'm sure your friend did not mean to insult in any way, but perhaps tried to explain her upbringing.

Yes, I agree with you, that discrimination is an unfortunate effect of misunderstanding.

PS. Have you not tried contacting your friend?

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2012, 04:06:10 PM »

Sayop. Ingon ani ang saktong balikas: Singit ailangdir baho piangao... ;D

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http://narratorium.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BuddhaLaughed_padded1.jpg[/img]


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he he he, do you get the occasional belly rub for good luck? ;D

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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2012, 04:09:40 PM »
this makes me half-dimiaonon[/b].)
Nangangkon baya. Pyur Tsaynis ka nga nadagsa sa Balingsya, oi, ip trut bi told... ;D

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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2012, 04:16:29 PM »
Isles, pure Bol-anon gayod ka. Was not your Mama from Valencia ?

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2012, 04:41:29 PM »

there's no way that i can without contacting her relations, which may put them on the defensive, heaven forbid.  (am i up to something?  some business venture that might need their capital?  hehe, i'm too filipino with enough pride to save myself from such suspicions.  we were friends because we knew how to treat each other's differences and we both exercised mutual trust.  i don't want to dispel that.)

so i wish to meet her again one day only by some coincidence and not by my active moves to seek her out.  that would be good enough for me. 



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