Author Topic: The Government Shutdown Explained (Like You're an Idiot) (Read 1751 times)

hubag bohol · « **on:** October 03, 2013, 11:30:14 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/
Oct. 1, 2013
By RUSSELL GOLDMAN
via Nightline

A National Park Service employee posts a sign on a barricade to close access to the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, Oct. 1, 2013.
Carolyn Kaster/AP Photo

So, it's happened. Congress could not agree on a budget and the U.S. federal government has shut down all non-essential services. Hundreds of thousands of government workers have been furloughed without knowing when they will return to work.

Oh my God! Oh my God! I saw this on "Doomsday Preppers." Total collapse! I knew I should have built that bomb shelter and started hoarding lentils.

Cool your jets. This is far from the apocalypse. The government has not ground to a complete halt. Services deemed essential like Medicare, mail delivery, tax collection and the military will continue to operate. Non-essential departments and employees, like national park rangers and NASA staff (who aren't currently in orbit) will be furloughed. Also, the National Zoo will be closed.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:31:07 AM »

Someone is going to get a very angry tweet about this! If only I knew who to blameâ€¦ and also how this happened.

Every year Congress has to agree on a budget to fund the government. The fiscal year ended on Sept. 30, but Congress was unable come to a consensus about how best to use federal funds. Without a budget â€“ essentially a law passed by both the House of Representatives and the Senate -- to pay employees and fund programs for the new fiscal year, the government effectively shut down at midnight on Oct. 1.

Despite several last minute attempts, lawmakers could not even agree to a stopgap measure that would fund the government temporarily.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:31:57 AM »

Those guys can never agree on anything. And now they're going to let all the animals at the National Zoo starve to death. Those poor pandas! Why couldn't they just make a deal?

Firstly, all of the animals will be fed and taken care of. The pandacam, however, will be shut down.

The sticking point in the negotiations was funding the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, the president's signature piece of legislation that would increase the number of Americans who receive health insurance by requiring them to buy it.

The House is controlled by Republicans, whose Tea Party faction is wholly opposed to Obamacare. They've tried to use the budget as leverage to defund or delay Obamacare.

Every budget they sent to the Senate for approval was bounced back, because the Senate is controlled by Democrats who want see Obamacare succeed.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:32:45 AM »

So after all that Obamacare is going to be defunded anyway?

No. Obamacare will not be affected by the shutdown. In fact, the online marketplaces to buy insurance went live at midnight, just as the rest of the government shut down.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:33:25 AM »

I'm sure this sort of thing has never happened before. I would have heard about the zombies.

There won't be any zombies. (Hopefully, anyway. The CDC is shutting down.) But, there have been shutdowns in the past, usually not lasting more than a few days at a time. The most recent shutdown was in 1996, when President Bill Clinton and House Republicans led by Speaker Newt Gingrich could not reach a deal. That shutdown lasted nearly a month.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:33:55 AM »

So now what happens?

We have to wait for one side to blink and agree to cut a deal. Lawmakers are back at it today. On Monday night the House decided to form a "bipartisan committee" to come up with a proposal, but if any part of that deal includes defunding Obamacare, the Senate will reject it. Federal employees will continue to go unpaid until a budget is struck.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:34:21 AM »

But in the meantime, all Americans can just break the law free of consequence and don't have to go work?

No. No. No! You're an idiot.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:38:25 AM »

Obama, congressional leaders still deadlocked on shutdown
By Jeff Mason and Thomas Ferraro
WASHINGTON | Wed Oct 2, 2013 7:57pm EDT

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama met with Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress on Wednesday to try to break a deadlock that has shut down wide swaths of the federal government, but there was no breakthrough.

After more than an hour of talks, House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner said Obama refused to negotiate, while House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid accused Republicans of trying to hold the president hostage over Obamacare.

Reid said Obama told Republicans "he will not stand" for their tactics.

As hundreds of thousands of federal employees faced a second day without pay, leaders of the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic-led Senate offered token concessions that were quickly dismissed by the other side. Obama, meanwhile, scaled back a long-planned trip to Asia.

Republicans have tried to tie continued government funding to measures that would undercut Obama's signature healthcare law. Obama and his Democrats say that is a non-starter.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:39:45 AM »

"The president reiterated one more time that he will not negotiate," Boehner told reporters after the White House meeting. "All we're asking for here is a discussion and fairness for the American people under Obamacare."

Reid said Democrats were willing to discuss any ways to tackle the budget after a temporary funding bill is passed. "We're through playing these little games," he said.

The shutdown, which took effect Monday at midnight (0400 GMT Tuesday), has raised questions about Washington's ability to carry out its most essential duties.

Though it would do relatively little damage to the world's largest economy in the short term, global markets could be roiled if Congress also fails to raise the debt limit before borrowing authority runs out in coming weeks.

The shutdown has closed landmarks like the Grand Canyon and prevented some cancer patients from receiving cutting-edge treatment.

United Technologies Corp, which makes Sikorsky helicopters and other items for the military, said it would be forced to furlough as many as 4,000 employees, if the U.S. government shutdown continues through next week, due to the absence of government quality inspectors.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:40:58 AM »

OBAMA EXASPERATED

"Am I exasperated? Absolutely I'm exasperated. Because this is entirely unnecessary," Obama told CNBC television in an interview before meeting the congressional leaders. "I am exasperated with the idea that unless I say to 20 million people, 'You can't have health insurance,' these folks will not reopen the government. That is irresponsible."

The U.S. Army's top general said the shutdown was significantly harming day-to-day operations, and intelligence leaders say it is undermining their ability to monitor threats. A Federal Reserve official said it could delay the central bank's ability to assess whether its monetary stimulus efforts are still needed.

The uncertainty in Washington has forced the White House to scale back an Asia trip that was designed to reinforce U.S. commitment to the region.

Obama scuttled two stops on a planned four-country tour and left visits to two other countries up in the air. He was due to leave on Saturday and return a week later.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:41:36 AM »

Secretary of State John Kerry will visit Malaysia and the Philippines in his place. Obama is weighing whether to attend diplomatic summits in Indonesia and Brunei, a White House official said.

Despite the disruption, Boehner's Republicans have failed to derail Obama's controversial healthcare law, which passed a milestone on Tuesday when it began signing up uninsured Americans for subsidized health coverage.

Though some moderate Republicans have begun to question their party's strategy, Boehner so far has kept them united behind a plan to offer a series of small bills that would re-open select parts of the government most visibly affected by the shutdown.

The Republican-controlled House passed and sent to the Senate a funding bill that would re-open the National Institutes of Health, which conducts medical research, and another bill to reopen shuttered federal parks and museums, such as the Smithsonian museums, the National Gallery of Art and the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

Both bills passed with the support of about two-dozen Democrats, who joined Republicans. The House was expected to vote Thursday on measures to fund veterans' care, the District of Colombia and the Army Reserve.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:41:56 AM »

The measures are likely to be defeated in the Democratic-controlled Senate, and Obama said he would veto them if they reached his desk.

Still, they allowed Republicans to charge that their adversaries are standing in the way of help for elderly veterans and young cancer patients. "Will they now say 'no' to funding for veterans, our National Parks and the National Institutes of Health?" asked Boehner spokesman Michael Steel.

Reid told Republicans he would engage in talks about tax reform, farm policy and other pressing issues that Congress has failed to address once Republicans agreed to re-open the government without conditions. Republicans dismissed that idea.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll indicated that 24 percent of Americans blamed Republicans for the shutdown, while 19 percent blamed Obama or Democrats. Another 46 percent said everyone was to blame.

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moneytree · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2013, 03:33:18 PM »

di na ka mag mahay unsay ahong buhaton ha. i gave you all the chances, karon imo na pod kong gi headline

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2013, 04:57:21 PM »

Go scratch your balls if you have any left, you miserable excuse of a human being. I have better things to do.

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moneytree · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2013, 05:01:13 PM »

like....

go away please go, before you throw your life away. i did not throw away my wife. she left me.

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moneytree · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2013, 05:11:01 PM »

dili na kinhangang abogon pa ko ni hubag dinhi sa TBnation. i will go away of my own free will. sauna gi ban man ko ni mike. just glad he let me back in. pero gi samokan na ko nimo hubag. gi tripingan man jud ko nimo. sabta lang unsay ahong ipa sabot. in the POWER of DREAMS. no words necessary. you can see only pictures. pres. hubak untay ahong ibutang sa RIP. but since you persist in your idiocy, klarohon na lang naho.

ang ahong pagsabot nimo. masinahon ka nga tawo. dili ka gusto ma labwan. tbnation is all yours. dili na kinhangang mo log out ka. you post a thousand a day. i dont care anymore. i am going away. after my showing of the power of dreams , i am gone

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islander · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:28:41 PM »

you place yourself too much as important in everything here. even this thread is about you? goodness me. what a pest.

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islander · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:29:49 PM »

now you tell us if even those books of how-tos for dummies are published for you...

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moneytree · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:33:57 PM »

klaro man nga akoy gi igo ni hubag. he could have titled it The Government Shutdown Explained period. wa nay pakapin. gusto jud ni sija mo kompetensya. i was the first to explain what a govt. shutdown is. ngopya na pod sija sa internet.

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moneytree · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:37:08 PM »

you watch the POWER of DREAMS. here i will make my dreams come true. because in the internet we can be whatever what we want to be. i may not be a milyoner, but its all the same. perception is the key. compared to bill gates, i am only a beggar

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islander · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:42:43 PM »

klaro man nga akoy gi igo ni hubag. he could have titled it The Government Shutdown Explained period. wa nay pakapin. gusto jud ni sija mo kompetensya. i was the first to explain what a govt. shutdown is. ngopya na pod sija sa internet.

imo na nang problema kun sabton nimo nga anything that hubag does, especially when he mentions the word 'idiot', is about you. problema na nimo kay nituo na ka that the word is synonymous with you, hahaha!

ikaw ang una bahin sa shutdown? aba, mora man ug ikaw ang inventor ani. also, kun nangopya si hubag sa internet, ang imo diay original, as in your own composition? come on...

pagkat-on pod ug cite sa imong source uy.

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moneytree · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:46:14 PM »

my sources are the group, which cannot be named. sorry

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moneytree · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2013, 08:57:15 PM »

excuse me islander. its 9 am here in the states. dad-on sa naho ahong baktin sa clinic. did not go to school. naay hilanat. lisod ning way nANAY. i am father, mother, gardener, diswasher, house boy. ngita ko ug live in maid. gamay ra gud ug sweldo. $1000 a month. pero net na. no taxes. libre food, own room, a little allowance, health benefits, insurance.

c u later

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islander · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2013, 09:05:24 PM »

my sources are the group, which cannot be named. sorry

enough of your patuotuo. don't you ever think that sane people believe you.

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moneytree · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2013, 10:17:24 PM »

that is why its called make believe. kay gama gama lang nga estorya

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StevenRan · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2013, 10:49:24 PM »

excuse me islander. its 9 am here in the states. dad-on sa naho ahong baktin sa clinic. did not go to school. naay hilanat. lisod ning way nANAY. i am father, mother, gardener, diswasher, house boy. ngita ko ug live in maid. gamay ra gud ug sweldo. $1000 a month. pero net na. no taxes. libre food, own room, a little allowance, health benefits, insurance.

c u later

ok dokie. i have showered and changed. now i have to bring my baktin to the doctor. c u 2moro miss islander highlander. the woman who has 2 much power. anyway you are safe baby. you are under the protection of doc lorenz. hubag, you are not safe. because i can change my mind at any time. just maybe mo salida ko sunod tuig. i will show you around LA ISLA BONITA

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