Author Topic: Why So Many Disasters In the USA? (Read 5119 times)

rayborze · « **on:** November 21, 2008, 06:32:40 AM »

Unsa may nagpaluyo aning walay katapusang catastrophic events that has recently pounded the United States?

Many Americans are asking the question, why does this happen? why are we pounded by this catastrophic events?

Kay nakahibalo na baya ta ngano nga ang America nag antos karon, kay kani laging "SIN" nga kuno bahin sa modern humanist or secular movement is an thing from the past. There is only self realization, nothing else....hehehehhe makatawa ra baja ta ani oy, gahi jud diay nang kamagung nga kahoy no? or a birch tree? really?,

Statistics shows last years abortion in the USA, was the highest ever in the history of human existence, and you ask why is this happening to us?, Philippines do you want to share the punishment that is upon the USA? by becoming the 51st State?

The God Of Israel, Jesus Christ, "Elohim" in the old testament said: I will punish them, I will assign terror over them, I will make their land desolate, They have not known my ways.
I will destroy them until they realize that I Am that I Am.

Repentance is the key my friends, easy to say, hard to do.... not hard if you are living in a real world, but if you're mind is set on things that are not real,( utopianism) then you are in deep trouble, bisan unsa pay imong nahuman sa atong kalibutan, kung wala ang Ispiritu ni Kristo sa imong kinabuhi, maupaw nalang ka dili gihapon ka makasabot sa imong kinabuhi.

Cause and effect, its a very hard sell in America these days, and its spreading like cancer. The world is embracing it. So as the Philippines, Freedom from Sin and Guilt.

America has come to a point that, it might go down rapidly-- but the true followers of Christ will stay protected and blessed. and it is really true because of so many testemonies of true Christians in the United States that was spared from disasters.... The Bible is real and relevant in our day, Only God can change the course of America, If America does not repent--- then he will be humbled and broken.....

For us true followers of Christ, it is a very good sign--- He Is Coming Soon....

Cheers,
rayborze

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2008, 07:16:09 AM »

Philippines is worst,it really go downhill so fast. In my own opinion mas daghan faithful sa church in U.S.A suprising right? Kung unsa nakita ninyo sa T.V not all of them tinuod.Media like protraying hate crimes and violence.America is the new garden of Eden bless with all natural resources.Daghan faithful Catholic sa U.S di pareha sa Pilipinas catholic in name ra pero wala sa buhat.Mas daghan sin sa Pilipinas why its true dili legal ang abortion pero daghan nagpaabort daghan chismosa.Yes sala ang magchimiz dili ka charitable ana sa imo isig katawo.
Daghan true to their faith diri sa U.S daghan magpakamatay in the Name of Jesus Christ.Wala na i portray sa televesion.Daghan misguided Catholic sa filipinas ug uninform bahin sa faith.Sa tinuod lang basic ra kaayo ang nakat unan bahin sa Catholic faith sa Pilipinas.Mas maayo pa nga cold ka kay sa lukewarm.Naa na sa bible isuka sa Ginoo ang Lukewarm nga soul.Mas grave ang sin sa Pilipinas why?Daghan heresy diha proud kaayo ta moingon sa atua nga catholic ta pero naa ba sa buhat.Kung ang good catholic american pasultihon ang pilipinas daw catholic in name only.
My husband is very good catholic and I was very surprise sa iya knowlegde sa catholic faith.They always observe Holy days,they do fasting and abstinence ,avoid eating meat on friday,they go confession frequently,they refrain themselve to receive communion kung di makakompisal,they pray the rosary daily,once a week adoration sa chapel.Naa ba ni sa atua?gi observe ba ni maybe yes pero gamay ra.
The only thing nga thankful ko sa Pilipinas is at least gi keep pa ang catholic tradition pero I am sure maghinay hinay ni ug kawala.
Kung ako pasultihon daghan faithful people sa U.S true to their faith.yes wala lang gidisplay like sa pilipinas but deep in every homes lig on ang pagtuo.

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rayborze · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2008, 11:18:41 AM »

Tinuod baya ka manang!

Daghan pa gihapon ang mga tinuod nga Kristohanon diri sa America, the more people are being saved and accepted Jesus Christ, the more the enemy influences the media and the whole system. After all he is the god of this world....

nakahibalo kaba manang, nga sa ato-a man gud, tigulang na kaayo na nga commander sa mga demonyo-- nga naga puyo diha sa pilipinas, its the same spirit when it first came in the 15th century, if you remember your history... Ajaw lang kabalaka manang, kay kung tinuod nga naga puyo si Kristo sa imong kinabuhi, wala gajoy maka hadlok nimo.... bisan ila pang patjun ang imong lawas dili niya mapatay ang imong kalag.

maajung adlaw,

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pioneer · « **Reply #3 on:** November 21, 2008, 11:32:36 AM »

I agree with Raquel. Media outlets all over the world are champions of portraying the dark side of life and society. Look at our very own Philippine Daily Inquirer. You can hardly read anything good about the Philippines.

Every country has its own woes. There is no perfect government, no perfect society. Perfection comes when Jesus Christ descends from heaven and rules the world during the Millennial Kingdom.

If governments are perfect, if the world is perfect, we won't long for heaven and the eternal life that awaits those who put their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

All countries have their own problems but some countries are more problematic than others.

All is equal but some are more equal, George Orwell says in his novel, Animal Farm.

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2008, 12:44:26 PM »

nakahibalo kaba manang, nga sa ato-a man gud, tigulang na kaayo na nga commander sa mga demonyo-- nga naga puyo diha sa pilipinas, its the same spirit when it first came in the 15th century, if you remember your history... Ajaw lang kabalaka manang, kay kung tinuod nga naga puyo si Kristo sa imong kinabuhi, wala gajoy maka hadlok nimo.... bisan ila pang patjun ang imong lawas dili niya mapatay ang imong kalag.

maajung adlaw,

Human heart never change.The sin of yesterday is the same sin of today.That"s human fallen nature.When we commited sin bisan wala pa ta makadungog sa teaching sa atong Ginoo we are fully aware nga nakasala ta once makareach na ta anang gitawag ug Age of reason.Sinning without repentance is like murdering your conscience.One sin lead to more sin ug mao na ma dead atong konsenya di na ta aware nga di na diay mao atong gibuhat.If the devil can't get you in one way he will try getting you in other way.Lets say gibuhat gyud nimo ang tanan nga di ka makasala ug gifollow nimo ang teaching sa Ginoo time come ma overzealous ka.Mao ni nga time makaingon ka I am much better than them.You will start judging people instead nga mo understand sa ilang weakness.Their pride sets in.Nganong napapha ug nag all out war si Lucifer sa ginharian sa Langit it;s because of his Pride.
What good it be if I tell you I accepted Jesus Christ in my heart but contradict all his teaching.Dapat mag uban jud ang pagtuo ug ang buhat.I am not perfect nor Holy but I am doing my best to follow all God plans for me I follow the best I could sumaa sa iya mando.Yes I am great sinner and I am aware of that.Do I afraid to die?Certainly not.I am just hoping that Our Good Lord will show infinite Mercy on me when I stand before him on my judgement day.Way imposible sa Ginoo kung hugot lang ka mangayo ug humble ka sa imong pagkamakasasala.
On your post about why there are so many disaster in U.S.A sometimes we need wake up call.Gituyo ni sa Ginoo para mohangad ta ug balik niya.It;s a blessing in my own opinion.Where there is excess and abundant life usahay malimot ta asa ni naggikan and we sometimes feel wa ni kinutuban.
Nothing is perfect in this life the only perfection is in heaven.Ang kasakit,kalamidad ug kagubot grasya sa Ginoo this way mobalik tag ampo niya.
On economic downfall it's blessing too.People in U.S live in excess while other country almost have none.Dapat thankful ang U.S nga giminus minusan sa Ginoo ang grasya kay kung magsegi magpabilin ang sin of pride ug glutonny.This way ang mga tawo will humble thereself.

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2008, 10:59:45 PM »

ang akong masulti mas daghan ang tigpaka aron ingnon sa pinas. pakitang tao ang pagka diosnon. simba kada adlaw, novena/rosario kada gabii. apil ug mga religious groups like couples for christ, singles for christ, youth for christ ug uban pa diha pero wala hunahunaa. totally opposite sa ilang mga gipangbuhat. ako nagdako ko nga katoliko. tagsa ra man tuod ko mosimba pero i see to it nga kung mosimba ko solemn. kung magpray ko, short prayers lang but with heart. i believe in God, i have faith for the saints and in Jesus Christ.

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guadalrose · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2008, 12:48:37 AM »

Some guys here are very JUDGEMENTAL!

very judgemental...

American land is too vast and very wide,

A nation with different climate, and every geographical structures has it's own type of weather...

So how could you avoid different calamities and disasters???

Why Philipines has more disasters that people are what they called "very religious"?

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lindy · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2008, 02:55:05 AM »

AMEN... bnc mahinumdom man ko anang imong gisulti bahin adtong among silingan sauna nga maoy perming mangunahan ug rosaryo sa simbahan ug kapilya. pero ug tua na sa gawas persang kusoga pod mamalikas ug manungo. what a life...

ang akong masulti mas daghan ang tigpaka aron ingnon sa pinas. pakitang tao ang pagka diosnon. simba kada adlaw, novena/rosario kada gabii. apil ug mga religious groups like couples for christ, singles for christ, youth for christ ug uban pa diha pero wala hunahunaa. totally opposite sa ilang mga gipangbuhat. ako nagdako ko nga katoliko. tagsa ra man tuod ko mosimba pero i see to it nga kung mosimba ko solemn. kung magpray ko, short prayers lang but with heart. i believe in God, i have faith for the saints and in Jesus Christ.

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rayborze · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2008, 04:17:55 AM »

Paul said, in his epistle-- if you cannot judge the smallest matters, he was talking about the body of Christ, how then can you judge things that are outside the body, He meant, the general population.... You see, if you are a true Christian, then the Spirit of God should be living in you, so you can decern the things that has been manifested in this world, being a Christian, we judge by what we see, a clear practice that contradicts what the Bible says is worthy of judgement, God commandede us to practice judgement in righteousness, love, and care for the oppress. It's very clear in our country the Philippines that their are people who still practice the wrong religion.

The Bible says; a true religion is, to take care of the sick, the hurting, the orphaned, and the widows, that is the real meaning of religion, not kneeling towards the altar from the entrance of the church or making long repeatative prayers, what did Jesus said regarding this people? they offer God lip service, but their hearts are so far from God...

God is looking for people who Worship Him in Spirit and in Truth... that God will answer and bless...

cheers

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2008, 12:46:52 AM »

Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye", and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

--Matthew 7:1-6

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2008, 12:59:56 AM »

Unsa may nagpaluyo aning walay katapusang catastrophic events that has recently pounded the United States?

Many Americans are asking the question, why does this happen? why are we pounded by this catastrophic events?

Kay nakahibalo na baya ta ngano nga ang America nag antos karon, kay kani laging "SIN" nga kuno bahin sa modern humanist or secular movement is an thing from the past. There is only self realization, nothing else....hehehehhe makatawa ra baja ta ani oy, gahi jud diay nang kamagung nga kahoy no? or a birch tree? really?,

Statistics shows last years abortion in the USA, was the highest ever in the history of human existence, and you ask why is this happening to us?, Philippines do you want to share the punishment that is upon the USA? by becoming the 51st State?

The God Of Israel, Jesus Christ, "Elohim" in the old testament said: I will punish them, I will assign terror over them, I will make their land desolate, They have not known my ways.
I will destroy them until they realize that I Am that I Am.

Repentance is the key my friends, easy to say, hard to do.... not hard if you are living in a real world, but if you're mind is set on things that are not real,( utopianism) then you are in deep trouble, bisan unsa pay imong nahuman sa atong kalibutan, kung wala ang Ispiritu ni Kristo sa imong kinabuhi, maupaw nalang ka dili gihapon ka makasabot sa imong kinabuhi.

Cause and effect, its a very hard sell in America these days, and its spreading like cancer. The world is embracing it. So as the Philippines, Freedom from Sin and Guilt.

America has come to a point that, it might go down rapidly-- but the true followers of Christ will stay protected and blessed. and it is really true because of so many testemonies of true Christians in the United States that was spared from disasters.... The Bible is real and relevant in our day, Only God can change the course of America, If America does not repent--- then he will be humbled and broken.....

For us true followers of Christ, it is a very good sign--- He Is Coming Soon....

Cheers,
rayborze

Humble yourselves before the Lord and he will exalt you.
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Do not speak evil of one another, brothers. Whoever speaks evil of a brother or judges his brother speaks evil of the law and judges the law. If you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge.
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There is one lawgiver and judge who is able to save or to destroy. Who then are you to judge your neighbor?
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Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we shall go into such and such a town, spend a year there doing business, and make a profit"--
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you have no idea what your life will be like tomorrow. You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears.
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Instead you should say, "If the Lord wills it, we shall live to do this or that."
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But now you are boasting in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
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So for one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, it is a sin.

--James 4: 10-17

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guadalrose · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2008, 02:09:07 PM »

Many Americans are asking the question, why does this happen? why are we pounded by this catastrophic events?

Kay nakahibalo na baya ta ngano nga ang America nag antos karon, kay kani laging "SIN" nga kuno bahin sa modern humanist or secular movement is an thing from the past. There is only self realization, nothing else....hehehehhe makatawa ra baja ta ani oy, gahi jud diay nang kamagung nga kahoy no? or a birch tree? really?,

Wwwaittaminute, kinsay nag ingon nga nag antos ang America, did anyone read Raquel proud Boholana's comment on the "51st State" thread?

Statistics shows last years abortion in the USA, was the highest ever in the history of human existence, and you ask why is this happening to us?, Philippines do you want to share the punishment that is upon the USA? by becoming the 51st State?

Good so people should stop coming here and watch out because ill wait for you at the consulate...LOL

The God Of Israel, Jesus Christ, "Elohim" in the old testament said: I will punish them, I will assign terror over them, I will make their land desolate, They have not known my ways.
I will destroy them until they realize that I Am that I Am.

Why, do all people really believed that the world will last forever? do you? You may need to review your science.

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rayborze · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2008, 02:16:08 PM »

Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judge by you, are you unworhty to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? If then you have judgements concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge?

Indeed this scripture that the apostle Paul laid out to the Corinthians was a measuring rod, wether they need to be guided by the letter of the Law or should freedom in Christ should reign in their lives. Paul goes on to say to the church in Corinth, Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, noe homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous nor drunkards,(palahubog) "like me before" nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the Kingdom of God. "And such were some of you". But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Their are Four World Views in our society today, As I said before, it is important to know which of the 4 world view do people practice, and lived by. This will determined the person's ideas, theology,philosophy,ethics,biology,psychology,sociology,law,politics,economics and history....
All these areas affects the human reasoning, in every facet of that person.

Truly God is awesome, and His Spirit is active in the Body Of Christ today, amidst all this, the blessed assurance that our Lord Jesus gave to those who live their lives according to Truth and Love can be secure, though faced with the Devils schemes.
Satan the devil is still masking as prince of light, but the true saints knows his canning moves, satan is qouting the scriptures too, and he even deceives those who are perishing, meaning people, who live a life of unrighteousness.... they only hear the word but they are not doers of the word, so deceiving themselves.....

cheers

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2008, 08:20:28 PM »

We are not talking about end of times, we are talking about the current times. You are assuming that you will be one of Christ's anointed saints, yet you are not yet dead, nor have you been judged by The Lord Jesus Christ, who sits on the right hand side of His Father In Heaven.

To me, this is an example of unguided reading of scripture, of pronounced personal interpretation not abiding by the teachings of the Apostolic tradition. These kinds of readings are in compliance with the apostacy and heresy that is abounding throughout the world.

I pray for you, and I do pray for you. Focus more on the teachings of John, Matthew, Paul, the readings of Peter and not so much on revelation. As it is not OURS to decide or judge who will be judged or who will be cast or not. It is only Christ, and His Father who will judge.

Secondly, I find it rather amusing to know that there are individuals in here who are living abroad and enjoying the fruits of the freedoms and priviledges of their host countries, namely Canada or USA, and at the same time, talk negatively about their host countries that have provided food, job, a good way of life, and the freedoms that many do not enjoy in the Philippines or in other third world countries. I call that hypocrisy, and not just hypocrisy but disrespect.

And instead of praying for your brothers and sisters, as what we are called to do, as GOOD Catholics or GOOD Christians, others of us judge, pre-judge, and comdemn areadly as if they were an elected saint. Nay, you are not a saint unless Christ decides and calls you a saint. Your faith and your actions have to prove your intent. As faith alone cannot and will not gain you entry into the Kingdom of Heaven. But through good works and faith.

Through Christ Our Lord,
Who is the ONLY one who will judge.

Matthew 16:27
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

Matthew 25:34-46
"Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."

Acts 10:35
"But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."

Romans 2:13
"For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

2 Corinthians 5:9-10
"Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

Ephesians 2:8-10
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

Titus 1:16
"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."

James 1:22
"But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

Matthew 5:14-16
"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

Matthew 16:27
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

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guadalrose · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2008, 12:44:11 AM »

Was there dinosours mentioned in the bible?

anyhow, speaking of desasters in the USA, hey look! what about Pompie? and other lost worlds that were discovered recently?

And how about Einstien's theory of Relativity which no doubt is proven (many times) as true?

PS. if you dont know nothing about law of relativity then continue preaching the disasters in the USA!!!

Goodluck, and welcome to Wasilla!!!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #15 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:15:52 AM »

Was there dinosours mentioned in the bible?

anyhow, speaking of desasters in the USA, hey look! what about Pompie? and other lost worlds that were discovered recently?

And how about Einstien's theory of Relativity which no doubt is proven (many times) as true?

PS. if you dont know nothing about law of relativity then continue preaching the disasters in the USA!!!

Goodluck, and welcome to Wasilla!!!

Rose, let us move past this.

Though we may have disagreements with some individuals in here, let us not judge. As Christ told us, "Turn the other cheek".

Pray for our brothers and sisters. That is all we can do for them, and Love them as Christ ordered us to love one another.

Peace be with you Rayborze.

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rayborze · « **Reply #16 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:19:56 AM »

Please don't be zealous my friend, If you only know how much we suffer for the Gospel of Christ, for your awareness I look after children who are hurting, neglected, abandoned, abused, and all sorts of disadvantages in this life that we are supposed to be responsible.

And please don't qoute the scripture if it is not alive in your life....

For a true Christian indeed is filled with the spirit of truth and love...
Please examine properly, about what i said in the blog, I am speaking in the spirit regarding people who are not really walking a Christian the Christian life...

Now love when it is expressed, it will hurt because it exposes the darkness that is in tyhe hearts of men, If I speak the truth, then why Am I misunderstood?
If you exposed the deeds of darkness then you will become judgemental, or a bigget....

The lord Jesus said to leave the self righteous alone....
So I will stop.....

Forgive me If I offended any of you here....

Cheers

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:32:33 AM »

For you, Ray,

Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye", and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

--Matthew 7:1-6

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #18 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:50:19 AM »

Please don't be zealous my friend, If you only know how much we suffer for the Gospel of Christ, for your awareness I look after children who are hurting, neglected, abandoned, abused, and all sorts of disadvantages in this life that we are supposed to be responsible.

And please don't qoute the scripture if it is not alive in your life....

For a true Christian indeed is filled with the spirit of truth and love...
Please examine properly, about what i said in the blog, I am speaking in the spirit regarding people who are not really walking a Christian the Christian life...

Now love when it is expressed, it will hurt because it exposes the darkness that is in tyhe hearts of men, If I speak the truth, then why Am I misunderstood?
If you exposed the deeds of darkness then you will become judgemental, or a bigget....

The lord Jesus said to leave the self righteous alone....
So I will stop.....

Forgive me If I offended any of you here....

Cheers

I never claimed to be self righteous, I would even admit that I am a sinner as any other person. Where did I show zealousy? Were you offended that I spoke the truth? That scripture is indeed in the hearts of even sinners? The point of the matter, Ray, is that no one has the right to judge any individual or condemn anyone on basis of self reighteousness. I did not attack you on your works or your claim in helping individuals. And if that is true, then God Bless You!

The matter is, don't judge others, when you yourself do not want to be judged. There is a saying that I read in scripture a couple of days ago, and let me share it with you as it should shed light.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
--Matthew 23:25-28

Additionally, Ray, the Word of the Lord is for all to hear. It is the strength and guide of all our lives. Even for us sinners, us lowly sinners. Please do not think lowly of us sinners. Please do not judge us. As Only Christ can judge.

I pray for you, through Christ Our Lord.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #19 on:** November 24, 2008, 09:40:14 AM »

kapoy basa sa thread.. mureact na lang kos title..

8s nature's way... (mao ra na)

bisan kanang mga man-made disasters, 8s nature's way.. nature baya ng mga tawhana.. lol

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guadalrose · « **Reply #20 on:** November 24, 2008, 11:35:43 AM »

SEe? mao jud!

nganong abton sa taas nga bersikulo nga pagbuot man na sa NATURE!

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #21 on:** November 24, 2008, 12:35:09 PM »

Ray,
Ikaw man ang overzealous nuon imo man gibali si Lorenzo.I find your post full of pride and judgemental towards people living here in U.S.A ,as what I said bisan asa nga lugar naa jud ang dautang tawo.Yes daghan abortion diri sa America but you got to remember kung imo i compare ang philippines sa America mas dako ang population diri.Besides most people practising abortion here don't know God or hardly beleive in God.Kara usa nato i judge sa Ginoo sumaa sa atong gibuhat.I beleive also nga mas severe ang punishment nga ihatag sa Ginoo adtong nakadungog sa iyang Ngalan ug nagsimba pero wala mosunod sa iyang mando.
If you knew all things in the world and had not charity, what would it profit you before God Who will judge you by your deeds? Many words do not satisfy the soul; but a good life eases the mind and a clean conscience inspires great trust in God.
If you wish to learn and appreciate something worth while, then love to be unknown and considered as nothing. Truly to know and despise self is the best and most perfect counsel. To think of oneself as nothing, and always to think well and highly of others is the best and most perfect wisdom. Wherefore, if you see another sin openly or commit a serious crime, do not consider yourself better, for you do not know how long you can remain in good estate. All men are frail, but you must admit that none is more frail than yourself. Our opinions, our senses often deceive us and we discern very little.Every perfection in this life has some imperfection mixed with it and no learning of ours is without some darkness. Humble knowledge of self is a surer path to God than the ardent pursuit of learning.
DO NOT yield to every impulse and suggestion but consider things carefully and patiently in the light of God's will. For very often, sad to say, we are so weak that we believe and speak evil of others rather than good. A good life makes a man wise according to God and gives him experience in many things, for the more humble he is and the more subject to God, the wiser and the more at peace he will be in all things.
Peace my friend,I know nga usahay we think our opinion is good but then later on we realize nganong gi post pa to nato without even thinkin unsa ang backlash.

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guadalrose · « **Reply #22 on:** November 24, 2008, 10:41:46 PM »

Very well said Raquel!

I find it very hypocrite to judge about someone's spirituality!

Yeah i find most hypocrite of our people are fund of being very religious but not SPIRITUAL!

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bol-anon nga cebuano · « **Reply #23 on:** November 24, 2008, 11:54:15 PM »

naa man diay ko sangay ngari sa TB.
bitaw, in reality daghan man jud ang ing ana nga tawo diri sa kalibutan, tigpaka aron ingnon. im not judging anyone nor telling that im clean. it's just that, im true to myself and what im showing is the real me. i don't want to deceived people by showing them some acting that can merit oscars.
some disasters in the US maybe perhaps man-made disasters? global warming and ecological change maybe brought in by nature but also made by people.

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