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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2008, 09:25:08 AM »
thank you Bai Lor i highly respect yours too!

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2008, 03:24:10 PM »
This is what makes this web site beautiful. We may have differences in opinion, and come from different backgrounds, different parts of the world. But we are able to communicate and relay points of view and take something from it--one way or another.



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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2008, 02:00:23 PM »
Nothing can be further from the truth! I think we already are, at least that's what we feel here in the America's, there's quiet a few things that we must do, First; we must sift through our old spanish habit, "manyana" and etc..etc.. It will probably take a generation of Filipino's to move towards a Free Nation under God. We must also get rid of our rebelious attitude towards authority.



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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2008, 03:58:44 PM »
nibir.. not in this lifetime.. over my dead kuko... makibaka ug makibaboy jud ko inis mendiola ba.. not an inch of the phil territory.. lol..

rayborze: rebellious lang ang pinoy kay unsaun man nga authority nga nabutang sa pwesto wa man tagai ug authority sa mga pinoy.. fake man gud na amu president..

enzo bay: fyi lang, the americans (the thomasites) taught the Filipinos this song:
     "magtanim ay di biro, maghapun nakayuko"
   kalimot ko sa sumpay, pero it fosters/creates complacency and disgust in agriculture..
   a mockery of the filipino way of life..
   forgot the title of the song.. isearch mo na lang..hehehe

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #84 on: November 12, 2008, 11:29:21 PM »
Wrong!!!


Calle dili na mao!

kani nga song:

Jack and Jill
Went up the hill
To fetch a pail of water...


Karon, unsalan pagka kanta nga ning adto sa bungtod kay magkalos ug tubig? naa bay tubig nga tua sa bungtod??? tubaga daw aber ug wa ba ta binuangi!! LOL

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #85 on: November 13, 2008, 12:18:09 AM »
this has nothing to do with the philippines as the 51st US state.. but in addition to the comment on the jack and jill song, isn't it ironic that such a children's song can be so gory? translated to bisaya, it would go something like: si jack ug si jill mikatkat sa bukid kay mag kawos ug tubig. naligid si jack ug nabuak and iyang bagulbagul. unya si jill misunod ug kaligid sa bakilid... this is certainly not good material for a grade schooler to learn. maayo na lang nga kasagaran bata mokanta ani nga song, wa pa kasabut kung unsay meaning sa ilang gikanta.

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #86 on: November 13, 2008, 08:20:00 AM »
LOL... sa valencia siguro na nahimu nga kanta mdb.. kay sa bukid sa valencia, nay barrio didto nga gaawas -awas tawn ang ilang tangke ug tubig sa kadaghan ug tubig.. ang mga gripo pasagdan lang nga mag-agas-agas to lessen the pressure sa water system.. ang nakapait mdb kay di sila manghatag sa taga ubang barrio nga ganahan muconnect sa ilang tangke.. mao magkaws tawn pud tong silingang barrio nila sa bukid.. LOL...

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #87 on: November 13, 2008, 10:16:13 AM »
sa jagna pud tuas bukid ang kawsanan!

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2008, 10:18:18 AM »
this has nothing to do with the philippines as the 51st US state.. but in addition to the comment on the jack and jill song, isn't it ironic that such a children's song can be so gory? translated to bisaya, it would go something like: si jack ug si jill mikatkat sa bukid kay mag kawos ug tubig. naligid si jack ug nabuak and iyang bagulbagul. unya si jill misunod ug kaligid sa bakilid... this is certainly not good material for a grade schooler to learn. maayo na lang nga kasagaran bata mokanta ani nga song, wa pa kasabut kung unsay meaning sa ilang gikanta.


pwerte nakong agik-ik diri ! hahahehe

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #89 on: November 13, 2008, 04:56:04 PM »
mao gani nga kinahanglan usa o duha ka henirasyon, usa pa ma usob ang mga pinoy, pero unsaon man kun dili willing? It's hard to teach old dogs new trikkkkssss you know!.... you need to raise a new breed, new blood, if we want our country to prosper in a Godly Way.... Thought might be a good Idea to bring into our young people, after all our nation will not really, and cannot move forward if it's still have a heavy load of garbage...... what i mean is the past and old habits...
nahala, nindot baja kaayo ang fiesta, ato nlang sagulan ug american taste ang atong letchon,,,,Lots of Heinz Catchup,,,,,,hahahahha...

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #90 on: November 14, 2008, 05:16:29 AM »
Accountability and transparency is achievable in the now. Ubiquitous to the argument is the reiteration of the need to change. Understandable, and in the end, that is the goal. That is the aim.

Intrinsic to the problem itself, is the process, the procurement of the said goal.

This argument is circular and never-ending. How are we to solve the problem. Specific processes. Idealism aside, let us be pragmatic.




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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #91 on: November 14, 2008, 05:28:40 AM »
mao gani nga kinahanglan usa o duha ka henirasyon, usa pa ma usob ang mga pinoy, pero unsaon man kun dili willing? It's hard to teach old dogs new trikkkkssss you know!.... you need to raise a new breed, new blood, if we want our country to prosper in a Godly Way.... Thought might be a good Idea to bring into our young people, after all our nation will not really, and cannot move forward if it's still have a heavy load of garbage...... what i mean is the past and old habits...
nahala, nindot baja kaayo ang fiesta, ato nlang sagulan ug american taste ang atong letchon,,,,Lots of Heinz Catchup,,,,,,hahahahha...

Pardon my intervention,

But your proposal is naively idealistic. It will not work in any society.

The fall of communism, an egalitarianistic idealistic experiment, has born testament to this.

A realistic solution to this said problem, and in keeping with the ultimate goal of severing old customs, is some kind of social revolution, translating in the removal of the current political system for a new one. Starting fresh.

This does not necessarily mean success, as Pol Pot's socialist revolution to eradicate old Cambodian customs for a proposed utopic idealism lead to the genocide of over 2 million Cambodians (1/4th of that country's population). The experiment itself was a failure. Absolute; which mirrored Mao Zedong's own Cultural Revolution in the 1970's, which was a failure in its own right).



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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #92 on: November 14, 2008, 09:08:38 AM »
i have an ultimate solution:

40yrs old and above na politicians dalhon sa basilan island. tapukon unja bombahan ug hydrogen bomb. so they will evaporate into the atmosphere. ang mabilin ligdong na gyud!

tama, ni to change the present corrupt philippine political state. heheeh!

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #93 on: November 14, 2008, 09:08:38 AM »
pwede baya karun kay na pa man mga tarung nga tawo diri (ahem, sama nako)(ahem again)

pero kung mudagan ko run sa election dili man jud ko kadaug.. di man gani siguro ko kadaug ug presidente sa amung dajong..

before we seek a change in the system, i think there has to be a change among the people first.. a moral revolution.. change for good.. change for the better..

pero unsaun man pagbag-o ug pag-usab sa mga tawo nga gahi ug ulo, gahi ug punopuno ug gahi ug bagulbagul???

first, we must believe that change is possible
second, ambot, wa nako kabalo.. suggestion???

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #94 on: November 14, 2008, 10:32:59 AM »
Everyone believes that change is possible. The ultimate problem, calle, is the unseathing of the sword (figuratively speaking).

My suggestion is one that follows historical premise.

War; a social revolution.

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« Reply #95 on: November 14, 2008, 10:45:07 AM »
The entire political system in the Philippines is flawed. From local to the national level. Corruption has gone into the core; even into the barangay level.

Only through some kind of social revolution will one actually and TRULY change the political system.

Other than that, realistically speaking, the sins of the father will continue to pass down to the son (figuratively speaking). Corruption is passed down from generation to generation. It is a diasporic problem. To fix the system, you need to purify the entire system.

History has mandated that only through war, and a revolutionary struggle.

Precedent that follows said law:
1. French Revolution; Change of Absolutist Monarchy into a Federalist Republique
2. American Revolution: Change from Constitutional Monarchy without representation into a Federalist Republic

3. Bolshevik Revolution: Change from an Autocracy to a Soviet Republic

4. Parshal Revolution; Change of Turkey's Monarchy into a Secular Republic

5. World War II; The defeat of Japan led to the change from Imperial Military Government to a Constitutional Democratic Monarchy

6. World War I; Germany's defeat to the Allied Powers forced the abdication of King William of Germany, thus changing Germany from a Monarchy into a Republic.

7. Boxer's Rebellion; Removal of the Chinese Qing Dynasty from power, thereby extinquishing China's 4 millenias of Imperial Government. Rise of a modern republican form of government under the auspices of Sun Yat Sen.

etc.

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #96 on: November 14, 2008, 01:39:10 PM »
na, extralegal and extraconstitutional changes man na imu enzo.. i think we have to work within the legal frameworks of the philippine constitution.. ang constitution na lang ang naghawid ini nga nasud karun.. kung dili nato irespeto ang constitution, kinsa pa man irespeto namu? anarchy na mahitabo ana.. chaos..

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« Reply #97 on: November 14, 2008, 04:09:16 PM »
Calle,

How can you work within a system that is flawed? By that argument, in itself, is obligatory to the corrupt fundamentals within the Philippine Government.

How can you work within a legal system, or within said parameters, when a local court magistrate can be bribed? How can you work within a system in which the pragmatics is outright? Dare I be called unpatriotic, nay, but merely giving you a macroscopic viewpoint of said political system. The rampancy of corruption is clearly manifested in that even small municipalities, even barrangays acquiesce to vote buying. Even in my own town of Valencia, that is the rule of the land.

Moreso in regards to the provincial, regional and national level.

Note, I am not a proponent of anarchy, but merely giving a neutralist and historically adept solution, a realistic one at that, to the question being asked by my former colleagues in this said thread.



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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #98 on: November 14, 2008, 05:02:34 PM »
the system is not flawed.. it is the men and women running the system that is flawed.. these are two different things enzo..

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« Reply #99 on: November 14, 2008, 05:43:03 PM »
What i was driving at, Is a renewing of the mind. You must be willing to change from the inside out... It's not rocket science-- it's called turning away from old habits and starting a new way of life, new way of thinking, it's like becoming a real Christian...That is why God gave us wisdom and knowledge, but if we are dull and damdam, and not willing to change then it will permeate... and it will become stinky and crappyyy and rotten....As we all know that government system is another form of humanistic religion, we call it, secular religion in the America's.

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2008, 07:58:19 AM »
the system is not flawed.. it is the men and women running the system that is flawed.. these are two different things enzo..

buwad: baranga na lagi na sila buwad

I will not argue the semantics of the situation, Calle, as this has been argued time and time before. The system in the Philippines is flawed.

Pray, divulge us with a solution that is attainable, if it is even possible.


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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2008, 08:02:07 AM »
What i was driving at, Is a renewing of the mind. You must be willing to change from the inside out... It's not rocket science-- it's called turning away from old habits and starting a new way of life, new way of thinking, it's like becoming a real Christian...That is why God gave us wisdom and knowledge, but if we are dull and damdam, and not willing to change then it will permeate... and it will become stinky and crappyyy and rotten....As we all know that government system is another form of humanistic religion, we call it, secular religion in the America's.

No one is arguing about the need for change; as that has already been fundamentally established.

Again, I stand, we are all inclined to change, however, the political system in this country makes it an unfortunate necessity to be corrupt in order to wield the reigns of power. Unfortunately.

I am not arguing with you that change, indeed, is needed. But the processes of said change is the one that is being discussed. HOW can we subject change, what specific changes can be implemented to actually procure a realistic effect.



Let us think outside the utopic ideologue and and within the realm of realism.


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« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2008, 11:01:05 AM »
Oh! brother, this is it-- this is as real as it gets, the problem is--again is understanding the nature of the existing system. If you are given a new car, would you be willing to read the manual or you're just gonna jump in and drive, because you know that the vehicle is a vehicle. Are you the type of person that ignores the manual or instruction or are you the type of individual that is teachable, That is the problem, we think we know it all....Where did you get your wisdom? is it from God or from man? if it's from man then it won't work---sorry it's like a fig tree producing grape fruit... but because people are not willing to do what is right, by the way its not UTOPIA it's called real world and real messed up because we human's have not learned our lesson....Paul said if a man cannot rule his own household how will he govern the poeple outside his domain? Paul is not idealistic, it's not some 7yrs. thousand theology, it's called reality back then. how is it different on our time? words that are established are solid and founded in truth if you abide within it's realm, but if you create your own domain without it's creator then you are in deep s***.. And that is what's going on here on this earth. But did you know that in British Columbia, Canada -- there are people that is living what is right and doing what is lawful, they hold on, every constituents that believes on that servant leader supports it, and a Bill is passed. We need servant leaders that is a Godly person, can we find one in the Philippines? if indeed that person is an honest servant leader then the people should notice it. You see one reason I decide to experience the Canadian living is because, we can dream and our dreams can come true, if you do what is right...... it's not Utopianism---

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« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2008, 07:17:02 PM »
Rayborze,

I am not discussing the situation in Canada or in the United States, clearly the political systems in place in said countries are far more transparent than the ones in the Philippines. Corruption, or the basis of corruption in any westernized countries is a political dead end; however, in the Philippines, it is a sad and pathetic reality. It is the only way for one to wield power. Truth. Vote buying is an absolute REALITY. Political pocketing, provincial funds being pocketed, all of such are realistic truths.

And for one to declare and think that any change will happen in the not too distant future is realistically too naive or unable to assess the situation, rather circumventing the said topic.

If you understand how the human mind thinks, as in taking a psychiatric or psychological course, you will understand that there is a system of Pavlovian system. A reward-based inclination; whereas a response will be rewarded with a reward in that delegative processes. In the Philippines, the current wielders of power have been taught that very system of corruption by the elders who wielded power decades ago. And who themselves were taught of the same prcesses by those in power decades upon decades ago. The men such as Quezon, as well as Luna, were themselves products of political maneuvering and corruption, considering the educational discrepancies of the public during their own times.

Suffice to say, that indeed the current state of affairs of the Philippines is a result of that own said processes that abides, fundamentally and coincidentally, with the Pavlovian Concept as well as the Thibideoux Concept. The sad and direct reality of the situation, Rayborze, is that this problem will not go away nor will it subside in the near future due to the pragmaticism and the high level of spread of this necrotic manifestation in the political spectrum in the Philippines. The generation in power will subsequently influence those in the future generation as they themselves will rise to power. And continue this sad and pathetic cyclic reverberum that has made it symbolic of Filipino Political Life.


Thank you for quoting and reitering scripture, but we are not a Theocracy nor shall we ever become a theocracy. Religion does not belong in government. Religion belongs in the private sector and should NEVER be combined together. Ever.




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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #104 on: November 15, 2008, 07:31:55 PM »
the system is not flawed.. it is the men and women running the system that is flawed.. these are two different things enzo..

buwad: baranga na lagi na sila buwad

These two are fundamentally the same thing. A government is judged not on the system, anyone can have a system, however, a government defines and its jurisprudence emanates the true character of the system in power.

The Sovietic political system, if you read it in paper is perfect. Idealistic and utopic in nature. However, the intrinsic and humanistic truth is that power was abused, and the utopianism dreamed by men such as Marx, Lenin were turned around by dictators such as Stalin, Krushev and subsequent men who followed the latters' own tenants.

Political system and Political Unit in power are one and the same.

It is basic Political Science.

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« Reply #105 on: November 17, 2008, 12:48:29 PM »
No one is arguing about the need for change; as that has already been fundamentally established.

Again, I stand, we are all inclined to change, however, the political system in this country makes it an unfortunate necessity to be corrupt in order to wield the reigns of power. Unfortunately.

I am not arguing with you that change, indeed, is needed. But the processes of said change is the one that is being discussed. HOW can we subject change, what specific changes can be implemented to actually procure a realistic effect.



Let us think outside the utopic ideologue and and within the realm of realism.


i believe in change; and for me it's always a fundamental responsibility of each person thinking not as an individual but a part of whole. if only my parents can say NO when a "balato" is served during an election, i know change is happening...

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #106 on: November 23, 2008, 01:36:10 AM »
If what you say is true, then let us hope and stand true. It is in my deepest hope that the situation in the Philippines will improve, for the benefit of the 100 Million that live within the Republic.

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #107 on: November 23, 2008, 02:50:07 AM »
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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #108 on: January 12, 2009, 09:22:12 PM »
This must also be viewed not only in pragmatic and utilitarian perspective but most importantly socio-cultural dimensions.

We start thinking what happened in the treaty of paris of december 10, 1898? Article III says"Spain cedes to the United States the archipelago known as the Philippine Islands, and comprehending the islands lying within the following line: ... geographic description elided ... The United States will pay to Spain the sum of twenty million dollars ($20,000,000) within three months after the exchange of the ratifications of the present treaty.   The country was bought at a price and that includes the right to exploit her natural resources.
We try also to recall history during the commonwealth period, what were the kinds of benefits the Philippines has enjoyed?  During the Commonwealth years, Philippines sent one elected Resident Commissioner to the United States House of Representatives, as Puerto Rico currently does today.

The american occupation showed positive results to the country as a state as well:

Benevolent Assimilation
• By President Mckinley
• A regime was introduced by the United States, the Filipinos played the role of junior partner

Progress in education
• The best contribution of the Americans was Public Education
• Emphasized democratic traditions and the practical application of laws and principles
• The regulation of religion to the optional category was based on the principle separation of the church and state, under which the church had no say in running the public school system
• Compeled Filipinos to stud English language.
• Enrollment of students in the public school was compulsory..
• They gave students free books, pencils and other school supplies.
• “thomasites” –teachers, who came to the Philippines on board the S.S. Thomas and who replaced American soldiers.
• “Pensionados”-filipino who were sent to the United Sates because they showed aptudes in some branches of learning. When they return, they teach or work for the government.University of Sto. Tomas, the Escuela de Derecho, the Instituto Burgos-still used Spanish as a medium of their instruction but they were forced to abandon it.
• The system increased Filipinos literacy.

Public Wealth and Welfare
• When the Americans came they minimized the spread of diseases and to improve, the health of the people.
• Epidemics were prevented or minimized by the establishment of the quarantine service.
• Educated the people with hygiene and sanitation.
• Filipinos that time were ignorant with the power of minute germs to cause death. They believed in superstitions.
• The board of public health was created on 1901 which became a bureau at later date.
• In 1917-1918, cholera and small pox epidemics broke out, the mortality per 1000 persons progressively diminished in the succeeding years.
• The vocational training given to the orphans and the juvenile delinquents resulted in their moral and physical rehabilitation.
• At the turn of the century, the average Filipino height measured 5’2 and 5’4 but with improved diet, exercise and sports the height increased to between 5’4 and 5’6.

Trade and Commerce Industry
• In 1909, when the American Congress passed the Payne-Aldrich Tariff Act, that the partial free trade relations between the Philippines and the United States were established. All Philippine exports were allowed to enter American markets except rice.
• To correct the inequality in the law, American congress passed the Simmons-Underwood Tariff act in 1913, which abolished the quota limitations on Philippine export products like hemp, sugar and tobacco.
• The development of domestic trade under the Americans was, therefore, not actually a boon to the Filipinos, who had to play second fiddle to the aliens.
• In the industry, the Philippines developed in the sense that factories, such as textile and cigar and cigarette factories, multiplied.
• Mining, one of the backbone of Philippine economy.
• Other foreign markets were neglected so that the closure to thundutiable Philippine exports resulted in economic dislocation. That is why Speaker Osmena and Resident Commisioner Quezon opposed free trade relation.
• Tydings of Mcduffie Independence Act of 1934 was about the restriction of the exportation of Philippine sugar, tobacco, hemp and coconut.
• The over-all effect of the Phlippine-American free trade relation was, therefore, the placing of Philippine economy at the mercy of the Americans.

Transportation and Communication
• The means of transportation vastly improved, for while the ancient bull carts, carretellas and calesas existed, the cars, trucks and railways speeded up the means of transportation.
• Rail road transportation was preceded by government’s acquisition of the Manila-Dagupan Railway Company, which became the Manila railroad Company.
• The inter-island shipping by the Americans in 1902 opened a hundred ports to domestic shipping. Ships owned locally were allowed to engage in inter-island shipping.
• Progress in communication was notable. Telephone lines, radio-telephone service, ordinary mails, money orders, air mail letters and packages were available.
• The improvement and building of roads, railways and bridges meant transportation of American tools, equipments and materials.
• As the history of the Philippines under the United States eloquently testifies, American altruism was engrafted with profit motive.

Individual Freedom
• McKinley’s “Benevolent Assimilation” Proclamation and his “Instructions” to the second or Taft Commission laid the bases of American policy in the Philippines.
• Filipinos were not allowed to enjoy full measure of freedom during the American tutelage.
• The Sedition Law of 1901, passed by the Philippine Commission, considered it seditious of any Filipino to advocate independence.
• The “flag” law of 1907, prohibited the display of Philippine flag.
• During the American regime, Filipinos were able to exercise their freedom.
• The pages of the nationalistic periodical El Renacimiento and its tagalog section, the Muling Pagsilang, were full of vitriolic attacks on the Americans, culturing in the most famous “Aves de Rapina” (birds of prey) libel case.
• Nationalistic plays were staged to remind the people of their freedom and independence.
• As the condition of peace and order improved, the repression of civil liberties was removed.

Political Consciousness
• Colonization implies the bringing over of American practices and institutions.
• Partisans politics was brought by the Americans.
• The Filipinos were as yet too politically naïve to understand the intricacies of modern politics.
• After the creation of bicameral legislature in 1916, Philippine politics followed the American groove.
• Thus, many American political practices finally found a rich soil in the Philippines.
• Despite the negative effects of imported brand of politics, Filipinos learned intricate machinery of government.

Language and Literature
• One of the most lasting American influences in the Philippines.
• English became the medium of instruction in schools and creative expression.
• Writers wrote, poems, essay, short story, novels and dramas
• The drama and the novel were the most neglected branches of literature, although few novels and plays were written.
• Adaptation of American words and phrases in the national language is a lasting influence. Some examples are, bulakbol(black ball) and paul (foul)
• In the third decade Filipinos started to translate English phrases to the national language.
• Over enthusiasm and ignorance of the tagalog idioms compelled some writers to translate English phrases indiscriminately.

It is important to reflect much on this period because it is during this time that we have experienced a de facto government under the american regime.

Filipinos born during this time were not american citizens and still were filipinos who needed visa to enter the any american territory.  Puerto Ricans right now are also not americans by nationality and by citizenship.  Since the summer of 2007, the Puerto Rico State Department has developed the protocol to grant Puerto Rican citizenship to Puerto Ricans.

Filipinos during the commonwealth era "enjoyed" american control on governmental and fiscal administration. 

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #109 on: January 13, 2009, 07:30:08 AM »
Good point, Mr. Ferniz.

Filipinos already control America.

10% of the entire American Medical System is Filipino.
There are 20,000 + Filipino Doctors practicing in the United States, and over 200,000 Filipino Nurses who are serving in hospital systems.

The Filipino population in the United States is around 2.3 million. Yet the American population is 303 million. Think about it in these terms; 0.69% of the American population controls 10% of the ENTIRE Health System.

:)

We have thousands of Filipino-Americans who are practicing attorneys here in the United States. And Filipinos have served as governors. Hawaii, in particular. :)

speaking from the Filipino American-side, we by no means have as much political power as we should.  Look to the campaign for our Filipino WWII Veterans for Full Equity which has been almost a 60+year struggle requesting the U.S. Congress to pay for full benefits.

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #110 on: January 13, 2009, 11:17:00 AM »
kinsa ng na sa avatar nimu ayessa?

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #111 on: January 13, 2009, 11:39:39 AM »
sya na calls o kaya ijang nanay

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #112 on: January 13, 2009, 12:24:31 PM »
roy man lagi tawag nija sa ubang mga thread. kaingun ko nga laki sya. thought iya na igsoon, ko unta pangayuon number. hehehe

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« Reply #113 on: January 13, 2009, 12:31:17 PM »
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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #114 on: January 13, 2009, 12:36:46 PM »
kinsa ng na sa avatar nimu ayessa?
si ayessa na calle afa ayo siya no?

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« Reply #115 on: January 13, 2009, 12:42:36 PM »
afa mo lang! tsk tsk tsk bright pa jud!

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #116 on: January 13, 2009, 04:44:11 PM »
ako intawun na no?  mamoot ko ninyo oi..  apil pangutan a si manay tess kay silingan mi diri

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« Reply #118 on: January 14, 2009, 05:02:24 PM »
hi! ayeee! hapi new year! ;-)

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Re: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America?
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 12:03:53 AM »
mao na resulta bsta gwapa ug avatar.. dghan kaayung managad.. heehhe

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