Author Topic: The Philippines: 51st State of the United States of America? (Read 83184 times)

Lorenzo · « **Reply #40 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:17:32 AM »

Ms. Azile,

Pray may I ask what are the reasons your husband has against the Philippines becoming a state?

Interested lang ko to hear his reasons.

Yours,

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Azile · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:41:29 AM »

Mr Lorezo he has nothing against Philippines he love Phil he even wanted to retire there and maybe started business just like 7-11 but i discourage him due to what i heard and observed there , i am forever Pinay , pero misamot ug kalisod karon kaysa niadto.Sa amoa lang daghan na kaayo ug kawat dili gani ko kagawas kon walay uban, samot na kong ako bana adto.
So maybe some Americans feels that way i can't speak for themselves but this is just an assessment now lets back to the topic i love this one hopefully positive things will come out.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #42 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:57:41 AM »

Ms. Azile,

Thank you for the reply. Am glad you like this thread. I am interested in reading other peoples' views on the matter, as well.

Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

Best,

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #43 on:** July 31, 2008, 12:30:50 PM »

Mr Lorezo he has nothing against Philippines he love Phil he even wanted to retire there and maybe started business just like 7-11 but i discourage him due to what i heard and observed there , i am forever Pinay , pero misamot ug kalisod karon kaysa niadto.Sa amoa lang daghan na kaayo ug kawat dili gani ko kagawas kon walay uban, samot na kong ako bana adto.
So maybe some Americans feels that way i can't speak for themselves but this is just an assessment now lets back to the topic i love this one hopefully positive things will come out.

Beth, welcome to the club, si banana di jud mo adto samot na ug mag hisgut ug retire! asa mo sugot! pastilan, i cant blame him jud kay sigi man sha maka dungog ug balita nga naay gipang kidnap ug uban pa. Ako bitaw giingnan nga mag negos nalang ta didto, ingon sad sha "are you put of your mind?" "When i retire im retiring and not to create another headache" hahahha pastilan jud.

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musiclover0526 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:30:03 PM »

Wishlist lang ni akoa no siguro kung sakop ang pinas sa USA dili siguro kaayo lisod mangita ug trabaho kay makatravel man ta with US passport , there are a lot of job opportunity ,low in unemployment , or maybe less corruption in the gov't.
I totally agree with the original writer of this topic things would be different somehow.

yup yup yup

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musiclover0526 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:31:00 PM »

Ok raman unta ang Pilipinas bisan di himoong 51st state sa US kon maayo pa ang naglead sa atong nasod..kanang dili corrupt kay daghan baya ang Pinas ug mga natural resources nga pwede makahatag daghang tarbaho kon naa pay ayo nag lead.

Ang problema sa atoa kay atong mga leader ang ila ra giplano unsaon pagpangorap instead nga magplano unsaon pagtabang sa katawhan.

Pero nindot god unta kon free pa ang pagsod gawas diha sa USA para sa mga Filipino kay kadtong makaaford pamilite pwede permi mosuroy as ilang mga relatives kay daghan man gayod kaayo mga Filipino dihas USA ron nagpuyo.

aron maduaw na nako si.........lolz

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musiclover0526 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:31:43 PM »

Azile, my husband always reminded me that "It was your fault Filipinos, because Americans wanted youto be one of the US our State, but your leaders strongly opposed it" ngek! hahah sigi jud ko nija ingnon ana..."See, you could've been the next Hawaii" insakto man sad.

korekkk ..og guam pod d ba,,,

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #47 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:34:14 PM »

aron maduaw na nako si.........lolz

...Bush! ambisyosa jud!

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musiclover0526 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:36:25 PM »

Yes, 'te.

During the time of Quezon, 'te, the Philippine Peso was even worth more than the American Dollar.

The Philippines, during the 20s and 30s era was not even touched by the Great Depression, as it enjoyed a favorable trade with China, Dutch Malaccas, British Malaya, British India, the United States and Latin American world.

The Philippines was the 'enviable' port of Asia. This is one of the main reasons why Japan targetted the Philippines in its conquest; one they wanted to remove the United States from Asia (and the United States had over 100,000 troops in the Philippines at the time) and secondly, the Philippines was a rich territory.

When I took American History in college, there was one song that our professor played in class, which was entitled, "My Filipina Baby". The song was about an American soldier who fell in love with a Filipina girl. It makes a strong relation to the cultural diction both countries played on each other.

World War II paralyzed the Philippines. The war ruined the growing Philippine industry; which was exploding during the 1930s.

Historically, one has Japan to blame for all the problems in the Philippines. They displaced populations, practically destroyed the City of Manila, which was the largest and richest city in Asia during the 1940s.

It is estimated that over 1,000,000 Filipinos died in World War II. And the Philippines' merchant marine was practically wiped out.

ako bitaw estoryahan ang mga hapon bahin ana..maulaw baya sila...hahahah

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Azile · « **Reply #49 on:** August 01, 2008, 04:52:02 AM »

Ms. Azile,

Thank you for the reply. Am glad you like this thread. I am interested in reading other peoples' views on the matter, as well.

Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

Best,

Mr Lorenzo "the wise men never ceases to learn" i really like that i think that reflect to your insight and outlook of life.Keep posting interesting thread and thank you.

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musiclover0526 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 01, 2008, 04:55:34 AM »

...Bush! ambisyosa jud!

d nako type si bush...hahhaha..ako duawon si jackie chan...lolss

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Azile · « **Reply #51 on:** August 01, 2008, 04:59:52 AM »

Beth, welcome to the club, si banana di jud mo adto samot na ug mag hisgut ug retire! asa mo sugot! pastilan, i cant blame him jud kay sigi man sha maka dungog ug balita nga naay gipang kidnap ug uban pa. Ako bitaw giingnan nga mag negos nalang ta didto, ingon sad sha "are you put of your mind?" "When i retire im retiring and not to create another headache" hahahha pastilan jud.

Ms da binsi sa una dako ako pangandoy nga mopuyo adto sa Bohol karon medyo nagkahanap pareha imo banana ,ang ako usab daghan ug rason anyway i just hope and pray every election nga hatagan ta ug mga leader nga dili corrupt .Pero unsaon man sab ning atong mga voters oi nga dili man wise enough whom to vote. Kumusta nalang Ms da binsi and May God Bless.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #52 on:** August 03, 2008, 07:07:42 AM »

During the 70s or 80s, I was in elementary grades. It was a time of chaos when the Marcos government starts to crumble. Then there was this radio commentator Aquilino Pimentel who proposed that statehood to the USA is the only solution of the then 9:1 peso vs. dollar slide. Needless to mention now as it is frustrating.

So, back to the topic, Pimentel become a successful politician due to this stand. However, at present situation, given his power and wealth, I don't think he could afford to say "I am for statehood". Since he became a Senator and in power, everything seems to be forgotten. Infact just recently he sponsored a bill for Philippines to become a Federal Republic, which is an exact copy of the US system. This means he does not only reversed his stand of US statehood, but to compete the system by copying it.

Well, I lost faith of our leaders. I don't know whom to believe anymore. I don't know if a leader is really patriotic, really sincere or just for self interest and power.

So, I believe President William McKinley was right in his famous words:

"We cannot give the Philippines back to the Pilipinos to run because, they are incapable of self-rule and self-governance.Therefore, I have decided that the Philippines will be annexed to the Map of the USA, and there it will stay, for as long as I am president."

Unfortunately, McKinley was assassinated shortly after he won his presidential election. Bright future died with him.

However, I have a trickle of hope left. That only hope is a man who has everything now in the US. But due to his pure concern to the fate of his nation, he will come back to the Phils to serve/run for office and implement reforms. He is not only one but many. These are the men and women whos concience could not stand to watch a dying country. We are the OFWs.

I am not a good writer folks, but I hope my thoughts are well understood.

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Azile · « **Reply #53 on:** August 04, 2008, 01:39:22 AM »

During the 70s or 80s, I was in elementary grades. It was a time of chaos when the Marcos government starts to crumble. Then there was this radio commentator Aquilino Pimentel who proposed that statehood to the USA is the only solution of the then 9:1 peso vs. dollar slide. Needless to mention now as it is frustrating.

So, back to the topic, Pimentel become a successful politician due to this stand. However, at present situation, given his power and wealth, I don't think he could afford to say "I am for statehood". Since he became a Senator and in power, everything seems to be forgotten. Infact just recently he sponsored a bill for Philippines to become a Federal Republic, which is an exact copy of the US system. This means he does not only reversed his stand of US statehood, but to compete the system by copying it.

Well, I lost faith of our leaders. I don't know whom to believe anymore. I don't know if a leader is really patriotic, really sincere or just for self interest and power.

So, I believe President William McKinley was right in his famous words:

"We cannot give the Philippines back to the Pilipinos to run because, they are incapable of self-rule and self-governance.Therefore, I have decided that the Philippines will be annexed to the Map of the USA, and there it will stay, for as long as I am president."

Unfortunately, McKinley was assassinated shortly after he won his presidential election. Bright future died with him.

However, I have a trickle of hope left. That only hope is a man who has everything now in the US. But due to his pure concern to the fate of his nation, he will come back to the Phils to serve/run for office and implement reforms. He is not only one but many. These are the men and women whos concience could not stand to watch a dying country. We are the OFWs.

I am not a good writer folks, but I hope my thoughts are well understood.

Amen to that Mr Macky, Mao nay giingon nga makuha na gani ang ilahang gipangandoy sa politics mawala na ang ilahang gipamulong , vanish like a wink of an eye, wala gyoy konsinsiya no?

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Azile · « **Reply #54 on:** August 04, 2008, 03:35:10 AM »

OOps i made and error i am meaning to say "blink of an eye" sorry Ladies and Gentlemen.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #55 on:** August 04, 2008, 04:36:48 AM »

That i would go home and vote! honest! naa gani mo tunol nako ako jud insultohon! bisan kinsa pa sha! haaah!

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #56 on:** August 04, 2008, 06:10:01 AM »

That i would go home and vote! honest! naa gani mo tunol nako ako jud insultohon! bisan kinsa pa sha! haaah!

Since long back, there is what we call Absentee Voting in the Philippine Embassy in Key cities around the world.

Tungod niining Absentee Voting, nabuhi pag-usab ang interest sa mga Filipinos nga citizens na sa ilang bag-ong nasud. Nahatagan pag usab ug hope ang Pilipinas tungod niini nga pagpakabana sa mga OF's and OFWs.

Kung maikomparar sa usa ka pamilya nga mi lakaw ang ginikanan kay nangompra, mi ingon ang mama sa kinamaguwangan nga anak "Mo lakaw sa ko kay mangompra ko", "Bantayi baya ang imong mga manghod", bantayi ang balay, ayaw pasulod ug mga tao". Apan pag balik sa inahan, nagkabulingit ang mga bata, nagkagubot ang balay, wala mag dung-ag ang maguwang ug gipang gutom ang mga manghod.

Karong mangutana ko ninyo, unsa man ang himoon sa ginikanan. Syempre iyang latoson ug kasab-an ang kinamaguwangan nga anak nga iyang gitogahan sa responsibilidad.

Mao ra pod ni ang situwasyon sa mga OFW nga mi langyaw mi sa laing lugar sa pangandoy nga mo usad ang kinabuhi. Nagpadala mi ug remittances nga maoy nag buhi sa economiya. Apan sa among pagbalik sa yutang natawhan, nagkaguliya ang dagan, ang proceeds sa among mga remittance wala gi tunong ug gamit ug gi waldas.

So unsa man ang among buhaton as OFW? Syempre mang latigo mi sa mga leaders nga nakaingon nga nagkaguliya ang dagan sa atong nasod.

Balik ta sa topic, kung dili pa gyud mo salir ning mga OFW, siguro ang Annexation na tingali sa USA ang solution. Like Puerto Rico, we will be given US citizenship, but we will remain an existing country. We will become like Hawaii, a tourist destination and retirement destination of the Americans.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #57 on:** August 04, 2008, 06:17:52 AM »

Ganahan ko anang imong pamalandong (is that pamalandong?)Mackz! insakto jud na!

Anyhow, ug himuon pa unta ta nga 51st state, i think maka ginansya pa ang Amerika kay daghan ta mga maajo nga workers, workers that would pay taxes unlike Mexicans! Illegal workers baja ang usa nga naka purdoy sa Merika kay sigi lang gawas ang datung diri wa na ka circulate...

Ug ma 51st state na ta, unsaon man nang mga Abu Sayaf sa Mindanao? i genocide? They are one big problem sa USA, kay ning penitrate na raba ang Al Qaida diha, I dont know how true...

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #58 on:** August 04, 2008, 07:05:03 AM »

I guess Abu Sayaf and other forms of rebellion would die out naturally, even without military action. The logic is simple; if everyone is contempted, if living conditions are fair, there is no rebellion at first place. We have freedom of religion in the Philippines and I don't think there are hendrances in Islamic religion. Muslims will be given special treatment with no discrimination. Like in the US, they are well respected and with equal opportunities like any other Americans, there are Muslim professors, doctors, scientists, police, you name it.

No religion is preaching evil. It is human self interest that makes everything evil and the cause of all trouble.

Here is Saudi Arabia, we are working in harmony with Muslims for decades. Working in foreign culture teaches you humbleness, respect and open mindedness. Infact the Muslims are the closest twin of the Christians in terms of belief and prophets.

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #59 on:** August 04, 2008, 07:10:47 AM »

Bitaw noh? tinuod jud! mo sugot sad kaha ang Pinas nga mahimong state? wa naman tingali mo offer ang merika?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #60 on:** August 04, 2008, 07:22:26 AM »

Bitaw noh? tinuod jud! mo sugot sad kaha ang Pinas nga mahimong state? wa naman tingali mo offer ang merika?

Tingali mahitabo na in times of extreme situations like Civil War. Like what happened in East Timor when their country is in civil chaos and Foreign governments must step in to intervene.

God forbid, if our situation leads us to civil war, the US can not just watch as we are allies. They must step in and intervene. As policy of the UN, a war torn country will be under a probationary rule of a host country until such time that the country can stand on its own. There is also an option weather to adopt that country after conducting a national referendum. Like what happened in Germany when the people/majority decided to join as one country.

Moreover, Philippines is in a very important strategic location that America wont allow us to fall in the wrong hands. Specially now that Iran and North Korea are developing ICBMs.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #61 on:** August 04, 2008, 09:17:17 AM »

I agree with you, Mr. Ferniz, concerning the importance of the Philippines to the United States.

The Philippines is a strategic strong point for the United States; in fact it is considered the third triangular point for the United States in the pacific. In this triangular choke point, one point is Guam, which is a major American Naval Base with powerful offensive and defensive capabilities; the second choke point is Taiwan, which is home for the American 7th Naval Fleet.

The 'Third' choke point is in southern Philippines; which the United States has re-entered in the 21st century; creating bases in Basilan as well as in other parts of Southern Mindanao.

Warm relations with the Philippines is an 'utmost' strategy for American naval hegemony in the Pacific. Who ever controls the Philippines has influence in the South China Sea, the Western Pacific and to the very gates of the Malaccas Strait, one of the heaviest trade intersections in the world.

This is the very reason why Japan invaded American-held Philippines in 1942 in order to eradicate American presence in Japan's Pacific Empire. Additionally, control of the Philippines allowed Japan to consolidate its overseas empire and natural resources from Java and Dutch Malacaas--allowing merchant fleets to travel through Japanese-occupied Philippines without the fear of American attacks.

It is the very reason why Americans re-conquered the Philippines in 1944 from the Japanese. The Philippines was used as a bombing base for the United States in 1944. American B-52 Super Fortress Bombers were based in Manila and Clark; and flew their sorties to Japan to pulverize her cities into submission.

Philippines has always been critical and pivotal for American Military Hegemony in the Pacific.

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fdaray · « **Reply #62 on:** October 19, 2008, 12:25:44 PM »

With the question above, I answered I don't know.
Its a long process to become a state of the USA.
Its impossible to happen.
Its unconstitutional.

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bol-anon_ko · « **Reply #63 on:** October 22, 2008, 12:10:07 AM »

I guess Abu Sayaf and other forms of rebellion would die out naturally, even without military action. The logic is simple; if everyone is contempted, if living conditions are fair, there is no rebellion at first place. We have freedom of religion in the Philippines and I don't think there are hendrances in Islamic religion. Muslims will be given special treatment with no discrimination. Like in the US, they are well respected and with equal opportunities like any other Americans, there are Muslim professors, doctors, scientists, police, you name it.

No religion is preaching evil. It is human self interest that makes everything evil and the cause of all trouble.

Here is Saudi Arabia, we are working in harmony with Muslims for decades. Working in foreign culture teaches you humbleness, respect and open mindedness. Infact the Muslims are the closest twin of the Christians in terms of belief and prophets.

i dotn know how true, but ang nakpait lang Mack wla kay freedom of religion sa Saudi. tinuod ba nga dli daw ka pwede mangadye dra .. dakpon daw ka kun makit-an?

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #64 on:** October 22, 2008, 10:01:51 PM »

i dotn know how true, but ang nakpait lang Mack wla kay freedom of religion sa Saudi. tinuod ba nga dli daw ka pwede mangadye dra .. dakpon daw ka kun makit-an?

Mao lagi BNC, lisod kaayo dire. Mabuhi man unta ang imong lawas, apan patay ang imong kalag.

Kung makit-an ka nga magdala ug Bible, Rosary or any religious picture, ang punishment deportation. Mao nga mag tago-tago tawn mi dire nga mag practice sa Christianismo. Mura mi sa panahon sa mga apostles nga nag underground kay dakpon sa mga sundalo nga Romans.

Pero lately naay maayong development. Since namatay si King Fahad, nagpadala ang Pope ug representatives to Mecca to attend the burrial. Since then, the relations of Muslims and Catholics developed.

So, when Pope John Paul died, the new King of Saudi King Abdullah, the brother of late King Fahad went to Rome to be the representative of one of the seven Churches.

When Pope John Paul II died, he fulfilled his duty to unite the 7 Churches as mentioned in the New Testament because all representatives of the 7 Churches including Islamic, Orthodox, Protestant, Evangelical were there during the burial rights. He was the 1st Pope to unite the 7 churches with 100% attendance, but during his death.

After that, there were rumors that King Abdullah used to visit the Pope during his diplomatic trips to Europe and they become good friends.

Also a rumor spread from the Physical therapist of King Abdullah who is a Filipino that there is a plan to legalize Christianity in selected parts of Saudi Arabia where Churches for Catholics and Chapels for Protestants are allowed.

In my place called Al Khobar, there is a secret Catholic and protestant Church inside Aramco. Once the law is passed, this will be opened to the public. Like in Dubai, Bahrain and other Islamic countries where there is an open Church for Christians.

Actually, Saudi is a very holy place for us Christians because Mecca is where Abraham performed sacrificial lamb instead of his son. Also Mt. Sinai is found there.

Also, for the Muslims, Jerusalem is one of the 3 places they have to visit when they perform thier pilgrimage or Haj, but now it is controlled by the Jews and they can not come there. There is a building there where Muslims believed the location of the manger where Jesus was born. Half of the building is a Mosque for Muslims and half is a Church. This is the only building where christians and muslims pray together. Actually, Jerusalem was derived from the Arabic word Dar Al Salam, means House of Peace.

So I don't understand why Christians and Muslims are fighting in Mindanao. Infact, both are the closest Religion with very little difference in terms of teaching.

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fdaray · « **Reply #65 on:** October 23, 2008, 11:09:47 AM »

Being a corrupt and poor country, kadaghanan moingon na lang nga magpasakop
ta sa USA. Apan sa tinuod kita ang pinakadato sa Asia sa manpower ug natural
resources. Ang atong kwarta sa Pilipinas daghan kaayo. Tungod sa kadaghan gi-
corrupt sa mga opisyales sa atong govierno. Kay kon gamay ra ang atong kwarta,
wala na karon ang Pilipinas. It ramained a stable and strong republic. Gikan sa
panahon ni Marcos, rampant na ang corruption hangtod karon. Apan wala mahurot
ang panudlanan sa governo kay daghan ta ug kwarta. Tungod sa kadaghan, gi-
corruptna lang ang uban. Kon wala pay corruption, ang Pilipinas datu na kaayo
karon. Matud pa sa usa ka ecomomist, ang kwarta nga gi-corrupt nagtuyok-tuyok
ra sa Pilipinas, mao nga wala ta mapurdoy. Bisag dako ug utang buhi lang gihapon.

With regards to statehood movement, its an unreacheable star.

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alfonso_potane · « **Reply #66 on:** October 23, 2008, 11:14:25 AM »

tinud gyud no.. ag libot libot lang ang kwarta nga gikorakot pero nag kadako pod ang atong utang sa ubang kanasuran... hasta ang mga katawhan napuno sa mga credit crads... utang gihapon huhuhu...

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #67 on:** October 23, 2008, 09:41:16 PM »

Sir Felix,

Tinood nang imong gi ingon nga ang kwarta sa Pilipinas nag libot libot lang. But with the advent of Globalization during the Ramos and Arroyo Administration, delikado kaayo ang atong kahimtang kay imbis pareha ta sa usa ka baloon sa una nga ang hangin nag libot libot lang, karon pareha na ta sa baloon nga buslot ug nag hinay hinay na ug kahiyos ang atong wealth pagawas sa atong nasod. Let me explain.

Sa una naa ang kurakot, so naay na super millionaire, ug dunay na pordoy, apan ang kwarta sa nasod mao lang gihapon ug wala mogamay.

Sa karong panahona, mi sulod na ang mga Chinese, mga Koreans ug gi tugotan kini sa Administration due to Globalization. So ang kwarta sa mga pinoy ilang gi suyop pagawas sa nasod. Wala masunod ang 60/40 scheme nga ownership policy sa mga Foreign Corporations kay puede ra man bayran ang SEC. Perhaps SEC is full of personnel who doesn't have knowledge in economy 101. One proof of it is the recently drilled Oil in Palawan where 60% of it's proceeds will go to the financiers who are foreign owned, 30% will go to the Philippine Government and 10% will go to the contractors. Naunsa na man ni oi. Nabali na man ang Policy, imbis nga 60% Filipino ownership and 40% Foreign. Since, foreign ownership is 60% so they are the ones who decide where the oil will be sold, which is most probably to China being the most energy hungry nation in Asia. I heared the news nga ang OPEC aw PNOC diay (corrected sorry) mura pa ug nagpakilimos nga mihangyo nga baligyaan unta sa Oil nga gi drill sa Palawan, apan gi tubag sa mga owner sa corporation nga we will decide that matter. What? Na unsa na man ni oi!

Secondly, mas daghan pa ang atong import compared sa atong export, so in the long run, nagka gamay ang atong ekonomiya, nagkapobre ang Pilipinas due to Globalization.

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bol-anon_ko · « **Reply #68 on:** October 24, 2008, 12:20:59 AM »

Libug lang ko sa statement nmu Kuya Mack's. Nganu nihanyu man ang OPEC nga baligya-an cla sa OIL.. Isnt OPEC an Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries? They are very rich in OIL..why would they buy one from Palawan.. nganu magpakalouy man cla? kagamay ra sa OIL makuha sa Palawan compared to the OIL being produced by OPEC members..

Sir fdaray, tinuod dghan kwarata pilipinas nga gipangkurakot.. apan ang utang dli na matabang.. hagbay rang na remate ang pilipinas kung alahas pa ning gi-prenda..

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fdaray · « **Reply #69 on:** October 24, 2008, 08:27:26 AM »

Tungod sa 12% EVAT dako kaayo ug kitaon ang governo, mao nga dili gyud
ta mapurdoy kay dako tag income kada adlaw sa EVAT lang. Rough estimate:
Katunga sa atong pupolasyon, 40, million people mopalit sa grocery ug goods
worth 200 pesos. The total sales is 8 billion. Multiply it by 12% for EVAT, ang
kitaon sa governo moabot ug 960 million pesos kada adlaw . Mao nga dili ang
Pilipinas mapurdoy kay sigi man ta ug dugang ug buhis. Sa sunod tuig , lain na
pud nga tax EEVAT (Elevated and Expanded Value Added Tax) . Kon patas-an
ang buhis, okey ra man ang Pinoy. Tungod sa atong kadato, dili mahurot ug
corrupt and atong kwarta.

Macky, I learn many things from you. Keep it up.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #70 on:** October 24, 2008, 09:38:57 AM »

With the question above, I answered I don't know.
Its a long process to become a state of the USA.
Its impossible to happen.
Its unconstitutional.

It is impossible now, as America would be considered an Imperialist State if it did. And there are many Americans within the United States that are antagonistic to American intervention in other countries' foreign affairs, let alone the take over of an entire country, especially a large one like the Philippines (whose population is estimated to hit 100 Million within a decade).

Though the prospect of statehood is impractical right now, rest assured that the United States and more importantly, the United States Armed Forces will never truly leave Philippine soil.

The Philippines has an important role to American Military Policy concerning its hegemony in the Pacific. The Philippines is truly the stepping stone to Asia-Mainland.

The Philippines is also close to America's territory of Guam and the Marianas. Suffice to say, the United States will NEVER allow any nation to touch the Philippines without soliciting a MASSIVE American Response.

The United States NEEDS the Philippines.

History has mandated it.

The United States launched the LARGEST Naval Campaign in the History of Mankind in 1944 in the Reconquest of the Philippines to eradicate Japanese presence in the island. As close to 1000 American Naval Ships sailed to the island of Leyte to retake the Philippines, thereby fulfilling MacArthur's "I will Return" promise.

America sacrificed over 60,000 of its Sons to take back the Philippines from the Japanese.

History has already demonstrated how much America wants the Philippines and NEEDS it.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #71 on:** October 24, 2008, 09:57:12 AM »

Libug lang ko sa statement nmu Kuya Mack's. Nganu nihanyu man ang OPEC nga baligya-an cla sa OIL.. Isnt OPEC an Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries? They are very rich in OIL..why would they buy one from Palawan.. nganu magpakalouy man cla? kagamay ra sa OIL makuha sa Palawan compared to the OIL being produced by OPEC members..

Sir fdaray, tinuod dghan kwarata pilipinas nga gipangkurakot.. apan ang utang dli na matabang.. hagbay rang na remate ang pilipinas kung alahas pa ning gi-prenda..

Aw sorry diay kaayo BNC. Tungod sa akong pag dali-dali, nasayop ko nga instead PNOC ang akong na type OPEC.

Correction please, thanks.

So, ang PNOC - Philippine National Oil Company na noon ang mura ug nagpakilimos nga baligyaan ug sa oil sa Palawan. Ato man unta na nga oil.

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bol-anon_ko · « **Reply #72 on:** October 24, 2008, 11:04:25 AM »

dli man c BNC si bol-anon_ko .. ang BNC si Bol-anon nga Cebuano..

mao nay gi-ingun Macks nga kalouy sa pinas.. mao na nuon nagpalimos sa kaugalingun nga OIL

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #73 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:16:13 PM »

Sorry Jez, permi jud ko malipat sa injong mga alyas.

GALOC Oil diay ang name ani nga Oil, which is derived from a place in Palawan called Galoc oil fields.

Accordingly, as per the latest news, Philippine based Oil companies were given access to take sample of GALOC Oil. However, after testing, PETRON declared that their equipments are unable to refine this kind of oil. Their refineries are designed for Arabian type crude oil which is thicker in consistency.

Meanwhile, SHELL Co. declared that thier refineries could handle such type of Oil.

The question is, will the foreign Corporations who drilled the oil, sells it to Shell Phils.?

As per the press interview, the drilling company informed that it has yet to be decided by their board.

You see, since they have 60% of the oil share, they have most rights to decide where to sell the oil. Perhaps the approving comittee forgot thier patriotism during the signing of the contract due to SOP (under the table). For foreign companies, it is much cheaper to give a few millions to our officials to get their objectives. It is much easier and cheaper than to go through the right/legal procedure.

Actually, we have gone too out of topic on this thread, but the main point is that, there will be less corruption if we are under American rule.

Also why should Filipinos bother if we will become the 51st State? Since we will automatically become American Citizens, the logic would be America don't own us, "we own America" should that happen. Filipinos would automatically become part owner of USA.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #74 on:** October 26, 2008, 06:22:57 AM »

Good point, Mr. Ferniz.

Filipinos already control America.

10% of the entire American Medical System is Filipino.
There are 20,000 + Filipino Doctors practicing in the United States, and over 200,000 Filipino Nurses who are serving in hospital systems.

The Filipino population in the United States is around 2.3 million. Yet the American population is 303 million. Think about it in these terms; 0.69% of the American population controls 10% of the ENTIRE Health System.

We have thousands of Filipino-Americans who are practicing attorneys here in the United States. And Filipinos have served as governors. Hawaii, in particular.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #75 on:** October 26, 2008, 06:26:21 AM »

Filipinos are the richest out of all the Asian-American ethnic groups.

The average Filipino-American family earns more than the Caucasian-Americans, Black-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Indian-Americans etc.

We are known as the 'Model American'.

We come to this country as underprivileged and yet find a way to rise to the top.

The Filipino, is RESILIENT. And most of all AMBITIOUS. God-Given qualities.

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Macky Ferniz · « **Reply #76 on:** October 26, 2008, 11:36:40 PM »

You are right Lorenzo.

Flips working class are classified as average to upper class income level and highest leteracy rate among ethnic communities in the US.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #77 on:** October 28, 2008, 08:48:38 AM »

The work ethic and religiosity of our parents are transferred to us, their offspring.

When you say Filipino here in the 'states, it is already synonymous with Medicine or Nursing.

In fact, when I did my rounds this past summer at a local hospital; a patient said something that made me smile concerning her choice of Doctor to treat her. When the admitting nurse took the patient, the patient requested she have a Jew or a Filipino doctor treat her. haha

God Bless the Filipino!

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #78 on:** October 28, 2008, 11:19:09 AM »

51st State? - It's only a number my friends, no and never to this idea and welcome freedom of the brown race here in the philippine archipelago. we shed blood on this freedom never to surrender it, never and nevah!..........

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #79 on:** October 28, 2008, 06:54:16 PM »

I respect your views, Buwad.

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