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I feel Republicans was stranged for not supporting a cause which would benefit most of the Americans, is Obama right about his health care?

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this must be supported by all means! Paradox kaayo nga ang mga normal US citizens, dili sila maningkamot, karon na kini nga higayon. Nag-anam na ka pobre ang Amerika kay world police lagi. Why bother outside the bounderies where in fact the needs here are enorm.

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Lisod  lagi kon sudlan  sa  pamolitika...di  lang  gusto  sa mga  Republicans  nga  modaug  and  idea  ni Pres. O.

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tinuod jud ka 'Day. anyhow balik ta sa mga disabled, akong miga nga koreana naa sad sha polio ingon sha palangga daw sha diri kay sa asia. she married to an american though. pero bisan pa man wa kay papel, basta disable ka atimanon jud ka noh?

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Now that the United States has become a welfare state.



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Dili lang mga tiguwang diri pinangga oi tanan apil mga bata ug buntis. Nakatry na ko ani. Nanawag ko sa ahong OB katong buntis ko kay naunsa ba pud to inghilak man ko. Nurse man jud na sa imong doctor motubag ug una unya nangutana ko niya nga normal ra ba ning mokalit ra ko ug hilak. Mao to giatiman jud ko pag ayo adto gipangutana ug ok ra ba ko unya giingnan nga paadtuon ko dayon sa E.R kay ila pagtuo na depress ko. Ga oo ra jud ko adto. Wa man oroy ko moadto mao kapila kaha ko gitawagan diri sa ahong doctor ug nurse kay dapat jud daw tan awon ko ug doctor. Gitawagan nila ang pinakaduol nga hospital namo diri gi arrange ang oras ug bilib kaayo ko sa ilang concern. Naulaw jud nuon ko adto nganong gahilak hilak ko hehhehe naconcern jud nuon sila pag ayo. Giprovidan ko nila ug psychologist hahaha unya na determine nga OK ra ko basin adto nga time kono nga nanawag ko inghilak basin na out of wacked ag ahong hormones. Ug diri ko ingbilid sa pag atiman nila diri.

Sa atua tawagan ba ta sa atong doctor month after ka inggawas sa hospital mangutana ug ok na ba ka. Mga nurse diri magsegi ug monitor nimo labi na bag o ka nanganak manawag jud na sila nimo magsubay naunsa na ka. Wa siguro ni sa atua.

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in europe obligatory ang tanan, kuhaan na before nga madawat nimo ang imong suheldo. duna sila giingon nga categories: A, B, C & D. cat. A kadtong dako ug suheldo they recieve less back from the insurance, kon moadto sa dr. or any exams. Cat. D is para sa mga chronically ill or low income. some of the chroniccaly ill, they recieve money from the insurance. not on my case kay naa may pension nga madawat gikan sa ahong ningpanaw nga bana which is a bit bigger than the health insurance and you pay less (nearly nothing) kon moadto ko sa dr. or any examinations. Ex. my Avonex (injection) which cost 840 euro, i pay only 10 euro & the rest the insurance takes care of it.
ug sa ahong nahinumduman nga sa didto pa mi sa germany, di man ko mongbayad sa dr. sila na ang mo send sa bill ngadto sa health insurance. my secarian section, wa koy gibayaran gawas sa gamit sa telepono, 16 deutch mark in that time? I stayed 2 wks in the hospital. i find that good.

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Merika is all about pride Glace! sumala gud ang Iraq? Jezuz! kadako sa gasto! pero hala sigi para to boost sa pride. Vietnam? nga sa panahon ila gisulong ang Vietnam, mas powerful pa man ang Pinas adtong panahona? Honest to God ug gi gasto pa na sa Merika nang kwartaha na, wa unta daghang  PANGAG diri!

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mao jud... okay ra unta to if mapride nya dili magsalig sa food stamp!

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Ayaw  pod   pag-ana  mo  uy...daghan  baja  pod  ang  nahimo sa America  sa  kalibutan... apil  man  jod  na  sa ilang  budget  aron  magpabilin  sila  nga  maoy  mo-lead...

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Bitaw di ko mutoo nga ma ut -ot ang america daghan tag natural resources diri nga ang uban wa pa gyud makuhai ipangreserve ni for next generation so dili ko ma convince ma ut-ot ang U.S kay rich kaayo ni ug natural resources, sa kadako sa yuta sa america klase klase pud ang resources.

Makasurvive and U.S bisan pa wala na ang ubang import.

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Actually, if you all have read into Obama's health care policy, it is rather oblique in its policy and implementation. Its 900+ pages of pure bullshittt. His policy, is left wing liberalist.

If it were to be implemented, we would have a medical situation.

How? It proposes to drastically cover an additional 40-50 million more Americans in the already limited medicare system. How can it afford to cover an additional 40+ million when the funds for the said system is already depleting; and if implemented would result in a drastic raising of taxes. American people are the most stubborn individuals regarding tax hikes/ we all know the result of local politicians if they raise taxes.

Again, theory and practice are different.

And its policy forces Americans to have a health care provider via government ordinance, else be subject to excessive fines.
Interesting. But the core problem here, OBAMA, is that many Americans cannot , in the first place, afford medical health care insurace to begin with.

Second. Resources. We are already strained to begin with regarding medical professionals. We simply do not have enough PCPs/ specialists/ nursing staff in many of the states. Some hospitals are understaffed of physicians and nurses.

And the root to this problem is the fact that we are not graduating enough doctors or / are making it too difficult for foreign medical grads to come to the united states. Obama has failed to address this root problem. How can we be expected to address and additional 40-50  million more patients with a faulty medicare system (which will buckle in time) when we are already understaffed to begin with? In engineering terms pa ni, we have a give limited resources to solve a problem. If we further increase work demand while maintaining said resource cap, the time in solving the problem will be increased.
Or in business terms. We have assets, which is the total owner's equity plus liabilities. In this situation, we are raising liabilities and maintain owner equity. As net result, the assets would have to rise, right? But in this case, it cannot since staff is already limited. And laws that have set in place the medical boards and the medical licensing system takes years and will take an additional year(s) to be ammended, if not at all!

This is a problem that cannot be fixed the next day. We have a pluripotent situation. We need doctors, but it must be understood that it takes YEARS to train doctors. And it takes MORE medical institutions to address the demand situation. So.
We need to build more medical schools. Apply and implement MORE financial rewards for medical students/ physicians to enter the field.

Obama fails to address the AMA's pleas to limit and put a cap on medical malpractice lawsuits.
He expects us, THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, to give our heart and soul and take pay cuts, and work longer hours, but at the same time, he will not curve the malicious and voracious lawsuits and medical malpractice sharks out there (no offense to lawyers and law students).

The environment for growth should also cater to the needs of the medical student population/ physician population.

It is simple Laissez Faire.

I am being realistic. If he wants to solve the situation; and wants his policies to work; he should at least address and lift the immigration quota laws for foreign medical grads (medical, nursing, therapy, etc).


Lorenzo,
3rd Year Medical Intern.

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Yes, for better service to the people.

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ang AMA man jud ang against ani. di na kasapi ang mga greedy docs! tan awa sa France ug ubang continents dili datu ang mga doctor kay ang pagka doctor didto is VOCATION...diri ang health is a BUSINESS.

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Wrong, absolutely wrong.

AMA implemented this because it is a protective policy to keep the American Medical System, which is the best in the world, the best in the world.

It is impossible to compare medical system in France to that of the United States. One follows a socialist policy, as is with most of Europe and the EU. The United States, does not yet follow a socialist system.

And in actuality, you are wrong. Physicians in Europe do not go into medicine as a vocation, they go into the field because they are chose to do so, the same way as we go into medicine here in the United States, as well as in the Philippines in any other situation.

The Physician, like any other, like even you nurses, also has to eat. Has to pay his bills.
We live in a realistic world. Not idealistic.

It is not about affording or not. It is about the concept of the health system. If we give in to a sympathetic plea and abandon the entire system that is in place, which was set in place for a particular reason, then would result in ramifications.

We have free clinics out there in society.

We do not live in a idealist world. Things in life cost money, everything costs something. The salary of nurses, the nursing staff, the therapists, cost of money to buy drugs, utensils, catheters, surgical tools, salary of administration, salary of physicians etc.

In life, and in society, everything functions via a corporate level. Hospitals are corporations.
Mo talk ko in words of business men/ CEOs. Mo step out ko sa box of a physician'/medical intern's point of view:

Businesses work through profits and revenue. Profit is equal to total revenue minus the cost of operation and payables. diba? In order for a system to work, for everything to function, the profit must exceed cost of operations. Diba? Else, the entire system will buckle. Mo bankrupt. Mao na'y wa jamo daghan free-health clinics. Kai..everyone needs to live. Things happen in a system. Pariho ra pood ni sa body..hehehe.
Mo kaon ta kai ang lawas it requires sugars, so mo bring ni sa glucagon pathway, diba? Mo kaon ang lawas kai necessary man sa sustensya sa lawas na we get our dialy requirements of proteins, essential amino acids, as well as the right water balance. Ug mo deprive ta ani...ma guba ang lawas. Hence we seen instances of Kwashiorkor (excessive protein malnutrition--resulting in hepatomegaly and thinning of the limbs); we also see marasmus (overall nutritional starvation).

Pariho ra ning examples nako sa system sa hospital. System man pood na. Instead of specialized cells etc etc; ang cells aning example are doctors, nurses, staff etc. Staff need nutrition as well. Else will lead to nutritional hypoloading. he he he.

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Everything in society is all about CAUSE and EFFECT.




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You cannot compare because first of all, the playing grounds regarding MEDICAL EDUCATION between both countries are totally different. France, UK and many other EU nations have government that will provide and pay educational costs, fully reimuburse the medical student. So financial aspect is covered.

In the United States, the medical student / physician pays out of pocket or through medical loan, which must be paid back, and are given in outrageous interest rates.

The average medical student comes out with about $300,000-$400,000 in debt.
Thats alot. Thats a cost to a rather nice house.
Now imagine having to pay that amount as that amount is being charged an APR of 15-20%.

It's not about greed. It's about principle. The Principle.
Either you get it or not.

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That is besides the point, Manay Tess, as we are not discussing medical missions abroad.
We are discussing the status of the health care reform in the United States.

And to reiterate to you as well as others, there are thousands of American Physicians who are enlisted in MSF (Mediciens Sans Frontiers) {Doctors Without Borders}.
As well as not to include the thousands of medical physicians/nurses and medical specialists that go on medical missions abroad. The amount of medical donations the United States does to the world, to Africa, alone has exceeded over 50 billion dollars. (All from the Bush Administration).

My aunt, who is a Trauma Nurse specialist as well as my tito who is a medical doctor from Georgia has gone on medical missions abroad. I myself have volunteered hundreds of hours on free health clinics during my undergraduate years as well as in Medical Proper. On November 29,2009, I devoted and gave 14 hours on a free health clinic drive; treating and seeing over 200 patients that day.

The topic we are discussing is not based on loving neighbors.
It is based on the feasibility of this kind of reform to the current financial situation.
And given legal situation.

Again, I will reiterate, it is about PRINCIPLE.

Best,
Lorenzo L.
3rd Year Medical Intern

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You make a good point, you raise the question of "Why not free health care and why military action?"

Politics, my dear. It is simple politics. The robber barons of our time would rather rob the financial life of the physician and the common man. As in the end, the physician does not make that much income as what some of you might think and put heavy emphasis on "Greedy Docs". The blame should be directed towards the businessmen and corporate owners who make policy. The ones who make money from this is the Health Insurance Company CEOs.

I, myself and many other of my generation of medics want reform. We want SOLID and PROPER reform. We do not want empty promises and no action.

We want many things, which are addressed by the AMA and many other health organizations that speak for the unheard voices of the uninsured. Namely, this is too much to list in this post; rather I would have you search and visit AMA's website and read what it stands for and what it believes in policy change.

We enter this profession because it is a noble cause. It is a calling.
The ones who do make money of it are the politicians that implement laws that require us to follow, under penalty of license suspension.

We need to address many things:

1. Raise immigration quota laws for foreign medical grads
2. Raise the amount of medical school acceptance rates for medics
3. Raise the salary for some medics (specially PCPs)
4. Reduce and limit / put a cap on medical malpractice
5. Reduce the insurance company's autonomy in impelementing policy
6. Give uninsured indviduals cheaper/affordable health insurance coverage.


These are the changes that would ultimately change the situation at hand. Now we need to implement it.


Regards,
A.L.L

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now AMA is right! you sided the HCR before and now you're in your third year, you sided the AMA.



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bali mi diri Kel! si banana di ganahan mo basa! daghan na sha reading materials pero puro ra jud na abput POOL! ug bahin na ug health ug uban pa ako nay pabasahon! hahahha!

usahay Magbasa ko murag grade III, (im a slow reader) ma lipay na sha ana...

huy ug naa moy copy ipang pasa na ha?

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