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Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« on: September 24, 2008, 02:51:15 PM »
Have you ever read or met Fr Fernando Suarez? Do you believe ih his miracle healing? Does his Montemaria Shrine in Batangas a big thing?

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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 02:52:24 PM »
Please listen to this:

Klicken Sie hier: "YouTube - cyber healing center vol1 JESUS HEALING PRAYER thru FR FERNANDO SUAREZ be healed in cyberspace"

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 11:06:39 PM »
i've seen so many healing prayers from priests and pastors but none of them proved they really can heal.

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 02:14:21 AM »
I haven't heard about the healing power of a Father Suarez.  I think it all boils down to FAITH.

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 05:42:23 AM »
please try to visit his website, this priest is a humble instrument of God!

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 05:42:38 AM »
Klicken Sie hier: "Father Fernando Suarez Healing Ministry: Home"

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 10:19:12 PM »
reports came out in yesterday's newspapers that one person died in fr. suarez healing mass in tacloban city.

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2008, 05:28:57 PM »
reports came out in yesterday's newspapers that one person died in fr. suarez healing mass in tacloban city.
Wa man ka ha tok-a ni Fr Fernando Suarez?

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 09:21:53 PM »
the guy is already very sick and they suspect that he haven't taken any food before joining the gathering. probably died of hunger.

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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 04:28:08 AM »
Fr Suarez was here in Bonn, Germany last June 13-14,2008. I was a volunteer. I got a blessings from him after the mass. I got of spiritual renewal and this faith increases, filled with contentment and peace. He is a real healer and instrument of God.  I was hoping that some of the TB members shared same experience, too.

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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 12:50:36 PM »
Who could ever heal a person who is suffering  BACTERIA and VIRUS?

ONLy ANTIBIOTIC! walay healer maka tabang ana...got my point?

I want Dodong Insoy's opinion to this being a spiritual medical student...

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 12:54:13 PM »
hello! kanang nagplano moeskwela pagka doktor ayaw na lang mo padayon kay mahimo na man manambal bisan ang mga wala moeskwela ani nga profession

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 12:55:43 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 12:57:00 PM »
I am not the center of my life but knowing the plan of GOD for me is....
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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 01:18:05 PM »
The scripture is clear about false prophets and healers....

Jesus said many will come in my name and will deceive many... see to it that you are not alarm...

Simon magus was the father of false healers, he was the one who wanted to buy the Holy Spirit from the Apostles. His influence still exist today in the church, specially the counterfit church.....


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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2008, 03:55:28 PM »
unsaonz atong nasod galisod man..mao jud manimpad lang para maayo...wa mawala sa ilang pagtoo

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 10:08:42 PM »
father suarez is getting richer and richer and has travelled around the world using his faith healing ministry. most of the money used in building his church and healing/renewal center are from donations.
i don't have to take away other people's beliefs but in my own opinion, medical experts are the only one who can heal wounds, sickness and diseases. well of course, it's still coupled with prayers and faith in God.

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2008, 03:09:43 AM »
Who could ever heal a person who is suffering  BACTERIA and VIRUS?

ONLy ANTIBIOTIC! walay healer maka tabang ana...got my point?

I want Dodong Insoy's opinion to this being a spiritual medical student...


There is only the power of Lord Jesus Christ, God Blessed Forever.
Have faith in your own power and your own will! Which the LORD has given us, all of us. Ingoon ang Ginoo nato; knock and it shall be opened to you, seek and you shall find, ask it it will be given to you.

Ang meaning ani is: Self Discipline and Maturity! If you are sick, ask medical advice from a physician. If you are in legal problems, ask the advice of an attorney. If you have spiritual woes, read scripture or attend mass/church to soften and elate your battered souls!

That is my view on this matter. I will not judge Fr. Suarez because I have not met the man and I submit the fact that the Lord God in Heaven does work in mysterious ways. So long as the heavens are above the earth, so long as the rain continues to fall to the earth and so long as wheat are gathered and sown, and so long as the bread is offered to all, His ways are above our ways.

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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2008, 05:12:11 AM »

There is only the power of Lord Jesus Christ, God Blessed Forever.
Have faith in your own power and your own will! Which the LORD has given us, all of us. Ingoon ang Ginoo nato; knock and it shall be opened to you, seek and you shall find, ask it it will be given to you.

Ang meaning ani is: Self Discipline and Maturity! If you are sick, ask medical advice from a physician. If you are in legal problems, ask the advice of an attorney. If you have spiritual woes, read scripture or attend mass/church to soften and elate your battered souls!

That is my view on this matter. I will not judge Fr. Suarez because I have not met the man and I submit the fact that the Lord God in Heaven does work in mysterious ways. So long as the heavens are above the earth, so long as the rain continues to fall to the earth and so long as wheat are gathered and sown, and so long as the bread is offered to all, His ways are above our ways.

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Dodong sa panahon sa bible era wala pay tambal against bacteria and virus and all they do is pray ask their God to cure them but remember mas daghan nangamatay sa una.

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2008, 09:02:41 AM »
And they were right to pray, Ate Belle.

Prayer can never do any harm to a person, anything that invigorates one's soul and one's faith, can bring peace of mind to any person given his or her medical circumstance. Faith can do so much as help in the person's fighting of illness and invigorate them battle their disease and or given them solace to accept their terminal illness and to have peace with The Almighty.

When a person is sick, when an individual is suffering from a severe cold, a viral attack or infection, Providence has already given them the means to fight their condition.

As Our Lord God is an intelligent and brilliant God. He has given us, in his design of our body, lympathic systems which drains and collects deoxygenated blood, extracellular fluid, debris, as well as peroxisomes, lysosomes, leukocytes, plasma cells and antigen coding cells that target bacterial, and viral pathogens. Providence, by his intelligence and wisdom, has designed the creation of mast cells, which contain heparin and glucocorticoids, and upon infection will result in the release of cytotoxic material that will lead to vasodilatory/vasoconstrictory modules that will thereby force the cardiovascular system to pump oxygenated blood rich in white blood cells as well as macrophagic cells to fight of and secure the bacterium, virum in question. Because he knew that the release of heparin and cytotoxic chemicals of the mast cells will lead to the profuse action of the lymph nodes to drain out debris and dead/dirty matter to be excreted into the venous system: the greater sciatic vein; the femoral vein, the basilic vein, the cephalic vein, the median-cubital vein etc.

Providence, by his brilliance and unassailable intelligence has given man the ability to fight his or her own disease. Our bodies are given natural abilities to heal and treat itself. The presence of physicians and medicine is only there to augment the natural healing capacity/capability of our bodies, to which Providence has given us.

Prayer, can never be bad. Prayer, is actually good and can give a peace of mind to a sick individual. And provide him/her a spiritual rock that he/she can lean on as he/she fight his/her disease.

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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008, 09:20:39 AM »
re:When a person is sick, when an individual is suffering from a severe cold, a viral attack or infection, Providence has already given them the means to fight their condition.


Dodong, you can never say these things to your soon to be American Patients, specially when you will be practicing in the big cities.

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2008, 09:25:40 AM »

Ms da bins di ba duna nay (hakop sauna) kanang gitawag nilag herbal medicine...

Dodong sa panahon sa bible era wala pay tambal against bacteria and virus and all they do is pray ask their God to cure them but remember mas daghan nangamatay sa una.

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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2008, 09:27:17 AM »
Of course, 'te, I am taking Medical Ethics right now and know of the practical codes and am already doing hospital visitations and introduced so such cases.

We must, as medical students/physcians, be neutral to patients. We must listen to the patient and be sensitive to their cultural and religious standing. The patient has the right to accept or reject medical treatment; as it is in the basis of the autonomy of the patient (being that they are psychologically and physically competent).

Kaning patients that I have met already in our hospital; many of them just want to be heard. I've spent some time with some hospice-care patients and many of them are content and taking advantage of the family around them. One patient I talked to loved to talk, she's a really good person baya. Very warm and bogol-bogolon, made me and my fellows laugh. I see patients like her who are content of their terminal illness, then I've seen some patients who were moribund and was not at ease at all. But that is the reality jud, diba, 'te?



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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2008, 09:33:25 AM »




Lindy dear, before anything else, im so happy to see you back! i really missed your posts dear.

Anyhow some of the  herbal medicines are accepted in some areas of Medical practices, they only needs to be studied properly before prescribing it to people, pero i think you meant the SHAMAN'S kanang mga quack doctors? mao na imong gi mean? For me ang mga Shaman are the kindergartens in the medical studies.

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2008, 09:39:46 AM »
Of course, 'te, I am taking Medical Ethics right now and know of the practical codes and am already doing hospital visitations and introduced so such cases.

We must, as medical students/physcians, be neutral to patients. We must listen to the patient and be sensitive to their cultural and religious standing. The patient has the right to accept or reject medical treatment; as it is in the basis of the autonomy of the patient (being that they are psychologically and physically competent).

Kaning patients that I have met already in our hospital; many of them just want to be heard. I've spent some time with some hospice-care patients and many of them are content and taking advantage of the family around them. One patient I talked to loved to talk, she's a really good person baya. Very warm and bogol-bogolon, made me and my fellows laugh. I see patients like her who are content of their terminal illness, then I've seen some patients who were moribund and was not at ease at all. But that is the reality jud, diba, 'te?




Korek jud Dodong! Speaking of patients having late stages of illnesses are so much different from the elderly. You know the elderly people are more open to religious conversations than people with late stages illnesses. Kay they are still in denial that they have such illness, Dodong these people never seeks God but the right medication to cure them. (applicable only to americans). Dili jud unless they nag tinga na jud sila, then some seeks God'd blessing...

Anyway you will not only learn all that but will experience in real life...

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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2008, 09:51:57 AM »
Thank you, Ate Belle.

I trust you and seek comfort in your knowledge of these cases because you are a nurse. And nurses are so well gifted in patient understanding.

I will turn to you, Ate Belle, if I ever have any questions on patient care in the future.

You nurses are so well gifted with patient care. And your knowledge is priceless.



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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2011, 11:26:21 PM »
re:When a person is sick, when an individual is suffering from a severe cold, a viral attack or infection, Providence has already given them the means to fight their condition.


Dodong, you can never say these things to your soon to be American Patients, specially when you will be practicing in the big cities.

Actually,

In the medical field, you see a lot of patients who ask you as a medical intern / physician to pray over them. One must try to do one's best to uplift and reassure the patient of recovery.

There was actually a research done by medical scientists on the effect of prayers prior to surgery. The result concluded that there was a positive correlation between successful surgery, successful recovery with prayer and or spiritual activity. The article was written by Dr. Robert Shmerling, MD, a Professor of Medicine at Harvard University, USA.



http://health.msn.com/health-topics/can-prayer-heal-the-sick



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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2011, 11:41:39 PM »
Who could ever heal a person who is suffering  BACTERIA and VIRUS?

ONLy ANTIBIOTIC! walay healer maka tabang ana...got my point?

I want Dodong Insoy's opinion to this being a spiritual medical student...

Generally, if a person has bacterial infection, we would treat them with appropriate antibiotics. If a person is suffering from a diseases that is caused by a virus, then the proper mode of treatment would be via specific anti-virals. However, one has to take into consideration that there are diseases out there (bacterial, viral, mycotic) that are resistant to current modes of treatment. One very common disease that plagues many hospitals is MRSA (methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus), which responds poorly to antibiotics that we do have. There is actually a new strand called VRSA (vancomycin resistant staph aureus), which is a prolific killer of many immunosuppressed patients.



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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2012, 02:55:04 PM »
it all boils down to a matter of faith.  even doctors know that no matter what they do to a person, if the person does not want to heal, he won't heal, according to a lesson shared by a local medical student.

as for the gift of healing, many people have it, so why not a priest in this instance?


Father Suarez claims he discovered his gift of healing at the age of 16.  He saw a crippled woman and upon feeling sorry for her, he sat and prayed with her.  During this, he literally started to feel bones growing in her legs, and due to shock, he ran away.  To this date, no one has found this woman.  He tried to keep this a secret for as long as he could, and agreed to pray with the sick as long as they didn't tell anyone about him for a fee or a donation.  However, upon being ordained a priest, it became more evident to him that the gift of healing was not only meant for him, but to be shared with other people as well.  Since then he has been traveling around the world celebrating healing Mass and praying with the sick.

On January 11, 2008, Manila Cardinal Archbishop Gaudencio Rosales officiated the sacrifice of the Mass which started the 3-day, 40-hour vigil at Fr. Suarez' Batangas City Montemaria mega-shrine.  Hundreds of devotees and the sick gathered.

Suarez, 44, announced his return to and resumption of healing in the Philippines on May, 2008.

Suarez, on July 21, 2008, healed Filpinos in the 7 hours healing Mass at the Saint Joseph Community in Brussels, Belgium.

Fr. Suarez had his radio program "Healing Grace with Fr. Fernando Suarez" aired over Radyo Veritas every Sunday night.
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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2012, 03:01:41 PM »
meanwhile, one can be assured of some kind of balance...


On January 25, 2008, the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines CBCP public affairs head and Caloocan Bishop Deogracias Iñiguez, Jr. stated that "while they are happy for Suarez, they will remain "watchful" of his healing Masses and activities."

On January 26, 2008, 2 died and 7 were rushed (due to exhaustion) to James Gordon Hospital, Olongapo City while waiting for Fr. Suarez' healing Mass. Juanito Eleazar, 69, died of heart attack amid more than 15,000 patients having lined-up.

At Mexico, Pampanga, 39-year-old colon cancer-stricken Alberto Tapnio died while in wheelchair (and thereafter blessed by Fr. Suarez during a healing Mass). Tapnio was DOA (dead on arrival) at a hospital but was revived by electric shocks. Upon notice of the resurrection, the crowd of 20,000 people started clapping, praying and shouting, but Alberto died 4 hours later.
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this priest may heal, but who says he has control over life and death?  sometimes, we fall victim to our own expectations.

i believe in this priest.  given the chance, i wish to observe his healing ministry even just once.

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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2012, 03:11:26 PM »
it all boils down to a matter of faith.  even doctors know that no matter what they do to a person, if the person does not want to heal, he won't heal, according to a lesson shared by a local medical student.

as for the gift of healing, many people have it, so why not a priest in this instance?


Father Suarez claims he discovered his gift of healing at the age of 16.  He saw a crippled woman and upon feeling sorry for her, he sat and prayed with her.  During this, he literally started to feel bones growing in her legs, and due to shock, he ran away.  To this date, no one has found this woman.  He tried to keep this a secret for as long as he could, and agreed to pray with the sick as long as they didn't tell anyone about him for a fee or a donation.  However, upon being ordained a priest, it became more evident to him that the gift of healing was not only meant for him, but to be shared with other people as well.  Since then he has been traveling around the world celebrating healing Mass and praying with the sick.

On January 11, 2008, Manila Cardinal Archbishop Gaudencio Rosales officiated the sacrifice of the Mass which started the 3-day, 40-hour vigil at Fr. Suarez' Batangas City Montemaria mega-shrine.  Hundreds of devotees and the sick gathered.

Suarez, 44, announced his return to and resumption of healing in the Philippines on May, 2008.

Suarez, on July 21, 2008, healed Filpinos in the 7 hours healing Mass at the Saint Joseph Community in Brussels, Belgium.

Fr. Suarez had his radio program "Healing Grace with Fr. Fernando Suarez" aired over Radyo Veritas every Sunday night.
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Isles, Amen!

Medicine is never "100% sure" of anything. We only implement strategies with what we know to be 'scientifically and medically sound' according to our present understanding of nature and its biochemical, genetical, and physical laws.

I can remember several weeks ago during a code blue, one patient we had suffered from Ventricular Tachycardia, which progressed to Ventricular Fibrillation. Despite the efforts of the medical staff (we gave him 3 boluses of epinephrine, and defibrillated; following standard protocol). The patient's EKG progressed to asystole. I assisted in the defibrillation of the patient, wala jud response.

After almost 15 minutes of following advanced cardiac life support maneuvers, still the patient did not recover from asystole. Wala gajud heart beat. The attending physician told us (there were 3 of us medical interns) to cease and to declare TOD (time of death). We asked him if we could try one more defibrillation. Just one more. The attending said to us, "Fine, but remember to follow protocol and alert pathology afterwards".

We defibrillated the patient 1 last time. And can you believe it? The ekg monitor showed a response. We saw a PQRST complex.
P wave = atrial depolarization and contraction, QRS complex = Ventricular depolarization and T wave = repolarization. We called the attending, he rushed back. We stabilized the patient.

Can you imagine. If we had given up on that patient, instead of giving it 1 more try, he would have been a dead man. Ang moral ani: there is never a "sure" thing.

Later that evening, that same patient was sitting and talking to family members. Later that night during post-admissions, i sat next to the patient and talked to him. It was surreal to think that this man (who is living) could have been dead. For some, they attribute his recovery to "advanced cardiac life support", while there are others who might say it was "divine" plan.

For me, i know what i am taught, and implement what i am certified in. But, I do not disregard the presence of Divine Providence in all things. That is my own personal view.




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Re: Fr Suarez, do you believe in him?
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2012, 03:26:28 PM »
meanwhile, one can be assured of some kind of balance...


On January 25, 2008, the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines CBCP public affairs head and Caloocan Bishop Deogracias Iñiguez, Jr. stated that "while they are happy for Suarez, they will remain "watchful" of his healing Masses and activities."

On January 26, 2008, 2 died and 7 were rushed (due to exhaustion) to James Gordon Hospital, Olongapo City while waiting for Fr. Suarez' healing Mass. Juanito Eleazar, 69, died of heart attack amid more than 15,000 patients having lined-up.

At Mexico, Pampanga, 39-year-old colon cancer-stricken Alberto Tapnio died while in wheelchair (and thereafter blessed by Fr. Suarez during a healing Mass). Tapnio was DOA (dead on arrival) at a hospital but was revived by electric shocks. Upon notice of the resurrection, the crowd of 20,000 people started clapping, praying and shouting, but Alberto died 4 hours later.
(wikipedia)


this priest may heal, but who says he has control over life and death?  sometimes, we fall victim to our own expectations.

i believe in this priest.  given the chance, i wish to observe his healing ministry even just once.

While I believe in the dichotomy of physical healing and spiritual healing , there are some unexplainable incidents where both physical and spiritual healing is observed by the faithful.

As I posted in the previous post , patients who actively pray have a better healing time compared to patients who do not. The effects of prayer and spiritual support is an example of independent variable, and the recovery time as the dependent variable. In a recent study , bivariate analysis of the two variables showed a linear relationship that portrayed a significant relationship between faith / prayer and recover time. Standard error estimate, which is what allows one to tell how accurate the prediction is based on linear regression , supports the latter.

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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2012, 03:39:48 PM »


Lindy dear, before anything else, im so happy to see you back! i really missed your posts dear.

Anyhow some of the  herbal medicines are accepted in some areas of Medical practices, they only needs to be studied properly before prescribing it to people, pero i think you meant the SHAMAN'S kanang mga quack doctors? mao na imong gi mean? For me ang mga Shaman are the kindergartens in the medical studies.

Bella,

Dili pod ni sila "kindergardeners". In fact, the drugs we use are based on common herbal medicinal components. The only difference is that medical pharmacology have isolated specific proteins, compounds that elicit specific effects and have compounded it several times fold.

We have to be a bit open minded to patients who show some kind of preference to holistic medicine. In fact, in the United States, we have two different types of Medical Doctors: there are 1) Allopathic Doctors (MDs) and there are 2) Osteopathic Doctors (DOs). There is a philosophical difference between the two in that Allopathic Doctors (MDs) rely primarily on identifying the disease and treating it through medical regimen (pharmacology, surgery). The DOs also utilize classic technichue, however, also implement a holistic style of care (they implement OMM = osteopathic musculative manipulation) as well as are open to other holistic theories.

In the end, we have to respect the autonomy of the patient and can only , as health care clinicians, recommend medical procedures , but the decision to accept and deny medical care is at the discretion of the patient. If he or she wants a classic treatment, then he'll pursue it, but if he or she wants a more holistic pathway, then its also up to him / her.



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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2012, 04:23:06 PM »
We defibrillated the patient 1 last time. And can you believe it? The ekg monitor showed a response. We saw a PQRST complex.
...

Can you imagine. If we had given up on that patient, instead of giving it 1 more try, he would have been a dead man. Ang moral ani: there is never a "sure" thing.

wow!  this is scary.  what a close call!  there must have been the divine hand that guided the decision not to give up.

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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2012, 04:29:30 PM »
In a recent study , bivariate analysis of the two variables showed a linear relationship that portrayed a significant relationship between faith / prayer and recover time. Standard error estimate, which is what allows one to tell how accurate the prediction is based on linear regression , supports the latter.

one more case for believers of both spiritual faith and scientific analysis.  the two don't have to clash, really.

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