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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #200 on: February 20, 2011, 09:24:56 AM »
1 Corinthians chapter 6


15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not!
16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.”
17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.



Hurting one's self, killing one's self is an affront of the Holy Spirit.
Our Bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #201 on: February 20, 2011, 10:37:04 AM »
Sakto kaayo ka Bran nga giplano gyud ni Reyes ni iyang pag hikog kay nakasulat pa siya unya didto gyud niya gipili sa lubong sa iyang mama ang iya pakamatyan unlike sa mga naay postpartum ug ubang mental illness nga wala nay control sa ilang mind. Pareha sa among niece nga she was taking antidepressant unya naghikog gyud nuon ug pareha sa cousin sa akong bana nagpusil pud siya sa iya kaugalingon tungod sa postpartum.

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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #202 on: February 20, 2011, 10:46:40 AM »
But how do we know what happen between the person soul and God before they depart from this life. We still have no way to judge what's going on. Only God know's what happen to Angelo Reyes.
As I have said before nga who know's before siya nawad an ug kinabuhi nakapangayo pa siya ug pasaylo sa Ginoo. Yes tinuod iyang giplano iyang suicide but dili gihapon ta ka judge nga tua na siya sa hell kay ang Ginoo ray nasayod sa tanan.

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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #203 on: February 20, 2011, 04:58:57 PM »
Raqs, I got moody blues after the birth of my kids. Knowing that my body is trying to adjust with new hormones coming in and out as what Lorenzo explained in his medical parlance.
If you are a true believer in God, there is a conflict. You want to end all and at the same time you pray not to succumb to this temptation. I think I was lucky to have had jesuit confessor who have given me spiritual advices when trying times like this happens.
I was devastated a few months ago, learning that a good friend of mine in Davao City with 5 kids, an alcoholic husband who left her for a younger woman and also found out that her 15 year old daughter is pregnant, commited suicide by hanging herself in front of her kids. Traumatized ang mga bata, ang akong pangutana nganong walay nakatambag or nakatabang?

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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #204 on: February 20, 2011, 09:25:17 PM »
Sakto kaayo ka Bran nga giplano gyud ni Reyes ni iyang pag hikog kay nakasulat pa siya unya didto gyud niya gipili sa lubong sa iyang mama ang iya pakamatyan unlike sa mga naay postpartum ug ubang mental illness nga wala nay control sa ilang mind. Pareha sa among niece nga she was taking antidepressant unya naghikog gyud nuon ug pareha sa cousin sa akong bana nagpusil pud siya sa iya kaugalingon tungod sa postpartum.

Raquel,

During my clinical rounds sa hospital, I have seen and treated patients that are suicidal, attempted suicide. I've had a patient who was admitted to the ER because he took all of his father's metformin pills (all 100 or so pills), he was rushed to the ER and our staff intubated him with charcoal. luckily he was stabilized. The patient was young, no more than 20 years. I took his H&P , and even gave him a mental exam. Everything checked out, there was no signs of altered mental status. These are what we call chronic suicidal types. They have a history of suicidal tendencies, and will try multiple times until they do end up killing themselves. Patients like him have complete control. Their frame of mind is there, they know what they are doing, but they are doing / attempting it anyways.

Then we have patients who have paranoid schizophrenia, acute manic depression, anxiety attack with manic psychosis. Patients like these are known to hurt themselves because they have a severely altered mental status. Many of them are unable to differentiate what is real and unreal. Many of them hear voices, see things, experience delusions, fictional persecutory syndromes , which manifests because of their manic psychosis. Many of them end up killing themselves by drowning, shooting themselves, even hanging themselves because of a severely altered mental status. They have no control, they have already lost sense of reality.

As for your cousins. It could have been possible that their post partum blues led to an acute mental status change, and outright manic episode, possibly even brief schizotypal psychosis.

I am very sorry that you had to experience this.



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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #205 on: February 20, 2011, 09:29:31 PM »
Raqs, I got moody blues after the birth of my kids. Knowing that my body is trying to adjust with new hormones coming in and out as what Lorenzo explained in his medical parlance.
If you are a true believer in God, there is a conflict. You want to end all and at the same time you pray not to succumb to this temptation. I think I was lucky to have had jesuit confessor who have given me spiritual advices when trying times like this happens.
I was devastated a few months ago, learning that a good friend of mine in Davao City with 5 kids, an alcoholic husband who left her for a younger woman and also found out that her 15 year old daughter is pregnant, commited suicide by hanging herself in front of her kids. Traumatized ang mga bata, ang akong pangutana nganong walay nakatambag or nakatabang?

Manang Tess,

Please accept my condolences to your friend who recently passed. I do hope that her family , her children, and friends find strength through such difficult moments. May God surround them with His all-encompassing Love and Strength in such difficult times.

 

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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #206 on: February 20, 2011, 09:46:17 PM »
But how do we know what happen between the person soul and God before they depart from this life. We still have no way to judge what's going on. Only God know's what happen to Angelo Reyes.
As I have said before nga who know's before siya nawad an ug kinabuhi nakapangayo pa siya ug pasaylo sa Ginoo. Yes tinuod iyang giplano iyang suicide but dili gihapon ta ka judge nga tua na siya sa hell kay ang Ginoo ray nasayod sa tanan.

Raquel,

We can trust in the Righteousness of God's Judgments and in His all-knowing nature. To Him there is no hiding anything, no sin that is hidden, no feigning innocence. God The Father had already condemned the World after the fall of Man. Through His mercy and Loving nature, he gave us , undeserving children, a chance of possible salvation. Through no merit of our own, but through His Mercy, He sent His Only son, Jesus Christ Lord, into the world. So that those who choose Him, and believeth in Jesus Christ will not see death but see Life.

Sometimes, there are actions, that are the antithesis of God's Love and Mercy.

God Bless all of us. So that we may be strong in this life and worthy of the Promises of Christ in the world to come.
We all must fight. Fight the Good Fight and not despair when life throws us challenges and difficulties.

There is a verse from Acts Chapter 14, Verse 22 that I would like to share with you:
Strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. "We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God," they said.

As well as from Philippians Chapter 1 Verse 29:
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for Him.

The point that I'm trying to make here, my dearest, is that to suffer and experience hardships in life, as cruel as may be, is a blessing. As they say, Gold is only purified in fire. So too is our faith. Faith is purified, tested, and strengthened only through difficulty. They are not meant to crush us to the point of despair and our surrender in life. No, it is meant to give us a spirit of strength, and a powerful faith in Jesus Christ's presence , unmovable presence in our lives. We , as Christians, are to fight the good fight. And to never surrender.

Remember our patriarch, Peter, Christ's 1st apostle and 1st Pope of the Church. He never stopped doing what he had to do, even when all was dim. He was arrested and condemned to death in Rome for the crime of preaching Christ's Good News to the Romans. Did you know what he did while the Romans were crucifying him? Aside from suffering, he was nailed to the cross, but he was also Preaching. He did not stop preaching to the Romans, even as the guards were crucifying him upside down, he was preaching to them. Telling them to repent of their sins. Until the last drop of blood and his last breath was taken from his old, beaten down body, until his spirit was called back to The Lord.

His life is an example of Fighting The Good Fight. Not giving up. We suffer here in Earth for Christ, so that we may be worthy of His Promises in Heaven.

So suffering should be accepted. Not evaded.

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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #207 on: February 20, 2011, 10:58:41 PM »
The best example of that was when the jews were to condemn and stone Mary Magdelene for her crimes of adultery. Christ reminded them that none of them were born without sin.

obviously, christ did not consign mary magdalene to hell.  as we believe in divine mercy, so must we not consign angelo reyes to hell.

However, in the case of Reyes, the reiteration of Revelations and the verse from John is important. My emphasis is the reiteration of said verses, not condemnation. One can only pray for the mercy of God's judgement. But His judgment is impeccable and just.

it looks like you have changed your mind along with a change of heart, after this:  Suicide is an unpardonable Sin. His soul is now burning in eternal fires of hell. (lorenzo's judgment)

yes, his judgment is impeccable and just, thank you.

Revelation is literal. The verse from Revelation tells us whom GOD will not allow to enter into His Kingdom.

what the...!@#?  heavens, don't you dare expect the four horsemen of the apocalypse astride arabian horses to stop at your front yard and come knocking at your door.

 

The other, an unrepentant murderer. The latter did not join the Lord into Paradise.

Judas Iscariot, hung himself. His was a suicide. Guilt.

suddenly, one is a murderer when they were supposed to be two thieves?  i hope though that you are not sure that he and judas are in hell.


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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #208 on: February 20, 2011, 11:07:25 PM »
It was only recently that the Catholic Church implemented ammendments on suicides. But before these ammendments, Pre-Vatican II thought was constant in the teaching that suicides were destined to perdition.

so here it is.  ergo, one just can't choose between vatican I and vatican II just so one can insist in making right a careless slip one had made.  besides, we have to be aware of aggiornamento.



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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #209 on: February 20, 2011, 11:15:51 PM »
All we need is for you to admit that Fr. Chic is right and you are wrong. Just that simple. Can't you do that?

it seems to me like he has, by quoting biblical passages, like casting pearls to swine. ;D



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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #210 on: February 20, 2011, 11:23:54 PM »
To all whom I may have indirectly offended, or hurt in this thread, please know that it was not deliberate, nor intentional. But meant to state a point on accountability.

Please know there are no hard feelings. We are all exchanging ideas and thoughts. Despite the differences (just keep it civil lang sometimes, not under the belt punching. lol)  :P

Love You All,
Bran Lorenz.

in any case, i admire your energy and grace under pressure (you're unsinkable!), if not your ideas.





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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #211 on: February 20, 2011, 11:32:26 PM »
A lot of times, Nong. Kinsa man dili ma sayop? Tsk.

There are plenty of times here that i recognize my correction.

Ang issue ani, is that one should not pick on people , or poking fun of people.

Basing on one's supposed 'intellectual' pretension, should not be the reason for poking on one's traits.

Dili baja na maayo, Nong.

Ikaw man tigulang, you are supposed to know this and apply it, more than myself, who am much your junior in age.


there, there.  tigulang na diay ka bai hubs?  tigulang na ba pod si imong igzu nga si bugsay?  well, then, maybe the supposed junior in age is simply acting his age, like insisting on some stand on delicate matters that may need a lifetime to ponder on, such as who goes to hell and who doesn't? ;D





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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #212 on: February 20, 2011, 11:35:41 PM »
Ssssh. Pasanginlan na sad ko ay. I don't claim to be somebody (maybe a some "body" for I never stop to expand) nor a nobody. I'm ChicogoN. No more, no less. Who started this Fr. Chic?  :P

an inspired choice, chosen hands down.  lisod kun fr cogon or fr cogs.  never gyod kong mogamit sa latter in case.  nose-related ra kaayo. ;D



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Re: Do you think late Angelo Reyes died honorably?
« Reply #213 on: February 21, 2011, 12:12:51 AM »
this is just one of those dispassionate articles written by one person who may have his own biases.  i personally never take hook, line and sinker anything i read.  it always helps to cross-reference otherwise, one person's bias could rub off on me.

It is just lately when Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago regarded the AFP's retired Secretary General Angelo Reyes as "a dead man walking", because of his involvement in the recently unveiled corruption in AFP funds. Today, people are staggered upon hearing the news telling that Angelo Reyes is dead. He is dead not because he was killed but rather he committed suicide.

she also called him "one-celled amoeba".  she's been brashly calling different government functionaries different names, like "fungus-faced" and "idiots".  what have these got to do with investigations in aid of legislation?  i can imagine that if this senator (happily, already in her third and last term), in the unlikely event that she gets to set her rifle sights on you, will happily call you a "rabies virus" or something.  such name-calling used to entertain.  it didn't anymore these last few years.  her unkind style has become "dead meat".   

by the way, senator santiago's own son, her youngest, committed suicide in 2003. 

When Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago said the Reyes is a "dead man walking", for sure the secretary did not think of the general's actual death. It is just a metaphor that somehow portrays the current and future life Reyes has and is supposed to face. And somehow, Santiago's words coincide on the latest suicidal act of General Reyes. Perhaps, Reyes thought that there is no way for him to escape from being punished. But that is, if he really thought he is guilty as charged.

it was just a senate investigation.  whether he was guilty or not was up to the courts after charges have been filed by whoever.  why was he already treated as if he was guilty in a senate hearing that was only meant to aid legislation?  and we're supposed to be a nation of laws...



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« Reply #214 on: February 21, 2011, 12:16:46 AM »
Manang Tess,

Please accept my condolences to your friend who recently passed. I do hope that her family , her children, and friends find strength through such difficult moments. May God surround them with His all-encompassing Love and Strength in such difficult times.
 

i hope you're not thinking that hofelina's tragic friend is now roasting in the eternal flames of hell?



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« Reply #215 on: February 21, 2011, 12:29:04 AM »
But how do we know what happen between the person soul and God before they depart from this life. We still have no way to judge what's going on. Only God know's what happen to Angelo Reyes.
As I have said before nga who know's before siya nawad an ug kinabuhi nakapangayo pa siya ug pasaylo sa Ginoo. Yes tinuod iyang giplano iyang suicide but dili gihapon ta ka judge nga tua na siya sa hell kay ang Ginoo ray nasayod sa tanan.

amen.  and i don't need to quote the bible to believe in this.

 

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« Reply #216 on: February 21, 2011, 01:05:30 AM »
11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

16 Do you not know that you  are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.


18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,” 20 and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” 21 So let no one boast in men. For all things are yours, 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23 and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.

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« Reply #217 on: February 21, 2011, 01:09:45 AM »
He he, I feel so foolish, and then some.  ;D

Hmm. Here are some foolish words to go by:

Last words are for fools who haven't said enough. --Karl Marx




I will take this. Yes, I am not wise in worldly wisdom. I am not as wise as you, Nong. But that is fine. But i trust in this saying.

I thought you should read it. :)



"18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,” 20 and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” 21 So let no one boast in men. For all things are yours, 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23 and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's."

1 Corinthians 3: 18-23

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« Reply #218 on: February 21, 2011, 01:13:31 AM »

11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

16 Do you not know that you  are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.


18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,” 20 and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” 21 So let no one boast in men. For all things are yours, 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23 and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.

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« Reply #219 on: February 21, 2011, 03:28:44 AM »
in any case, i admire your energy and grace under pressure (you're unsinkable!), if not your ideas.





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« Reply #220 on: February 21, 2011, 03:38:48 AM »
obviously, christ did not consign mary magdalene to hell.  as we believe in divine mercy, so must we not consign angelo reyes to hell.

it looks like you have changed your mind along with a change of heart, after this:  Suicide is an unpardonable Sin. His soul is now burning in eternal fires of hell. (lorenzo's judgment)

yes, his judgment is impeccable and just, thank you.

what the...!@#?  heavens, don't you dare expect the four horsemen of the apocalypse astride arabian horses to stop at your front yard and come knocking at your door.

  




1. Mary of Magdalene ran to Jesus, and followed her Lord and Savior. Served Him and believed in Him. Salvation on High. Whatever sin she had before died with her old self. She was born new, in spirit and in faith with Christ. She is a model Christian. Saved through faith and through observance of holiness. Did Magdalene return back to her sins after her salvation?

2. Please read 1 Corinthians Chapter 3, and Revelations as well as the same passage from 1st John.

3. Revelations is a prophecy of the Apocalypse by St. John of the Divine. It is the foretelling of the things to come. Do you not know that Christ will soon come again to judge the living and the dead? Do you know that when He comes in Glory again for the 2nd time, His judgment will be final.
As was prophesied, so shall it be...

Why do you think there are frequent occurrences of Our Mother Mary in the world telling and reminding us all to repent of our sins and to not despair but to ask for forgiveness from her Son? Time is coming soon..




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« Reply #221 on: February 21, 2011, 03:47:33 AM »
 

it was just a senate investigation.  whether he was guilty or not was up to the courts after charges have been filed by whoever.  why was he already treated as if he was guilty in a senate hearing that was only meant to aid legislation?  and we're supposed to be a nation of laws...



A very good question. If the man was innocent, would he have reacted in such a way such as suicide? Ikaw, Isles, if you were charged with tax evasion and were called to the Philippine Tax Court, I'm sure you would hire a good defense attorney, present your case, and point out every single economic activity and taxes paid so as to clear your name in the court of Law.

Hypothetically speaking, if you were charged with tax evasion, and were really innocent. Would it be practical, proper to jump of a cliff to your death?

I think not.

Ponder on it, my dear.

Only a guilty conscience would drive one to find such an end a 'way out'. Luoy pood.

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« Reply #222 on: February 21, 2011, 05:37:31 AM »
amen.  and i don't need to quote the bible to believe in this.

Daghan na unya mong brilliant Biblical scholar...  :P

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« Reply #223 on: February 21, 2011, 05:42:35 AM »
I will take this. Yes, I am not wise in worldly wisdom. I am not as wise as you, Nong. But that is fine. But i trust in this saying.


It's not about wisdom or whatever. It is about you not admitting you're wrong. Unya quote-quote dayon kag voluminous verses to hide the fact nga nasayop ka. You always want to show that you're better. With all your "scholarly" quotations and references and pompous declarations of faith, you appear to even want to sound better than Fr. Chic when it comes to understanding of the Catholic faith. Can anyone be more presumptuous than that?

 :P

 

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« Reply #224 on: February 21, 2011, 05:46:06 AM »
I will take this. Yes, I am not wise in worldly wisdom. I am not as wise as you, Nong. But that is fine. But i trust in this saying.

Take this post. Moingon ka nga dili ka wise, pero with the underscored caveat nga dili ka wise sa "worldly wisdom", implying that you're wise in "spiritual wisdom". Estoryaheeeee!

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« Reply #225 on: February 21, 2011, 07:28:41 AM »
Of course. Wise in Christ. :)

That I'm very sure, bro!



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« Reply #226 on: February 21, 2011, 07:32:49 AM »
It's not about wisdom or whatever. It is about you not admitting you're wrong. Unya quote-quote dayon kag voluminous verses to hide the fact nga nasayop ka. You always want to show that you're better. With all your "scholarly" quotations and references and pompous declarations of faith, you appear to even want to sound better than Fr. Chic when it comes to understanding of the Catholic faith. Can anyone be more presumptuous than that?

 :P

 

Sound better than a priest in catholic dogma? How presumptuous of you, my dear sage. Never did I think like that, but sharing some truths as explained in biblical passages. An exchange of ideas does not necessarily mean one is presumptuous. Not everything is negative, dear worldly sage.

;)

ps. i thought it was cute how you said 'estoryaheeee'. something that my titas say in valencia.  ;D


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« Reply #227 on: February 21, 2011, 07:53:08 AM »
Through God's Grace, everything is through His Good Graces....


makes me wonder what kind of grace he has slapped you with. ;D

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The grace of patience and to be able to take a beating. ;)

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« Reply #229 on: February 21, 2011, 08:05:57 AM »
Of course. Wise in Christ. :)

That I'm very sure, bro!

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« Reply #230 on: February 21, 2011, 08:11:55 AM »
1. Mary of Magdalene ran to Jesus, and followed her Lord and Savior. Served Him and believed in Him. Salvation on High. Whatever sin she had before died with her old self. She was born new, in spirit and in faith with Christ. She is a model Christian. Saved through faith and through observance of holiness. Did Magdalene return back to her sins after her salvation?


i don't know whether she did or not.  if i have to be literal about the bible, well, the bible does not devote much space to mary magdalene's biography.  what i know is that she was forgiven.  period.

2. Please read 1 Corinthians Chapter 3, and Revelations as well as the same passage from 1st John.

now, now, it is as if you alone have read this.  let me let you in on a little secret:  i've read this while i was still a three-month-old fetus in my mother's womb. ;D

3. Revelations is a prophecy of the Apocalypse by St. John of the Divine. It is the foretelling of the things to come. Do you not know that Christ will soon come again to judge the living and the dead? Do you know that when He comes in Glory again for the 2nd time, His judgment will be final.
As was prophesied, so shall it be...


so shall it be.  and when the time comes, "...her prophets have daubed for them with whitewash, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, 'Thus says the Lord God,' when The Lord has not spoken." (Ezekiel 22:28 RSV)

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." (Matthew 24:24 RSV)

as you advised me to read (thanks!), i advise to try your best to avoid being a false prophet.

Why do you think there are frequent occurrences of Our Mother Mary in the world telling and reminding us all to repent of our sins and to not despair but to ask for forgiveness from her Son? Time is coming soon..[/i]

and where in the bible is this?  you have no quotation?  hehe.



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« Reply #231 on: February 21, 2011, 08:20:47 AM »
Sound better than a priest in catholic dogma? How presumptuous of you, my dear sage. Never did I think like that, but sharing some truths as explained in biblical passages. An exchange of ideas does not necessarily mean one is presumptuous. Not everything is negative, dear worldly sage.


So you don't know that you sound arrogant? Perhaps this little introduction into some basic writing principles will lead you into a more careful "sharing", and hopefully into a more realistic view of yourself:



Understanding Voice and Tone in Writing
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/understanding-voice-and-tone-in-writing.aspx


What Is a Writing Voice?

Voice is the distinct personality, style, or point of view of a piece of writing or any other creative work. Voice is what Simon Cowell is talking about when he tells "American Idol" contestants to make a song their own and not just do a note-for-note karaoke version. Many musicians have played "The Star-Spangled Banner," for instance, but there's a world of difference between the Boston Pops' performance and Jimi Hendrix's, even though the basic melody is the same.

In writing, the New York Times and the New York Post may cover the same story, but their headlines are likely to be quite different. For example, when Ike Turner died, the New York Times had a straightforward headline: "Ike Turner, Musician and Songwriter in Duo With Tina Turner, Dies at 76"; whereas the New York Post went for a bad pun: "Ike 'Beats' Tina to Death."

Why Voice Matters

Voice is important because your writing should have as much personality as you do. You've read things that seem to have been written by committee, and it's not a fun experience. A strong voice helps you make every word count, establishes consistency across your website or body of work, and most importantly helps you grab your readers' attention and establish a relationship with them. You probably have a short list of writers you'll read no matter what their subject, because you like their style so much, and other writers you can't stand because they sound snarky or condescending or otherwise unappealing to you.

Finding Your Voice

So how do you discover and develop your voice? Start by thinking about these three things:

What you want to communicate about yourself or, if you're writing for a business, about the company's brand. If you asked your readers to describe your copy with a few adjectives, which words would you want them to choose?

The purpose of what you're writing. Should your voice be different for an obituary than for a movie review? Do you want to inform, entertain, or motivate readers to take action?

Your target audience. Are you writing for kids, professional investors, soccer fans from around the world?

As you think about each of those factors, scribble down adjectives that might apply to your voice. If you get stuck, consider some qualities that you don't want to convey, like "long-winded" or "snooze worthy" or "arrogant." Consider your peers and competitors, too: How will your voice be distinct from theirs?
When you have a substantial list, start to prune. Delete any descriptors that seem secondary in importance, and see if you can make any words more specific. Many writers might describe their voices as conversational, for example, but there's a big difference between conversational on a celebrity gossip site and conversational on a bank site. Boil your list down to four or five essential descriptors.

How Do You Translate Voice into Words?

The next step is to translate those voice characteristics into writing mechanics. Voice may affect your word choice, sentence and story structure, even your punctuation. For example, if you're writing about fashion for tween girls, and you want your voice to be fun, trendy, upbeat, and accessible, then you might want to keep your vocabulary at an eighth-grade level but allow slang and even some made-up words for freshness; you might want to set an attention-span-appropriate word count; and punctuation marks that some people consider too casual, such as exclamation points and ellipses, are probably OK in moderation. Create some writing do's and don'ts specific to your voice.

There are a few elements to be careful with: jargon, culture-specific references, and humor. If you're speaking to a highly specific readership, like tech fans or grammar geeks, then it may be not only necessary but expected that you'll use insider terminology like "cloud computing" or "nonrestrictive clause." But generally speaking, the more diverse your audience, the more you should strive for clarity and simplicity and avoid slang, humor that might be misconstrued, and culture-specific references. For instance, baseball-derived slang like "bush league" and "batting average" may be Greek to anyone not from the U.S.

What's the Difference Between Tone and Voice?

One more thing: Some of you may be wondering what the difference is between voice and tone. You could consider tone a subset of voice. If voice is the personality of a story, then tone is the mood. Although lots of writers could describe their voice as funny, the mood of their individual pieces might be dark or biting or silly or sarcastic.

Summary

A strong, well-defined voice is the bridge between you and your audience: It helps your readers understand who you are, and it helps you engage them and keep them coming back for more. Take 20 minutes to define your voice, and you'll never sound like bad karaoke or committee writing.



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« Reply #232 on: February 21, 2011, 08:32:58 AM »
i don't know whether she did or not.  if i have to be literal about the bible, well, the bible does not devote much space to mary magdalene's biography.  what i know is that she was forgiven.  period.

now, now, it is as if you alone have read this.  let me let you in on a little secret:  i've read this while i was still a three-month-old fetus in my mother's womb. ;D

so shall it be.  and when the time comes, "...her prophets have daubed for them with whitewash, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, 'Thus says the Lord God,' when The Lord has not spoken." (Ezekiel 22:28 RSV)

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." (Matthew 24:24 RSV)

as you advised me to read (thanks!), i advise to try your best to avoid being a false prophet.

and where in the bible is this?  you have no quotation?  hehe.



Indeed the Bible tells us to beware of false prophets. However, my dear, I am not claiming to be a prophet, less alone claim to have interaction and speak with the Divine or know the future.

What is a prophet?

In Christianity a prophet (or seer[37]) is one inspired by God through the Holy Spirit to deliver a message for a specific purpose. It is often associated with predicting future events, but in biblical terms it is wider and can include those given the power to preach repentance to those who do not want to hear the message and to warn of God's wrath for disobedience. God's calling as a prophet is not considered to elevate an individual for their glory, but for the glory of God and to turn people to him. Some Christian denominations would limit that and exclude those who receive a personal message not intended for the body of believers, but in the Bible on a number of occasions prophets were called to deliver personal messages.[38] The reception of a message is termed revelation and the delivery of the message is termed prophecy.

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Please know the difference between prophets and biblical passage sharing.

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« Reply #233 on: February 21, 2011, 08:34:16 AM »


now, now, it is as if you alone have read this.  let me let you in on a little secret:  i've read this while i was still a three-month-old fetus in my mother's womb. ;D




Ah, truly, with jest as always.  ::)

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« Reply #234 on: February 21, 2011, 08:37:00 AM »

So you don't know that you sound arrogant? Perhaps this little introduction into some basic writing principles will lead you into a more careful "sharing", and hopefully into a more realistic view of yourself:




Nope. I guess only to you who takes it seriously , let alone take my writings as if im trying to put anyone down.

Let me tell you something, dear sage, has it ever occurred to your lovely little head that you happen to sound a bit arrogant, pretentious in how you deliberate your responses to people. Or , dare I count the many times you jest on people's abilities? It's a matter of the kettle calling the pot black.

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« Reply #235 on: February 21, 2011, 08:37:19 AM »
The grace of patience and to be able to take a beating. ;)

If you see how attendings treat medical interns. You'll know what I'm talking about.


you have my sympathy.  i understand sleep deprivation is one of the most common complaints of medical interns on top of at the bottom of the pecking order.  i hope that your posts aren't products of such terrible toll on your road to a medical profession.

"  ...Walker described the heightened emotional response in the weary as "profound," noting, "We've never seen a magnitude of increase between two groups that big in any of our studies before."

The team also checked the fMRI readings to determine whether any other brain regions had a similar pattern of activity, which would indicate that the brain networks were communicating with one another. In normal participants, the amygdala seemed to be talking to the medial prefrontal cortex, an outer layer of the brain that, Walker says, helps to contextualize experiences and emotions. But, in the sleep-deprived brain, the amygdala seemed to be "rewired," coupling instead with a brain stem area called the locus coeruleus, which secretes norepinephrine, a precursor of the hormone adrenaline that triggers fight-or-flight type reactions.

"Medial prefrontal cortex is the policeman of the emotional brain," Walker says. "It makes us more rational. That top-down, inhibitory connection is severed in the condition of sleep deprivation. … The amygdala seems to be able to run amok." People in this state seem to experience a pendulum of emotions, going from upset and annoyed to giddy in moments, he says.

"There seems to be a causal relationship between impaired sleep and some of the psychiatric symptomatology and disorders that we're seeing," says Robert Stickgold, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School who was not involved in this study. He cites research linking sleep apnea, in which breathing is disrupted, to attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and the evidence of a connection between depression and insomnia as examples. "It might be that those medial frontal regions tell the rest of the brain, 'You can chill,'" he says. "Those circuits become exhausted or altered after a lack of sleep."    "            

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« Reply #236 on: February 21, 2011, 08:38:16 AM »
ps. i thought it was cute how you said 'estoryaheeee'. something that my titas say in valencia.  ;D

Indeed. It was meant for your delicate ears...  :-X

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« Reply #237 on: February 21, 2011, 08:39:40 AM »
Indeed. It was meant for your delicate ears...  :-X
pwera bujag!


I'm sure if you said it , it would have been in the same valencianhon-dimianon accent the women have when they say 'estoryaheee'

much thanks for your consideration of my delicate hears. im sure you should worry about your own ears before mine.

but thanks tho.

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« Reply #238 on: February 21, 2011, 08:41:30 AM »
and where in the bible is this?  you have no quotation?  hehe.

Hmm. Maybe a case of self-quotation?  ::)


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« Reply #239 on: February 21, 2011, 08:42:44 AM »
you have my sympathy.  i understand sleep deprivation is one of the most common complaints of medical interns on top of at the bottom of the pecking order.  i hope that your posts aren't products of such terrible toll on your road to a medical profession.

"  ...Walker described the heightened emotional response in the weary as "profound," noting, "We've never seen a magnitude of increase between two groups that big in any of our studies before."

The team also checked the fMRI readings to determine whether any other brain regions had a similar pattern of activity, which would indicate that the brain networks were communicating with one another. In normal participants, the amygdala seemed to be talking to the medial prefrontal cortex, an outer layer of the brain that, Walker says, helps to contextualize experiences and emotions. But, in the sleep-deprived brain, the amygdala seemed to be "rewired," coupling instead with a brain stem area called the locus coeruleus, which secretes norepinephrine, a precursor of the hormone adrenaline that triggers fight-or-flight type reactions.

"Medial prefrontal cortex is the policeman of the emotional brain," Walker says. "It makes us more rational. That top-down, inhibitory connection is severed in the condition of sleep deprivation. … The amygdala seems to be able to run amok." People in this state seem to experience a pendulum of emotions, going from upset and annoyed to giddy in moments, he says.

"There seems to be a causal relationship between impaired sleep and some of the psychiatric symptomatology and disorders that we're seeing," says Robert Stickgold, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School who was not involved in this study. He cites research linking sleep apnea, in which breathing is disrupted, to attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and the evidence of a connection between depression and insomnia as examples. "It might be that those medial frontal regions tell the rest of the brain, 'You can chill,'" he says. "Those circuits become exhausted or altered after a lack of sleep."    "             

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-a-lack-of-sleep-cause

sleep deprivation, not so much. treatment of some of the arrogant physicians , more so. there are 5 of us in our group, so in cases were we are on call for 12-18 hours, we rotate on sleep. there is never a time that all of us interns are up at the same time. 2-3 are sleeping when 2-3 are up doing rounds.

in the medical field, as in any profession, one has to have a system going.

trust me tho, there was a time when i was up doing a full day round. meaning i was up for 36 hours. no sleep what so ever. then expecting to present on diabetes mellitus to my attending. whoa. can i say coffee-fied?

lol. ;)



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