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« on: August 28, 2010, 07:52:59 PM »
Tinood kaha ni?http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1176598710413#

Linkback: https://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/index.php?topic=31585.0

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 04:33:43 AM »
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1176598710413#[/url]

HOAX: China Eating Babies? NOT...

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It's all faked, please read and understand the reason (aside from the sensationalism) why this hoax seems to never die. I've reprinted my response from the other thread because it was buried and no one really saw it. Not that "my" response is overly important; just that the issue of the hoax is. I took the step of starting a new thread so that it stands a better chance of finally laying this issue to rest:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.htm

Snopes is a hoax buster's page. Whenever you read or see something outrageous on the net; check there first. I've found that 99.9% of the time, it's just BS.

Here's another page:

http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/se...g_fetuses.html

...that discusses political reasons for the hoax. The summary I've included here:

Summary
There are too many doubts cast on the Chinese fetus eating story for any thinking person to accept it as true. There is the lack of an original verifiable source. The tabloid in which the story first appeared is now defunct, and no other verifiable sources are provided. There is the lack of physical evidence, for instance, a copy of the menu on which the supposed fetus dish appears. There is the testimony of Judie Brown, of the American Life League, stating that the clinics mentioned in Bruce Gilley's article do not exist. And there is the complete lack of followup on a topic that warrants it.

Are Bruce Gilley, Mindy Belz, and Representatives Wolf, Smith, Ros-Lehtinen, and Souder so unconcerned with their own credibility that they will repeat any story they hear as long as it furthers their own political agendas, or careers? The vicious practice of blood libel goes back thousands of years. And the commandment against bearing false witness against your neighbor goes back even further. Bruce Gilley, Mindy Belz, and Representatives Wolf, Smith, Ros-Lehtinen, and Souder need to be held accountable for the racist slander and libel that they've perpetuated against the Chinese. Nothing is more pornographic than lies engineered for racist ends, or to further careers and/or ideologies. But for some Christian "pro-lifers," and one publicity hungry journalist, the hope continues that we'll swallow anything.

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05.01 - Several readers have brought to my attention photographs of an Asian man holding a dish which appears to be a fetus. The photographs were first sent, anonymously, to rotten.com, a shock web site famous for dealing in disturbing photographs. These were later picked up by Hal Turner, a radio talk show host whose efforts veer toward alarming his right-wing audience.

06.01 - According the Taipai Times the photographs referenced in the preceeding paragraph were created by Shanghai-based performance artist Zhu Yu, in a piece entitled "Man-eater." Zhu stole the fetuses from a medical school and claimed to eat them for "art's sake." His work centers around issues of life, death and eternal life. See also How to Deal with Rights - A Criticism of the Violent Trend in Chinese Contemporary Art, by Wang Nanming. A Malaysian tabloid had published the photos and a story alleging that a Taiwan restaurant was serving human fetus. The government of Taiwan demanded a retraction and the tabloid, Perdana, complied adding an apology.

More here too:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar.../aa080601a.htm

...who writes:

"...The artist himself, ...has claimed in interviews that he used real aborted fetuses stolen from a medical school to create "Eating People" and that he actually cooked and ate them "for art's sake." Should we take him at his word? ...that avant-garde artists will do anything to shock the public, so we have to acknowledge the possibility that Zhu Yu is telling the truth ...On the other hand, works of "performance art" are often strictly that — performances — and it has been argued that Zhu could have easily constructed his "fetuses" out of doll parts and animal carcasses, pretended to consume them in front of the cameras and made tongue-in-cheek statements to the press to convince everyone the exhibition was real. That's a theory I'm inclined to agree with, because, frankly, if Zhu were telling the truth he'd probably be serving jail time. There's no reason to suppose China is any more tolerant of cannibalism than the rest of the world..."

And finally, an example of a religious website using these rumors for political purposes:

http://www.trosch.org/lif/baby-eat.html

Ralph


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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 04:37:00 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 06:59:20 AM »
Thanks for the explanations Ching ,very informative..

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 03:15:30 AM »

walay sapayan, hinaot nga ang uban labina sa facebook nga makabasa ani. this has been going already for so long.


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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 04:14:51 AM »
bitaw, dili man ni tinuod. dugay na kaayo ning nagcirculate sa web.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 12:09:43 AM »
Basin naay ganahan motan-aw sa sine nga "Dumplings" (directed by Fruit Chan, HK, 2004).  :P
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