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Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« on: September 09, 2012, 10:19:36 PM »
kahibawo na man gyod tag mga estorya bahin aning illegal recruiters, ambot nganong daghan lang gihapon ang biktima.

today, i learned of a new victim of illegal recruitment.  she is the fifth victim i know in the last two years who's close to me.  close, because these victims that i personally know are either close friends or relatives. 

three of them had asked for my opinion first, no one listened.  i realized why.

illegal recruiters play to one's dreams.  they're sweet and convincing talkers, should they switch careers from illegal recruitment to real estate, they can sell a subdivision lot on the moon. 

because one wants so much the idea of a job abroad, one will believe anything.  my contrary opinion was almost always brushed aside.  in not so many words, my friends and relatives who became victims implied that they knew better and my opinion was just an opinion of someone who's not interested.
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 11:43:45 PM »
Kapit sa patalim na sa karamihan.

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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 12:10:04 AM »
what i find disgusting is how educated people fall prey.  magdamgo na man lang, gamiton na lang unta ang utok.

rule no. 1.  do not trust the internet.  kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan?

every tom, dick and harry, including every tammy, ditas and harriet, can put up any money-making gimmick on the internet.  some are legal, some are not.  one must learn to research, check and countercheck.

in the case of job recruiters, one can always countercheck with the Philippine Overseas Employment Administration (POEA) of the Department of Labor and Employment (DOLE) if their agencies are duly accredited.  this accreditation is at the frontline of the potential worker's protection.
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 12:18:03 AM »
a neighbor in cebu saved herself from the brink of a disastrous illegal recruitment courtesy of the internet.  she asked me about it.  as usual, i expressed my cynicism. 

klaroha na lang na ngadto sa POEA, was my advice.  she did, and was told in no uncertain terms that the agency she's talking about is not on their list.  saved in time, i must say.  naa na ra ba untay mga silingan nga motabang niya ug raise sa initial needed amount of 24k pesos. 
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 12:26:59 AM »
rule no. 2.  never part with money for which you won't get an official receipt.  sending money through the bank to a certain someone you haven't personally met?  just say bye-bye, tooth decay. 

these victims that i personally know have done that.  sadly, they never got their money back.  a rundown in pesos:

victim 1:  100,000 plus
victim 2:      2,000
victim 3:  400,000 plus
victim 4:  -none-
victim 5:  1.3 million (!)
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 01:01:23 AM »
these are their stories:

victim 1

she's a newly minted nurse based in manila.  there's an offer for her to take further studies in london after which she can be employed there.  her mom, newly retired and enjoying her new life in cebu tending to their farm, gave her access to the family's bank account. 

thus began the financial "bleeding".  every time she paid a certain required amount for processing, a new "problem" always cropped up.  after payments of more than 100,000 pesos, the mom began having her doubts and came to manila.  she even talked personally with the recruiter, in an office complete with all the trappings.

my advice: stop paying.  just stop throwing good money after bad.  one just doesn't get to study abroad this way. 

how did they ever think that this was real to begin with?  a friend told them that it is so.  where's that friend?  for some other reason, they've quarreled and they haven't been in touch ever since.  which brings us to:

rule no. 3.  never trust a friend when it comes to parting with a substantial amount of money for which you won't get any official receipt.  chances are this friend will turn out not to be a friend at all.  he won't even be around to become your enemy.   
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 01:30:44 AM »
victim 2

he's a young, single, intelligent guy undergoing a crisis in his current job.  he called me about this possibility of employment in ireland that promises that after 2 years he can petition for his mom and siblings.  he phoned me about it.  it's too good to be true, i said. 

rule no. 4. never forget the adage---if it's too good to be true, it usually is.

what's more, the job description that they're offering you is too incongruous with your course.  i was assured that i'm qualified because it's just a clerical job, he answered.  then check the legality of that agency with our embassy there.  he did, and was answered that no such agency exists. 

still he had second thoughts.  embassies, like government agencies that we can hardly trust, can commit mistakes.  if this chance will pass him by, it may not come again.  his current job was already hell anyway.

luckily, the first payment required for processing was only 2,000 pesos.  when he was answered that there was a hitch in the processing and that more payment was needed, he was convinced that the rat he was beginning to smell was really a rat.

he called me again to say that it was so and that the amount he had wasted wasn't much to charge to experience, much to my relief.  he learned some more.  that illegal job placement agency was based in india.
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 03:07:30 AM »
victim 3

this made me blow my top.  tanan balikas nanggawas sa akong baba.  di maantos ang kagago, gikan sa amahan ngadto sa anak. 

is there a worse idiot than someone who surrenders her atm card to a stranger who, in turn, uses the card to continually withdraw the needed amount for the so-called processing?  the withdrawals have reached more than 400 thousand by the time i was told about it through a phone call.

money was supplied by her father, a seaman who was getting impatient with his jobless married daughter.  he thought that this series of last financial support could spell his daughter's success once and for all, a daughter who married before she finished her nursing course and who eventually finished anyway but was unlucky enough never to pass the board despite more than one try. 

the promised manna?  further nursing studies in ireland (ugh, ireland again, vrglguaps), where she can work part time at the same time, and she could take with her her whole family. 

did you meet this woman who promised you this?  no.  she's based in manila.  she said that she won't even get a cent from this herself.  (what?  are they dealing with mother teresa?)

how long had this been going on?  almost a year.  (oh-oh.  they're paying someone's monthly salary for nothing.)

how did you ever get into this?  she sent us pertinent papers from the school. (???)
 
close the bank account, you idiots!  i shouted at the top of my voice.

attending school may make one literate.  it does not assure that one gets educated.  being educated is knowing when and how to be ashamed.  it is for those who take social responsibility seriously.  it is for persons for whom fairness and kindness is a way of life, blah-blah-blah.  chances are, the educated person is bound to know the difference between a trick and a treat and will never unknowingly give a treat in exchange for a trick.

guess who is uneducated in this instance.  it seems to me that everyone is.
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 03:13:49 AM »
(these vignettes of illegal recruitment will be continued tomorrow.  i'm already sleepy.)  8)
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2012, 10:57:38 AM »
victim 4

i met this wonderful woman abroad.  we had come back home the same year.  as if it wasn't enough, we turned out to be neighbors, living in different units in the same building.  so we get to see each other any time we want to.

she wants to go abroad to work again as she had done for the last 10 years or so.  she's young, married and childless.  oh, she's a chemist but had undergone professional training in physical therapy.  they call her place of work a spa. 

now, through a friend, she's had a webcam chat with an englishman in london who's in a hurry to have a nanny for his young boys.  he had even showed his kids to her on webcam.  the terms: she spends for the visa processing and flight ticket, half of which will be reimbursed when she arrived.

why would he spend for someone he hasn't met when there are many pinays already in england who would take the job anytime?  i asked.  he prefers someone who comes directly from the philippines, she answered.  (for whatever reason, she didn't say.)

but visas are processed right here in manila that's why they have an embassy, i said.  she answered that the processing is faster there and he's in a hurry.

if that were so, he can always spend for your visa processing first and you can pay your 50% share once you get there, i said.  or at least, you can call the british embassy here to ask how much is a visa fee... but there's no convincing her to cast doubts on this, i thought.

she comes back to see me a few days after.  it's a fake, she said.  she was about to send money for her supposed visa when she thought of counterchecking the bank account number.  it turned out to be an account in cavite.

she stopped right there and then.  those con men still bothered to follow her up with more sweet talk via the internet.  she'd have none of it.

then the unsolicited advice followed, unfortunately from me...

go abroad only when your husband can go with you.  it's time to keep your domestic life intact.  what more do you want?  you now have a condominium of your own, some savings, etc.  settle down with what really matters.  she did.  and we have remained great friends.     
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2012, 11:15:33 AM »
rule no. 2.  never part with money for which you won't get an official receipt.  sending money through the bank to a certain someone you haven't personally met?  just say bye-bye, tooth decay. 

these victims that i personally know have done that.  sadly, they never got their money back.  a rundown in pesos:

victim 1:  100,000 plus
victim 2:      2,000
victim 3:  400,000 plus
victim 4:  -none-
victim 5:  1.3 million (!)

Kaning istorya sa victim number 5 maoy ahong gihuwatan. Pastilan!
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 11:50:25 AM »
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 02:27:54 PM »
waiting for victim no. 5 ... at least we can learn something from these stories ....... thanks Miss isles
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2012, 02:30:24 PM »
coming...

victim 5

yes, she can afford that amount.  but i doubt if anyone can afford to lose it and just say pooh-pooh, that was nothing.  in her case, outside of her savings, she raised the money by drawing on her retirement way ahead.  it can be done at the agency where she works.

the promise: a job placement for her daughter in new york.  there were some obscure details added, like what kind of job she'd have or where she could stay, but it meant negotiating in dollars, mind.  what made it more believable, for her anyway, was that the terms included a return of 50% of what she'd paid in case she backed out.

the usual modus ensued.  there's a hitch in the paperwork, more payment was needed, and so on and on and sickeningly on.  she managed to keep on by assuring herself each time that perhaps, this could be it, finally, and she remitted the required additional payment once again.  it struck me as no different from an addiction to gambling, the kind when a gambler gets a high thinking of the returns if he staked his money some more.

that went on for months.  when she realized that her total payments had become staggering and still nothing had happened, she chose to back out and asked for the promised return of 50% of her total payments.

it was at this point that she told me her story, including the time when she went to the u.s. embassy in manila to ask for help and got nothing.  she might as well be an alien from outer space asking for directions.  she should have known that only divine intervention could help her by then.

you had receipts?  none.  who were you sending money to, any name and address?  oh, she had a name (frankly, it could be anybody's name), and the address is a post office box.  (like her, i also despaired at this point.) 

how did you get yourself into this thing?  the internet.  how did you ever begin to believe it?  a friend had her daughter placed there this same way.  where's this friend now?  do you have proof that her daughter is already there?  no answer.  at least i can have my 50% back...

please, please, don't send even a cent anymore.  she did anyway, to the tune of around 40k equivalent in pesos, purportedly for the processing of the 50% recovery of all her payments.  just this one more time, it could be real, she said in her usual hopeful attitude.  zilch.

may i point out that if anything, this friend happens to be very trusting in fellow human beings, which is a good thing, why not.  her weakness was in sticking her neck out for her daughter, who is of major age, to probably make real her own unfulfilled dreams.   

believe in your dreams, but don't pass them on for others to fulfill and live by, not even to your own children.
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2012, 01:30:51 AM »
kining mga sweet and fast talker makakwarta gyud  nga naglingkod ra sa ilang balay...pero kanang nihatag ug milyon..kasakit baya sa dughan ana... ::)
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2012, 10:21:11 AM »
Mikausa pa gajud diay si victim number 5!

Mosajaw na lamang ta ani ug Mambo Number 5! ;D
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2012, 10:52:35 AM »
kini laging believer ug hope springs eternal...
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Re: Modus operandi of illegal recruiters
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2012, 03:22:12 PM »
kalooy sa mga nahintungdan, always remember e check jud unsa ka tinood kay kahibalo naman ta nga daghan na binoang, dili padala sa mga too too nila, kasagaran na biktima mga willing mubutang, qualification wise naay mga kuwang mao mo hala basin ma pwede hay nako looy ra tawon madangatan


 

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