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Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« on: September 20, 2012, 12:55:31 AM »
Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts in Senate over Scarborough Shoal negotiations

Senator bolts out of majority bloc

By Maila Ager
INQUIRER.net
September 19th, 2012


MANILA, Philippines – Senate President Juan Ponce-Enrile and Senator Antonio Trillanes IV traded accusations on Wednesday over a bill seeking to divide Camarines Sur province and the senator’s role as special envoy of the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal dispute with China.

It was Trillanes who first stood up on the floor and announced that he was leaving the majority bloc to join the minority group after he exposed the alleged caucus called by Enrile in his office in the Senate last July 24.
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 12:58:49 AM »

Senators Juan Ponce Enrile and Antonio Trillanes IV

Trillanes did not reveal what they discussed in the caucus but said “suffice to say that I was shoved aside for the nth time.”

“I got out of that caucus feeling trampled upon by a bully determined to get his way,” he said.

“My neophyte instincts were telling me then to just keep the peace and get out of his way. But then the public servant in me just couldn’t let thing pass,” said the senator.

Enrile said the bill should be passed immediately “to immediately relieve him of the pressure”, Trillanes recalled.

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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 01:00:21 AM »
“What, the great Senator Enrile could be pressured? I remember him saying otherwise during the last impeachment proceedings,” he said.

“Is the pressure coming from Congressman Villafuete who we see often loitering about the senators’ lounge, the Senate President’s office and even possibly lobbying on [the bill] while we are in session?”

Trillanes said he kept on looking for a possible explanation for Enrile’s “irrational behavior” until a news report came out alleging that former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo called the Senate leader to speed up the passage of the bill.

“With this totally unexpected twist, everything seemed to fall into place. Now, there remain only two possibilities: That our Senate President is deeply indebted to GMA [Arroyo’s initial] or the he is a GMA lackey,” he said.
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 01:01:39 AM »
“Either way, I have lost trust, faith and confidence in Senator Enrile’s capability to lead the Senate along the path consistent with the reform agenda that I espouse.”

“I, therefore, manifest that I am leaving the majority and consequently joining the minority effective this day,” Trillanes added.

Enrile, who was presiding over the session, suspended the proceeding and took the floor to answer Trillanes allegations.

But when Enrile started to expose the alleged real story behind Trillanes in the Scarborough negotiations, Trillanes refused to answer the Senate leader and walked out, prompting Enrile to call his colleague a “coward”.

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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 01:23:03 AM »
Hmm, human sa comedy starring Sotto, high drama na pud sa Senado?
...than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 01:23:03 AM »

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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 01:51:18 AM »
hinaot unta nga di ni moliko ngadto sa horror flick.

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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 01:53:40 AM »
next picture: ACTION...
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 01:59:33 AM »
wa nay picture loll, gawas ug ganahan kang magbalikbalik ug tan-aw sa nawong ni trillanes.  mas gwapo baya tingali si pekeng arabo didto sa lain nga thread... ;D

Ambassador Sonia Brady's notes as read by JPE on the floor after Trillanes' speech

---please go to https://docs.google.com/file/d/1ddGSAKZQfLu0evGDGVm6VfEEVSjFwD2Y_P1GGzYN8EqQEVM1QC83-uGz9NNh/edit?pli=1

---it's an interesting exercise to separate the comments of senator enrile from the notes of ambassador brady

---magkugi unta kog separate the two before posting it here, problema lang kay di ko kahibawo mokopya ug pdf file.

ahat ba ug ang legislator nahimong magbuot sa executive branch on how to do its foreign affairs job.  this trillanes guy is coming out arrogant.  too bad, i voted for him in 2007.
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 02:04:02 AM »
well, there's a comedy in the senate, then drama... next thing you know nagsinumbagay na sila..
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2012, 02:05:55 AM »
samok2x lang ni silang mga tawoha ni para nako maypa munglay na sila wa gyud ko kasulay ug botar aning mga senador maypa akong ibutang sa baluta mga tambay sa amo kay nkatabang pa nako ;D ;D
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2012, 02:07:09 AM »
i didn't vote for Trillanes.. heheheh nor with Sotto...
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2012, 04:54:28 AM »

very interesting.  in case you have the time; it goes for more than 40 minutes. ;D
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2012, 04:57:47 AM »
KAHAMBOG! Interested pa sija sa mga Chinese!
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2012, 05:03:50 AM »
ambot bitaw ngano ning tawhana nga nagtoo man nga siyay nakahibawo sa tanan.  my vote for him before was a sympathy vote.  i thought he was idealistic.  kini laging mosipyat pod ta usahay sa atong choices.  i personally started disliking him with the way he treated the late gen. angelo reyes on the senate floor during that lamentable investigation that led to the general's suicide.
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2012, 05:05:58 AM »
it is always best to opt for magnanimity.  di na nimo patiran ang tawong natumba na human nimo sumbaga.  he's not capable of that.  or at least he didn't show that he has that streak of kindness during those times. 
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2012, 05:08:06 AM »
The same as for me Te. Out of sympathy for idealism.

But samtang nagbasa ko sa pdf file nga imong gipost, murag nangurog ahong pagka Pilipino!

Maajo pay giligsan na lamang na sijas tangke de guera didtos Makati!
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Enrile on Trillanes: 'My God, this guy is a fraud!'
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2012, 05:12:03 AM »
A fraud and a coward.

This was how Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile described Senator Antonio Trillanes IV in a word war that broke the silence during a caucus meeting in Senate Wednesday.

Enrile was supposed to preside over a meeting to discuss a bill dividing Camarines Sur when he suddenly took a swipe at Trillanes, divulging the “real story” behind his mission as special envoy to China concerning Panatag (Scarborough) shoal.

He charged Trillanes of selling the country’s sovereignty to China when he was tasked to conduct a “backdoor negotiation” to ease tension between Manila and Beijing over territorial dispute last May.

The Senate president accused Trillanes of telling "falsehoods" to Chinese officials that were allegedly “detrimental to the country" and Foreign Affairs Secretary Alberto del Rosario.

“’In the Philippines, no one cares about Panatag Shoal,’ he told (them). Is that patriotic? My God, what kind of a senator is this?” Enrile said.

“He told the Chinese that we cannot enforce our own coastal protection.  That our fishermen are living on subsistence living. That they cannot go too far so they can give the (disputed) part of the waters to us,” he added.

Citing notes from Philippine Ambassador to China Sonia Brady, Enrile said that Trillanes told officials in Beijing that Foreign Affairs Secretary Alberto del Rosario no longer enjoys confidence of the Filipino people.

“My God, this guy is a fraud!” Enrile said, describing his expose as an attempt to “unmask the Phantom of the Opera” in Philippine Politics.

Enrile issued the statement after Trillanes bolted out of the majority bloc in the Senate, joining the minority in expression of his lost of confidence in the senate president’s leadership.

Earlier, Trillanes criticized Enrile for his “shabby policy” in a speech he delivered during a caucus discussing the bill seeking to divide Camarines Sur into two provinces before walking out on Wednesday afternoon.

The neophyte senator called Enrile “a bully” after claiming he was shoved aside for the nth time when Enrile called for a caucus to discuss the bill dividing Camarines Sur in July.
         
“I got out of that caucus feeling trampled upon by a bully determined to get his way. My neophyte instincts were telling me then to just keep the peace and get out of his way,” Trillanes said.

“But then, the public servant in me just couldn’t let this thing pass,” he added, reiterating the division of Camarines Sur will not be beneficial to the state.

He then accused Enrile of accommodating former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s three allies, including former Camarines Sur Rep. Luis Villafuerte, who will benefit from the bill.

He also charged Enrile of gerrymandering in pushing for division of Camarines Sur, which would benefit Arroyo’s son and  incumbent Camarines Sur Rep. Dato Arroyo.

Citing a published article, Trillanes revealed that another senator confirmed that Enrile was receiving personal calls from Mrs. Arroyo in a bid to hasten the passage of the measure in the Senate.

“There remain only two possibilities: that our Senate President is deeply indebted to GMA; or that he is a GMA lackey,” Trillanes said.

“Either way, I have lost trust, faith and confidence in Senator Enrile’s capability to lead the senate along the path consistent with the reform agenda that I espouse,” he added.

Senator Jose “Jinggoy” Estrada defended Enrile, saying his “second father” has always been "balanced” and never “a bully” or a lackey of Arroyo.

Estrada and Senate Majority Leader Senator Tito Sotto manifested Trillanes’ walkout and baseless accusation as cowardly.

Source:
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/enrile-on-trillanes---my-god--this-guy-is-fraud--.html
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2012, 05:55:31 AM »
tsk, tsk.  china gains from the messiah complex of one filipino senator.  excited na ko ani unsay mga opinions sa mga pundits.  i would be enjoying good reading in the coming days.
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2012, 02:42:26 PM »
Palace should have denied Trillanes role, says military analyst

Philippine Daily Inquirer
Friday, September 21st, 2012


There should have been no controversy had the Palace not acknowledged Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV’s unofficial role in the negotiations with China.

Retired Commodore Rex Robles, a military analyst, said Thursday that agents sent to back-channel talks were never acknowledged.
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Re: Senators Enrile, Trillanes word war erupts
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2012, 02:43:12 PM »
Whether the talks are a success or a failure, the backroom negotiator “is out of the picture,” Robles said.

Any commendation given in recognition of his work is usually burned. “Only the ashes of that burned sheet of paper is given to the negotiator,” Robles said.

Robles said he was surprised when Malacañang confirmed Trillanes’ claim that he was the government’s backroom negotiator in the West Philippine Sea dispute.
Republic Act 8485 (Animal Welfare Act of 1998, Philippines), as amended and strengthened by House  Bill 6893 of 2013--- violation means a maximum of P250,000 fine with a corresponding three-year jail term and a minimum of P30,000 fine and six months imprisonment

 


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