Author Topic: Anger of PH consul general in Vancouver goes viral (Read 1998 times)

islander · « **on:** April 26, 2013, 09:15:45 PM »

Shared on YouTube: â€œDrunkâ€ Behavior of Philippine Consul General in Canada

Posted on April 22nd, 2013. Written by Rico.

A Filipino named Proceso Jr. Flordeliz has complained about the behavior of Jose A.P. Ampeso, a Philippine Consul General based in Canada, through YouTube and popular car enthusiast forum Tsikot. Included in the account are accusations of working drunk and asking for a â€œdonationâ€.

Last Friday, Flordeliz (through his YouTube account â€œgreatauror28â€³) uploaded a 28-second video of Ampeso (in photo, wearing a barong) during a Passport Renewal Outreach program in Red Deer, Alberta, a Canadian city around 1,000 kilometers away from Ampesoâ€™s base of Vancouver. The video shows the consul raising his voice while confronting someone else over procedural matters.

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islander · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:20:35 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbK4qZZCNfg#

Around two days later, Flordeliz shared his story on Tsikot, a popular online automobile enthusiast community:

This happened yesterday in Sheraton Hotel in Red Deer, Alberta wherein a Passport Renewal Outreach was being done. Basically, the Phil Consulate and staff come to provinces of Canada for Filipinos who want to renew their passports, request NBI clearance, and such. This activity can be done any day though in Vancouver, British Columbia (BC).

Now, I booked an appointment and was scheduled today at 4:05 pm. The outreach is only 4 days and only allows up to 400 renewals. Having said that, many came just to try their luck even though walk-in renewals have little chance of succeeding.

I came with my wife and 3 month-old baby all the way from Edmonton, which is almost a 2-hr drive. When I entered the ballroom 3, where the passport renewals were made, I was surprised to see a lot of people. I ask an elderly man who was sitting behind a desk, along with two ladies. I came up to him and asked. Hereâ€™s how the conversation went:

Me: Is this where you pass your requirements for passport renewal?
Elderly Man: (grinning slightly) Magdodonate ka ba?
Me: (smelt alcohol in his breath) Uh, I donâ€™t think Iâ€™d do it today. Maybe next time.

Then he disregarded me and went to talk to somebody else. One of the lady sitting beside him asked me if I had an appointment booked for today. I said yes at 4:05pm. She then immediately stopped the papers she was processing and preceded to get my requirement papers. Turns out those applications were already for the waiting list, the ones who just walked-in.

After that, I went out and got a pen for my wife just to be ready for other forms to fill-up, but there werenâ€™t any. I was asked to wait for my surname to be called as usual policy of government transactions. The elderly man called my last name finally, and as I stood up, this conversation took place:

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islander · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:22:39 PM »

Me: I am!
EM: Now are you going to donate? (Serious look on face) Kahit magkano Ok lang.
Me: (getting my coin purse and jokingly) Okay lang ba one dollar? Eto lang nakayanan ko eh (with a smile on my face)
EM: (shouting) ONE DOLLAR? PARA SA PILIPINAS YAN TAPOS ONE DOLLAR LANG IBIBIGAY MO? ANG CHEAP MO NAMAN, PARA SA PINAS YAN!
Me: Wait, I am only joking. You are right?
EM: MUKHA BAKONG NAGJOJOKE? SERYOSO AKO!! ONE DOLLAR LANG IBIBIGAY MO? GUSTO MO BANG KUNIN KO NA LANG PAPEL MO? WAG KA NA PAG RENEW-HIN??
Me: (still calm) Is this some kind of a joke? Whatâ€™s happening?

All people became silent as others murmur whispers of disapproval and disgust. Many suggest calling the police, some say that what transpired was not right, that I should file a complaint.

A lady and a man came up to me and asked for pardon. The lady told me to just let it pass, cause heâ€™s just tired from working from morning. That everyone should calm down. She asked me to proceed to another room where the picture-taking is being held and to just wait in there. She personally got my paper and pushed it until the last step.

Here I am just wanting my passport renewed and I have to deal with this arrogant, rude and drunk old man! Being berated as cheap by not giving â€œdonationâ€ which God knows what will become of it. Being threatened of not having my passport renewed, which I most certainly know that I didnâ€™t violate any laws to be denied of such. And being shouted at like a little kid in front of a crowd just smacks my morale to the gound.

Now, let me introduce to you who the elderly man is. He is no other than Philippine Consul General Jose Ampeso. Yes, the consul himself. Acting like that in front of Filipinos who work in another country just to have food in their familiesâ€™ plates. Filipinos, who occupy a big percentile of the Philippinesâ€™ GNI yearly by their remittances. Filipinos, like me, who dedicated effort and money on this day just to have passports renewed, but this is what we get.

Calling the Philippine Ambassador to Canada, to act on this matter. Or if we may, we would also appreciate DFA Sec Albert del Rosarioâ€™s help in ensuring that Filipinos here in Canada are getting the services of the embassy in a straightforward, proper and decent manner.

Besides, we are paying for the services. Money that we earned using blood and sweat.

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islander · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:25:04 PM »

Jose A.P. Ampeso: Career Diplomat

Before he became the consul general for Vancouver, Ampeso had graduated from UP Diliman (where he met Ninoy Aquino and became his frat mate at Upsilon Sigma Phi) was assigned to the US city New Orleans as a vice-consul by 1982. According to a personal account, Ampeso was also instrumental in acquiring a Passport for Ninoy Aquinoâ€™s fatal return to the Philippines in 1983.

In 2002, while based in Dubai, he had petitioned for the release of a Filipino Pastor jailed in the United Arab Emirates for distributing Christian materials translated into Arabic.

By 2012 Ampeso was already operating out Vancouver, in charge of a mission to provide help for Filipinos too far from the Embassy of the Philippines in Ontario.

As a flag bearer of sorts for his home country, Ampeso was a regular fixture at Filipino events in Vancouver, considered as a local VIP, and even weighed in over the controversial death of a Filipina caregiver last year.

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islander · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:29:39 PM »

greatauror28: Active on the Internet

A Google search of â€œgreatauror28â€³ reveals multiple accounts using the same handle on different online services, on of course YouTube, Tsikot as well as Flickr.

It was through the last online account, which contains an album featuring the birth of a baby boy dated 3 months ago, that we discovered greatauror28â€²s identity as Flordeliz.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Flordeliz currently works as a QA Analyst, the latest job in a career history full of IT-related positions for employers including Metrobank and San Miguel. The Filipino now lives in Edmonton Alberta, which according to his story above is a 2-hour drive from where his encounter with Ampeso occurred.

Outside of work, Flordeliz loves gadgets, cars, and photography.

http://technogra.ph/

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jorgeanna · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:45:04 PM »

good thing nga maayo kaayo ang Philippine Consulate diri sa Xiamen... very accomodating kaayo. pag-renew nako sa akong passport, walay daghan storya. pagkahibaw nila nga mingbyahi pa ko og 1 hour para lang maka-adto sa Xiamen, misag 11:50 na, ila gyud ko gi-entertain og gipahuman og fill up sa forms para dli na daw ko magbalik balik pa... finally, nahuman ko og 12:30 and mao pa paglunch sa nag-assist nako

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islander · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:51:59 PM »

mora bitaw ug there's more to this story than just the video. di man tingali masuko ang tawo kun wa ma-provoke, though it cannot be denied that getting angry that way just doesn't make the cut.

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islander · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:52:47 PM »

Ampeso says:

Ampeso said the video did not show that before the outburst, the applicant allegedly insulted him by insinuating that the Philippine official might just pocket his donation.

â€œFirst of all, the 27-second video showing me talking in a loud voice to a passport applicant, which made some people conclude that I was rude and arrogant, does not tell the whole story,â€ Ampeso said Thursday in a statement emailed to GMA News Online.

Ampeso said he only raised his voice against the applicant because â€œhe insulted me and poked fun at being requested to make a donation to the Philippine National Red Cross by offering to give a measly one dollar for this charitable cause.â€

â€œThatâ€™s why I became so agitated while explaining to him that if he had to give anything at all, it has to come from the heart for the typhoon victims,â€ Ampeso said.

GMA News Online has sought a reaction from the video uploader but has yet to receive a reply.

Ampeso has apologized for his actions.

â€œI apologize to anyone whom I may have offended. I assure you that I had only the best intentions in reacting in that manner,â€ Ampeso said in an apology letter sent to GMA News Online.

more at http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/305737/pinoyabroad/news/dfa-chief-vancouver-consul-general-erred-when-he-shouted-angrily-at-passport-applicant

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jorgeanna · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:53:15 PM »

mora bitaw ug there's more to this story than just the video. di man tingali masuko ang tawo kun wa ma-provoke, though it cannot be denied that getting angry that way just doesn't make the cut.

pero ang tao baya nga maka-inom na kay maging irrational na baya pud

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islander · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2013, 10:37:36 PM »

pero ang tao baya nga maka-inom na kay maging irrational na baya pud

i should know; moinom sad baya si banana republic...

in this case, though, i'd rather reserve judgment (or conclusion anyway) until after the investigation results, if the media would still bother to pick up the news by then. so far only the poster of the video claims he was drunk. (and that makes for readable news. any controversy attracts readers.)

if i must cast doubts on the consul general's behavior, so must i cast the same doubts on the video poster. he seems too fresh and forward, too smug. if it's true that he made a joke about the consul general pocketing the donation, well, that's something i'll blow my top over if i were in his place.

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2013, 11:35:01 PM »

Para nako murag hago ug stress jud ang consul general tiaw bay 100 passport iyang gi process anang adlawa. Murag normal raman iyang tingog yes ingtass pero wa man ingon nasuko pag ayo.Kini rabang ubang pinoy pud inig abot sa laing lugar abi kay ilang hunahuna nagserbisyo sa goberno ning consul sa pilipinas dayon pud pang insulto insulto.

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islander · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:53:53 AM »

i understand from further readings, going back all the way to 1995, that this ampeso guy is one problematic package. meanwhile, flordeliz, a much younger guy who doesn't have much of a history yet, had these statements that are quite telling:

...Filipinos, who occupy a big percentile of the Philippinesâ€™ GNI yearly by their remittances. Filipinos, like me, who dedicated effort and money on this day just to have passports renewed, but this is what we get.

let's call a spade a spade. let's talk here of percentage rather than percentile (ducks and chickens are fowls, but they're different from each other)...

for 2012, remittances from overseas filipinos were recorded at US$21.39 billion, or about 6.5 percent of the philippinesâ€™ Gross National Income (GNI) and 8.5 percent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

okay, size is relative. if 6.5 percent is a "big percentile of the Philippinesâ€™ GNI" for flordeliz, so be it.

we all have reasons to support our sense of self-respect, if not self-importance. i wonder what kris aquino will demand, if ever, because she's the number one taxpayer of all filipinos.

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islander · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:07:42 AM »

Calling the Philippine Ambassador to Canada, to act on this matter. Or if we may, we would also appreciate DFA Sec Albert del Rosarioâ€™s help in ensuring that Filipinos here in Canada are getting the services of the embassy in a straightforward, proper and decent manner.

here are hopes that flordeliz also displayed proper and decent manners. he seems to describe himself as such in his account, as if he did nothing to provoke such a tirade (if so, then why was he picked on?). nothing was said by him about his alleged insinuation that his donation might be pocketed by the "elderly man" (consul general ampeso).

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islander · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:16:46 AM »

Besides, we are paying for the services. Money that we earned using blood and sweat.

owww, please don't overplay the pitiful lonely ofw card. blood doesn't make the cut here; sweat, maybe, but blood? flordeliz has his whole family there with him and his job back in his country was enviable enough. but he wanted more, and now he talks of blood? surely, the first drop of blood over his job would make him scamper back home to his country.

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islander · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:34:38 AM »

Para nako murag hago ug stress jud ang consul general tiaw bay 100 passport iyang gi process anang adlawa. Murag normal raman iyang tingog yes ingtass pero wa man ingon nasuko pag ayo.Kini rabang ubang pinoy pud inig abot sa laing lugar abi kay ilang hunahuna nagserbisyo sa goberno ning consul sa pilipinas dayon pud pang insulto insulto.

bitaw, PWERA SA MAAYO GYOD UG SAKTONG PANGHUNAHUNA (the usual exceptions), naa baya poy uban nato nga kun makagawas na, nagtuo nang naahat ug kangilngig ang ilang nahibaw-an ug ang ilang estado.

i can imagine this flordeliz guy sa nag-apply pag trabaho sa canada... nagbadhas-badhas, nag antos sa manila, duko-duko sa poea sa labor department, waiting patiently like thousands of others. sa nakalusot na, boom! feeling canonized na tingali.

again, PWERA SA MAAYO, ang sinultihan baya anang uban mas kahibawo pa sa trabaho sa embassy kay sa ambassador mismo. di ra ba gyod ni sila kaugpo kun dia sa ato.

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islander · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:38:00 AM »

with apologies to the ofws who may read this (and this may not be about you specifically), don't take to heart too much the idea that you are heroes. you are, indeed, but first and foremost you worked in another country not because of patriotism but because you want more for your efforts. it's all about you and your family and relatives and whatever. in all honesty, it is doubtful whether one would choose to work outside because he loves his country.

mahinumdom man lang ko ani sa usa nato dinhi sa una, a beauty who declared that without her pounds the philippines will go bankrupt. aaargh. nagkinahanglan man tingali tog doktor si bai tigs tungod ato...

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taga tigbao · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2013, 11:51:00 AM »

Mura bitaw pud ug kuwang ra kaajo ang 27-second video for me to draw conclusion. One sided ang video.

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:14:13 PM »

naa baya poy uban nato nga kun makagawas na, nagtuo nang naahat ug kangilngig ang ilang nahibaw-an ug ang ilang estado.

Agoi, naay nataopan sa agtang ani...

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hubag bohol · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:16:06 PM »

mahinumdom man lang ko ani sa usa nato dinhi sa una, a beauty who declared that without her pounds the philippines will go bankrupt. aaargh. nagkinahanglan man tingali tog doktor si bai tigs tungod ato...

Hmm, sounds familiar. Kining edaran na ta, limtanon na. If I recall right, there was some thermal imagery or something...

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Raquelproud boholana · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:17:46 PM »

karemember man sad ko ani sa na cancel among flight sa PAL from Los Angeles,CA unya gipangbutang mi ug hotel. Pastilan kay ang bus nga among nasakyan kay di man diay pa HILTON Hotel and among naabtan kay Hacienda Hotel man nuon. Ag mga filipino nga kasakay nako perti nang mga isoga dayong ingon ug ikiha kono nila ang PAL.Pag abot sa reception area nanuyo tong usa ka Pinoy nga niya pa naa kono siya sa Exxon Mobil ba to nagwork unya iyang Uncle daw murag dako ug katungdanan sa LAPD . Akoy naulaw sa iyang gibuhat kay gi mura mura ra nila tong receptionist nga african/american ug latino. Singgit singgit siya oi nga tawagan daw niya iyang Uncle. Gapakaulaw ra jud. Dali dali jud ko kuha adto sa akong susi sa kwarto ug dayong panira kay sa tinood lang makauulaw ning uban diri murag kinsa bitaw. Although murag ing sukwahi ni akong story pero akong buot ipaibot nga naa juy klase sa tawo nga pareha aning ing complain pahaba dayon. Hilig raba ning ubang big time pinoy konohay mang insulto kay ilang feeling ka level na nila ang consul ba ron or presidente.

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jorgeanna · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2013, 01:11:33 PM »

Although murag ing sukwahi ni akong story pero akong buot ipaibot nga naa juy klase sa tawo nga pareha aning ing complain pahaba dayon. Hilig raba ning ubang big time pinoy konohay mang insulto kay ilang feeling ka level na nila ang consul ba ron or presidente.

mao gyud ni ang hate nako kung magpalaban na gani og laing tao unya mention dayon og si genera or si presidente .,.. kung hawd ka, dapat ihambug imong kaugalingon dli kay ipanghambug nmo nga kaila ka sa mga dagkung tao

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