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Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« on: January 19, 2017, 01:37:13 PM »

Robredo trolls declaring war armed only with their anonymous cowardice 


BY ANTONIO P. CONTRERAS   
JANUARY 19, 2017

THE thing about exercising a political right, if it comes from the heart, is that you pour your inner soul into it, and your words become pure, even if these may include curses, epithets and cuss words.

In contrast, a paid troll whose politics stems from a contract, whether it is as a social media conscript as a keyboard warrior working on a per-post basis, or as a regularly paid staff member of a politician, like a senator or even a Vice President, will always appear indecent even without cursing. Their words will reveal the lost cause they are paid to bear.

This is precisely why the main weapon of Robredo trolls populating the Internet is to accuse people like Mocha Uson, Sass Rogando Sasot, RJ Nieto also known as Thinking Pinoy, Trixie Angeles, Rocky Gonzales, Krizette Laureta Chu, Lorraine Badoy, Vince Rivera, MJ Quiambao Reyes and all the others who they perceive as defending the President and are critical of Leni Robredo as paid or “bayaran.” The Robredo trolls know it is demeaning because it is who they are, and they are ashamed of it, that is why they take refuge in names such as Superficial Gazette, Madam Claudia and Silent No More.
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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2017, 02:50:23 PM »

I have been accorded the honor of being included in their distinguished list of political warriors.

We are called “bayaran” but we are not the ones hiding our faces only to inflict the worst of insults on our enemies. We take responsibility for our words. We are lawyers, doctors, graduate students and writers. We are graduates of respectable schools. Our boldness to be more revealing in some of our social media profiles is evidence that we are confident not only about our minds but also our physicality.

We are fiercely independent that we do not agree on everything. Our politics is one of commitment, and not as an income-generating activity, or a mere day job. We engage our followers not with canned responses and memes, but with our own words that we prepare and craft every day as authentic expressions of what we believe in.
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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2017, 02:52:58 PM »

And ranged against us are the Robredo trolls unleashed by that command from her office, which was revealed in #LeniLeaks and has effectively damned her. One columnist in the diaspora, appearing to be erudite, claimed that there is no “Leni” there, considering that the unsecured conversations were made only about her, and she took no active part in the discussions.

That is the problem with Leni Robredo. Her apologists paint her as a helpless, clueless beneficiary of political plots. She has to rely on her paid social media operators to save her failing image. This is the same Leni that is unaware that others were moving to commit a massive electoral fraud on her behalf. Pieces of evidence of this fraud have been revealed, from the mathematical disparities of an anomalous straight line, to the existence of an illegal fourth server, and now to the suspicious presence of data in the SD cards of unused VCMs.

But what do you expect from someone whose life as first lady of Naga City was one of detachment that she had to rely on a Girl Friday to do her bidding. When Typhoon Nina struck, in her absence she yielded her voice to Georgina Hernandez.
Republic Act 8485 (Animal Welfare Act of 1998, Philippines), as amended and strengthened by House  Bill 6893 of 2013--- violation means a maximum of P250,000 fine with a corresponding three-year jail term and a minimum of P30,000 fine and six months imprisonment

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2017, 02:53:27 PM »

And now, she once again relies on others to fight her dirty war. Her office instructed her paid trolls, whose anonymous sites appear to be well-funded, to declare open war on all of us her critics. We are being called the worst of names.

The thing is, instead of fighting her cause these anonymous keyboard warriors further damage her. They spill enough vitriol to infect some students, faculty and graduates of UP, Ateneo and La Salle and turn them into trolls too, when they behave in exactly the same way they paint the Duterte masses—allegedly uncouth and uneducated. I have seen many of my decent colleagues and former students behave in trollish ways, forgetting their moral compasses, and using words unfit for the kind of day jobs they have—as teachers of minds, animators of development and as decent citizens of this Republic.

Sometimes, I pity Leni Robredo. I wonder whether she realizes that she is sinking fast in the quicksand that her clueless politics has thrown her into.
Republic Act 8485 (Animal Welfare Act of 1998, Philippines), as amended and strengthened by House  Bill 6893 of 2013--- violation means a maximum of P250,000 fine with a corresponding three-year jail term and a minimum of P30,000 fine and six months imprisonment

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2017, 02:54:46 PM »

One who is politically astute will be more discerning not to piss off cyber-activists who are so committed to their politics, courageous enough not to hide their identities and are so articulate that words pour naturally from their minds into their keyboards

One who is ready to become President would not unleash a paid army of trolls who are only too willing to fight her battles from a position of anonymity using memes that do not even spell “wannabe” correctly, and whose best argument is to assault us with the trite allegation that we are paid operators and Marcos loyalists.

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2017, 03:41:41 PM »

ANSWERING CONTRERAS IS THIS COMMENTER:

GABBY on JANUARY 19, 2017 7:54 AM

Greetings Dr. Contreras,

“Crusaders” to revise history?

I am relieved to learn you have admitted being part of a group of “political crusaders” intent on expressing your (partisan?) views on issues confronting the nation.It is definitely your Constitutional right to be heard and no democratic government can take it away from you.

However, you must also be aware such right is not limited to a few but guaranteed for all Filipinos — even those whose views differ from yours.
Republic Act 8485 (Animal Welfare Act of 1998, Philippines), as amended and strengthened by House  Bill 6893 of 2013--- violation means a maximum of P250,000 fine with a corresponding three-year jail term and a minimum of P30,000 fine and six months imprisonment

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2017, 03:42:59 PM »

I will not dwell on your inner motives but your written articles provide readers a hint of what it is — and the readers know who can afford to pay for trolls –certainly not the VP.

However responsible journalism demands ideas or opinions should be subject to intellectual challenge — for it is through an exchange of scholarly, well thought out ideas that we avoid “inbred, classical, obsolete and recycled” ideas complete with lots of bias and half-truths — characteristics of a Cold War mentality which has spilled over to our political arena. I just hope our classrooms are not contaminated by such failed thinking.

It is when we conduct a friendly scrutiny of one’s thoughts that ideas are polished — truth prevails and correct conclusions emerge. This is why dissenting voices must always be allowed and not curtailed.
In the end the nation comes out a winner from these creative discussions.
Republic Act 8485 (Animal Welfare Act of 1998, Philippines), as amended and strengthened by House  Bill 6893 of 2013--- violation means a maximum of P250,000 fine with a corresponding three-year jail term and a minimum of P30,000 fine and six months imprisonment

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2017, 03:43:30 PM »

Simply, no one must be the sole source of reason — otherwise it is plain propaganda. It must collective, assembled from brilliant minds (and not paid trolls masquerading as innocent, impartial obeservers). Otherwise it’s just lose and irresponsible talk.

It is appropriate at this point to bring to light a profile of your most recent articles — to come to a conclusion if what you have written are fair and unbiased.
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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2017, 03:44:29 PM »

Let’s see.

1. Except for the Dec 23 article, I see very limited constructive discussions on Pdu30– no mention of the pluses or minuses of his administration — just guarded statements on him.

2. On the contrary, there are numerous, very sharp articles written vs. Vice President Leni, with all the unpleasant and unfounded innuendos. It is clear, there is a sustained effort to discredit her.
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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2017, 03:45:05 PM »

3. There is an underlying theme in your articles — the Marcos era and Martial Law was not that bad. The “yellows” are to blame for this perception and this “error” needs to be rectified — if not rewritten. More disturbing is the media slant that the people espousing this train of thought have the “birth right” to undo what is now written — with no questions asked. So, if such is the case, how then are they different from the “yellows” — not much, in my opinion.

4. This is where it gets messy if not convoluted — a subtle twist of facts. Probably in your desire to bring this (Martial Law) reasoning to the forefront, you (or your group) have zeroed in on the VP and painted her as a distrustful official just because of her strong stance against the Martial Law era and those incorrectly claiming sole rights to change it. The political attacks on her, just because of her personal and party affiliation, is unjust and uncalled for — specially after she has openly expressed her willingness to work with the administration.
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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2017, 03:46:42 PM »

These facts are suspiciously absent or ignored in your articles.

Although, your partisan accounts are predictable. Am glad, VP Leni Divinely stands in the way of reckless revisionist moves (& to get back in power with the same psyche) that may have taken place — had the losing candidate won.

Thank God for this.

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 04:29:24 PM »
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We are called “bayaran” but we are not the ones hiding our faces only to inflict the worst of insults on our enemies. We take responsibility for our words. We are lawyers, doctors, graduate students and writers. We are graduates of respectable schools. Our boldness to be more revealing in some of our social media profiles is evidence that we are confident not only about our minds but also our physicality.

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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2017, 04:37:52 PM »
A PLAGIARIST, A MAD MAN
https://lilacsunsetsblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/04/a-plagiarist-a-mad-man/
Posted on August 4, 2016 by lilacsunsetsblog


Times have changed and tables have turned. We are now at the time when we believe the deceivers and falsifiers and reject the authentic truth-tellers. The truth has failed to satisfy us, thus the instinctive move to accept as true what will make us more renowned in our own rights and in social media.

I thought that after the campaign and the elections, decency will once more be upheld. It was a given that we all became barbaric in our mission to help and protect our presidential and vice presidential candidates. We did everything we can to help them get votes: liking their posts, sharing their stories, posting personal moments with them, commenting on their official pages, spreading lies against their opponents, sharing funny memes favoring them… name it, I believe we all have done it. It died down after the elections. However, for some, especially those who received a lot of attention and gained a following, there is the urge to continue to spread lies and blow a single photo or headline out of proportion.

This seems to be the case of Dr. Antonio Contreras. I knew of him when I was in college. He already had a reputation for liking to be at the forefront of issues, being the center of attention and playing god to his students. I knew he had an axe to grind with Vice President Leni Robredo that’s why he never stopped bashing her on his social media accounts during the elections. Until now however, he has not ceased this divisive action.

Why? Probably because he has not yet moved on from his grudges against the Robredos and Leni is an easy target now being the Vice President; possibly because he gained a lot of attention (interviews & followers) during the election and he cannot resist the urge to post comments or photos that will make him and his statements ‘viral’; or just because ‘he can’ and some people believe him, lies or not.

As I said in my earlier post, equally important to the message is the messenger. Why then should I believe Contreras when he is a known PLAGIARIST himself. He was suspended from UP for it. He claims it is an honest mistake on the part of his research assistant but he plagiarized his RA’s plagiarized work by not citing the RA. Plagiarism was committed in two levels. Moreover, the ‘honest mistake’ excuse is never viable, if that is so, no one would ever be guilty of plagiarism.

He became very outspoken against plagiarism even going after Sen. Tito Sotto when he embarrassingly committed his. I believe this was because one, he wanted the fame that came with it; second, by going against Sen. Sotto, Contreras is trying to show that he himself will not commit plagiarism – a complete hogwash; and third, he was washing his hands of plagiarism he himself committed.

Why should I believe someone who is just out on revenge? Remember, he is lashing out on the Robredos. His version of the truth is without impartiality. Contreras’ cousin RTC Judge Jaime Contreras raped his own daughter. The girl turned to Leni for help, who was then already a Congresswoman. She could not represent the girl in court, thus she referred her to a lawyer friend. The story gets more complicated but to keep it short, the Contreras family kept badgering Leni regarding the whereabouts of the girl but Leni chose to protect the victim. This issue is what is behind Contreras’ attacks. He chose to make what is a moral and legal issue, a family feud. And now, he is taking it out on Leni who is susceptible to attacks given her political stature.

Again, I ask you, why should you believe a PLAGIARIST and an ANGRY MAD MAN who will say anything on social media for fame? There is just no credibility. His command of English may be good, his knowledge of social media may be infallible but his effective use of Facebook and political jargon does not dignify him as someone truthful. His may points may seem valid at times but validity does not equate to truth.

A note to you Tonton Contreras, stop it already. You are the laughing stock of your department and of DLSU. You are bringing shame to the university as you are digging a hole for yourself.

#StopTheLies #BayarangBullyniMarcos #MoveOnTonton
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Re: Robredo Trolls, and the Answer (great reads, both)
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2017, 03:59:33 AM »

por santo. if true, what a shame.
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