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« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2009, 08:23:22 AM »
Unsa man kaha pod ang gigikan sa pulong SAWANG, wn?

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« Reply #121 on: October 14, 2009, 09:18:13 AM »
Unsa man kaha pod gigikan ang pulong SAWANG, wn?

Kini maoy medjo lisod-lisod nga pangutana. ;D

Sa ubang parte sa Kabisay-an nga ahong naadtoan, wa man ko kadungog aning SAWANG. Atoa ra ba ni?

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« Reply #122 on: October 14, 2009, 09:23:06 AM »
Kini maoy medjo lisod-lisod nga pangutana. ;D

Sa ubang parte sa Kabisay-an nga ahong naadtoan, wa man ko kadungog aning SAWANG. Atoa ra ba ni?

ako nang gi-edit ang akong pangutana, kay nisamot og kalisod tubagon.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #123 on: October 14, 2009, 09:28:28 AM »
Ang sawang, nia ra sa Bohol. Ang sawang diri sa Davao, Poblacion man.
Kasagarang gilitok sa atong mga katigulangan. Karon,dili na ta kadungog
sa mga batan-on karon nga naggamit aning pulonga.

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« Reply #124 on: October 14, 2009, 09:36:00 AM »
di ba kaha kini gikan sa pulong HAWAN? SA HAWAN o SA HAWANAN. kay ang kasagaran nga sentro sa usa ka dapit maoy naHAWAN.

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« Reply #125 on: October 14, 2009, 09:40:44 AM »
Dili ba pud kaha SAW-AN? Adto didto ang mga tawo magsawo og kaon, o unsa pay angay saw-an. SAW-AN SA HAWAN, he he. ;D

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« Reply #126 on: October 14, 2009, 09:51:49 AM »
Dili ba pud kaha SAW-AN? Adto didto ang mga tawo magsawo og kaon, o unsa pay angay saw-an. SAW-AN SA HAWAN, he he. ;D

kasagaran ra bang makigSAWO kay gustong mapatunga (magpa-POBLACION, hehehhe) (asa na kaha pod ning SAWANGA padong?  ;D)

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« Reply #127 on: October 14, 2009, 09:59:46 AM »
kasagaran ra bang makigSAWO kay gustong mapatunga (magpa-POBLACION, hehehhe) (asa na kaha po ning SAWANGA padong?  ;D)

Bwahaha. Basta dili lang didto sa giingon ni Bay WN nga "lujong sawang"! ;D

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« Reply #129 on: October 14, 2009, 10:28:35 AM »
Bwahaha. Basta dili lang didto sa giingon ni Bay WN nga "lujong sawang"! ;D

kanang SAWANG jud nga nagkabibo sa kadaghang tawo, dili sa nagkadaghang balahibo. hahahahaha.

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« Reply #130 on: October 14, 2009, 10:30:02 AM »
:-X :-X

He he, no comment man lagi ka ron, Cat? Di ka makigsawo sa imong mga pagtulon-an? ;D

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« Reply #131 on: October 14, 2009, 10:33:49 AM »
iya og syudadnon na, hubs. dili na ganahan sa SAWANG nga tawag, kundi CAPITAL o di ba AGORA... ;D

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« Reply #132 on: October 14, 2009, 12:11:11 PM »
kanang SAWANG jud nga nagkabibo sa kadaghang tawo, dili sa nagkadaghang balahibo. hahahahaha.


sani naman na, CAT, gilood o gibahoan o nakaton?  ;D
nakamaho kay mura og naay padungan ning sawanga

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« Reply #133 on: October 15, 2009, 01:59:48 AM »
Loon also has "Lujong Sawang" which is now more poplarly known as Libertad in Barangay Moto Sur.

Kanang Sawang, dili ba kaha na gikan sa "sa wala nga" bahin sa poblacion. "Sa wang" bahin, dili "Sa tuong" bahin. He he he.

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« Reply #134 on: October 15, 2009, 02:25:26 AM »
nakamaho kay mura og naay padungan ning sawanga

sagdi lang og asang sawanga padong, cat, basta di lang ta manimaho.  ;D

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« Reply #135 on: October 15, 2009, 04:40:05 AM »
Brief History of the Establishment of Guindulman, Bohol
By: Dr. Jes B. Tirol, Ph.D.
Historian

Proem
On July 3, 1768 the Royal Order that expelled the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) from all Spanish dominion was implemented in Bohol. At the time when the Jesuits left, the following were the towns existing in Bohol:

1.Baclayon
2.Dauis
3.Dimiao
4.Hagna
5. Inabanga
6. Loay
7. Loboc
8. Loon  
9. Malabohoc
10. Tagbilaran
11. Talibon

It can be noticed that in 1768 the town of Guindulman did not exist yet. In fact it was only the fourth town established by the Augustinian Recollects in Bohol. The Augustinian Recollects was the religious order that replaced the Jesuits in Bohol.

Date of Creation:
Guindulman, Bohol was once part of Jagna, Bohol. It was established as a town by Royal approval on May 1797. Since it was a Royal approval, it can be construed that the approval was only for the civil aspect of the town. It was only the following year, 1798, Guindulman became ecclesiastically separate from Jagna. The parish was advocated to Nuestra Señora de la Consolacion (Our Lady of Consolation/Comfort). The first parish priest is only recorded as Fr. Antonio. In all probability the priest was Father Candido de San Antonio, who shortly after arrival in Manila in 1797, was assigned to an unnamed curacy in Bohol.

Dagohoy – Espeleta Conferences
Archbishop Miguel Lino de Espeleta became acting Governor General on May 31, 1759 when Governor General Arandia died.

To achieve peace in Bohol, Gov. Gen. Archbishop Espeleta personally went to the headquarters of Dagohoy (via Talibon Island) for conferences with Dagohoy. Gov. Gen. Espeleta promised Dagohoy and his men a general pardon, correct and stop Spanish corruption, and assign Filipino priests in Bohol. He also promised to reconstruct the Inabanga Church.

Dagohoy (real name: Francisco Sendrijas) also promised to tolerate Christianity in Bohol. In June of 1761, Archbishop Manuel Rojo replaced Archbishop Espeleta. Espeleta then returned to Cebu as its Bishop. On May 1771, archbishop Espeleta died.

Dagohoy-Fr. Santa Barbara Conference
In the year 1768 the Augustinian Recollects replaced the Jesuits in Bohol. The Father Rector of the Recollects was Fr. Pedro de Santa Barbara.

Knowing the agreement between Archbishop Espeleta and Dagohoy, Fr. Santa Barbara lost no time in having a deal with Dagohoy. Fr. Santa Barbara went to Dagohoy’s headquarters for important conferences.

The Recollect Fathers were so careful that the relation was “so fine that after a short period from their arrival, they no longer need an armed force for the security of their persons.”

The Experiment
The coastal village of Guindulman was part of the town of Jagna. In 1797 it became large enough to become a separate town and parish. The requirement for a separate town was least 500 tributes or taxpayers.

When the town of Guindulman was created, it covered the areas now presently known as the municipalities of Guindulman, Anda, Mabini, and Candijay.

As a result of the Dagohoy – Santa Barbara conferences, an experiment was tried. Some of the monteses (the name used to refer to the followers of Dagohoy – JBT) were allowed to resettle in the Poblacion of Guindulman alongside the “Christian” residents. However, some disagreement occurred between the followers of Dagohoy (monteses) and the Christians. The monteses went back to the mountains. It was only in the 1817 when the monteses came back. However, they were made to resettle at Tugas (now:Tugas, Candijay) to prevent a re-occurrence of the previous dispute with the Christian of Poblacion, Guindulman.

The Name
We will determine how the Guindulman got its name. We will establish the etymology of the word “Guindulman” devoid of folktales and legends.

Dr. Cecilio Putong in his book “Bohol and Its People” has the following story: “Its is said that the town used to be called Guindulman, meaning overtaken by darkness. The story was that formerly there were only two towns organized in this part of Bohol, namely: Jagna and Batuanan (now: Alicia). Travelers starting from either these towns in the morning were sure to be benighted or overtaken by darkness in this place, hence the name, which later was changed to Guindulman.”

Almost all Boholano writers agree that the base word or root word of Guindulman is the Bisayan word Dulom or Dom, which is taken to mean darkness or moonless night.

The explanation of Dr. Putong is plausible. However, there are defects in the explanation. First, town of Batuanan was actually proposed as a town on February 5, 1828 and finally approved on December 9, 1831. Therefore Batuanan was created as a town 34 years later than Guindulman. So the story could not be true.

Second, Dr. Putong’s explanation of the word Guindulman has a grammatical defect. In the Bisayan language, when an event or action usually or repeatedly happens in a place, the suffix to be used is “. .anan”. The suffix “. .an” is used when the event happens only once in a place.

The single event may be for a short duration or for a long continuous time.
The word Guindulman, with is suffix “..an”, signify that the event of being benighted happened only once. If it were a repeated event, the word should be Guindulmanan. As an illustration, consider the word bato, which means stone. If one puts some stones in a place at one time, the word to be used is batoan. Only the suffix “..an” is added. If the intended meaning is a usual place where some stones are put in place, the word becomes batoanan. The suffix use is “..anan.”

The question is - - - If being benighted usually happened at the particular place, why was it called Guindulman instead of Guindulmanan? There must be a better explanation.

The Diccionario Español-Bisaya (1885) by Father Juan Felix de la Encarnacion has two entries for the word dulom:
Dulom – Luchar cuerpo a cuerpo. (To wrestle, to struggle, body to body)
Dulom – Oscuridad que media desde que se pone el sol hasta que sale luna; cualquiera oscuridad. (Darkness from sunset until the moon appears; any kind of darkness).

The most fitting root word for Guindulman is the dulom that means to struggle body to body. It signifies an event that would allow the use only of the “..an” suffix. The prefix “Guin..” means acted, acted upon, or covered by. By attaching the affixes to the root word dulom, the new word would be Guinduloman. It signifies that the meaning of the root word happened only once. The Bisayan language allows the shortening of the word to Guindulman.

When the town of Guindulman was established, it was composed of Christianized and non-Christian Boholanos. Evidently there was conflict or struggle, body to body, between the Christians and the non-Christians.

The non-Christians were dismayed and went back to the mountains. The event of the conflict was the Guindulman, which means a place where there was a struggle, body to body.

Another indication that Guindulman signifies struggle is the word Tabajan. The present town center (poblacion) of Guindulman has a place called Tabajan and Sawang. The word Sawang means town plaza or the plaza near the church.

The root word of Tabajan is the word Taba. The dictionario Español-bisaya defines Taba as, to divide; to share; to sell a part or the whole or a worked out of farm. With the addition of the suffix “..han”, the word Tabajan means dividing line or the apportioned part.

This indicates that the town center of Guindulman was divided between the Christians at Sawang and the non-Christians at Tabajan. Even today there is still some kind of animosity between the resident s of Sawang and Tabajan even though the townfolks could no longer recall the original cause of the animosity.

The Cause of Conflict
The establishment of the town of Guindulman in 1797 was trial implementation of the agreement of Dagohoy and Father Santa Barbara. The Christians non-Christians were made to live near each other. The result was a struggle for domination.

Considering the rules at that time, the establishment would have been for both the civil and religious aspects of the town.

Juan Felix de la Encarnacion,”Diccionario Español-Bisaya “, Tipografia De Amigos Del Pais,Manila,1885.

Father Antonio was in charge of the religious aspect of the town. The struggle was on the control of the civil aspect. The non-Christian followers of Dagohoy had their chosen leader in the person of Ignacio Arañez.10 Naturally the followers of Dagohoy would not agree if he would not be made the Gobernadorcillo (Mayor). Since no agreement could be reached, the followers of Dagohoy went back to the hills. Of course not all monteses were able to go back to the hills. They were persuaded to come down again only in 1817 but chose to resettle at the present-day Tugas, Candijay, Bohol.

However, the names of places like Guindulman, Tabajan, Sawang had already become permanent.

Therefore the name Guindulman is an eponym or a name taken from a significant event.



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« Reply #136 on: October 15, 2009, 04:40:20 AM »
The word Sawang means town plaza or the plaza near the church.

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« Reply #137 on: October 15, 2009, 06:39:31 AM »
Bambi,

Ang pung poblacion kinatsila man ni. Gikan tingali ni sa pung "pueblo" nga sa ato pa lungsud. Ang poblacion sa atong naandan mao nang "town center" nga naa diha ang simbahan, munisipyo, mercado ug ang mga kalingawan sa lungsud naa pud diha. Ang atong mga katigulangan ang tawag ini sa atong sinultihan mao nang sawang.

Mao nga sa Tagbilaran ang unang sawang mao nang lugar dool sa Meridienne Hotel. [eastside of Tagbilaran] Sa hing-uswag na ang lungsud paingon sa "North side of the Capitol building" gitawag ang bag-ong "development" sa lungsud nga "lujong sawang".  

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thanks for the info WN.

mahinumdom lang ko sa ahong Lola nga moingon sa una..."Motugbong ta sa Sawang", unja mamalit ug sardinas, ginamos, buwad ug uban pa. ;D
Sa barrio nga ilang natawhan sa Inabanga  gitawag kini "Lonoy Cainsican" ug si Lolo taga "Lonoy Roma".  Sa paminaw may mga instik ba kaha nga nasaag didto and the Roman emperors? whahahaha ;D

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« Reply #138 on: October 15, 2009, 06:43:58 AM »
Unsa man kaha pod ang gigikan sa pulong SAWANG, wn?

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Ang tubag nako ini nga kining pulonga dala pud ni sa mga insek nga milalin didto sa Bohol. Ang mga lugar sa Bohol nga naay pagka-insek hilabi na ang Panglao Island mao ni; Tangnan nga ngan ug usa ka probinsiya sa China, Dauis, Dulho, Beking, Sungkulan, Mansasa, Kataingan ug Dimiao.

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« Reply #139 on: October 15, 2009, 07:05:49 AM »
The word Sawang means town plaza or the plaza near the church.

Bol,

Kini karong pung "sawang" diversified na ang meaning. Boot pasabot daghan nang makat-onan nato nga anggid-anggid lang ang boot pasabot. Pananglitan kining pung "plaza" is a place in the middle of a market or marketplace. Sa mga Griego ang tawag nila ini mao nang Agora. Agora is a place in the middle of a market where people can congregate to exchange ideas. Mao nga makadungog ta ug termino sa English nga; "marketplace of ideas".

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« Reply #140 on: October 15, 2009, 08:20:31 AM »
Glacier,

Ang tubag nako ini nga kining pulonga dala pud ni sa mga insek nga milalin didto sa Bohol. Ang mga lugar sa Bohol nga naay pagka-insek hilabi na ang Panglao Island mao ni; Tangnan nga ngan ug usa ka probinsiya sa China, Dauis, Dulho, Beking, Sungkulan, Mansasa, Kataingan ug Dimiao.

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kung adunay pagka-initsek ning pulong SAWANG, tingali adunay ikatampo pagpasabot kining mga pulonga nga musunod:

Sa Chinese ang pulong:

Wang = towards, in the direction of; prosperous.

Sa Wang = To Cast a Net

Apan, sa Indonesian pod:

Sawang (iii)= uninhabited jungle; wasteland

kamo konoy analisar ani. hahaha

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« Reply #141 on: October 15, 2009, 08:25:28 AM »
Bol,

Kini karong pung "sawang" diversified na ang meaning. Boot pasabot daghan nang makat-onan nato nga anggid-anggid lang ang boot pasabot. Pananglitan kining pung "plaza" is a place in the middle of a market or marketplace. Sa mga Griego ang tawag nila ini mao nang Agora. Agora is a place in the middle of a market where people can congregate to exchange ideas. Mao nga makadungog ta ug termino sa English nga; "marketplace of ideas".

Dugang:

Kanang pung sa Latin nga "forum" marketplace pud gihapon ang pasabot. Mao kining TB usa ni ka "forum" diin kita magsukli-anay ug mga panghuna-huna.

Sa una ako maghuna-huna ug plaza mao nang lugar nga anaay garden pananglit kanang Plaza Rizal sa Tagbilaran nga naa taliwa sa simbahan ug kapitolyo. Pero ang sakto ana mao nang hawan o hawanan. Si Glacier sakto anang iyang giingon nga hawanan. Ang mga katsila ang ilang gihimong plaza pananglit Plaza Miranda hawan nga lugar kana. Mao usab sa Tagbilaran nga kanang Plaza del Principe atubangan sa Capitol Building hawan nga lugar pud na. 

Therefore the words sawang, plaza, agora and forum are all of the same meaning. It's an open space in the middle of a marketplace where people can congregate to meet friends, tell stories and agree and disagree about the philosophy of life.

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« Reply #142 on: October 15, 2009, 09:46:40 AM »
kung adunay pagka-initsek ning pulong SAWANG, tingali adunay ikatampo pagpasabot kining mga pulonga nga musunod:

Sa Chinese ang pulong:

Wang = towards, in the direction of; prosperous.

Sa Wang = To Cast a Net

Apan, sa Indonesian pod:

Sawang (iii)= uninhabited jungle; wasteland

kamo konoy analisar ani. hahaha

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My idea that the word "sawang" is Chinese because the accent is Chinese. I have no strong evidence that it comes from the Chinese. But there are a lot of evidences that the Chinese migrated to Bohol and occupied the places of Dauis and Panglao. That is only my base of my opinion.

But let me say this; Some of history's oral and written information are conjectural ideas. It does not mean always that they are right. Pieces of evidence are not always strong but based only on coincidence, archaelogical findings and legacies that are left behind. One of the examples is; the ethnic language that we speak today like diwa which comes from Sanskrit meaning diva or spirit, bhay or bay a word refering to a friend which means brother. Salawal and pantalon are Indian words. And all these came from the Indians who migrated to Bohol.

The Chinese brought the words siakoy, bihon, miki, binangkal, minghoy, pungko, apo, ate, bakya, sitsit and I believe sawang also. Dauis comes from the word Tao or Dao a chinese religion which is the worship of their ancestors.

Now if you believe that your explanation of the word "sawang" is not a town center in Chinese
then explain or give this forum a stronger evidence than my explanation of the word sawang. If you think that sawang in chinese is "towards, in the direction of; prosperous; or  to Cast a Net then; where did the word "sawang" that means towncenter came from? Do you have any idea? If you cannot explain then the question is; "Which is nearer to the truth? My interpretation of sawang or yours? Hehehe...

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« Reply #143 on: October 15, 2009, 10:21:14 AM »
SAWANG = Binisaja na word. Saw-anan. Tapokanan. Maoy alirungan. Sentro. Sawo (to catch), etc.

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« Reply #144 on: October 15, 2009, 10:26:31 AM »
Loon also has "Lujong Sawang" which is now more poplarly known as Libertad in Barangay Moto Sur.

Kanang Sawang, dili ba kaha na gikan sa "sa wala nga" bahin sa poblacion. "Sa wang" bahin, dili "Sa tuong" bahin. He he he.

Hmmmm, good analysis. Kaysa Catigbian mao sad ning pagkabutanga: dunay Poblacion Este (sa toong bahin) ug Poblacion Weste (sa wang bahin). Unsa kaha no? Play on words?

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« Reply #145 on: October 15, 2009, 11:08:43 AM »
Glacier,

My idea that the word "sawang" is Chinese because the accent is Chinese. I have no strong evidence that it comes from the Chinese. But there are a lot of evidences that the Chinese migrated to Bohol and occupied the places of Dauis and Panglao. That is only my base of my opinion.

But let me say this; Some of history's oral and written information are conjectural ideas. It does not mean always that they are right. Pieces of evidence are not always strong but based only on coincidence, archaelogical findings and legacies that are left behind. One of the examples is; the ethnic language that we speak today like diwa which comes from Sanskrit meaning diva or spirit, bhay or bay a word refering to a friend which means brother. Salawal and pantalon are Indian words. And all these came from the Indians who migrated to Bohol.

The Chinese brought the words siakoy, bihon, miki, binangkal, minghoy, pungko, apo, ate, bakya, sitsit and I believe sawang also. Dauis comes from the word Tao or Dao a chinese religion which is the worship of their ancestors.

Now if you believe that your explanation of the word "sawang" is not a town center in Chinese
then explain or give this forum a stronger evidence than my explanation of the word sawang. If you think that sawang in chinese is "towards, in the direction of; prosperous; or  to Cast a Net then; where did the word "sawang" that means towncenter came from? Do you have any idea? If you cannot explain then the question is; "Which is nearer to the truth? My interpretation of sawang or yours? Hehehe...

WN   



   

WN

honestly, i am compelled to listen all your expert opinions about this term SAWANG, because i don't have any evidence to support mine. hahahaha.  i'm fully aware that simply having these chinese words doesn't diminish the difficulty to reconcile what we know and what we don't know.  i however intend to let you see it, under the impression that it might shed some light  about the word. besides, i don't see it contradicting our shared ideas on this matter.

still i believe in the dynamics of shared opinions which would be the ripe venue to solving some linguistic problems notwithstanding its antiquity and scarcity of evidence. maybe with your mastery of looking through the cracks of our history, we could unveil where SAWANG really comes from.

cheers.



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« Reply #146 on: October 15, 2009, 11:38:00 AM »
Lami unta kung naa pay Letter Y sa SAWANG kay ako untang e rambol: NGYAWAS!!!!

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« Reply #147 on: October 15, 2009, 12:08:39 PM »
He he, no comment man lagi ka ron, Cat? Di ka makigsawo sa imong mga pagtulon-an? ;D
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« Reply #148 on: October 15, 2009, 12:10:38 PM »
sagdi lang og asang sawanga padong, cat, basta di lang ta manimaho.  ;D

og di magmatngon manimaho jod ka.kay unja ang sawang ang napujo bilasa na og hasang.alisbo jod

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« Reply #149 on: October 16, 2009, 02:39:01 AM »
Sawang is a town in Lhuntse District in northeastern Bhutan

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« Reply #150 on: October 20, 2009, 02:08:04 PM »
WN

honestly, i am compelled to listen all your expert opinions about this term SAWANG, because i don't have any evidence to support mine. hahahaha.  i'm fully aware that simply having these chinese words doesn't diminish the difficulty to reconcile what we know and what we don't know.  i however intend to let you see it, under the impression that it might shed some light  about the word. besides, i don't see it contradicting our shared ideas on this matter.

still i believe in the dynamics of shared opinions which would be the ripe venue to solving some linguistic problems notwithstanding its antiquity and scarcity of evidence. maybe with your mastery of looking through the cracks of our history, we could unveil where SAWANG really comes from.

cheers.



I only conjecturized or surmised that the word "sawang" is Chinese because of the accent but the word "Sawang" would lead us also to a name of a town in Bhutan. This country is in the Himalayas and I believe their culture comes partly from Sanskrit or the Hindu civilization.

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« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2009, 02:43:50 PM »
I missed this discussion, he he.

Naabot na tag China, Bhutan ug Indonesia, pero naa bajay Sawang sa duol--barangay Sawang Calero sa Cebu City. Come to think of it, it is right smack beside San Nicolas district which--if my rusty local history serves me right--became the city center during the last half of the 19th century. From the word calero, I suppose there used to be lime kilns in the area. Pero wa may laing Sawang something sa Cebu as far as I know. ;D

As for the Chinese connection, well, the Chinese (most of them) lived in Cebu's Parian, which was towards the other end of historic Colon St.

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« Reply #152 on: October 20, 2009, 11:56:05 PM »
Sakto jud, kay kon mag-atubang ka sa bukid, "sa wang" bahin man nang Sawang Calero.

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« Reply #153 on: October 21, 2009, 03:00:58 AM »
hahaha. unya kay di man tanang SAWANG gihimong reference ang "sa wang" bahin.

ang WANG nagkahulugan baya pog "prosperous" sa akong pasukitsukit sa google. busa, di ba kaha kini maoy ilang itawag sa mga sentro, usa ka lugar nga mao ang labing progresibo?  hingpangutana baya tang mga bol-anon sa atong mga silingan og makakita ta nila nga nag-ilis kay padong molakaw. busa, akong imagination, ang mga tawo kaniadto, kung mangutana sa mga intsik, "migo, asa man ka padulong". tubag pod sa intsik, "sa Wang." (which means adto sa lubar nga bibo, progresibo, ang Wang) ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #154 on: October 21, 2009, 05:53:51 AM »
Sakto jud, kay kon mag-atubang ka sa bukid, "sa wang" bahin man nang Sawang Calero.

Ang nakaparat kon mag-atubang sa dagat... ;D

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« Reply #155 on: October 21, 2009, 05:57:30 AM »
Naghisgot na man lang tag possibilities, unsa kaha kon SAWANG is the same Sanskrit word that means "a form of entertainment that consists of story telling combined with dancing and music". Syempre adto jud ni sa daghang tawo, he he. ;D

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« Reply #156 on: October 21, 2009, 07:12:05 AM »
Naghisgot na man lang tag possibilities, unsa kaha kon SAWANG is the same Sanskrit word that means "a form of entertainment that consists of story telling combined with dancing and music". Syempre adto jud ni sa daghang tawo, he he. ;D

kung kini gamiton, bay hubs, arang daghang SAWANG sa Cubao, Malate, Timog ug ubang sook sa MM nga gipunsisokan sa mga tawo, nga nanayaw, namati sa music ug nag-inum pa. hahahaha

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« Reply #157 on: October 21, 2009, 08:54:37 AM »
kung kini gamiton, bay hubs, arang daghang SAWANG sa Cubao, Malate, Timog ug ubang sook sa MM nga gipunsisokan sa mga tawo, nga nanayaw, namati sa music ug nag-inum pa. hahahaha

He he, naghisgot man gud to si Bay WN earlier nga ninganhi ang mga Bombay sa atoa long ago, mao nga nisal-ot pud kog Indian connection. Basin mainly artists and musicians to sila. ;D


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« Reply #158 on: October 21, 2009, 09:00:06 AM »
He he, naghisgot man gud to si Bay WN earlier nga ninganhi ang mga Bombay sa atoa long ago, mao nga nisal-ot pud kog Indian connection. Basin mainly artists and musicians to sila. ;D


aehehehhe. bitaw sa.

ang ako lang pod, kung daghang intsik naka-gamot diri, nganong wa may nakakat-on nato og Wushu? bisan na lang og manag-ing ba samtang nakakita sa mga intsik nagkamolong dupa-dupa ug sipa-sipa?

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« Reply #159 on: October 21, 2009, 09:08:54 AM »
aehehehhe. bitaw sa.

ang ako lang pod, kung daghang intsik naka-gamot diri, nganong wa may nakakat-on nato og Wushu? bisan na lang og manag-ing ba samtang nakakita sa mga intsik nagkamolong dupa-dupa ug sipa-sipa?

Ang Insik kay more or less bisan asang dapit sa Pinas man, pero ang mga Bombay, morag mas daghan man sa ato. Di ba daghan sa ato nga Bombay og nawong (Bombay pud og baho, bwahaha). Sa Cebu, for instance, where I lived for quite some time, mas dyutay man ang Bombay as a percentage of the general population.

Morag gitago sa mga Insik ang ilang naantigohan nga pangamot, sama nga ilang gitago ang ilang mga baje from the local male population. ;D

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