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How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« on: September 21, 2007, 07:55:06 AM »
By Joe Espiritu
Jagna-based Columnist
Bohol Sunday Post

The policy of provincial government of Bohol of luring Communist rebels back to the folds of the law is considered to be succeeding. The news says that the Philippines are thinking of adopting the program offered by the province to all the insurgents of the land. The move may succeed but certain adjustments must be made. Bohol conditions are different from the rest of the country and the rest of the world having Communist insurgency problems. History will attest to that.

The growth and spread of Communism succeeded in places where there is downtrodden peasantry. It never made inroads to in countries with strong economy. The Communist doctrine was first propounded by Karl Marx, a German of Jewish extraction living in England at the early stages of the Industrial Revolution.

Urban migration of peasants to large factories caused a social and economic upheaval. Labor was considered a commodity along with material and machinery.

Rapacious capitalists tried to limit labor costs and factory workers were living under appalling conditions. Labor on the other hand wanted better working conditions and equitable share of the proceeds. A proposed solution to the struggle was first proposed by Karl Marx in his book Das Kapital. This proposal was adopted by Vladimir Ilyitch Ulyanov later known as Nicolai Lenin to fit Russian conditions.

At time all resources of Russia was owned by the nobility, the people were called serfs, were considered property like land and farm animals. When the Industrial Revolution reached Russia, the nobility provided labor to factories funded by foreign capitalists. The living conditions of Russian labor were even worse than that in England. Russian peasants wholeheartedly accepted the Communist Manifesto, which proposed a classless state, absence of private property and a government of committees - soviets, of the people. An ensuing violent struggle exterminated the Russian nobility and the soviets reigned supreme.

At the end of the Spanish regime, central Luzon was ripe for Communism. Large tracts of Riceland were owned by landlords living in the cities. Unequal sharing of harvests, usurious rates of interests and lack of opportunities for upwards mobility made the farmer embrace Communism. The first years of the Third Philippine Republic marked the heyday of the Philippine Communism. However, a Defense Secretary of President Elpidio Quirino named Ramon Magsaysay who later became President broke the back of the communist movement. Disciplined armed forces, socio economic reforms plus irrigation and liberal banking facilities freed Central Luzon from rebellion, rebels fled to the hinterlands.

How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling. There are no large tracts of land owned by absentee landlords, no down trodden peasants, no agrarian troubles. Industry, frugality and intrepidity kept Boholanos debt free and for those who need loans, interests rates are reasonable. Upwards mobility can be attained for those who are willing to work for it. Our great Boholanos originally came from poor families.

In Bohol as elsewhere, aside from the army and law enforcement agents, there are three kinds of gun bearers; the bully, the bandit and the ideologue. Those who own firearms for self-defense do not show them openly. Because of bearable socio economic conditions, the ideologue of whatever variety would not flourish. Of course, there may be isolated cases but they could be easily neutralized. The Boholano amnesty offer may succeed in other places if it would be in form of a velvet glove which cover a steel gauntlet.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 10:17:33 AM »
the concept of communism and "rebellion" are two different things. it just happens they go together. the groups we have here in Bohol might have real reasons why they sway into the other side. poverty that is. if these groups "listen" to them, the poor are easily swayed to their side. thus, we have to listen to them as well, they might need something. on the other hand, there are those who are just "enjoined" by the group without really grabbing the real reasons like our children and youth.

poverty is not just the lack of land ownership, it also goes with the lack of potable water, lack of basic needs such as shelter, food, and clothing, lack of education, among many other things.

it is easy for us to enumerate what we lack and what we hoped for. however, it is difficult to address. anyhow, our government is pinpointing poverty as reasons for insurgency. and that's what the bohol poverty reduction management office (bprmo), for one, is trying to solve. the two-pronged approach of bprmo strikes both poverty and insurgency with the former as reason for the latter. solving the former may solve the latter and vice versa.

there are many reasons for poverty and all our efforts is geared towards solving such. population for one is one big reason for poverty. Problems of population begets problems with health, education, environment resources, pollution, and many others. Managing our population is one way of giving light to the problem of poverty. the commission on population, the united nations population fund along with the provincial health office, city and municipal health offices are advocating on Population-Health-Environment (PHE) among our people. these are intertwined issues that looks at poverty as a glaring fact among our people.

the groups on the other side need to know that someone cares about their situation. they need to know that the government cares, that the people in the NGOs care, that ordinary people care.   

however, our approach is not merely giving fish to the hungry but giving them fish along with fishnets and the 'manual' on fishing. community empowerment is the key term for community development.
 
poverty has many faces. each one of us is looking at it on different sides. thus, this is a journey we are all hoping to successfully trudge along. if you can do something, we enjoin you to be one of us in this journey! afterall, this is our home. this is our bohol.  :)




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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 10:43:13 AM »
^^ Great post, Mel!

I love your ending phrase "This is our home. this is our bohol." Great points and very vivid examples. Thanks for enlightening us on the internal demographics.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 11:43:16 AM »
Hello Bohol!!__Kumusta na kamung tanan diha sa bohol!, The other day I attended a parenting group, and we discussed about being a responsible father. its interesting that communisn seems to take a hold of our province again? why this time?, could it be that our economy is threatened or perhaps something or someone is behind this.--its very ironic that when an economy is doing so good things happen which sometimes shakes the system. You see the word communisn is " an economic system in which factories,farms,etc.,are owned in common by the workers,- and yet its also a revolutionary struggle towards the system. so i think we are again facing a spirit that is controlling the minds of people.We as a people in bohol must not tolerate this kind of spirit in people because it will again drag as down to the pit of economic recession. The only way it works is for us Boholona's,to stand together and rally not against but instead individually discipline ourselves to be resposible citizens and as a community help each other then maybe this spirit of communisn will go away. rey ylaya

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 11:54:12 AM »
i still think our insurgents do not fight for communism as karl marx or the russians and the chinese see it. they are just fighting for a piece of land to toil or for their basic rights and privileges to be addressed.

 

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 09:12:44 PM »
Interesting, well, i'll do more research on this tonight---ill give my view in coming days. Very interesting phenomenon tho, the birth and manifestation of communism in the Philippines.

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My analytical view of the Philippine-bred Communist Phenomena: Case Study
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2007, 01:21:20 AM »
First of all, I would like to thank Mike for bringing out this topic; the study of communist activities in Bohol and the Visayas—however as I was reading into the subject last night—I was addressed with the central question of : Who, where and why did this occur? And hence I read and studied the communist phenomenon in the Philippines. The following essay is a political histogram of the basis of communism in the Philippine Republic according to my view and from secondary sources that I’ve read:

During his visit to the United States in 1966, President Ferdinand E. Marcos of the Philippines declared a nationwide television interview that he knew “for a fact” that the recent resurgence of the Huk guerilla activity in his country was assisted by “agents” from Beijing. A year earlier, the Armed Forces of the Philippines intelligence had reported the discovery of military training centres in Bicol and the Visayas run by Chinese communists. According to the same report, some 3,000 Chinese subversives in the Philippines were working closely with the Huks. Philippine constabulary chief, Brig General Flavio Olivares, termed the threat posed by the Chinese Communist infiltrators as more serious that of the Huks. He noted that the lax enforcement of immigration laws facilitated the entry of Chinese communists and added that in recent years, some 1,000 Chinese had gone to China, ostensibly for sentimental reasons, but had come back to the Philippines as agents. Despite the frequently partisan and self-serving complexion of some official Philippine pronouncements on the communist danger, it is impossible today to discount the significance of communist activity in the Philippines or to minimize the related problem of illegal Chinese immigration.

I.   Growth of Philippine Communist Party

Communism was late in getting organized in the Philippines, although the brilliant Indonesian communist and Comintern organizer Tan Malakka had visited Manila as early as 1925 to rally radical nationalist sentiment. Not until the 1930s was (PKP) Partido Kommunista sa Pilipinas formally organized itself and that following year, declared that in “the present bourgeois democratic stage of the Philippine Revolution” as its aim were the ‘complete liberation and independence” of the Philippines from the Imperialist American Parasite, implementation of the agrarian revolution, implementation of radical improvement in the working and living conditions of the proletariat masses. One also needs to understand that during this time, there was an increase rise in Masonic lodges—which was deemed ‘incompatible with communist forces’.
Strikes and protests were rather common during this time. The economic depression of the early thirties and the sharp fall in the prices of principal crops like sugar, hemp, and rice as well as the pauperization of the Luzon tenant population, at first enhanced the party’s appeal (the PKP, that is). But after a few months membership still remained only at 2,500. The leadership was tactically unprepared for a co-ordinated revolutionary campaign; additionally, American-administered Philippines utilized repression that was swift; as well the main force of Philippine nationalism, which was reflected by the NP (Nationalista Party), seemed to pass by the PKP. The eventual outlawing of the party and imprisonment of most of its chief leaders within a year of its founding, seemed to many to have put a decisive crimp in the future development of the whole radical left.

But unlike the harried underground communists in Indonesia and Malaya of the 30’s, the PKP cadre remnant proved much more adaptable to united front tactics in time of stress (as is in the case of Philippine guerilliasm in times of war). Continuaing peasant unrest in central Luzon gave Philippine communism an enduringly useful tactical frame for agitation, and the founding of the Socialist party in ’33 gave it a definite front home. And the basis of : so long as there were hungry, angry members of the proletariat, there will be followers of communist ideology; longing for human retribution for their sufferings from those who were part of the ‘elitist borgeois’ as a scapegoat.

II.   Indonesia’s Influence

Intially, Indonesia provided the chief impetus for the resurgence of Philippine communist activity since the early 1960s. In the 1962-63, after the successful Indonesian campaign to aquire Dutch West New Guinea (Irian Jaya) and with rising influences of Indonesia Communist Party (PKI), collaboration between Greater Jakarta and Beijing to radicalize the political outlook of the new nations and align them both against the US and the USSR. Buttressed also by the official Indonesian mystique of a “Greater Indonesian State” (Indonesiaya Rajah) comprising of all Malay people in South East Asia including present day Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, the Philippines and southern Thailand. The PKI began to exert its own revolutionary and expansionist pressure, particularly in parts of Malaysia and the Philippines.

Evidently the Philippines fell within the projected “Greater Indonesian Malayapura Sphere”; while Philippine visitors to Sukarno’s palance might nervously laugh of his huage map of Southeast Asia with the Philippines apparently part of the Indonesian territory, the mounting evidence of Indonesian subversive and spying attempts in the Philippines was more difficult to ignore. The sizable community of Indonesian immigrants, many illegal (many now have been assimilated to Philippine society—or their descendents) in the Philippines. (Some 10-15,000 in Mindanao; about 3,000 in Davao Province alone), provided ideal cover for the penetration of Indonesian Communist agents. The chairman of the Philippine Senate’s Labour and Immigration Committee, after conducting extensive hearings in the course of 1964, described the Indonesian problem:

“The series of public hearings and closed session conducted last year by the senate labour and immigration committee, of which I have the honour of being the chairman, revelaed some startling information on the infiltration and underground activities of Indonesians in Mindanao, many of whom are hard-core communists. During the visit of Sukarno to the outlying islands of Sanguir, Las Palmas, Karakelang and Talud, between Celebes and Minanao, for instance, the inhabitants waved communist banners with the familiar hammer and sickle emblem. On Karakelang island close to davao, the PKI mantaintained a school for the training of Indonesian communist converts in the tactics of infiltration, propaganda, general intelligence work, and handling of various types of military weapons. This training centere is evidently like the Stalin University, which flourished in the Luzon at the height of the Huk movement.”

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It is without further disagreement that these random cases of communist advocates in the Visayas, Mindanao and Luzon are mere after-effects of the infiltration and influences of the PKI to the local populace in the Philippines with inherent pro-communist agenda. The phenomenon was eventually crushed in the Visayas, Luzon Mindanao by the Armed Forces of the Philippines (which also crushed rising pro-secessionist MILF/MNLF----thanks to Pres. Marcos for his hard-lined stance in wiping out the communist and pro-separatist muslims who were heavily influenced by the PKI), however, pockets of advocates still exist, and will continue to exist so long as there are members of the massa who continue to live in sub par human conditions, whose rights of citizenship have been ignored by government of the Philippines.

The main goal is assess these pro-communist advocates and take into consideration their wants and needs—so thereby public policy will include them—and evade further escalation of this communist phenomenon. We must also remember and know that all problems in the Philippines either it be communism, rising waves of islamofascism are directly related to the political and religious discourse of our neighbours outright: Indonesia, China, Malaysia and the United States.

Policy must take these into consideration. That is my humble view.

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Disclaimer: This is my own view, and a view that has been supported by research, to know where I recieved the information in this essay, please visit these sources:

"Meet the Press,"
originating in New York City, September 18, 1966

 The Manila Times, September 28, 1965.

Renze L. Hoeksema, Com-
munism in the Philippines: a Historical and Analytical Study of Communism and
the Communist Party in the Philippines and its Relations to Communist Movements
Abroad (unpublished Ph.D. Thesis, Department of Government, Harvard University,
Cambridge, Mass., 1956)

Antonio S. Araneta Jr., The Communist Party of the
Philippines and the Comintern, 1919 to 1930 (unpublished Ph.D. Thesis, Oxford
University, 1966)


Supreme Court of the Philippines, Term-1933, Crisanto Evange-
lista, et al., versus the People of the Philippine Islands. On Petition for Writ of
Certiorari to the Supreme Court of the Philippine Islands (Manila, 1933)

S. Carpio, " First Congress of the Communist Party of the Philippines," Inmprecorr,
June 25, 1931, pp. 603-604

George Weightman, The Chinese Community in the Philippines (unpublished M.A
Thesis, University of the Philippines, 1952), p. 139.

Manila in
1946, entitled "The Peasant War in the Philippines. A Study of the Causes of
Social Unrest in the Philippines-an Analysis of Philippine Political Economy,"
reprinted in Philippine Social Sciences and Humanities Review, XXIII, nos. 2-4, 1958,
pp. 373-436

Napoleon G.
Rama, "Who Are Sabotaging the Land Reform Program," Philippines Free Press,
July 9, 1966, pp. 3, 68, 69


(This essay is a product of 4-5 hours of research in the library---my apologies if i didnt have time to spell check)




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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 01:54:43 AM »
My comment on the Bohol-based communist insurgency is banal; Melrose perfectly addressed the situation by utilizing the figurative language of "our approach is not merely giving fish to the hungry but giving them fish along with fishnets." There in lies the basis of how policy should be followed. Simply because there are unaddressed poor people within the four corners of the Philippines (including the province of Bohol), solving the problems of the status quo regarding poverty levels cannot be easily reconciled by merely providing capital for those afflicted. By doing so would only appease the mass via a short term basis, as what Melrose clearly indicated. Rather, Philippine public policy as well as economic policy should reign in investment in underdeveloped communities so thereby, provides jobs, finance and equity for those in present economic disparaties. The alleviation of the masses requires employment, education for their children, and sustainability of growth--which is the manifestation and epitome of a long term fix to the current problem, which I'm sure Melrose is pointing out by the emphasis of 'fishnets'. Governmental intervention should and must implement long term fixes, if it plans to appease the poor in these said regions, and thereby tactically fight the phenomenon of communism.

To conjugate this problem, communism is a 'poor man's ideology'. It is the basis of the proletariat for a eutopiac society, by in which in all reality, the political scientists of th world conclude its innate failure to succeed. Case studies of the rise and fall of the USSR and other soviet satellite states address this: with excemption of the PRC and Vietnam as these self proclaimed 'communist' regimes have already violated the innate core communist philosophy as they have already accepted and utilized capitalism and growth of their own bourgeois.

Fallacy or truth? Take it as you will.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2007, 12:37:55 AM »
In my own simple analysis, I don’t believe they are communists. They are only labeled as such.

Communistic anarchism aims to abolish private property and political government, while the so called communists in the Philippines are more on anti-west, social justice and social reforms. I don’t even see a link between our so called communists and China or other communist countries in terms of ideology. Not even a descendant of the HUKs.

I called them the neo-socialists and I don’t believe they are linked to Jose Maria Sison, the former leader of CPP who is in exile years back.

It is the presently wide gap between the haves and not haves and the unequal treatment of previous regimes that caused this social anarchy. We are actually coming back to the days of Robin Hood.

I do not label them as poor but individuals who are direct victims of oppression, injustice, and unfair practices of previous & present regime that personally affected their lives as individuals. An individual struggle that formed into a group. They are the ones who find hope through arms and revenge.

As far as I remembered, insurgency in Bohol peaked during the mid 80’s when thousands of farmers/residents were forced to evacuate due to the submerging of 3-4 barangays for the Pilar Dam project and there were no just compensations for the affected.

An average person would not dare to live in hiding, hardships and danger for a mere ideology. However, these people had chosen the last option they knew after losing faith to the one who is supposed to be protecting them, the government.

Therefore, the only way to stop insurgency is to have, a massive overhaul in our government system and the people operating them. A social revolution initiated inside the government itself.

Sorry for my simple English.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2007, 02:01:52 AM »
Miss Melrose, your post was spot-on. I agree with you a hundred percent. Bohol is poor. I mean, maybe 95% of the population, pobre. As a person who belongs to a family that has migrated to other parts of the country, in search of a better life, I see the difference...sa standards of living. I often ask the Bol-anons I know, "nganong ning bakwit man mo dire sa Mindanao?"...their answer, "day, perteng lisora sa Bohol. Lisod mangita ug panginabuhian".

There are not enough jobs to go around. The agriculture industry is antiquated. There's not enough commerce. There are not enough businesses. There is not enough industrialization.

When I go to Bohol, I feel the poverty. I see the people in the barrios, and I feel the deprivation in their lives. I see the Bol-anons in Mindanao (Bukidnon in particular, where I migrated  :)), and they are all engaged in businesses, small and medium-scale. They work in different areas...sa mga humayan, mga maisan, mga tubohan, sa mga binggalahan, sa mga pinyahan. There is also enough trade and commerce, nga ang tawo dili mawad-an ug panginabuhian.

Of course, dili man makumpara gyud because Mindanao is one giant land area of inter-connected provinces, while Bohol stands on its own. Pero sa ako lang na obserbahan, the main thing that revitalizes an area's economy is the trade and commerce amongst its people. Ang mga negosyo sa mga tawo. And there is really not enough of that to sustain the people of Bohol right now.

And how to solve this? I don't know.

Let the politicians figure that one out. After all, they're the ones with the fancy schmancy degrees and titles. Mga maayong laki.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2007, 02:40:56 AM »
In my own simple analysis, I don’t believe they are communists. They are only labeled as such.

Communistic anarchism aims to abolish private property and political government, while the so called communists in the Philippines are more on anti-west, social justice and social reforms. I don’t even see a link between our so called communists and China or other communist countries in terms of ideology. Not even a descendant of the HUKs.

I called them the neo-socialists and I don’t believe they are linked to Jose Maria Sison, the former leader of CPP who is in exile years back.

It is the presently wide gap between the haves and not haves and the unequal treatment of previous regimes that caused this social anarchy. We are actually coming back to the days of Robin Hood.

I do not label them as poor but individuals who are direct victims of oppression, injustice, and unfair practices of previous & present regime that personally affected their lives as individuals. An individual struggle that formed into a group. They are the ones who find hope through arms and revenge.

As far as I remembered, insurgency in Bohol peaked during the mid 80’s when thousands of farmers/residents were forced to evacuate due to the submerging of 3-4 barangays for the Pilar Dam project and there were no just compensations for the affected.

An average person would not dare to live in hiding, hardships and danger for a mere ideology. However, these people had chosen the last option they knew after losing faith to the one who is supposed to be protecting them, the government.

Therefore, the only way to stop insurgency is to have, a massive overhaul in our government system and the people operating them. A social revolution initiated inside the government itself.


Sorry for my simple English.

Powerful statement, Mr. Ferniz. Agreed.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2007, 02:46:38 AM »
Miss Melrose, your post was spot-on. I agree with you a hundred percent. Bohol is poor. I mean, maybe 95% of the population, pobre. As a person who belongs to a family that has migrated to other parts of the country, in search of a better life, I see the difference...sa standards of living. I often ask the Bol-anons I know, "nganong ning bakwit man mo dire sa Mindanao?"...their answer, "day, perteng lisora sa Bohol. Lisod mangita ug panginabuhian".

There are not enough jobs to go around. The agriculture industry is antiquated. There's not enough commerce. There are not enough businesses. There is not enough industrialization.

When I go to Bohol, I feel the poverty. I see the people in the barrios, and I feel the deprivation in their lives. I see the Bol-anons in Mindanao (Bukidnon in particular, where I migrated  :)), and they are all engaged in businesses, small and medium-scale. They work in different areas...sa mga humayan, mga maisan, mga tubohan, sa mga binggalahan, sa mga pinyahan. There is also enough trade and commerce, nga ang tawo dili mawad-an ug panginabuhian.

Of course, dili man makumpara gyud because Mindanao is one giant land area of inter-connected provinces, while Bohol stands on its own. Pero sa ako lang na obserbahan, the main thing that revitalizes an area's economy is the trade and commerce amongst its people. Ang mga negosyo sa mga tawo. And there is really not enough of that to sustain the people of Bohol right now.

And how to solve this? I don't know.

Let the politicians figure that one out. After all, they're the ones with the fancy schmancy degrees and titles. Mga maayong laki.

Case in point. Exactly the reason why I am a firm believer and proponent of the modernization and investment of the province. It is easy for foreigners and oversees Filipinos who are already established in the states (me included) to decry the industrialization of Bohol for fear of 'ruining the ecological summit, th beauty etc). It is easy for us, the foreigners, to say this because we come to the island for recreational uses, for retirement stay etc. However, the vast majority of the Boholanos are still in economic disparity. Many are turned to a life of crime because of the lack of jobs in the province, that is why by titilating investors to build infrastructure and resorts etc, it will ease the problem by providing jobs for the average Boholano. You and I can post all day long in here, but in the end, I know that I dont have to strive to survive as many of my Boholano compatriots---who are starving and in need of jobs. I recognize this---and I know that many of them welcome investors, welcome jobs etc. I feel for them.

I can only hope and pray that more businesses come to Bohol, to spur economic growth.

That is my honest and plain view.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2007, 02:32:34 PM »
Bohol is a rich province in terms of natural (and human) resources. What we lack are the means (and ideas?) to use them for something good. Dili pobre ang Bol-anon. Daghan tag-katigayunan. Wala lang nato nagamit og tarong.

example lang. kining tuba-tuba. abi natog tambal lang sa panuhot apan dako diay ni siyag demand sa gawas as ingredients for bio-diesel. karon, dako ang demand sa atong probinsya niini. ang tuba-tuba maoy atong paningkamotan na matanom sa mga tao. dili man ni siya hago padak-on.

ang atong mga tao bisan pobre, anaa may matam-an pa. as someone pointed out dire, walay "landed" landlords diri sa bohol compared sa ubang lalawigan. salamat ni francisco sendrijas! dili lang humay ang pwede itanom, daghan man. ang atong mga tao ni antos lang sila ug pananom og bugas kay mao pa may ilang nahibaw-an pod. kung tagaan sila og laing itanom nga mas dali, mas barato ang pamaagi, ug dako ang demand, mas maayo gyud. 
 
I'd like to point out pod na dili lang trabaho sa politico ang pagpalambo sa atong lalawigang bol-anon. ato ning tanan. sila, nagpa-alig alig man og serbisyo sa mga tao, ato silang sukmatan. apan ato pod silang tabangan.

ang simbahan, ang mga civic organizations, NGOs, POs...daghan mang nagtambayayong. dili man nato makuha ang kalambuan dayon apan dako gyud ang ipekto sa "bayanian spirit!"

dako man o gamay atong matabang, basta nitabang ta. og akong gi-awhang ang tanan sa pagtabang sa atong lalawigan.

on the other side of the coin... kini ang pungot huna-hunaon.

our people have lands. bisan gamay, matamnan man unta pod. atong mga tao, gahi man pod og mga ulo. kinahanglan dukdokon pa pod. if they can just plant camote in their backyard, plant kamunggay, or any sa ilang nataran, mabuhi na man sila. atong mga tao pod kay wala man poy buhaton samtang naghuwat sa ilang humay. og makakwarta na pod gamay, ipalit pod og bahalina. our people need behavior change.)

and we also need to take pride of what we have. didto sa china, specialty gyud nila ang paw. sa atoa, kung mag-serve og paw moingon noon og "pasensya na kay paw ra gyud ang among mabayang." mauwaw kung kamunggay o camote ra ang gikaon. dili man angay ika-uwaw ang grasya.

sige uy. ari sa ako.




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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2007, 03:32:57 PM »
Salamat sa imong post, Miss Melrose.

Daghan ka'g mga puntos nga wala nako na huna hunaan before nga karon medyo ako nang nasabtan.

Pero nag wonder lang ko usahay ngano nga ang mga bol-anon, kung molangyaw na sa laing mga probinsya, mouswag man gyud sila? Butang nga wala nila nabuhat samtang nag estar pa sila sa atong probinsya?

Could it be nga mawala atong pagka tapulan kung maka abot ta sa laing lugar? Or could it be, tungod kay komportable na kaayo ta sa atong yutang natawhan, wala na ta'y effort nga manikay sikay?

Or siguro, tsamba lang gyud? Ang mga bol-anon nga ning uswag outside of Bohol, na suertehan lang gyud?

Sakto pud ka sa imong pag ingon nga kining atong pag dahum sa kalamboan, dapat tambayayong ta tanan. Wala man gud ko'y ma suggest nga idea, mao na akong gipasa sa mga politicos. They're convenient targets, if we could blame the weather on the politicians, we would.

Pero mo agree gyud ko nga ang kauswagan sa usa ka tawo, nag depende ra gyud na niya. Dili nato mabasol nga tungod wala'y job openings/hirings, or tungod sa ka pobrehon. Daghan man mga tawo ba nga ning uswag gikan sa kapobrehon sa kaugalingon nilang pagpa ningkamot. Galing lang, ang kada tawo lain lain ug approach unsaon pagpangita ug kuarta. Ang uban molangyaw, ang uban manulis, ang uban molansar. Lahi Lahi gyud ug style.

With regards to the topic, na puzzle pud ko bahin anang gi ingon nga komunismo sa Bohol. Growing up in Sagbayan, nakakita ko'g mga NPA once or twice. Ambot unsa'y sinugdanan ani nila. Pero mo salvage man kuno ni sila ug corrupt officials. Nakakita pud ko sa una ug tulo ka tawo didto sa health center nga gipatay sa mga NPA, kato kunong mga tawhana, naay mga gi daug2x nga mga tawo. So siguro, the NPA is against anyone who seems to be oppressing the people.

Pero sakto pud nang imo Miss Melrose, nga ang mga tawo puede man maka tanom ug kamote, balanghoy, kamunggay. Mabuhi naman unta. Ang mga taga Papua New Guinea man gani, ga kutkot ra ug ubi, wala'y kuryente, ga bahag ra sila, unya daghan pa gyud lamok nga maka malaria, malipayon man sila sa ilang kahimtang. Pero ang mga pilipino man pud kay gusto man gud pud maka cellphone nga naay camera, gusto mokaon sa Jollibee, gusto motan-aw ug sine kung starring na si Judy Ann ug Piolo, gusto mo sakay ug aircon nga V-Hire kay mosuroy sa Alturas...unya kung dili ni nila makab-ot, maong mo reklamo sa ilang ka pobrehon.

Maybe we need to re-define our view on happiness. Maybe our public servants need to start programs that remind our people the value of simplicity, that eating kamote with ginamos is not necessarily a bad thing.




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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2007, 03:55:44 PM »
Reading all your profound insights here has boosted a runaway dream of compiling all our Tubag Bohol comments/insights into a book. Let's start with Volume 1.

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2007, 04:42:55 PM »
Mr Admin,

unaha sa ug compile imong mga balak into a book of poetry...

Miss Bambs and I want to get our grubby hands on the very first copies...

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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2007, 06:33:50 PM »
Murag academic ra kaayo ni nga topic pero daghan kaayog input from different points of view.

It seems that it is only at TB that there is open and level discourse--from the proletariat to the bourgeois to the elite (Am I seeing 20-20 through your username smokescreens?)

I do agree that Bohol's communism is not as deeply entrenched in ideology as in most other places where there is either a huge peasantry or an industrial working class base.

Even stripped of Marxist language (which is incomprehensible to the masses anyway), the pitch of "classless society" has a universal appeal. Communism will always find adherents not only where there is poverty, but more importantly where there is glaring disparity between the haves and have-nots.

I do agree with Melrose that "communism" should not be equated with "rebellion." Not all communist movements espouse armed struggle.

You might be surprised that in this post-Cold War era, Japan, whose economy is second only to the US, has one of the biggest Communist Party memberships in the world at almost half a million. The Communist Party in Japan is legal, and would you believe, still chalks up 10 percent of votes in any election, though the figure is diminishing.

Perhaps, we can learn a thing or two from Japan. For as long as our legal system continues to demonize and criminalize Communism, we will simply give credence to the Communist ideologists' propaganda of the irreconcilable interests and therefore inevitable armed conflict between the Establishment elite and the masses.

Violence, whether based on ideology or not, is criminal. So if communists use force to achieve their end of a classless society, they will have to be dealt with by police or military force.

In Japan's post-war experience, Communism was defanged by simply arraying it among the other political ideas that free people can choose from. Socio-economic programs to eliminate poverty, as Melrose had pointed out, made hardcore Communism (the exponents of armed struggle) largely irrelevant and obsolete without the use of force.

Bohol's vaunted success in Communist anti-insurgency campaign may still be threatened if the government slackens its efforts in alleviating poverty.

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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2007, 07:06:09 PM »
Easier said than done. Allow me to venture some concrete suggestions.

I agree with Lorenzo that we need investments from outside. But I believe we need to direct our investments to areas that will jibe with Bohol's natural endowments, which also constitute its comparative advantage (pardon for being repetitive, as I mentioned this in another thread).

Personally, I believe that the government should steer Bohol towards economic growth with the service sector at its core. This encompasses a wide-ranging, diverse industry that can optimize Bohol's employment.

Ben here has blazed the trail for those in the IT sector. I really pray that he succeeds--given the presumably lower overhead and availability of quality workers.

With the upgrade of Bohol's telecom infrastructure, we can invite the burgeoning Call Center industry to Tagbi. Among call center operators that I know whose market is Japan, it is common knowledge that Visayans have a higher sales productivity among telemarketers because Visayans are a predominant segment of the 250,000 target market (I assume we have the same regional profile in other overseas market). Visayans are born polyglots, so they can also be easily trained in American accent to service the world's largest economy.

Bohol's tourism industry should generate a lot of employment with more market-tailored product offerings overseas. Bohol has lately been given a lot of exposure in Japan's TV, but our linkages to Japan's travel industry that will realize mass tourist traffic from this plum market are still rudimentary.

These are just some of the ideas. I hope those of us involved in planning and decision-making in Bohol will take these up.



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Re: How Communism gained a foothold in Bohol is puzzling
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2007, 01:03:57 AM »
Easier said than done. Allow me to venture some concrete suggestions.

I agree with Lorenzo that we need investments from outside. But I believe we need to direct our investments to areas that will jibe with Bohol's natural endowments, which also constitute its comparative advantage (pardon for being repetitive, as I mentioned this in another thread).

Personally, I believe that the government should steer Bohol towards economic growth with the service sector at its core. This encompasses a wide-ranging, diverse industry that can optimize Bohol's employment.

Ben here has blazed the trail for those in the IT sector. I really pray that he succeeds--given the presumably lower overhead and availability of quality workers.

With the upgrade of Bohol's telecom infrastructure, we can invite the burgeoning Call Center industry to Tagbi. Among call center operators that I know whose market is Japan, it is common knowledge that Visayans have a higher sales productivity among telemarketers because Visayans are a predominant segment of the 250,000 target market (I assume we have the same regional profile in other overseas market). Visayans are born polyglots, so they can also be easily trained in American accent to service the world's largest economy.

Bohol's tourism industry should generate a lot of employment with more market-tailored product offerings overseas. Bohol has lately been given a lot of exposure in Japan's TV, but our linkages to Japan's travel industry that will realize mass tourist traffic from this plum market are still rudimentary.

These are just some of the ideas. I hope those of us involved in planning and decision-making in Bohol will take these up.



Mr. Ben, I like your idea of utilizing and implementing IT growth in Bohol and central Visayas. It would save the ecological greeneries of Bohol, yet bring in foreign investment. And why shouldn't it? The Philippines and the Filipino is world reknown for his keen ability to master English, his itelligence and his work ethic. An IT company in Bohol would employ hundreds of our intelligentsia, bring well earned income, and increase the international awareness of Philippine dependability, as well as keep our environment green and clean.

What bohol needs to do is to gear towards a service oriented economy.

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