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Happy Fiesta
« on: December 08, 2008, 12:11:47 PM »
Baclayon,  the oldest town of Bohol celebrates its town fiesta today, Dec. 8,  of the Immaculae Conception of the blessed Virgin Mary.

Happy Fiesta..

What is the immaculate conception?

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Question: "What is the immaculate conception?"

Answer: Many people mistakenly believe that the immaculate conception refers to the conception of Jesus Christ. Jesus’ conception was most assuredly immaculate…but this concept does not refer to Jesus at all. The immaculate conception is a doctrine of the Romans Catholic Church in regards to Mary, Jesus’ mother. An official statement of the doctrine reads, “…the blessed Virgin Mary to have been, from the first instant of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God, in view of the merits of Christ Jesus the Savior of Mankind, preserved free from all stain of original sin.” Essentially the immaculate conception is the belief that Mary was protected from original sin, that Mary did not have a sin nature, and was, in fact, sinless.

The problem with the doctrine of the immaculate conception is that it is not taught in the Bible. The Bible nowhere describes Mary as anything but an ordinary human female whom God chose to be the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ. Mary was undoubtedly a godly woman (Luke 1:28). Mary was surely a wonderful wife and mother. Jesus definitely loved and cherished His mother (John 19:27). The Bible gives us no reason to believe that Mary was sinless. In fact, the Bible gives us every reason to believe that Jesus Christ is the only Person who was not “infected” by sin and never committed a sin (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 2:22; 1 John 3:5).

The doctrine of the immaculate conception originated out of confusion over how Jesus Christ could be born sinless if He was conceived inside of a sinful human female. The thought was that Jesus would have inherited a sinful nature from Mary had she been a sinner. In contrast to the immaculate conception, the Biblical solution to this problem is understanding that Jesus Himself was miraculously protected from being polluted by sin while He was inside Mary's womb. If God was capable of protecting Mary from sin, would He not be able to protect Jesus from sin? Therefore, Mary being sinless is neither necessary or Biblical.

The Roman Catholic Church argues that the immaculate conception is necessary because without it, Jesus would have been the object of His own grace. The thought goes like this – for Jesus to have been miraculously preserved from sin, which itself would be an act of grace, that would mean God essentially “graced Himself.” The word grace means “unmerited favor.” Grace is giving someone something he or she does not deserve. God performing a miracle in preserving Jesus from sin is not “grace.” In no sense could Jesus possibly be infected with sin. He was perfect and sinless humanity joined with sinless divinity. God cannot be infected or affected by sin, as He is perfectly holy. This same truth applies to Jesus. It did not take “grace” to protect Jesus from sin. Being God incarnate, Jesus was in His essence “immune” from sin.

So, the doctrine of the immaculate conception is neither Biblical or necessary. Jesus was miraculously conceived inside Mary, who was a virgin at the time. That is the Biblical concept of the virgin birth. The Bible does not even hint that there was anything significant about Mary’s conception. If we examine this concept logically, Mary’s mother would have to be immaculately conceived as well. How could Mary be conceived without sin if her mother was sinful? The same would have to be said of Mary’s grandmother, great-grandmother, and so on. So, in conclusion, the immaculate conception is not a Biblical teaching. The Bible teaches the miraculous virgin conception of Jesus Christ, not the immaculate conception of Mary.
 

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 12:36:40 PM »
bay, pari ka? mura man gud daghan kag postings diri about catholicism/christianity. it just amazed. thanks.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 12:38:31 AM »
pista sad ron sa catigbian. dungan na sila sa baclayon. hahay, gimingaw nako sa adobong kabaw ug kilawin didto da.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 07:03:43 AM »
december 8 is also the feast day of sierra-bullones.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 08:00:19 AM »
Diri sa Davao ang pinakadako nga celebratiion sa Immaculate Conception, ang
lungsod sa Bansalan. Holiday ang Dec. 8,  town fiesta. Bibo kaayo kay naa gyud
ang away sa kabayo.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 08:43:49 AM »
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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 09:08:08 AM »
Wala sa ato ang away sa kabayo, Diri ra sa Mindanao. Ang duha ka kabayo ibutang sa dakong hawan nga walay koral. Magdala   ug  baye nga kabayo.Kon makakita na ang mga laki, moduol dayon kay gusto mohabal, unya mag-away na sila. Ipalayo dayon ang baye. Ang mapildi ang modagan. Moabot sa 30 minutes ang away.

Mao kana ang mga highlight sa mg pista diri sa Davao, naa ang away sa kabayo
labi na diri sa Davao Del Sur.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 09:14:12 AM »
thanks fdaray. magpaaway nya ko sa valencia inig ka-mayor nako.. lol

sauna sa panahon ni mayor plinio lim murag dihay gukod ug kabaw sa valencia..

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 10:50:29 PM »
lagot ra ba kaayo ang PETA aning klase sa paaway. kay ang mga mananap kuno gihimo pa jud nga mananap kay ipaaway, pustahan, kataw-an nya ang sila ra pud ang mangabungi. malalim mo nang maigo ka sa patid sa kabayo. kakita naman ko ani sa una, luoy bitaw kaayo. kita lagi ka ug kabayo nga makuyapan.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 12:17:29 AM »
a horse fight is a source of traditional entertainment among the various ethnic communities in mindanao during festivals and other special occasions in the same way cock fighting is to the visayans. naa pud pustahanay. but unlike cock fighting where the contest ends when one of the cocks gets its guts slashed open, horses that are involved in fights get away from game in one piece. it's not as violent as animal activists picture it to be... speaking of animal activists, maayo na sila ipa paak ug stray nga irong bu****.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 07:21:00 AM »
PETA has been demanding  for ages to stop bull fighting in Spain, but to no avail.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 08:08:45 AM »
na man nindot sad nabuhat ang mga animal activists bolingitboy.. grabeha pud ng ipapaak ug stray nga irong bu**** bolingitboy.. luoy pud..

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2008, 09:39:52 PM »
figure of speech lang to, calle. i do acknowledge that there are some things that they have done for animals. it's just that i find this group to be reactive in their initiatives. they have no proactive program as far as i know. i mean, everywhere in th philippines, you will find stray dogs that patrol the streets like they are the police. we all know very well that stray dogs are potential carriers of rabies and rabies is still present in a lot of places in this country. PETA should be doing something about this problem. they can work with DOH to institute programs that keep dogs from roamaing the streets and keep human population against the deadly effects of rabies. let us remember that there is no treatment for rabies. once you have it, then it's going to be the end of the road for you. that is how important keeping our streets free of stray dogs is. PETA should be doing this kind of meaningful work.


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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 01:10:07 AM »
unsa ra many gamit sa anti-rabies vaccine kung dili na mawala ang rabies once mataptan ka ani after being bitten by a carrier dog or any animals with rabies?

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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 03:24:28 AM »
anti-rabies vaccine only works if administered a few days after a potential exposure to an animal suspected to be carrying rabies. exposure can be through a bite or licking by animal on human's exposed skin. this is because rabies resides in the saliva of a rabid animal. technically, you don't get rabies if you get wounded by a rabid dog's scratch using his paws. rabies, once introduced in the body travels very slowly (approximately 3 mm a day) from the site of wound to the brain. this is the reason why the time element involved in the appearance of symptoms varies. sometimes it takes weeks, sometimes a month or so. if the site of wound is in the extremities, it takes a longer time for the symptoms to appear compared to when the site of wound is in the neck because it is much closer to the brain. it is when the rabies virus reach the brain when the symptoms appear. and when the symtoms begin to appear, then that is the end of you.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2008, 03:30:11 AM »
anti-rabies vaccine is effective only when administered while the virus is in transit between the site of wound and the brain. once the virus reaches the brain and there was no vaccine introduced in the body, onset of symptoms is certain to follow and there will be no more turning back.

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2008, 12:17:29 PM »
sounds like another doctor in the making tong si bolingitboy..

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 01:17:06 PM »
basig nabiktima na na siya sa rabies sa una.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 09:58:40 PM »
well, napaakan kog iro sa una. then, i made a research para kabalo ko how to manage animal bites. many people take this disease for granted but if you think about it, it is very deadly. there is no room for error. kung mupalpak kag ka usa, there won't be no next time.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 11:32:09 PM »
bolingitboy, thanks for the additional information.

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2008, 10:12:17 AM »
by the way, since im a practicing catholic, i've attended eucharistic celebrations wherein the immaculate conception issue was discussed in the homily. my point is that the catholic church does not in any way deceive the faithful. 

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2008, 05:59:43 AM »
you're welcome, bnc... am always glad to share what i know :-)

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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2009, 02:59:51 PM »
Hello mangutana lang unta ko ug naa bay family Estampa na taga Baclayon nga ga basa aning akong sulat.. Akong mama Estampa.. pwede reply pls... dugay na wala ka anha akong mama.....

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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2009, 03:07:07 PM »
mga estampa kuno hoy,,, reply mo

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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2009, 03:48:04 PM »
Calle , Immaculate Conception is one of the mytery of our faith just like the Trinity, so pray that you get the grace of understanding and accepting what our faith teaches. Amen

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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2009, 11:46:32 AM »
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Re: Happy Fiesta
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2012, 08:41:10 PM »
Happy pista diha sa Baclayon karon, DEc 8, 2012. ??????

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