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Do you think the Philippines would be better off as the 51st state of the United States?

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The question has been asked time and time again by Filipinos as well as Americans.

And I thought about it actually during a talk I had with some of my friends this week. It is undeniable that the standard of living in the United States of America is one of the highest in the western world; being the Only Hyper Power of the world and the greatest economic power to ever exist, this cannot be denied.

So the question is, would it be better had the Philippines been matriculated and assimilated in the United States of America; made into the 51st state?

I talked about this with friends; and I have a friend who is Puerto Rican, who voiced out his opposition to it; claiming that the Philippines would loose its nationhood. But I also voiced out to Fernando, a friend, that Puerto Rico itself benefits from America.

He remarked, "But Puerto Rico isn't an American state."

And i replied him, "Yes, but it is an American territory; with all Puerto Ricans given American citizenship. Are exempt from taxation from America, enjoy the American dollar and billions of dollars of investment and American military protection. With all Puerto Ricans given the rights as any American citizen. "

He did not answer back. And he knows this is true.

Puerto Rico, like the Philippines and Cuba, were one of the possessions that was lost to the United States from Spain during the Spanish-American War of 1898.

I just wonder how the Philippines would be like had it become the 51st state or a territory of the United States.

I mean think about it, these are things to been considered:

1) All Filipinos would be given American citizenship, and rights as all Americans under the constitution of the United States

2) The Philippines would be the target of massive American investments; to develop the islands; educational growth, logistic growth per se domestic infrastructure; tourism; natural resources etc.

3) A good percentage of the American population would be of 'Filipino' ancestry. Filipinos would actually be a major ethnic group of American society.

4) The Philippines, by right of statehood, would be enjoy higher standard of living and cost of life as compared to its neighbours.

5) Military umbrella. As a state, no nation would dare step on Philippine soil; as it would be 'American' soil.

6) Filipinos would have free range to travel; and to move to any state or territory of the United States of America.



What do you guys think? Your views?


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di ba diay ang Puerto Rico?
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I really don't know.

I am patriotic, but on the other hand I saw suffering, corruption, high cost of education, scam, malnutrition, etc.

Just imagine what would be the scenario, should the Philippines became the 51st State. Perhaps I would visit my causins in Michigan this weekend and drop by at Bella's mansion, ride a Greyhound to SF, to have sikwati  breakfast with Grazie, Hapon & meet their relative Sigfried my classmate for a drink. Then proceed to my brother in Long Beach for a fishing and kinilaw.
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I really don't know.

I am patriotic, but on the other hand I saw suffering, corruption, high cost of education, scam, malnutrition, etc.

Just imagine what would be the scenario, should the Philippines became the 51st State. Perhaps I would visit my causins in Michigan this weekend and drop by at Bella's mansion, ride a Greyhound to SF, to have sikwati  breakfast with Grazie, Hapon & meet their relative Sigfried my classmate for a drink. Then proceed to my brother in Long Beach for a fishing and kinilaw.

Hahahah busy body kaayo ka, Macks!  But yes, Murage and I and Hapon and Kim, Smiffy and my aunt and uncle would love to have you as our guest and your family too.  By the way, Siegfred is in Manila PAL office. 
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Abi nako naa diha si Sig. The last time I saw him is 1996 when my Visa was expired and I have to travel to Manila for extension. I saw him with a white pilot's uniform inspecting some cargo. We just wave hands kay busy siya and on duty.
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Just like Macky, I am also patriotic but I think it could have been better for Filipinos to be part of the United States of America with the benefits Dodong Bran enumerated below.  Most opponents of having Philippines as part of the USA are still pride-driven.  Pride, that to my opinion is misguided.  We have been freed from being colonized by Spain and yet we are still slaves to our old system of palakasan that further led to corruption.  These opponents hate America and yet they brag about having been to America and have clothings and buy products that are "stateside". 
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yup...ok nga yan...kaso mawalan ng makurakot ang gobyerno..lolzz
ngano walay corruption sa USA?

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Abi nako naa diha si Sig. The last time I saw him is 1996 when my Visa was expired and I have to travel to Manila for extension. I saw him with a white pilot's uniform inspecting some cargo. We just wave hands kay busy siya and on duty.

Macks, naa pa diha sa Manila si Sig.  Ning anhi lang to sya para magbakasyon.  Tigpauli man pod yata na sya'g Bohol.  Free man na ilang fare sa plane unya naa pod na sila free international flights.
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ngano walay corruption sa USA?



awww naa dia pod didto?...at least d kaau grabe tingali ...hehe..luoy atong mga politiko ani,mga puti na ang mo kurakot...haha

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Sakto ka Mel. Dili malikayan naa gihapon ang kurakot sa America apan once nga masakpan, lagpot dayon sa katungdanan. So dili grabe ang kurakot.

Permi nag kinto ang mga public servant sa US. Bisan gamay nga bikil lagpot dayon, bisan na sayop lang siya sa sulti. Even past mistakes can be used to overthrow a person in public service.
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ajo pa kay pinas kay no.1 na baja mga corrupt country
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Originally, I was against Philippine assimilation into the United States of America, for nationhood sake. But as time wore on and as I am exposed at the seemingly hopeless situation on the ground in terms of political liability and economic woes in the Philippines; I became rather interested in the possibilities had the Philippines been assimilated.

The Filipino people would never have to fear 'job losses' or economic woes due to excess population due to the presence of the welfare system here in the United States. If a family is under economic woes; they would be eligible for welfare support by the United States government, which will provide for the given family.

No child, no Filipino child would be limited due to his or her economic status. Education is universal and mandated by the American Eagle.

Even if one is born poor; he or she, by right of intelligence would be able to attend high school, college, graduate schools (medical, law, graduate) by use of collegiate loans, which they would be entitled to pay after graduation. Nonetheless, the opportunities is there.

Standard of living would be high! I have visited Guam, Puerto Rico before and all these territories are American territory. Standard of living there is extremely high. A result of American 'territoryhood'. Can you imagine had the Philippines become a state?

The Philippines itself is a massive archipelago; and would have been divided into probably a good 5-10 states.

And the Filipino population of 92 Million people. This would have been our advantage, being part of the United States.

Think about it; right now there are 300 million Americans. 70% of Americans are White-Caucasians; 12.5% are Latino; 12.5% are African Black and the rest are Asian or mixed ancestry.

Had the Philippines been part of the United States, the Filipino ethnicity would be a majority in American society; almost equal in number as that of White-Americans.

This is power. This means more representatives in the House of Representatives in US Congress for Philippine State(s). This means power and number of influence in the American Senate!

By this right; within a mere 3-5 decades, there would be a considerable amount of Americans who are either fully Filipino or have Filipino ancestry.

With this, being 'Filipino' would be the same as being 'American'. Two in One. Similar to China's '2 governments but 1 country' system.

One can only think and ponder of the possibilities.

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ngano walay corruption sa USA?



There is corruption in the United States, but not as high as other countries.

The reasons for this is the prevalence of watch dogs and internal security; the FBI, CIA, and the presence of the Ever-Hungry IRS.

Uncle Sam is a voracious tax-eater. Uncle Sam will file a lawsuit if you even fail to account $100 of your tax revenue; and would be subject to court fees, additional charges and the original $100 fees.

No one is exempt from taxes; not even the President of the United States of America.

Many corrupt senators and congressmen were booted out of office and into Federal Prison due to the IRS's uncovering of illegal and 'questionable' financial exchanges.


Bribery, is a big 'NO NO' here in the United States.


In America, the need to retain credibility, visibility, and responsibility, and honesty is prime.

If one violates this, he or she will loose his or her constituent's support. Loose that and your power base is destroyed.


Look at what happened to the once popular Senator Santorum of Pennsylvania.


America is always the Model Democratic State. Her pillars work.

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awww naa dia pod didto?...at least d kaau grabe tingali ...hehe..luoy atong mga politiko ani,mga puti na ang mo kurakot...haha

The problem with Philippine politics is that there is no transparency; too much 'pork barreling'.

The problem with Philippine politics is that the internal security can be bribed to ' look the other way.'

If you have this kind of problem, the entire system is flawed. And that is the problem with politics in the Philippines; it is just flawed. Everyone, from the local municipal level to the provincia and to the national level works in a flawed and corrupt system.

It's the sad and honest truth.


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Sakto ka Mel. Dili malikayan naa gihapon ang kurakot sa America apan once nga masakpan, lagpot dayon sa katungdanan. So dili grabe ang kurakot.

Permi nag kinto ang mga public servant sa US. Bisan gamay nga bikil lagpot dayon, bisan na sayop lang siya sa sulti. Even past mistakes can be used to overthrow a person in public service.




Mackz, i knew someone nga nag trabaho sa Deparment of Motor Vehicle, mao na diri lukatanan ug drivers license, dayun nangurakot sha kay ang mga walay papel gitagaan nija ug DL nga bajad sad ambot pila, so nabaw-an sha sa DMV head, gilagpot jud sha, house arrest sa Pinas (kay papaulion man diay ka ug asa ka gikan) dala ang mga relatives nga preha ug apelyedo...wa na dayun sha naka work. Naka balik naman sila diri pero lahi na ija work. Back to basics na sha, ang uban nga na deport paryente nija wa kabalik...
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Sakto ka Mel. Dili malikayan naa gihapon ang kurakot sa America apan once nga masakpan, lagpot dayon sa katungdanan. So dili grabe ang kurakot.

Permi nag kinto ang mga public servant sa US. Bisan gamay nga bikil lagpot dayon, bisan na sayop lang siya sa sulti. Even past mistakes can be used to overthrow a person in public service.

maau didto kay dali ra tingali ang pagdakop anang mga makasala nga mga naa sa gobyerno.diri sa pinas dugay pa kaau ang hearing hearing..ni ginansya na ang ilang nakurakot wala pa gyud madakpi...hahaha

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nagsugod tingali ni sa vote buying?mao nga og makadaug mamawi sila?...hehehe

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yup...ok nga yan...kaso mawalan ng makurakot ang gobyerno..lolzz

sure kaha ka? master kaayu in d arts of kurakot ang pinoy.. basin unya ang America maoy matakdan kun himuong 51st state ang Pinas.. dnha btaw mga mayor sa Carson City, California.. 2 jud ka  mayor nag pinoy.. aw kalouy sa Diyos na priso tungod sa Graft and Corruption.. bsan asa ibutang ang pinoy.. ambot ug nganu
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hahahaha...og ma state og america na ta,mga pinoy lang ba gihapon ang himoong leader?aww og mao na,way ayo gihapon..lolzzz

tinood na imong ingon cguro na basin ang america ang matakdan sa kurakot..makakat-on sa mga pinoy...hahaha

 

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