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Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood if we purchase it in blood bank? :-\



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That's a silly question. The national origin of blood does not determine cost, but the type of blood. There are four different blood types: A, B, AB, O. The rarest of the said 4 types is type O. Hence, that will be the most "expensive".

Vistabel, it is proven , through the Human Genome Project, that all human beings share 99.9999999 ad infinitum % of the same genes. National identity is but a man-made construct. Genetically, all members of the species HOMO SAPIEN are interrelated. All equally breed-able. 8)

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A Swedish man who is type O blood can receive an Ethiopian woman's type O blood.

A Filipina who is type AB can receive a Bulgarian man's type AB blood.

What will be cheaper, the AB blood or the O-?

The AB.

Type O- is the rarest..hence, the most expensive, if we apply the law of supply and demand. 8)



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so, pareho lang presyo Doc Lorenz sa tibook kalibutan ma-african blood or American blood or Filipino blood basta iisang type lang sila.

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so, pareho lang presyo Doc Lorenz sa tibook kalibutan ma-african blood or American blood or Filipino blood basta iisang type lang sila.

As far as I know, the factors that affect price, Bai Vistabel, include transportation and preservation cost. If let's say a Filipino hospital requests 500 units of type O- blood from Ethiopia, the cost of transporting said blood to the Philippines will be significant. If the said hospital were to purchase Type O- blood locally, then it would be cost-effective for the hospital.

Factors that influence the cost of blood include: 1) type of blood, 2) transportation cost, 3) processing fee, 4) preservation costs and 5) taxes.

One also cannot judge one being "more expensive" than the other based on the currency. One has to examine the cost of the blood unit in context to that particular nation's cost of living.

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In a hypothetical situation, let's say 1 unit of blood in the United States is $150. And a unit of blood in the Philippines was 1,000 pesos. The average American's annual income is around $45,000 a year. So that 1 unit of blood is not so expensive for an American. However, for a Filipino whos annual income is probably anywhere around 144,000 pesos, that 1 unit of blood is quite expensive. Imagine, 1 unit of blood for the Filipino will be equal to almost 1/12th of his monthly earnings.

So in that context, the Pinoy blood is more expensive than the Yank's. :)

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One has to examine the multifactorial processes that influence medical sales and medical cost. I hope that helps.


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thanks, lorenz, for this thoroughly no-nonsense explanation on blood prices.  flying segs really has a way of putting forward the strangest of questions.  fly on and land here as often as you can, segs. ;D

by the way, i thought all along that type AB is the rarest blood type.  it's type O after all?

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si bai segbin pod ang thread starter sa kadtong pangutana kon motuo ba'g wakwak......
nahutdan na seguro'g supply...;D

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si bai segbin pod ang thread starter sa kadtong pangutana kon motuo ba'g wakwak......
nahutdan na seguro'g supply...;D

Nahutdan nag dugo nga supsopon? :-\

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flying segs really has a way of putting forward the strangest of questions.  fly on and land here as often as you can, segs. ;D


I always smile and am amazed by the creativity of Bai Vistabel's questions. He has a very creative mind. :D

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by the way, i thought all along that type AB is the rarest blood type.  it's type O after all?

Type AB = Universal acceptors

Type O = Universal donors

People who are Type AB have antigens A & B in their blood, which means that they can accept blood from Types A, B, or O. Type O blood has no antigens in the blood, which means that people with Types A, B or AB can accept Type O blood, but people with Type O blood cannot accept blood from Type A, B, or AB. Individuals with Type O blood can only accept Type O blood.

It is important to be aware of patient blood types. If a patient is accidentally given the wrong blood type, then a hemolytic reaction might occur, in which the host's body will attack the donor blood. This is a systemic emergency.

So to reiterate, Isles, people who are type O are considered universal donors, and people with type AB are considered universal acceptors. Type O- is the rarest.

I hope that helped. 8)

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Re: Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood ?
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 01:47:45 PM »
I think lang ha..the price of American blood is most valuable among the rest bloods around the world because Americans pay with their blood for FREEDOM, LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS not just for them but for all of us.

Americans paid with their blood for the liberty of the Philippines from the Japanese Imperial Army.

Americans paid with their blood so that South Korea could not be taken over by communism.

The price of freedom is not cheap. So, American blood is not cheap but it is given to those in need.

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Re: Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood ?
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 02:11:02 PM »
our filipino blood is lesser in value and that's the truth because we are just doing the role as being subordinate. Bakit ganito ang Filipino lagi nalang gunit-gunit sa Saya sa USA? kong may threat pasok sa loob ng Saya sa USA hehehe..::) 

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Re: Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood ?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 03:02:24 PM »
I'm sorry but Type O is not the rarest of the blood group but AB hehehhe

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2012, 03:08:42 PM »
Compatible ba ang dugo sa Pure Pinoy ug Pure Kano labi na kadtong Black American kon pareha sila og type.

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Re: Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood ?
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2012, 03:11:07 PM »
also gikan sa bloodbank you will never know asa o kinsa ni nga dugo kay mga numbers naman na kay by law dili man pwede pahibaw asa gkan importante nga screened ang dugo, mas nindot kun naa jud mo kaugalingon donor kay at least kahibaw mo kinsa kagikan but in emergency cases aw bira ug unsay mauna especially ug car accident unja wa pa hibaw e unsay blood group una jud ana is kun naay Type O Rh negative labing maayo while nag trabaho pa ang Med.tech sa compatibility testing

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 03:15:05 PM »
hazel.., expert diay ka ani nga area.

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Re: Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood ?
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 03:23:53 PM »
Sa Pilipinas imo gibaryan ang screening sa test, bawal baya ibaligya ang dugo mao ila rason sa baryanan is ang test. Kun tanan tawo maga donate (mga healthy) aw medyo dili maglisud o magkuwang sa stocks galing kay dili man. Not everyone knows as long as healthy ka mas maayo mo donate ug dugo. Sa Saudi kun mag donate sauna tagaan ug 500 riyals ang donor unja ag charge sa pasyente kada dugo 5000 riyals hehheh

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2012, 03:46:58 PM »
sa Pilipinas kun mo donate ka naay libreng snacks pan ug juice dire pod sa Australia mao pod na, libreng snacks. Ang Pinoy posibleng donor bisan sa ubang lahi importante nga way mga ubang klaseng antibodies kay mao nay maka incompatible. But even after all are compatible naa gihapon mga allergic reactions ug uban pa mao bantayanan jud ang pasyente while naga tranfuse ug dugo.

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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2012, 03:48:12 PM »
I'm sorry but Type O is not the rarest of the blood group but AB hehehhe

O- is one of the rarest, actually. But, you're right, AB is also considered rare.

O- is one of the rarest because only 7% of all humans in the world have O-.

AB is considered the universal acceptors and type O (- or +) are considered universal donors.

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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2012, 03:50:41 PM »
Compatible ba ang dugo sa Pure Pinoy ug Pure Kano labi na kadtong Black American kon pareha sila og type.

Of course they are compatible. Mr. Daray, you have 99.99999 ad infinitum % of the same genes as an African-American.



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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2012, 03:55:09 PM »
Sorry Doc Lorenz is that the new study? kay dugay naman pod ko, theres always new

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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2012, 03:58:11 PM »
The approximate distribution of blood types in the Philippines population is as follows (though distribution may be different for specific racial and ethnic groups):

O Rh-positive --- 44-46 percent
A Rh-positive --- 22-23 percent
B Rh-positive --- 24-25 percent
AB Rh-positive --- 4-6 percent
Rh-negative group --- Less than 1 percent

-- http://www.redcross.org.ph/

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2012, 04:01:23 PM »
Type O+ is considered common, as common as Type A or B, but types O-, that is very rare. You're right tho, Mary, in regards to the importance of transfusion and hyperacute rejection in the event there is an accidental transfusion of the wrong type of blood. If this happens, knocking on wood ta diri, it is important for the M.D to order the nursing staff to transfuse 1-2 units of FFP (fresh frozen plasma)to prevent further systemic damage. It is advised that we also transfuse a bolus of immunosuppressants just in case. I usually prefer to give IV interferon B.

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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2012, 04:02:22 PM »
our filipino blood is lesser in value and that's the truth because we are just doing the role as being subordinate. Bakit ganito ang Filipino lagi nalang gunit-gunit sa Saya sa USA? kong may threat pasok sa loob ng Saya sa USA hehehe..::) 

Hmm, and this is your honest opinion?

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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2012, 04:12:26 PM »
The approximate distribution of blood types in the Philippines population is as follows (though distribution may be different for specific racial and ethnic groups):

O Rh-positive --- 44-46 percent
A Rh-positive --- 22-23 percent
B Rh-positive --- 24-25 percent
AB Rh-positive --- 4-6 percent
Rh-negative group --- Less than 1 percent

-- http://www.redcross.org.ph/

Ah, a good one, too. This brings to mind a journal I was reading regarding a disease called: erythroblastosis fetalis or known as HDN (hemolytic disease of the newborn), in which there is RH incompatability between the mother and the child. The mother's antibodies attacks the Rh incompatible child.

This is preventable, however. We inject a drug called RHOGAM. This is why it is imperative for pregnant mothers submit for amniocentesis or amniotic villi sampling to accurately make sure that there is no RH incompatibility.



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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2012, 04:13:20 PM »

A very good reference chart.

If you are an 0- patient, and someone decides to give you O+, patay ka.

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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2012, 04:15:15 PM »

A very good reference chart.

This is why Type O- is called Universal Donor.

Type AB is called Universal Acceptor.

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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2012, 04:20:17 PM »
Compatible ba ang dugo sa Pure Pinoy ug Pure Kano labi na kadtong Black American kon pareha sila og type.


I want to clear something up here lang. Blood compatability is not based on race or ethnicity, but the presence of antigens in the blood.

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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2012, 04:21:43 PM »
kun apilan ug RH (rhesus monkey) ang pinaka lisud is negative kay kasagaran man positve ang nanggawas so it would be AB negative. Pero kun ang mga tawo mang donate (katong pwede) wala jud rare unta na dugo kay naa man kanunay stock and its a reality. Ako in my whole life kas a pa ko nag donate ug dugo that was the the day the closing of private blood bank. Ang dugo also daghang klase nga pag type ang pinaka sikat mao ning ABO ug RH grouping

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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2012, 04:23:55 PM »
He he he, btw, Mary, the reason why they say "Rh" is because of the Rhesus monkeys. ;)

Reading this thread, I can't help but think back of my rotations in Hematology & Oncology.

And the good times with the beautiful med techs. he he he.

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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2012, 04:29:51 PM »
our filipino blood is lesser in value and that's the truth because we are just doing the role as being subordinate. Bakit ganito ang Filipino lagi nalang gunit-gunit sa Saya sa USA? kong may threat pasok sa loob ng Saya sa USA hehehe..::) 

No, that's not true. Filipinos are not inferior to anyone, please, Bai Vist, don't allow colonial mentality to influence your judgment.

Please don't forget what General D. MacArthur once said about the Filipino soldier, "Give me ten thousand Filipino soldiers and I will conquer the world.”



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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2012, 04:36:06 PM »
I think lang ha..the price of American blood is most valuable among the rest bloods around the world because Americans pay with their blood for FREEDOM, LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS not just for them but for all of us.

Americans paid with their blood for the liberty of the Philippines from the Japanese Imperial Army.

Americans paid with their blood so that South Korea could not be taken over by communism.

The price of freedom is not cheap. So, American blood is not cheap but it is given to those in need.

1. Yes, they did. The United States sacrificed 60,000 of its young boys to liberate the Philippines from Japanese occupation, in fact, they launched the largest naval invasion ever in the history of mankind to retake the Philippines.

The United States had a moral and political obligation. The Philippines was still an American protectorate, and as such, was bound to American military and political intervention.

2. Tho the United States did pulverize the Japanese into submission, it would not have been possible without the help of the Philippine Scouts, and the Filipino Guerrilla movement that made strategic hits on Japanese targets. In addition, Filipino guerrillas were invaluable to American landing throughout the archipelago and in locating hidden Japanese bases. The liberation of the Philippines was a combined movement-- of both the Filipino and American resources. The sacrifices of the men and women who served in the Philippine Army Scouts or in the guerrilla movement cannot be ignored. They are heroes of the Republic.





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Re: Is the price of American blood the same to the price of Filipino blood ?
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2012, 12:20:10 PM »
I want to clear something up here lang. Blood compatability is not based on race or ethnicity, but the presence of antigens in the blood

Yes its not really based on race/ethnicity ang compatibility sa dugo but the presence of antigen/antibody. Pero mas nindot samot kun imo kaliwat ang donor sa dugo ang chansa sa compatibility mas taas, pero kun way lain aw naa bitaw crossmatching unja antibody screen so kun way hemolysis mahimo sa ge match aw pwede

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