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« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2007, 04:29:15 PM »
My views a rather mixed. I think that everyone has the right to marry whoever they want to, if there is an attraction--then by all means. To each his or her own. Diba?

Why spend time worrying about others. Worry about yourself first.

Korek ka dyan dong, to each his own.

And for ben, follow your heart to where it takes you, that's the mystery of love, because if mixed marriages had not happen, then the evolution of man shouldn't have existed. Pasyensya na sa inyong mga laki nga nabihag.



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« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2007, 04:47:39 PM »
Ahaaaa! Smart Cookie!!!!!!

Mawjood apil diay ka sa ahong brotherhood...

mga sumusunod ni Charles Darwin!!!!!!!

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« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2007, 04:52:39 PM »
you're right dodong enzo. afterall it's not about color or race...

You're Right, Mari. It isn't. People that think in those lines are simple racists and bigots.
Unworthy of our time at all.



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« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2007, 05:05:22 PM »
It's all about apples, oranges and bananas.

I am disappointed with all of this, preciousNpolite.  What we do with our lives is our own prerogative. FYI ..the other side of the fence is NOT alway green and ATM sometimes comes with empty bank account.

So what! I like my Gucci ... my Burberry, ... Havainians and more, it's because we work hard for it and I deserved it. Oh, yeah I was legal way before I said "I do."



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« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2007, 08:52:09 AM »
Ahaaaa! Smart Cookie!!!!!!

Mawjood apil diay ka sa ahong brotherhood...

mga sumusunod ni Charles Darwin!!!!!!!

Dili ko apil ana ms. da bins, mi patronize ko, no offense meant

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« Reply #85 on: December 30, 2007, 07:40:07 PM »
It's all about apples, oranges and bananas.

I am disappointed with all of this, preciousNpolite.  What we do with our lives is our own prerogative. FYI ..the other side of the fence is NOT alway green and ATM sometimes comes with empty bank account.

So what! I like my Gucci ... my Burberry, ... Havainians and more, it's because we work hard for it and I deserved it. Oh, yeah I was legal way before I said "I do."



;)

Don't forget the Giorgio Armani, Calvin Klein, And Polo Ralph Lauren.
Well said, Princess.

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« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2008, 11:42:16 PM »

Just read on this thread....

For Preciousnepolite, I admired your being brutally frank / straightfordness but frowned on your one-sidedness and hypocrisy...the trend is not prevalent in the Philippines but all over the world... it is the same story but different manifestations...

It is our culture of a close knit family and not disintegration like in the west because of impersonalism.  When you marry one... you cannot evade extended familities... when you support the whole clan it is your choice... it is not mandatory

But one thing for sure... the expats loved to be idolized... to be put in a pedestal... when you are whites, the natives feel you're special... and your way of returning is through your wallet... ang uban man gud hambogero sad.

And why complain??? It is a fact that some of those who married Filipinas are after of sincere domesticated service that they could find with their own race...seldom!  and when you treat your wife to be that... how you manifest your thanks when you are priveleged? di ba sa kwarta?  ug ngano nga magtihink man ka kon duna.???

About the women having illicit affairs? these could be boiled down to some shortcomings , imperfections that came to marriage which are also happening not only in the Philippines.

There are a lot more....bisan tinood , one must speak the other truth and not for your the part that favors....

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« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2008, 12:00:04 AM »
Sr. Ayag, Está con gracias y la admiración sinceras que saludo le. Sus observaciones al escritor original son perfectas y capturan la naturaleza ideal, altruista que fue pensada por sus observaciones originales. Me sentía personalmente atacado cuando ella dicha esto porque mi propia madre, un Boholana-expat nunca casó a extranjero para venir a los estados. En el contrario, ella, como muchas otras enfermeras de la filipina vino aquí para las visas médicas; iguales para mi padre. El escritor original no tiene ninguna credibilidad para decir esto. Sus observaciones áspero me disgusto personalmente su audacitia y. Pero ésa es mi opinión personal. Gracias Sr. Ayag por sus pensamientos en la materia.

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« Reply #88 on: January 05, 2008, 12:57:11 AM »


Hi Bran Lorenz,

Thank you for concurring my perception about what Precious was talking about ( though am not well-versed in Spanish ).

I like people who are candid about anything... but please present the two sides of the coin...

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« Reply #89 on: January 05, 2008, 09:52:34 AM »
But one thing for sure... the expats loved to be idolized... to be put in a pedestal... when you are whites, the natives feel you're special... and your way of returning is through your wallet...
That's not for sure at all - many expats feel uncomfortable with the idolization/friendship based on perceived wealth; it's so obviously not genuine.

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« Reply #90 on: January 08, 2008, 01:36:39 AM »


Mr. Ben,

The feeling is mutual... the less priveleged also felt uncomfortable mingling with the wealthy... but one must not complain that Filipinas marry for the Money for Expats marry Pinays for Service till death whom they could seldom find with their own color... when no money.... no honey. hehehe

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« Reply #91 on: January 08, 2008, 01:41:56 AM »
Excellent use of diction, Mr. Jun Ayag.

"When no money..no honey."

haha!

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« Reply #92 on: January 08, 2008, 01:49:27 AM »


Di ba Bran Lorenz? If we compare the culture of Filipinas and Whites marrying wealthy men... whom do you think is more genuine????

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« Reply #93 on: January 08, 2008, 02:10:12 AM »
Mo agree ko nimo, Mr. Jun Ayag. Filipinos, in general, tend to stay together and make the marriage work, even if there are marital and economic problems. Here in the United States, and I dare say this, marriages come and go. Couples marry and divorce as if it is a mere 'relationship'. I cannot help but observe the deterioration of the true meanings of marriage as a 'life-long' bond. Secularism has made that evident. I do not know if the modern day Filipino couples retain the old customs of the sanctity of marriage, but from seeing and knowing many neo-Filipino American couples, marriages work. They tend to be more serious.

I could never dream of marrying a non-Filipina, but that is my own personal view. So of course, I have a bias to begin with.

American women, for the most part, want to live the high life, Mr. Jun Ayag.
They want a big ring, drive their BMW Z5s/ Porsche Carreras'/ Mercedes S-Class, have the husband's credit card for their daily shopping and trips to the mall, have 2-3 kids, pick them up from soccer practice, get their pedicures/manicures/salon, live an easy--stress free life. Money is key. Many marry for money, many do marry for love etc. I have a friend who graduated medical school 2 years ago, is now a resident in Emergency Medicine, and this guy never dated outside his race before (he is Indian), now he's 28 y.o, and dating a girl who is 4 years younger than him and spends most of his money. I will not deny that she is extremely attractive. Blond, physically well-endowed, but sometimes I question her motives. Is it for love, or is it for Ranjit's wallet? All I know is that Ranjit's family is angry at him for not dating an Indian; or for his case, not proceeding with the arranged marriage his family had in place.



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« Reply #94 on: January 08, 2008, 03:28:41 AM »
Didn't anyone or  anybody dared to kick her ass out of Bohol???

Stupid biyatch!!!

Why did she stay there?

Is it because she cant afford to live like she is on a vacation  in her country???

Is she a citizen there in the first place???





HAHAHAHAH !!!!   wala  gyud kapugong c MS DA BINSI... lolzzz..

waiting for someone to say the F word.. na sulti naman ang B word ni da binsi...

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« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2008, 03:39:50 AM »
bol-anon_ko, the ladies have calmed down already ;) and we had let bygones be bygones, so to speak.  We are now embracing Precious as a real family member of Tubag Bohol and I think she does too.  We all learn and let go and move on.  Yes, there were heated and hurting words said in all directions but the wounds healed already.  The scars will not go away but that's ok because that would serve us as reminder to be mindful to the feelings of others.  :D

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« Reply #96 on: January 08, 2008, 03:57:17 AM »
thats right Grazie to forget and forgive or to forgive and forget whichever comes first...

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« Reply #97 on: January 08, 2008, 04:07:36 AM »
thought-provoking, lindy, like which comes first, the egg or the chicken?  hmmm, when something is forgiven, is it because we forget first or we forgive first? ???

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« Reply #98 on: January 08, 2008, 04:10:00 AM »
matud pa ni ms. dabins nga na forgive na daw niya kay nakalimot siya.

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« Reply #99 on: January 08, 2008, 05:53:16 AM »
thought-provoking, lindy, like which comes first, the egg or the chicken?  hmmm, when something is forgiven, is it because we forget first or we forgive first? ???

FRIED came in first grazie7y.. n fried egg and fried chicken.. ehehehe... u can get rid of the scars thru Dr. Vicky Belo.. ehehe ....  just kiddin  ..

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« Reply #100 on: January 08, 2008, 06:10:11 AM »
FRIED came in first grazie7y.. n fried egg and fried chicken.. ehehehe... u can get rid of the scars thru Dr. Vicky Belo.. ehehe ....  just kiddin  ..

invisible scar man, bol-anon_ko so di kaya sa power ni Vicky Belo! hehehehe

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« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2008, 06:41:34 AM »
mao nay giingon: gipamulong mo na PnP
dli na pwede imo tukibon,or can u swallow it again?

during my teens days, i promise myself that if i marry,
i should see to it that he loves me tenderly,seriously w/ all his heart
just the way who/what i am, and i marry him bec. of love and not for anything else.

"Pinays marrys foreigner just bec. of $?" as what she jotted above,ngeks NO gurl !
u better watch ur tongue really! whatever our decision might be "thats not ur beer anymore"! :P

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« Reply #102 on: January 10, 2008, 01:11:04 AM »
ako kay nakigminyo ko ug puti not for money kay wa man fud nahot akong banana... pero nakigminyo ko niya para makagawas kos Pinas... pls dont judge me... i'm not a book! ahehehe... bitaw... love na mi ron oi... hiyaaaa!!!! tigidig2x !!!

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« Reply #103 on: January 10, 2008, 03:45:56 AM »
Lindy dear, nakalimot na bitaw ko ana!

pero nag ka guliyang mi ana sa una, sus ug naa pa ka adto hasta ikaw mag novena gyud ka dear!

Swaks, nothing is wrong with that, honest gyud.

akong banana mo admire gyud ana kay nangita kuno ta ug paagi nga ma change ang life, even though nga dili man na akong purpose...but for others nga mao na ang purposes...

unsaon man ang pride maka palingkawas ba na nimo? nope! no way Jose!

huy asa na si Manong Jose? sigi ra man tawon na sha ma curse diri! hahhahahhahha

sori po!


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« Reply #104 on: January 10, 2008, 12:08:41 PM »
life is how we make it baya... so whatever works!

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« Reply #105 on: January 10, 2008, 04:34:49 PM »


I really admire people who are true and honest to themselves and to others about their purpose and direction in life...and most, I admire for their abilities to communicate and let the other understand and accept for what they are, and make life mutually rewarding to both of them.

In life, it is give and take...it is not only in money you get paid, it is thru service, thru loyalty...and thru prayers... but above all, there is joy in giving when you give it with compassion.

Hence, in marriage, it is friendship with mutual understanding and it is how two persons nurture that common understanding and there is no way for the other to complain except when there is a hidden motive from the start...

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« Reply #106 on: January 10, 2008, 04:49:08 PM »
I am quite disturbed when i was reading this thread... however, i will not stir buried stuff anymore. The hatchet has been buried and I would not waste my time in digging it again.

But I just hope that indeed, when I get to marry... i will not marry the money... but the man, for who he is and for the love we have together... money or no money. So best thing to do... I´d have to stabilise myself.... create a name and reputation of my own... and then marry. That way no one can say I married anyone for his money.

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« Reply #107 on: January 10, 2008, 05:00:02 PM »
Sir junayag how will you define DOWRY?... arrange marriage?

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« Reply #108 on: January 10, 2008, 05:02:53 PM »
Sir junayag how will you define DOWRY?... arrange marriage?

A dowry (also known as trousseau) is the money, goods, or estate that a woman brings to her husband in marriage.[1]

The opposite direction, property given to the bride by the groom, is called dower or mahr. Normally the bride would be entitled to her dowry in event of her widowhood, prior to the evolution of her dower rights; so common was this that the terms "dowry" and "dower" are sometimes confused.

The dowry should not be confused with a bride price, money or goods paid by the prospective groom to the bride's parents in exchange for her hand in marriage.

It should also be distinguished from sowry, which is the money obtained by a wife by filing false dowry case against the husband and his relatives.

quoted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowry

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« Reply #109 on: January 10, 2008, 05:04:45 PM »
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« Reply #110 on: January 10, 2008, 05:06:09 PM »
So where is the LOVE?

eh! kanta man ron te! hehehe ;D

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« Reply #111 on: January 10, 2008, 05:19:03 PM »
I am quite disturbed when i was reading this thread... however, i will not stir buried stuff anymore. The hatchet has been buried and I would not waste my time in digging it again.

But I just hope that indeed, when I get to marry... i will not marry the money... but the man, for who he is and for the love we have together... money or no money. So best thing to do... I´d have to stabilise myself.... create a name and reputation of my own... and then marry. That way no one can say I married anyone for his money.

Well said, dear cousin!

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« Reply #112 on: January 10, 2008, 05:42:10 PM »
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« Reply #113 on: January 10, 2008, 05:43:05 PM »


Hi Ligiah and Lindy,

Sorry I was out for a while...hence, wasnt able to notice your post.

There are societies that practiced the culture of "dowry" in India & SouthEast countries, the women give the dowry to the groom; in Muslim countries, the men gives dowry to their brides.

In the past, when marriage is arranged and no courtship, one cannot expect to have that "love" between the couple.  But in the present days, with the emergence of communication technology (cellphones with videos/cameras) the manner of courtship has been enhanced even the culture of arranged marriage prevails.

Ergo, at the present time, a dowry is only an instrument to manifest a practiced tradition ( whether a dowry is small or big ) it symbolize their belief.

However, even in our modern times, this dowry is represented by the savings and wealth the bride and the groom had prepared to make their lives and marriage in order, successful and worry free without the interventions of families and outside parties...  more....

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« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2008, 05:21:45 AM »
Back in college (that's way, way back time :D), I presented in my English or was it Social study subject about The Notion of Male Superiority.  I know this has nothing to do with this thread but bear me for a while. (Hadlok i eject ko dre na thread kay seryos matters ra ba ni ;D) Anyway, that study led me to get interested in reading materials about dowry stuff and one I remembered reading is a book about Bangladesh and its cultures.  I learned from that book that the women's family give dowry to the men for the reason that the women's family are transferring the responsibility of taking care of these women to the men. They had a set of prices daw according to the social status of the women.  Also, if in the family there's only one donkey or horse ba to, the men got to ride and the women walks.  So that goes back to the question, is there love involved in this kind of marriages? 

Hmmm, that really jolted me then to think that me as a woman is the responsibility of the men in my family! ;D 

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« Reply #115 on: January 14, 2008, 02:01:30 PM »
hmmm... very interesting Graziey...

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« Reply #116 on: January 22, 2008, 02:10:19 AM »
Back in college (that's way, way back time :D), I presented in my English or was it Social study subject about The Notion of Male Superiority.  I know this has nothing to do with this thread but bear me for a while. (Hadlok i eject ko dre na thread kay seryos matters ra ba ni ;D) Anyway, that study led me to get interested in reading materials about dowry stuff and one I remembered reading is a book about Bangladesh and its cultures.  I learned from that book that the women's family give dowry to the men for the reason that the women's family are transferring the responsibility of taking care of these women to the men. They had a set of prices daw according to the social status of the women.  Also, if in the family there's only one donkey or horse ba to, the men got to ride and the women walks.  So that goes back to the question, is there love involved in this kind of marriages? 

Hmmm, that really jolted me then to think that me as a woman is the responsibility of the men in my family! ;D 

same thing is happening in Thailand. Parents ask for money from men when they wanted to marry thai girls. this is a sort of paying for the girl's obligation of helping out the family, so the guys should buy them out. one of my thai friends dislike this but she has no way out because it's tradition.

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« Reply #117 on: January 22, 2008, 03:11:54 AM »
Really, Mari?  I didn't know that!  I thought Thailand is as "modern" as the Philippines.  Did you hear about that Indian lady who was about to get married then her would-be groom's family keep on asking for something so she cancelled the wedding and put an end to that kind of tradition.  She became famous especially to the feminists for standing up to her right as a woman not just to follow tradition that they thought was outrageous!

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« Reply #118 on: January 22, 2008, 03:13:55 AM »
moabot gyud ning panahon nga taas nag presyo ning mga lalaki kay nag decrease naman ang population sa boys... na unsaon na lang mag anad2 na lang mo girls nga daghan na ug asawa injong banana.

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« Reply #119 on: January 22, 2008, 03:15:20 AM »
Mag lana na lang ko ug putot, Lin! ;D

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